Is Sweden doomed?

[Girolamo]

Is this video true? Is Sweden collapsing?

A case study in a country that is obliterating itself.

Yes

No

Updates

+1 y

This video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBewxQUHwvo

Updates

+1 y

God help this country...

[KermitDaFuccboii]

For a really long time we've been a country of about 9 million people, about 90% of us were swedish, not a lot of crime but everything was incredibly expensive. Then we had a housing crisis and around 60% of our politicians started investing in that. Since 2010 we've taken in around 970 000 people. The media lied about the majority of them being either educated adults or women and children and that the country would benefit from them being here.

I don't think it's doomed since it seems like a lot of people are considering voting for the Sweden Democrats. We have 8 political parties here and they're the only one that wants to decrease immigration while the other 7 want either keep it where it's at right now or attempt to increase it.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Nah, we have election this year we still have hope left when the nationalists are gaining shit ton of support especially the last 1 and half month.
Use ENG subs on this video:

https://youtu.be/QaiL6IXBYow

[Paris13]

Of course. Like Greece. Venezuela.
Dumpster Diving and no one Thriving. The USA one Day will Get this Way.
Be prepared with Food, Water and Medical Supplies... And then Some, hun.
That Somber Look that I see Here, dear? MORE FEAR.:((xxoo

[WeirdoWerdo]

Ugh...

[Deukalion]

Greece are doomed by stupid ape government of lefties shit, ones they gone immigrants will gone with them.

[Deukalion]

once*

[Paris13]

Thanks, Gag. xx

[Lifeiscooll]

I don't follow politics lately but I respect Sweden 🇸🇪 It doesn't deserve to be doomed

[WeirdoWerdo]

It kinda do deserve to be doomed.. I'm Swedish myself and those pesky politicians are corrupt as fuck and hates everyone who is Swedish and they continue literally destroying our culture and history srly! Museums are destroying items from the viking age!

[Lifeiscooll]

@WeirdoWerdo :( I have good reputation about Sweden but if a Swedish says so. Then I'm so sorry

[WeirdoWerdo]

But we have elections this year and oh boy the only party eho actually does what the people want are gaining ton of support like no other and teens srly love that party and now they're able to vote this year.

[WeirdoWerdo]

who*

[InTimoreDei]

@WeirdoWerdo Good to hear that. I want Sweden back to what it once was. I'm from Ireland but I have Norse ancestry as well so I have much love for the Scandinavian countries.

[Soteris]

As a Swedish person this is complete nonsense. There has been no appreciable difference in Sweden quite frankly, its just that people love to use Sweden as a shocking example because of propaganda reasons and that no one actually bothers to check how things actually are.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Yeah you haven't bothered to check what has happened to Sweden at all. 2014-2016 a increase of 138% of sexual crimes. b. mobil.eposten.se/.../...-pa-tva-ar-unt4818370.aspx
All crimes "serious" has increased b. www.bra.se/.../...lla-trygghetsundersokningen.html
b. www.bra.se/.../rape-and-sex-offences.html
nyheteridag.se/.../
b. www.gp.se/.../...t-sprider-sig-i-sverige-1.4864090
Patienterna dör i väntan på sängar https://www.aftonbladet.se/a/Wpd2d
Sverige har längsta vårdköerna i Europa www.aftonbladet.se/debatt/article22132580.ab
nyheteridag.se/.../
AND there is more so you know.

[Soteris]

@WeirdoWerdo Are you sure I have not looked? I mean are you REALLY sure I have not looked into the increase in sexual crimes and how increased reporting as well as harsher sentences is the cause of it? Or how for example the "Trygghetsundersokningen" you linked is based on peoples feelings rather than actual events.

Or how about how Sweden has more doctors per capita than the UK, Finland, Denmark, Norway, United States and Canada so the reason people have to wait is not because there are not enough doctors?

Ill ask you again. Are you really sure I have not looked into all these things years ago and found them completely baseless?

[WeirdoWerdo]

Well you did say "As a Swedish person this is complete nonsense. There has been no appreciable difference in Sweden quite frankly, its just that people love to use Sweden as a shocking example because of propaganda reasons and that no one actually bothers to check how things actually are." and you forgot the Ö in Trygghetsundersökningen and the first thing the say "trygghetsundersökningen (NTU) svarar drygt 12 000 personer på frågor om utsatthet för brott, trygghet, förtroende för rättsväsendet samt brottsoffers kontakter med rättsväsendet. Med hjälp av undersökningen kan man studera brottsutvecklingen utan att vara beroende av att brotten ANMÄLS till Polisen." It's not feelings... The reason people have to wait in Sweden because the doctors from sweden choose to work elsewhere because the conditions are horrible in Sweden.

[WeirdoWerdo]

And you can't compare a per capita with another country which has either less or more people than the country you are comparing with as United States surely has a lot more doctors than Sweden because they're a country of ~330 milion people to compare that to a country with 10 million people is absurd. Both Finland, Norway and Denmark has less people than Sweden. "Ill ask you again. Are you really sure I have not looked into all these things YEARS AGO and found them completely baseless" Keywords: "YEARS AGO" that isn't now? Now is it? There's BIG difference between how it was in Sweden like in 2012 compared to now in 2018. BIG. Although according to www.worldatlas.com/.../...-doctors-per-capita.html Norway seems to have higher doctors pee capita than Sweden which seems weird because that where most doctors AND nurses from Sweden has went to Norway to continue to work as a doctor or nurse.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Our healthcare has not gotten too much like shit we've just never been able to upgrade shit and fallen behind and then it got worse the mass import of unemployment, rape and crime. Safety is gone for a lot of people now especially in the 'No go zones'. And a lot of doctors now lack the expertise needed. Did you even look at mobil.eposten.se/.../...-pa-tva-ar-unt4818370.aspx the fact that you don't even show any source yourself means you're not even trustworthy and that you put disbelief in trustworthy sources is even more of a sign that you are untrustworthy.

[Soteris]

@WeirdoWerdo I intentionally omitted the ö in trygghetsundersökningen because I was referencing the link you have which, for the record, does not contain special characters because that is a taboo in IT.

I have also seen the questionnaire you reference and I have also seen people purposely write down inaccurate information in a form of "protest" against the government to make them take action. Its not fact based, period.

Also you CAN compare per-capita with other countries since its specifically designed to be compared with other countries. Doctors per capita means how many doctors for any given number of people (1000 in this case) and Sweden. In fact Sweden has significantly more doctors than for example USA or the UK, a whole ~50% actually.

For every 1000 Swedes there are 3.3 doctors (Year 2002 and climbing)
For every 1000 Brits there are 2.2 doctors (2002 and climbing)

Also yes I looked into it years ago.. and I keep looking at it because idiots like you make me.

[Soteris]

Also for the record, Norway has 3.1 doctors for every 1000 citizens in 2002 however their numbers have also stagnated while Sweden is climbing.

Also if you actually bothered to check the unemployment numbers, like here:
tradingeconomics.com/sweden/unemployment-rate
You would see we are actually doing just fine. For example Finland has 8.1% and the average in the European Union is 7.1 where as Sweden is 6.2~6.5.

Crime and rape is also average in the EU and there never was such a thing as "no go zones".
www.snopes.com/.../
sverigesradio.se/.../artikel.aspx
Links links links

Honestly though I should not have to do your research for you just because you can't be bothered.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Head of Ambulance Union talks about No Go Zones: https://youtu.be/ta5a02MzWjE
and www.expressen.se/.../ and www.sydsvenskan.se/.../raddningstjanst-attackerad-under-slackningsarbete we also have this post talking about immigration and crime: www.nationalreview.com/.../ and did ya compare the EU to the rest of the world? I did say Sweden, no? Or did you compare Sweden to the EU?

[WeirdoWerdo]

And bro we're in a högkonjunktur (I don't know the English word) employment usually is low during a högkonjunktur but the 'Refugees' coming here have a high rate of unemployment for a few years because they cannot integrate and SOME just aren't even willing to integrate. samnytt.se/.../ although according to SCB we do have a upwards going trend which is good. www.scb.se/.../ and unemployment is 5.9%(February) in Sweden according to Eurostat and bureau of labor statistics although samnytt said like 7.1%? And now some other said around your number so who the hell knows they aren't showing any sources to me so? Or how they know and calculated it.

[Soteris]

@WeirdoWerdo
No go zones were never a thing, they were completely made up from day one. Right wing propaganda media has just taken things like police statements of areas of high crime and re-branded it as "no go zones" because it sounds more serious. The fact that you still believe this nonsense is a testament to how little you have actually looked into it. You telling me I need to provide links is ludicrous since its like asking links to prove Santa is not real. Just look anywhere that is serious about news, data or their position.

Also if immigrants have high unemployment and our unemployment is still below EU average then this means native Swedes have even lower levels of unemployment to compensate? Except that is all bullshit as well since according to studies in previous refugee waves 70% have jobs and contribute to society (such as paying taxes) within 10 years not to mention beyond 10 years and their children.

Unemployment
Canada: 5.8 (down from 6.9 by the start of the year)

[Soteris]

@WeirdoWerdo
Again, I do not need to show you my links since I literally just take the official numbers which is easy to find and readily available. You should already have them in fact if you start up this kind of argument.

You can do all kinds of comparisons here if you want:
tradingeconomics.com/sweden/unemployment-rate
Beware that unemployment can be calculated differently in different countries like for example in USA you need to actively be looking for job to be counted as unemployed, otherwise you just disappear from the statistics which lowers their unemployment drastically.

Here you got Swedens official unemployment numbers from the government:
www.scb.se/.../
Here you can see the official EU employment rate:
ec.europa.eu/.../visualisations#Ecotrends

Happy now?

[4nication]

This is so ridiculous. Sweden is like the ONE country apart from Germany that has done its share (and more) when it comes to helping refugees and migrants. All the other countries (including ones that have gone to war in the Middle East and North Africa, and bear direct blame for destabilizing it) put their fucking heads in the sand.

So tired of this dumb neo nazi shit. Stop being scared of brown people. If everyone had done their bit, Sweden wouldn't have had to take in so many people.

[WeirdoWerdo]

2014 to 2016 sexual crimes rose 138%... As a Swede our politicians are corrupt and our current PM has srly been the PM who has been reported for the most errors of any PM in Swedens history. Source from a local newspaper in Sweden and its not even a right wing newspaper: mobil.eposten.se/.../...-pa-tva-ar-unt4818370.aspx

[4nication]

@WeirdoWerdo Even if that is true, Sweden only took in so many migrants because almost everyone else dodged responsibility.

[WeirdoWerdo]

But only 1 party wanted to stop it so we wouldn't just take them all in but throw them out which we still don't do not even with illegal ones who were denied entry like the guy who commited the horrible attack in Stockholm last year he was denied to stay here but he was yet to actually be deported. The Economist refugees are coming now too which makes it even worse for our own economy because they dont end up learning Swedish or getting an education that they never received in their home country. They only want the benefits, not all of them for sure but a large enough part of them to be a burden for us.

[4nication]

@WeirdoWerdo The Western world can't keep living in a bubble where serious problems only happen in faraway countries. Our behaviour has an impact. When we bomb faraway countries people die. When we buy crappy cheap clothes from H&M, textile workers die. Etc. When we pay crap rates for commodities, farmers can't feed their families.

[WeirdoWerdo]

I can move to Norway if I have to they're outside the EU which is a bigger threat to Sweden than Russia.

[lilaqua]

@WeirdoWerdo There's also been a decline in most crime in Germany since the open door policy. The only crime that has gone up slightly is fraud which is committed overwhelmingly by upper class white german born people. I also agree with 4nication, countries like the US have a responsibility to at least take responsibility for dealing with the people they displaced in the first place

[WeirdoWerdo]

All crimes has gone up in Sweden by BRÅ (Brottsförebyggande Rådet) state funded and state owned but not state controlled www.bra.se/.../...lla-trygghetsundersokningen.html

[Patrickjv]

@lilaqua decline in most crime for sure. Not violent crime though.
www.google.com/.../idUSKBN1ES16J

[Travis_Skyles]

With the rise of nationalism, the country could be saved, however, with the state of modern Europe I dought it will happen. So, its all up in the air.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Not when the nationalist party is the biggest party by polls right NOW they over came the socialists.

[InTimoreDei]

Yup, it is true. Been following Swedish news for a long time. That country got blindsided along with other European countries.

50 percent of girls said no. They must know nothing and are blind.

[Soteris]

I dont follow Swedish news but I got google-fu and actually look at the facts and statistics. Sweden is doing just fine. Much easier and quicker than to try figure out what the news tells you.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Anywhere, where large Muslims migrate, they by default bring a rare form of cancer to destroy free speech and nationalism.

Bye Sewden. ✌

[WeirdoWerdo]

Bye you. We're not doomed if the nationalists are the biggest party by current polls this month and we have election coming up this year.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@WeirdoWerdo: y'all better win.

[Patrickjv]

Yes, but not in the way that uneducated alt right rube thinks.

[RolandCuthbert]

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[Oram52]

Just far right propaganda. The first guy in the video is far right/ alt right. Its only among rightwing in America Sweden is doomed. Funny how Swedish themselves don't have these views.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Search up "Angry foreigner" on youtube.

[Oram52]

@WeirdoWerdo Its same thing. They're just selling fear.

[Soteris]

*claps in Swedish*

[WeirdoWerdo]

Lol, FAR from it😂 You didn't even watch his video where he says he still has hope for Sweden and everything fucking idiot keep being ignorant I won't suffer from it. He doesn't "sell" fear he USES FACTS IN ALL OF HIS VIDEO FROM TRUSTWORTHY sources you ignorant shit. Before you judge and be an idiot fucking watch his videos.

[LegendOfGAG]

That’s ok ladies there’s room at my house. You can sleep on the floor...

[lucidmemoirs]

Why would you let those women into your house? So they can tear down your upholstery for being "Eurocentric" and call you racist for not allowing non-vetted migrants in as well?

[markscott]

Just more right wing propaganda, that the right wing thinks we are stupid enough to believe.

[WeirdoWerdo]

As a Swede the shit is starting to collapse but it'll take several decades to look like Mexico? Living standards will fall for sure but we have election this year and the polls are looking fantastic with the nationalists gainaing ton of support and the socialists lost more than 4% in less than a month! They continue making mistakes now.

[markscott]

@WeirdoWerdo : Sounds like you are getting more like America. Where the middle class gets screwed, and the rich keep getting every richer.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Well it's only leftist rich who get richer and politicians gets fired from their posts but then gets nice little jobs somewhere else by the PM but they continue doing a shit job. The working class top party is the nationalists because the tax is getting TOO big and benefits are lost.

[Deukalion]

All the Europe is doomed by stupid lefties politics that crave for muslims c*** in they asses , few months to go for Greek election , then we wills send that apes back with lefties shits fucking red plague.

[MidnightCowboy]

Says the religious nut who ask stupid questions lol

[JesseTheMan]

No. Sweden is a very nice, beautiful and well off place. They're not "doomed"

[YHL6965]

From Vikings to this... How sad...

[InTimoreDei]

Despicable. They used to have the toughest individuals like The Carolean Army.

[YHL6965]

@InTimoreDei Yeah, it really shows you the damage the far left does...

[Anon-ymous1]

My God. You actually watch these guys' videos?

[NovissimumVirorum]

@WeirdoWerdo Make Sweden Great Again

[WeirdoWerdo]

I am.

[NerdInDenial]

We shall see...

[NerdInDenial]

I wish them the best of luck

[LegateLanius]

We are all doomed to dust in the wind.

[FireAsh]

Yes it is doomed in your mind lol

[Anonymous]

No, it is not doomed.

[WeirdoWerdo]

Ugh...

[WeirdoWerdo]

Wait shit I read wrong.