I think it’s retarded. Not everything needs a label, you don’t need to self identify as some ridiculous category. Just say you’re against long term relationships.
MGTOW actually wasn’t bad at first just like how feminism wasn’t bad in the beginning. But then like modern third wave feminism, MGTOW became a hatred of the opposite sex. Go on a feminist site and then go to a MGTOW site. Both bitch and are sexist toward the opposite sex equally. They are very similar movements now. Don’t join any of them 😆
A necessary evil. I sure hope most of those guys will never ever have kids. It will help somewhat if not significantly with our already overpopulated planet and it's resources being drained exponentially.
"No need in complaining about it" ... You mean like women NEVER complain/ed or like feminists NEVER point/ed out the injustices committed against women?
How is it "fair" or "retribution" that little boys who have done nothing wrong are at an disatvantage, just because in the past completely unrelated women were, because of completely unrelated men?
It's still the same problem. Why is the same problem better, when the people who suffer it have a penis?
That's egocentric, sexist, vindictive, unfair, and makes no sense.
You could argue just as well that the oppression of women is a part of human nature and that women should just shut up about it. Good that you're showing your true colours.
You obviously only care about people whose shoes YOU could be in. In other words: yourself. You don't care about justice, or harmony. You only care about your personal gain.
I love how girls dislike my comments because I said that disadvantaging boys isn't better than disadvantaging girls... How dare I say that boys are just as important as girls? How dare I say that newborn boys are not at fault for the oppression directed by men at women in the past? Jesus fucking Christ
My understanding of it is they view women as good for having short term flings with but they would never marry anyone nor have a child with anyone because it is everything to lose and nothing to gain. Keep your finances, property, retirement accounts... etc. away from anyone else who could leave and claim half for themselves and take your kids.
I'm to understand they still go out and have sex but it always stays very casual... no long term stuff.
Nothing. That's all i will say for now. But i see they love harassing people online if some girl says something about men and habits alone instead going to counseling or see a psychologist to deal with their pain. It's not like it's united nations for crying out loud but they think they are.
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I think what we should be asking ourselves is why most of us can't talk about Mgtow without shaming, demeaning, or disregarding them. When you look at what happened in Japan, they also had a time where they could have listened, but now look at the place, it's too late. Birth rate has dropped, and guys no longer marry.
It's easy to ignore them, and shame them just like Japan did...
I don't know much about it. It seems like they have a lot of dogmas, and generally really want women to feel bad about driving them away. However, if they are just men who give up on dating, then there is nothing wrong with that. Like an easy 30-40% of men won't be able to ever get a date anyways, they're just being honest with themselves.
For men, who are "going their own way" they sure are obsessed with women and hating women and bashing women a lot more than regular men and philogynists do to the point of calling 'women-loving-men' white knights, manginas and blue pills while calling all women gold digging bitches 🙄
Now tell me again how they're going their own way.
They got this reputation to themselves and are to me the opposite side of the radical feminism.
And we normal humans are in the center of it's crossfire.
The thing they're complaining about is not that women are on top, it's that women are on the same level. It just feels to them that they've lost something that they, individually, never had.
I really do keep saying that I must put time aside to research MGTOW as it stands I am not too sure I fully understand it and I think a lot of proponents don't understand it either. What is it? - I am going to have a single celibate lifestyle from now on, I become a player etc, I avoid emotional interaction with women, I argue with women on every issue aggressively - Truth is I just don't know
They are a bunch of queers, and thats ok to be gay. Its not ok to promote hatred for anyone. I believe myself to be a feminist which i define as supporting a womans choice to make her own choices. I never told my daughter what to think i taught her how to think. Unfortunately she uses this against me with great efficiency ha ha
Derogitory? Oh wow your one of those political correct language people. You know who else excelled at perfect political language? The Nazis they had it down to a science. I have no problem with gays or whatever is the proper term. As a matter of fact some of the most hardcore badass cats i ever served with were queer. When i got blown up the corpsman who risked his ass to save me was into guys i didn't bive a shit if he sucked dick he just wasn't going to suck my dick. By yhe way for doing what he did to keep me from dying i bought him a man whore every day for a week. So excuse me if my language is abrasive but oh yeah i dont give a shit
I feel bad for them. I wrote a MyTake about it that fleshed out my feelings on the matter much more than I could here but suffice it to say I have pity on their lives. I think a lot of autistic men who've had bad or weird experiences with women all their lives get very bitter and it leads to destructive decisions like this where they cut themselves off from so much of society and socialization. I would never be a MGTOW.
I don't care if a dude doesn't want kids or to get married or be in relationships or even interact with women lol it's his life, he's free to live the life he wants --- as long as he doesn't go around bitching about women constantly then who cares? However, those mgtowers spending all their free time berating women really need to get a fucking grip.
Why? Does it hurt you to listen to men talk about their disappointment in women? Because that's literally the inverse of the feminist movement. I bet you don't have a problem with that movement.
@Benedek38 well you lost that bet cuz I don't support any political movement including modern feminism. It doesn't hurt to listen to their incessant whining about women lmao, it's just childish and makes them look idiotic hence MGTOW is laughed at by people that don't have their heads stuck up their own asses which, coincidentally, is mainly found outside the manosphere. Also, if you haven't noticed, the MGTOWers that constantly spend their time bitching and hating women is the exact opposite of "going their own way" ------and for those MGTOWers that do that shit, "MGTOW" would be a misnomer
Had a friend like that , i can't figure those guys out and i kind of hate them... Several times i've put in a good word with my female friends about him, each and everytime i've regreted it big time , last time i talked with him when i lost control over myself in a coffee shop and started yelling , pretty much had to leave because i'd bash his had in otherwise, but ye... Mostly the mindset , history , way of thinking and constant dissaproval makes them huge ass dicks.
@AlbanianYoungLady Darling , i'm done with violence for years , i'm actually a pacifist this happened 2/3 years ago. I settle my issues with a conversation , if the person is ignorant i cross him/her out of my life and thats it.
"going their own way" means they are not going to marry, or engage in long term relationships with women. It has NOTHING to do with feminism. Many MGTOW are quasi-MRAs or PUAs, that's true, but that's another thing entirely.
Honestly I don't like how they treat women like objects but they complain that woman treat them like objects/slaves. They come up with a social problem such as woman are typically treated to dinner by a guy and he pays the bill. But than they say woman just want the free food and want men's money. When it's really not a big deal. But they all come off as little 13 year old kids that don't know how to get a girlfriend
Men were not kings, kings were kings and its not like kings didn’t have responsibilities so what are you even talking about? You have a misinformed view of history.
You’re view of fair is also warped. Even IF it was like that in the past that doesn’t justify treating people like shit now.
Fundamentally MGTOW is about learning to not draw ones self esteem from how you affect women. Identifying the reflex to invest in women and pander to them and disregarding it. Investing in oneself.
They make me very sad. I'm sorry that they have had to go through the life experiences that they have, to make them so frustrated with women.
Women can be amazing, but you have to give them something. You have to be willing to take a risk on them, because they're just as hurt and broken as we are.
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I think it’s retarded. Not everything needs a label, you don’t need to self identify as some ridiculous category. Just say you’re against long term relationships.
I want mho
MGTOW actually wasn’t bad at first just like how feminism wasn’t bad in the beginning. But then like modern third wave feminism, MGTOW became a hatred of the opposite sex. Go on a feminist site and then go to a MGTOW site. Both bitch and are sexist toward the opposite sex equally. They are very similar movements now. Don’t join any of them 😆
A necessary evil. I sure hope most of those guys will never ever have kids. It will help somewhat if not significantly with our already overpopulated planet and it's resources being drained exponentially.
What do you think @Unit1? @dolemite68? @serious? @MeatPuppet?
I agree. As long as they don't murder women and stuff like that.
"No need in complaining about it" ... You mean like women NEVER complain/ed or like feminists NEVER point/ed out the injustices committed against women?
How is it "fair" or "retribution" that little boys who have done nothing wrong are at an disatvantage, just because in the past completely unrelated women were, because of completely unrelated men?
It's still the same problem. Why is the same problem better, when the people who suffer it have a penis?
That's egocentric, sexist, vindictive, unfair, and makes no sense.
You could argue just as well that the oppression of women is a part of human nature and that women should just shut up about it.
Good that you're showing your true colours.
You obviously only care about people whose shoes YOU could be in.
In other words: yourself.
You don't care about justice, or harmony. You only care about your personal gain.
I agree with what you said
But in some fields women have more advantages than men
I love how girls dislike my comments because I said that disadvantaging boys isn't better than disadvantaging girls... How dare I say that boys are just as important as girls? How dare I say that newborn boys are not at fault for the oppression directed by men at women in the past? Jesus fucking Christ
My understanding of it is they view women as good for having short term flings with but they would never marry anyone nor have a child with anyone because it is everything to lose and nothing to gain. Keep your finances, property, retirement accounts... etc. away from anyone else who could leave and claim half for themselves and take your kids.
I'm to understand they still go out and have sex but it always stays very casual... no long term stuff.
Nothing. That's all i will say for now. But i see they love harassing people online if some girl says something about men and habits alone instead going to counseling or see a psychologist to deal with their pain. It's not like it's united nations for crying out loud but they think they are.
I think what we should be asking ourselves is why most of us can't talk about Mgtow without shaming, demeaning, or disregarding them. When you look at what happened in Japan, they also had a time where they could have listened, but now look at the place, it's too late. Birth rate has dropped, and guys no longer marry.
It's easy to ignore them, and shame them just like Japan did...
Nothing bad about birth rates and interest in marriage declining
I don't know much about it. It seems like they have a lot of dogmas, and generally really want women to feel bad about driving them away. However, if they are just men who give up on dating, then there is nothing wrong with that. Like an easy 30-40% of men won't be able to ever get a date anyways, they're just being honest with themselves.
For men, who are "going their own way" they sure are obsessed with women and hating women and bashing women a lot more than regular men and philogynists do to the point of calling 'women-loving-men' white knights, manginas and blue pills while calling all women gold digging bitches 🙄
Now tell me again how they're going their own way.
They got this reputation to themselves and are to me the opposite side of the radical feminism.
And we normal humans are in the center of it's crossfire.
The thing they're complaining about is not that women are on top, it's that women are on the same level. It just feels to them that they've lost something that they, individually, never had.
On a related subject: "The woman who founded the 'incel' movement"
www.BBC.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45284455
I really do keep saying that I must put time aside to research MGTOW as it stands I am not too sure I fully understand it and I think a lot of proponents don't understand it either. What is it? - I am going to have a single celibate lifestyle from now on, I become a player etc, I avoid emotional interaction with women, I argue with women on every issue aggressively - Truth is I just don't know
They are a bunch of queers, and thats ok to be gay. Its not ok to promote hatred for anyone. I believe myself to be a feminist which i define as supporting a womans choice to make her own choices. I never told my daughter what to think i taught her how to think. Unfortunately she uses this against me with great efficiency ha ha
Lol you throw out a derogatory like a bunch of queers then tell everyone ur a feminist rofl...
Derogitory? Oh wow your one of those political correct language people. You know who else excelled at perfect political language? The Nazis they had it down to a science. I have no problem with gays or whatever is the proper term. As a matter of fact some of the most hardcore badass cats i ever served with were queer. When i got blown up the corpsman who risked his ass to save me was into guys i didn't bive a shit if he sucked dick he just wasn't going to suck my dick. By yhe way for doing what he did to keep me from dying i bought him a man whore every day for a week. So excuse me if my language is abrasive but oh yeah i dont give a shit
I feel bad for them. I wrote a MyTake about it that fleshed out my feelings on the matter much more than I could here but suffice it to say I have pity on their lives. I think a lot of autistic men who've had bad or weird experiences with women all their lives get very bitter and it leads to destructive decisions like this where they cut themselves off from so much of society and socialization. I would never be a MGTOW.
I don't care if a dude doesn't want kids or to get married or be in relationships or even interact with women lol it's his life, he's free to live the life he wants --- as long as he doesn't go around bitching about women constantly then who cares? However, those mgtowers spending all their free time berating women really need to get a fucking grip.
I agree
Why? Does it hurt you to listen to men talk about their disappointment in women? Because that's literally the inverse of the feminist movement. I bet you don't have a problem with that movement.
@Benedek38 well you lost that bet cuz I don't support any political movement including modern feminism. It doesn't hurt to listen to their incessant whining about women lmao, it's just childish and makes them look idiotic hence MGTOW is laughed at by people that don't have their heads stuck up their own asses which, coincidentally, is mainly found outside the manosphere. Also, if you haven't noticed, the MGTOWers that constantly spend their time bitching and hating women is the exact opposite of "going their own way" ------and for those MGTOWers that do that shit, "MGTOW" would be a misnomer
Had a friend like that , i can't figure those guys out and i kind of hate them... Several times i've put in a good word with my female friends about him, each and everytime i've regreted it big time , last time i talked with him when i lost control over myself in a coffee shop and started yelling , pretty much had to leave because i'd bash his had in otherwise, but ye... Mostly the mindset , history , way of thinking and constant dissaproval makes them huge ass dicks.
You need too see a psychiatrist
And grow up
Start solving things like real men
Not with violence
@AlbanianYoungLady Darling , i'm done with violence for years , i'm actually a pacifist this happened 2/3 years ago. I settle my issues with a conversation , if the person is ignorant i cross him/her out of my life and thats it.
If they actually went there own way I'd be fine with it but seems to more be going the same way as femists but just behind them shouting at them
"going their own way" means they are not going to marry, or engage in long term relationships with women. It has NOTHING to do with feminism. Many MGTOW are quasi-MRAs or PUAs, that's true, but that's another thing entirely.
Yep and sadly similar to feminism the vocal minority makes the normal people in the movement tarnished
Honestly I don't like how they treat women like objects but they complain that woman treat them like objects/slaves. They come up with a social problem such as woman are typically treated to dinner by a guy and he pays the bill. But than they say woman just want the free food and want men's money. When it's really not a big deal. But they all come off as little 13 year old kids that don't know how to get a girlfriend
Men were not kings, kings were kings and its not like kings didn’t have responsibilities so what are you even talking about? You have a misinformed view of history.
You’re view of fair is also warped. Even IF it was like that in the past that doesn’t justify treating people like shit now.
Fundamentally MGTOW is about learning to not draw ones self esteem from how you affect women. Identifying the reflex to invest in women and pander to them and disregarding it. Investing in oneself.
In my personal experience I haven't seen them do anything wrong. I don't call myself on because labeling yourself only leads to bad things.
Men experience problems too and they aren't being heard.
Do they sabotage female rights protests, if no they are not as bad as some Feminists.
They make me very sad. I'm sorry that they have had to go through the life experiences that they have, to make them so frustrated with women.
Women can be amazing, but you have to give them something. You have to be willing to take a risk on them, because they're just as hurt and broken as we are.