SJW Ruining Gaming? Why?

[Anonymous]

First I want to say, I love gaming, I've been all my life and I know how to balance my daily life for having a job and other things other than gaming, but when I have been committed to a certain franchise of gaming for a while why do other so called fans, try to make prude suggestions that have nothing to offer the game to make the gameplay more enjoyable, but their selfish input? For example, I've heard NBA 2K18 might have girls my career as in, you'll be playing with girls in the park probably to get dunked on and shit. Now, why would I want to use all my VC on a broken game, just to get dunked on by a girl? I don't have a Problem with girls, it's just I don't want something unnecessary in the game that wasn't there from the start. Why couldn't they just make a WNBA game and let us NBA fans be? No, fuck your gaming experience, we want these people to have a better experience than you, I don't care for you loyal customer. Next is GTA VI, I don't really care as much for this, cause it's not as bothersome cause I do not play story mode, but they think adding a female protagonist will make the game better. This has NOTHING to do with making the game better... You're just adding unnecessary shit again. I really don't care with this cause it doesn't get in my way, but it would be better if they had this shit from the start instead, rather than just introducing it to the GTA franchise. Now, all in all, I just want to enjoy my games without having some stupid ass SJW try to butt in and fuck up a game I enjoy with their "suggestions" that doesn't improve the game at all. 2K is broken, the reason why I'm not gonna buy the next game isn't for what I stated above, it's because you can't control your player, and it's the same shit every year. I'm not wasting $60 on a piece of shit same game I played literally 5 years in a row. But back to the topic, why are SJW trying to ruin gaming experience?

[CountessSarah]

I'm not an SJW, but I don't see the problem with the examples given.

NBA-
I don't follow any sports games, and I don't know the specifics of the proposed changes.
But why can't the game have female models? If you like having the mens and womens leagues separate, that's cool, but having a womens league makes sense to me.

GTA-
Now, I enjoyed GTAV. I liked it's 3 protagonists, but I will admit it seemed odd to me that they were all male. They chose 3 very different types of character, allowing the games narrative to be quite varied.
Having a female protag would allow them to tackle some other story elements. What about a current or former prostitute? I think that would be neat.

SJWs ruin things, sure, but these things you mentioned are not SJW territory.

[Asker]

It's because NBA is a game exclusive to the NBA not the WNBA, that's why I have a problem with it, I have no problem with girls playing the game, I just have a problem with it being as if WNBA can play NBA as if that's the case in real life. But with the GTA casing understand, I'm saying I wish they started all this crap from the start, why they start it now, it should've been made from the beginning.

[Asker]

And how is it now SJW territory when they've been trying to add unnecessary things to the game that doesn't improve the gameplay and have been bashing people for having an opinion against it?

[CountessSarah]

They should have made it from the beginning -
Are we talking about adding a protagonist to GTAV or just having a female protag in a hypthetical GTAVI? Because I'm getting mixed messages.
I don't think anyone is asking to have a female protag retroactively added to GTAV, and I remember that people DID ask for a female protag from the very first trailer when they revealed the 3 protags. This isn't a new development.

It's not SJW territory because 'SJW' is a term used to refer to the regressive left. I'm left wing and I would argue both of the cases you outlined, but I'm not an SJW. SJW isn't just a generic slur for all the people you don't agree with. It's a common mistake, one I'm willing to bet you picked up from someone else who was also misusing the term.

[Asker]

Yeah I'm saying when they were first introduced, and if it wasn't a new thing, why did they add it to the GTA VI instead of the one that just came out like 4 years ago GTA V? And I'm talking about both, I didn't want them to have a female protagonist just recently added to make it an excuse as if it were some new content, instead of ACTUAL new content, such as new modes and everything, even though they don't need a new GTA to do that, they are already doing that with this, it's just subpar on graphics atm. and If they needed to make the female protagonist why didn't they do it in the beginning when they were thinking of several protagonists to begin with. That's what I don't understand.

[CountessSarah]

I can't understand your post - you know that GTAVI would be GTA6, right?

[Asker]

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying it, in GTA VI, which is 6 They are introducing female protagonist to the story.

[CountessSarah]

And what's wrong with that? People saw GTAV - thought it was weird it only had male protags, Rockstar clearly agrees and wants a female protag in GTAVI. Seems fine to me.

[Asker]

I don't think you're understanding what I SAID, I SAID that I don't have a problem with a female protagonist in GTAVI, Just why do it now all of a sudden? That doesn't make any sense. As for NBA -WNBA, they should make it two separate games. If it wasn't like that from the beginning, don't try to change it now to please the minority.

[CountessSarah]

What do you mean all of a sudden? Are you suggesting that because previous games didn't have female protags, new ones shouldn't either?

You're damn right I'm not understanding what you're saying, I keep having to decipher your mangled English.

[Asker]

Maybe your understanding is off, You need to branch out and learn that not everyone thinks like you. And you still don't understand when I clearly told you. I'll tell you this one my time. I AM NOT ANNOYED THAT GTA 6 HAS A FEMALE PROTAGONIST, THEY JUST SHOULD'VE STARTED THIS FROM THE BEGINNING IF THEY WERE GOING TO ADD ONE. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. It's like me going to a regular bar and say "Hey why aren't there any gay or transgender people allowed when it wasn't mentioned that it wasn't a restriction before, that there are complaints now. (although I'm not gay, I'm just giving an EXAMPLE that you probably still won't understand.) There I'm done my rant, have a great day.

[szy_________]

didn't really read the whole thing but SJWs just can't take jokes. They get triggered about how animated women in vgames are "unrealistic" and "gives unreal expectations". People should know that characters in videogames are unreal, its just common sense. If a person can't switch from fantasy to reality, it's really their issue but SJWs will always stick their head in and try to shit on the fun

[Rissyanne]

It's like a feminist asking where does it say that a girl can't be in the Boy Scouts. In the name... Boy Scouts

[Asker]

EXACTLY! you get it! Fuck I swear people just don't understand... Like for real! It's so annoying.

[D_Bone_Steak]

They push agendas and don't really care about the gamers... just their college learned social agendas. Gamersgate was stupid and never had to happen at all if they just left it alone. It's even more retarded with shit like Metalgate, where these SJW feminists are trying to ban shit like mosh pits or certain lyrics because feelings.

It was normal when the fight was for equality... at this point though they just make up reasons to be a victim. I'm a woman, I'm not white, I'm poor, I'm fat, I'm this and I'm that. I've even seen them complain about being stupid which makes no sense to me at all. The patter I see though is always the same... I'm a victim because of reasons, and those reasons are feelings.

Civilization is going to collapse because of this shit.

[Asker]

This "I'm a victim" mentality needs to be destroyed, it's fucking up everything we enjoy and will enjoy in the future.

[ak666]

>> But back to the topic, why are SJW trying to ruin gaming experience?

They lack the skills to develop successful video games of their own, so they would prefer to police those who have the skills.

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[ak666]

My guess from some of what they've proposed for "realistic" female bodies in gaming is that one of the reasons they can't develop successful games is because they're too preoccupied eating potato chips.

[Asker]

Exactly bro like what the Fuck!! first they infest my tv with my favorite shows and movies, now they reach my gaming? What the HELL!! Why can't they just let us be, create your own trashy games that no one wants to play and stop spewing agenda!

[ak666]

I find this trend where people who become zealous about claiming victimhood without precise, sound evidence of oppression start seeking to engineer a narrative of victimhood. At that point they often start to sound like religious zealots:

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The next step is usually a whole bunch of pseudo-scientific "research" to justify their claims as well as a desire to censor and control the media and spread propaganda. Sometimes the motives behind it are very sinister and authoritarian in nature. At other times, it's just a bunch of people who get "outraged" easily.

Still it ultimately boils down to that desire to achieve authoritarian control over what other people see, hear, think, say, and do.

[Asker]

These morons backing and saying there's no SJW going down are the same ones that are hidden SJW's trying to play it off! It's ridiculous, I just want to enjoy my games! That's not too much to ask right?

[ak666]

Shouldn't be. So far I don't know how much impact they have over the industry, but at the very least I imagine they've slightly increased the costs of producing some of the big titles. Mostly what worries me is how much of a following these people can get.

[Asker]

Yea, oh god, It's an awful nightmare.

[madhatters4]

no i don't think they are. the gaming industry is still massively successful. i don't think people are quitting games over any of the stuff you mentioned. a female protagonist in GTA would be kind of cool (and i LOOOOVE the GTA series) especially if like the last game it would be one of several characters you played.

until the quality of games suffers i don't think we can say they are ruining gaming

[Asker]

But the other thing I don't get is, why let a guy have a dick on that game, but yet women can't be fully naked? That doesn't' make any sense. That's the hypocrisy I'm talking about.

[madhatters4]

what does that have to do with sjw ruining games? did social justice warriors complain that there should be dicks in games but not full nudity frmo women?

and honestly i don't remember a penis in GTA but i remember a lot of T&A

[Asker]

Hmm... Go to those camps up in the mountains, there's plenty of that nasty shit. Tits and ass? That's practically the same as males, males have bare chest and bare ass, and now bare frontal parts too? When you hear the SJW they say "ohh if you want to see naked women go to a porn site blah blah blah" it's not about seeing naked women it's what's wrong and right. If you're going to add full nude guys, add full nude girls, if you're not, then don't bother adding either. That's all I ask for.

[madhatters4]

what do social justice warriors have to do with a game putting fully nude men in GTA? i think your issue with the developer.

[Asker]

The ones who think it is wrong for women to have full nude in a game, rather than a man to have full nude in a game

[madhatters4]

who cares? they aren't ruining gaming? the game makers decide wht they are going to do. gamers have a million ideas. the game makers do what they want based on what they think will sell the best and thus far the gaming industry isn't suffering

[Asker]

they are ruining gaming with this unnecessary ass updates. and I'm sure your supporting these fools because you believe they should waste a new game which is $60 for experience that I want to find a good experience, for some retards lousy excuse for an idea.

[madhatters4]

i'm supporting who exactly? i don't download updates. i play games i like and literally haven't bought a new game in 2 years... think of me what you want if it makes you feel better about whatever you problem is with the world. i bear that burden if it makes you feel better

[Asker]

But you're not understanding me, let me ask you a question, what do you hate? And what is your favorite game?

[madhatters4]

i hate when people falsely blame things on stuff they don't understand.
i play gta and then mostly sports games. but i only do the story line in gta and don't focus on who or what gets naked in games because it is entirely innocuous

[Asker]

You never answered my question and accused me first in your sentence, please have a good day sir.

[madhatters4]

i did answer your question about what i hate. i did answer your question abotu what games i like.

and what did i accuse you of?

[Asker]

Did you? You never said "the game I like is..." And you accuse me on falsely blaming on things i don't understand. And I read the paragraph fast.

[madhatters4]

"i play gta and then mostly sports games"

[Asker]

This was completely useless to answer my message this late lol this topic is dead now

[madhatters4]

you asked my favorite game. i told you over a week ago and you said it didn't so i was quoting what i said earlier so you couldn't say i never answered your question.

sorry your gaming world is so ruined

[allahu_snackbar]

They're basically saying fuck you and what you enjoy, we're going to say adding these things shouldn't make you enjoy it any less unless you're a fascist asshole. Representation and inclusion must be prioritized over everything else, even if it's got absolutely no contextual relevance.
I personally think social justice is like a really pervasive disease or something. lol. SJWs think they have the moral high ground, so they have the right to infringe on your rights. It's a load of bollocks.

[Asker]

Exactly! It's ridiculous, first the shows/movies I enjoy, now things I do as a hobby, my games too? That's fucking personal! I even seen them make a female james bond. I can understand they make a movie with a similiar storyline, but calling her a female james bond... really now? -.-

[allahu_snackbar]

What can I say man, I agree with you, I think it's bullshit too!

[Anonymous]

SJW's are ruining Halo on Xbox, albeit in a different way. They're SJW's in a "Halo" sense, where you have a divided fan base and they want what they want for the game, even if the game itself suffers. Because "everyone matters."

People just don't get it man.

[Asker]

Exactly Bro, I've been trying to explain it to these people, but then they go and say "That's not SJW"

[Opinion Owner]

The more developers try to add things to please everyone, the more content starts to suffer for everyone. Resources get spread too thin, and the quality of the game begins to drop. It's becoming so apparent in modern games. Incomplete games at launch day with microtransaction business models.

Priorities need to shift.

[Asker]

Right on man and it's gonna be hard for me to even think of playing some games if this keeps up. The same nonsense that they want these people to complain about in the game. "Ohh why aren't there females in this" "Why can't guys get hit and get hit only" "Why are you able to hit the girls, you shouldn't be able to hit girls in a video game"

[_username__]

I mean it doesn't matter really. If anything it's more content for 2k. For GTA the same thing could've been said about GTA:SA changing the race of the character

[Asker]

Adding girls to the game isn't really considered "content" no more than making your sneakers yellow. It's not necessary, now new haircuts is content, adding new modes is content, adding an unnecessary "WNBA" addon to the game which they can have a WNBA game themselves, ISN'T content.

[Asker]

And you make no sense, there are several races for the protagonist in GTA, don't get your point.