What do you think about the conservative revolution that is happening in Europe right now?

[SportsBrah]

They have their own music and everything, how cool is that!

[madhatters4]

i think it's really unfortunate that in 2018 there is any intertwining between conservative politics and white nationalism.

to be clear there is nothing about conservative that speaks to race. so like misandrists mislabeling themselves as feminist, there appears to be a large (and sad) movement of white nationalist who misrepresent themselves as conservatives... they may be politically conservative but their movement is not a conservative movement

[SportsBrah]

The only serious no-nonsense people in politics/meta-politics that use racial talking points are liberals, not conservatives!

[madhatters4]

haha right

[0112358]

It’s sad.

What’s particular pathetic is that early disgruntled losers who agitate for populist revolutions will get wiped out if the actual fascist revolution happens. Early fascists worship strength and conformity and the military while generally being a bunch of unsuccessful weak losers.

The first wave are the brown shirts not the SS and they’d get tossed aside or crushed just the same way.

[SportsBrah]

Europe does not possess the demographics of young men for any sorts of autocratic let alone Fascist revolution to arise, the birth rates are simply far too low for that. Its not gonna happen. Its a left wing delusion.

[0112358]

I actually agree that it’s not likely going to happen.

My point was more that the types of guys marching around being protofascists would be at the bottom again If it happened.

[SportsBrah]

Im not making assumptions here. A Demographic Theory of War by Gunnar Heinsohn presents a demographic theory of war and revolution shows that a demographic of large amounts of young men returning from war or not being satisfied with society are required for any type of military or Fascist revolution.

[0112358]

Agreed.

It’s why the Muslim world has problems (skewed very young) and why China is alarming though it’s huge male imbalanced bulge seems to be passing through without an eruption of war.

[amig0]

Europe needs to mass deport muslim refugees and economic parasites from the middle east and africa.
That is the only way for european civliization to be preserved.
White birth rates also need to increase.

[menina]

If that becomes common and big, I won't have any other option besides killing myself.
So, obviously I don't like this.

[SportsBrah]

What? Why would you do that?

[menina]

Because I would be forced to go back to the country where I was born. Then my life would be over and my dreams would be over too.

[Astoriana]

Populism has historically always ended poorly, and usually with some sort of genocide.

[eddie777]

Why would you prefer to let evil globalist elites destroy our countries?

[Astoriana]

@eddie777 because it is always a scapegoat.

[eddie777]

George Soros is no scapegoat:)

[Astoriana]

@eddie777 listen, I know that you hate the Jews. They know you hate them too. But it’s not their fault that your country has turned to shite. Austerity measures and neo-liberal economic policies do not work, have never worked and will never work. No amount of scapegoating of Jews and immigrants as the problem will change that.

[amig0]

Jews ARE the problem though. There is documented evidence that jews have been kicked out of over 109 locations since AD 250. Europe needs an awakening before islam completely takes over.

[Astoriana]

@amig0 that points more to Christian intolerance than anything else. That is, if you have two brain cells to rub together, which Nazis do not.

[MarkRet]

For every action, there's usually an equal and opposite reaction. When liberals are in power, they push their ideology on people too far, and that brings the conservatives. Same thing with the conservatives pushing too far, and the liberals come back. Right now, the conservatives are coming back.

[amig0]

It's a cycle I believe.
There needs to be a balance of everything. This refugee crisis is a planned take over. This isn't a immigration, it's an invasion.
Europe needs to have mass deportations of these muslims.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Well the last time there was a conservative resolution in Europe, everything turn out ok. I mean, not for the Jews, Russians, Polish, French, homosexuals, Catholics, Romani, Italians, Spanish, British or Scandinavians but otherwise it was fine.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Good God damn my spelling sucks. *revolution, *turned

[SportsBrah]

The last time there was a Conservative Revolution in Europe was in 1953. Stop living in 1933.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Fair enough. Details?

[tartaarsaus]

As long as it doesn't happen in Germany, Belgium or the Netherlands I don't care that much. It's a good thing Wilders is hopeless here.

[SportsBrah]

Lol the revolution started in Germany and France. The Nouvelle Droite and die Neue Rechte are both German and French movements that triggered the revolution.

[tartaarsaus]

Okay. So what? Do you really think AfD is suddenly going to dominate the elections? That's the main thing I care about, whether the far-right is going to win elections.

[SportsBrah]

First we will take the culture by storm, it doesn't matter who wins the elections.

[tartaarsaus]

Lol, taking culture by storm. Far right is pretty hopeless in any way in the elections and in any form of pushing legislation.

[SportsBrah]

You are oblivious to the struggles of our current day society as well as the strategies needed to win them. The left is eating themselves, cannibalizing on themselves. Once the silent majority becomes vocal the left is crushed. Have you not realized that the leftist politicians in Europe today are not having children? They will not make it for another generation. The people that are elected today who do not reproduce will be cut of from power by the natural progression society. Look at Merkel, she was extremely proficient at removing any possible individual from her party that could take her place, even the far left has come to the realization that she is past her prime. Other more suitable candidates will take her position, but nobody of her caliber nor of her party. In the following generation its either going to be a populist right wing or Muslims that will begin to take office.

[tartaarsaus]

Yep, we saw the 'silent majority' in the last elections. At about 12% of the electorate.

Muslims are already in the parliament, so it's nothing surprising. The main populists we have are Baudet and Wilders, both of which are hopeless in any way to get into office while retaining their plans.

[tartaarsaus]

The population in general is not even expected to grow that much, Muslims included with their birthrate of barely 1.9

[eddie777]

I think Jews should not tell Europeans what to do.

[tartaarsaus]

You again? Do sod off.

[tartaarsaus]

It's rather pathetic how you keep creating new accounts and block me with every single one for a banal antisemitic reason

[SportsBrah]

It does not matter who rules as long as they can take over our talking points. You keep talking about Wilders, he is not a populist... He is a neo-conservative, a career politician.

[tartaarsaus]

He's definitely a populist. You do know that being a career politician and populist is not mutually exclusive?

The differences between Wilders, our main populist, and others - except for Baudet who is chilling at 1.3% of the electorate - are enormous. No party is going to ban the Qur'an, kill off the constitution or leave the EU, as Wilders and his party would like to. Why is that? Because a coalition is necessary, and all except for one party rejected almost every single plan of the far-right. Partially because it's morally abhorrent, partially because it's unfeasible, partially because it's suicide for the Netherlands

[SportsBrah]

"to ban the Qur'an, kill off the constitution or leave the EU, as Wilders and his party would like to." Then they are not part of the Conservative Revolution.

"You do know that being a career politician and populist is not mutually exclusive?" Then we seem to have quite different meanings about the word populism, the same can be said about far right. To the Conservative Revolution the left right wing spectrum is outdated, it was developed during the French Revolution and no longer relevant to the current political and cultural situations, considering it is such a complex and inherently subjective spectrum, it is irrelevant. What I mean with populism is the opposite of oligarchy - I use thus the original sense of the word not the modern one.

[tartaarsaus]

Okay. So you prefer to stick to archaic definitions. Odd and illogical, but okay.

Since he's, according to you, not part of the conservative revolution and Baudet wants the same as him, the conservative revolution is not happening in the Netherlands. Fine with me.

[SportsBrah]

There is nothing illogical about wanting to avoid language pollution but okay.

[tartaarsaus]

It's illogical to not move on with times.

[SportsBrah]

I disagree, modernism is a punishment. So many of our words have lost meaning due to language pollution, communication is becoming more difficult. Anyway this conversation should end here.

[tartaarsaus]

I disagree. Definition of words changes along with society. Sticking with outdated terms due to a rejection of the fact that the world is changing, is illogical.

[SportsBrah]

When you look at the course of history from a linear point of view that may the case, but not from a cyclic point of view.

[SirRexington]

Im afraid they are going to have a similar response in America. I don't like liberals but i don't want conservatives in power either.

[eddie777]

I think it's awesome. But we need true nationalists, not cuckservatives.

[SportsBrah]

Nationalism is outdated, it can no longer serve us.

[Mishthamesh]

Part of the equilibrium in democratic societies.

[eddie777]

Screw democracy. It's a way for Jewish bankers and globalists to control everything.

[Mishthamesh]

@eddie777 But Why do you say Jewish? Are you from any Irish, German or Hispanic origin? Could I say "It's a way for English/American/Chinese bankers to control everything" based on their ethnicity? Do you see that reasonable or Do you have any problem with the Jewish people? Remember that in Europe and advanced societies the people use to select their representatives and if they don't work you should try another political/economical formula or alternative, but the problem has not to be with a certain ethnic group, that absurd. US choose Hilary and Trump instead THE JEWISH Bernie Sander, so go ahead and check your conspiracy idea again.

[SportsBrah]

During the middle ages in Europe Christians were not allowed to practice banking as it was regarded as pagan or atheist. At that that Jews also lived in Europe. Jews are typically seen as good at business so they were chosen by the Church institution to be the bankers in Europe. Still to this day Jews are good at business and control large amounts of the wealth in the world. Those whom consider history to be a conspiracy theory will never wake up from their dream as long as they do, there is no conspiracy theory, Jews are good at banking and business alike, some are jealous, others envious, the Jews themselves are proud of it. Anyway, this should not make us hate the Jews as a people, but we should learn from their business and banking capabilities.

[Mishthamesh]

Right. Let's try to be more objective and put aside those desires of blaming Jews for World problems.

Let's see some list of renowned and greatest bakers:

Mayer and Nathan Rothschild (Jewish)
Junius and J. P. Morgan (Welsh)
Paul Warburg (Jewish)
Amadeo P. Giannini (Italian)
Charles Merrill (English?)

Source: investopedia. com/articles/financialcareers/09/most-influential-bankers. asp

You can see more contemporary bankers here:

bloomberg. com/graphics/infographics/ten-most-influential-bankers. html
mentalfloss. com/article/71963/7-bankers-and-financiers-who-changed-world
ranker. com/list/notable-banker_s)/reference

Now, I want to know if it's an objective assertion to say that Jewish bankers are controlling the World or it's a paranoiac fantasy (wishful-thinking?) claiming that the Jewish people are controlling or wants to control the World? Why the Jewish people and not the Chinese or the non-Jewish American or the British people? Are all the name on the lists Jewish?

[SportsBrah]

I dont know why you are trying to crowbar into this conversation that Jews control the world. I have not stated anything like that. Controlling large amounts of wealth and controlling the world is quite different from one another.

[Mishthamesh]

That's a reply to this: "It's a way for Jewish bankers and globalists to control everything." Everything includes the world. Was not directly to you the reply.

[SuccessfulHornDog]

Good for them. Liberalism is a mental illness