Why is misandry on the rise in the west?

[Anonymous]

[JohnDoe3000]

I'm not so sure it is. In quite some countries there are actually government initiatives that go against misandryst double standards, boys falling behind in primary education, archaic family law, etc... Maybe if you live in Sweden or some American state that just adopted some strange ultra-feminist law it may seem like misandry is on the rise but I wouldn't say it is in the West as a whole.

It's also tempting to use it as an excuse or get addicted to the rush of the struggle and refuse to ever admit the problem is lessening (the way some feminists or minority activists seem to refuse this).

[AleDeEurope]

Because we're letting it pass by "female empowerment".

[Asker]

My thoughts exactly.

[Touchmehxx]

Females should be empowered but not to the extent that they step on other people

[Asker]

@Touchmehxx Why can't males be empowered too?

[Touchmehxx]

Show me where I said they can't be empowered

[Asker]

@Touchmehxx You didn't mention men so i assumed you meant men shouldn't be empowered.

[Touchmehxx]

@Paul14 so I can't have opinions and go to school. Oh and by the way don't patronise me, sweetheart

[Touchmehxx]

I didn't say that

[Paul14]

@Touchmehxx calls me sweetheart... how cute. Free country, is it not?

[Touchmehxx]

@Paul14 don't call me cute

[Touchmehxx]

@Paul14 why can't I say anything without being called cute or sweetheart

[Asker]

@Touchmehxx Can you both argue somewhere else.

[Touchmehxx]

Yea just tag me into it...

[Paul14]

@Touchmehxx I didn't call you "cute", i said what you've said to me was.

[Touchmehxx]

@Paul14 yea that's what I was saying...

[Paul14]

@Touchmehxx no you actually weren't sweetie. You said 'stop calling "me" cute' and I said " I didn't call you cute, I said what you've said to me was.

[Touchmehxx]

@Paul14 well that's what I MEANT and don't call me sweetie

[Paul14]

@Touchmehxx ok darling.

[Paul14]

@Touchmehxx Why? Because you're an angel, sweet pea.

[Asker]

Please stop.

[TommySparta]

That's how you know they're gonna try to find each other and fuck ;)

[Touchmehxx]

@Paul14 no I'm not an angle or a darling
Or a sweet pea

[ShaeNielson]

Why is misogyny?

[Asker]

That's not on the rise at all.

[Asker]

There will always be a certain level of sexism no matter what, that's what i think anyway but misandry is on the rise

[ShaeNielson]

The MGTOW is a whole movement of misogynists, so don't tell me it's not on the rise.

[Gommers]

Women believe they are owed everything they earn, everything their man earns, half of everything their man earns upon every divorce, a bag of chips, and a starbucks coffee all without leaving their $1.5m in the suburbs.

Men used work their entire lives to provide for a family that would be thankful for what he's done, he's now been objectified to the forms of ATM and Sperm Bank.

[Asker]

No they aren't. I don't agree with them but there are just as many extremists in MGTOW as there is in Feminism.

[Gommers]

*$1.5m house in the suburbs

[ShaeNielson]

@Gommers You can't say all women are like that, just like I can't say all men are pathetic losers.

[Asker]

Loli never said all women were that. I said misandry is on the rise.

[NessMess]

Femenism is on the rise and you cannot deny it.
So he is right, misandry is on the rise.

[ShaeNielson]

@NessMess Only like 20% of women in the US identify as feminists, it's not that many. There have been feminist movements for years and years, I don't believe it is on a rise.
Feminism doesn't equal misandry, few feminists are what you would call radical. And as I said, the MGTOW movement is relatively new I believe, so misogyny is on the rise, too.

[Asker]

Misogyny isn't on the rise, like i said, there will always be sexism. There's a difference between rising sexism and sexism which will always be there (for both men and women) You using your argument of just reversing what im saying makes no sense because misogyny isn't rising at all..

[Paul14]

Feminism does equal Misandry, if it wasn't Misandry, why the fuck is the majority against it?

[Paul14]

If feminism doesn't equal Misandry, why the fuck does feminists superior women while inferior men. It's like a weighting scale, the society is in the middle and while taking out "pressure" in one cup will raise it cause it to gain superiority while putting more "pressure" or leave it as it is will cause it to gain inferiority.

[dudeman]

what you consider misogyny is just equality

[ShaeNielson]

So sexism against women will always be there and should be accepted, but sexism against men is horrible and should be stopped? Misogyny sure is rising, with all these movements calling women sluts and spawns of satan, years ago women might not have been seen as equals to men but men didn't hate them.

[ShaeNielson]

@Paul14 It does not, feminism means equality between the genders so just because some feminists twisted it to mean female superiority, does not change the definition of the word. Radical feminists are not the majority.

[ShaeNielson]

@dudeman How do you know what I consider misogyny?

[Gommers]

Here. Lets put two people in a ring. You have your choice of top 1% Male fighter/ top 1% Female fighter, 50 percentile male fighter/ 50 percentile female fighter, bottom 1% male fighter/ bottom 1% female fighter.

You can pick a man and a woman and be the two people, one male and one female, and as long as they're in the same percentile the men will out perform the women in every area that men excel at naturally and women will excel in the areas their natural areas. It's not sexism, its nature. Leveling the playing field to benefit someone just because someone else excels where that person would like to excel does not mean that you need accommodations to get you there. That is in no way equality or sexism, its 100% reality and nothing more or less.

[PatriarchalOppressor]

"The MGTOW is a whole movement of misogynists, so don't tell me it's not on the rise."

MGTOW:

"Hey guys - Did you know that trillions in wealth and power have been transferred from men to women through no-fault divorce, alimony, asset division, child support, Title IX, Affirmative Action and civil suit payouts following false accusations? Did you know that when you drive down the road - everything you see was built by men - including the road - through working low paying, unsafe, back breaking, life shortening jobs? Did you know that millions upon millions of men have died in battle to hand women their rights on a silver platter - often through male-only conscription? Did you know that even through the majority of homeless and unemployed are male - the majority of homeless shelters and quota programs for jobs and education are female-only?"

WOMEN:

"MGTOW are misogynistic, ugly, fat losers with small genitals who don't deserve vagina."

[NessMess]

Yet take a look how the 20% practically force 70% divorces. MGTOW at the very least isn't so radical unlike what most if not all of femenism does to ruin a mans life.

[Paul14]

Feminism doesn't mean equality and I'm a part of the MGTOW community.

[ShaeNielson]

@Gommers Physical abilities have absolutely nothing to do with this?

[ShaeNielson]

@PatriarchalOppressor Women didn't built your towns because we were busy being at home not having any rights, you can't expect us to both be oppressed and to be considered equal to men in the workplace, which is how it was back then. Men are both at the bottom and at the top where females are laying pretty steadily in the middle, don't complain about a lot of men being homeless and working shitty jobs, when you are also in most leader positions.
Men died in battle because women weren't seen as strong enough to fight, meanwhile we died giving birth to your sons and daughters though.

If you actually take a look at most MGTOW men, you'll see most of them spew hateful shit about women, so no it's not a kind, loving community, it's a hate group like radical feminism.

[ShaeNielson]

@NessMess Should people stay in a relationship were they aren't happy, is that what you want? In a lot of homes, it is the woman who takes the biggest load when it comes to children, cleaning, cooking and so on, so it's not that weird that often she'll get enough. And maybe women just are more likely to call it quits than men.

[ShaeNielson]

@Paul14 Feminism originally was a movement working to get females the same rights as men, what some people have made it today is something else. But radical feminism is no different from MGTOW, so you don't really have the right to complain.

[NessMess]

So just because she can bear children - she suddenly must ruin lives of (Multiple) Men in her life? Since when can't men COOK OR CLEAN?
Single dads that raise multiple kids on their own...

So don't feed me this bullshit.
Women are also more willing to whore themselves on the street than create a family.
They cheat more often than men and that is a fact. Women are more twice manipulative than men & are willing to abuse the power in society.

Women also lie more often than men, so why don't you cut the shit.

[dudeman]

mgtow isn't nearly as bad as feminism that's just an ignorant thing to say.

[dudeman]

feminism is magnitudes worse. mgtow is a reaction feminism is the problem

[ShaeNielson]

@dudeman Yes, it actually is.

[ShaeNielson]

@NessMess Fine fine fine, women are spawns of satan and men are all saints who would never hurt a fly, always have been always will be, you're much better off on your own. Happy now? Good, then go back to killing ogres or what ever stuff you spend your time on.

[Gommers]

@ShaeNielson

Putting "actually" at the front of your statement doesn't magically make it factually accurate. The problem is that men follow statistics, facts, history, science, and research to formulate our answers; women use feelings and the feelings of others to formulate theirs. This is the issue, the issue is not feminism vs mgtow, the issue is a lack of comprehension of facts as defined by society. If you choose to live your own way, fine, live in a cave and pretend impolite society doesn't exist anymore but don't spread like rust into the perfectly civil society that most of us (men and women who don't affiliate with a social movement) want. You can assimilate to our culture or spend the rest of your life complaining about how not everything you've ever wanted was handed to you on a silver platter.

End of conversation, do not continue replying to this I'm sick of reading your nonsense.

[ShaeNielson]

@Gommers It's nonsense if you're an ignorant dick but okay, bye.

[NessMess]

Are you actually retarded?

[Gommers]

@NessMess To follow woman logic, I feel like she is; so yes. The answer to your question is yes. Yes, she is actually retarded.

[ShaeNielson]

@NessMess I feel like you've already come to the conclusion that I am, so bye.

[ShaeNielson]

@Gommers It's funny how you think Im an idiot for saying misogyny is on the rise, while you're degrading the female gender.

[Gommers]

I'm degrading your thought process, the girl I'm dating doesn't use logic like this, but the logical conclusion based on feelings is a standardized norm across most women across the world. It's not inherently bad unless you just pretend that it's not how you make your decisions. There are valid reasons for the need to follow feelings but you shouldn't make important life decisions based on how you feel and there's no such thing as defining facts by feeling. Facts are what they are not what we want them to be.

This is where the issue of male reasoning and female reasoning comes into play, it is important for men to strategize and use prior information to create a plan to actively defend his family, community, state, nation, whatever... Women are much more reactive instinctually, resulting in a need to follow feelings and do whatever is required of them to survive and have their children survive. It's an extremely valuable tactic when paired with active defense of men.

[Gommers]

To ignore those realities is purely foolish, to try to flip the scripts is downright ignorant.

I'm sorry people in the world don't like natural order, but natural order works. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust; in the beginning natural order took over, and in the end natural order will return. Why fight the inevitable with nonsensical ideology?

[ShaeNielson]

@Gommers I don't see how the fact that the MGTOW organization gaining popularity is a feeling of mine, but if that's your logic then sure.

[SkylerPK]

And there you go. A woman being a misandrist by simply not recognising that men literally have less rights in 2022 than women and things 3rd wave Feminism is the same Feminism that believes in equality as 1st wave Feminism. You like to lop all Feminism under one umbrella to justify bad female behaviour but in truth, today's Feminism is all about female Supremacy (just look at Bumble as one example) and gynocentrism, which is why Men are Going Their Own Way and abandoning women is suddenly an act of oppression.

[madhatters4]

because more and more women are empowered for more than they were in history. with increased power comes abuse of power

[PatriarchalOppressor]

On the rise? What the F?

Cultural misandry and male disposability have been the de facto gold standard for centuries. Male-only conscription? 98% of alimony, asset division and child support being paid by men to women? Majority of homeless shelters female-first but the majority of homeless male? Majority of unemployed male but all quota systems for jobs female-only? When you drove down the road, who do you think built everything you see - including the road - through working low paying, back breaking, life shortening, unsafe jobs?

Misandry isn't on the rise. Misandry is the cultural norm. It's hidden in plain sight so people become anesthetized to the suffer-ring of men and boys.

[DogEatsCat1973]

Because a group of women that have penis envy, and think their lives would be better if they were men, are very bitter they don't have a penis, so they hate men for having them, then they make up reasons why as a woman they are divine and Godlike while making up reasons why all penis holders are less than sewage and useless, once they create reasons for their superiority they then take on a Hitleresque mindset that they have the right to murder, maim, terrorize, torture, and destroy any male because they deem all males to be without basic human value.

[MaryElise]

Your claim that women are "murdering, maiming, terrorizing, torturing, and destroying" men is laughable. Where are all of these murdered and maimed male victims you claim exist? If this were really happening, we wouldn't need to read about it on an obscure online forum. It would be a public crisis of epic proportions. Stop the absurd hyperbole, for heaven's sake.

[SkylerPK]

@MaryElise I am a victim a female sexual assault and domestic abuse.

[Anonymous]

Because, according to Feminist author Christina Hoff Sommers, the Feminist movement won in the 80s, and after that, it basically became the crazy, misandrist movement we know today.

TL;DR: Feminists have gone nuts after winning equality in the 80s

[chc0009]

Because feminism is at an all time high in the USA, especially with scum like Beyonce, Taylor Swift, and Katy Perry. And that's why I'm considering bringing in a Ukrainian wife. She'd be much easier to please and be a better wife than these rotten American women in my home country.

[xxmamichulaxx]

Ahh yes , choosing a foreign wife for the sole reason that you hate feminists and women who won't deal with your shit. Also how is Beyonce or any of the other females you named scum? You seem like the type of man that says all women are bitches but you get heated the moment you hear about feminism

[chc0009]

@xxmamichulaxx Because feminism is hypocrisy, since those women want benefits but no responsibilities.

[JRICHARDS1996]

The Soviet Union collapsed so now the Left is applying their same failed model to culture. It is a Marxist narrative, interpreting everything as a class struggle against the perceived bogeyman. In this case, white heterosexual men and anything even remotely suggesting normalcy.

[Curmudgeon]

Because the Political Left has decided to wage war on stable couples and family relationships. An intact family means less statist dependence, and their whole political movement is built upon more statist dependence.

[Anonymous]

Because privileged white girls in the first world still like to pretend that they're oppressed even though they obviously have everything men have and more with it coming to them much easirt

[Opinion Owner]

*easier

[genericname85]

misandry and misogyny are like a pendulum. it goes back and forth. now it´s on the misandry side of things but it will swing back again xD

[Dred1614returns]

Probably because there are more empowered women than there ever were before.

[Mesonfielde]

Because a lot of guys are in fact sexist douchebags

[PatriarchalOppressor]

Shut your trap and make me a sammich, man bish.

[Mesonfielde]

Lell

[The_flying_Frenchman]

I haven't noticed. Most women seem to like me, but perhaps your situation is different.

[Asker]

Women like me too, i just see a lot more man hate

[Editor]

Because we ran out of people willing to make difficult choices about real problems.

[Saoirse_Nua]

I think the internet has led to a vocal rise in misogyny and misandry

[jacquesvol]

No rise in misandry that I know off.
Misogyny is a campaign theme in the US.

[Djaaaaaay]

Because men allow it to be... like everything else we allow to happen !!

[wankiam]

nah... its an internet myth

[Asker]

Not really, I've experienced it multiple times in real life as well as online.

[wankiam]

thanks for the downvote. sorry if you have been treated bad by a girl or two but i can tell you as a 49 year old that it isn't on the rise... fact. its just as bad as its ever been so you just have to deal with it the same as girls have to deal with the shit we give them.

[Asker]

No, it's on the rise.

[wankiam]

and how do you know that? you been alive 50 years have you?

[Asker]

Age is just a number.

[wankiam]

no... its years of experience

[Asker]

No, it really is just a number.

[wankiam]

and when you are my age you will realise how silly you sound. you really shouldn't bother asking a question if you can't take on other peoples opinions. you should just write a 'take'

[Asker]

Good idea, thank you.

[dudeman]

feminism basically

[Theodorable]

Who's Mis. Andy?