Why are feminists not honest enough to see their own sexism?

[Anonymous]

I see this over and over again from feminists. They complain that feminism gets criticized because of the actions of a few loud, sexist women who are "not real feminists", but then those very same feminists say some of the most hateful and sexist things against men. They themselves are the feminists who give feminism a bad rep, but they are too dishonest to see it.

Why can't they see their own sexism? Why are they unable to see that they themselves are the problem with feminism?

[someginger]

Eh I think most feminist do want equality it's just the more vocal and the ones with more conventional thoughts are the ones with pay attention to so while it may seems that all feminist are sexist idoits I think that most feminist aren't.

[Asker]

What is equality in the context of gender? It's not a simple issue because men and women are different so there is no such thing as true equality. So gender equality is a very subjective thing, and most feminists have a very gynocentric definition for what they call "equality".

But that is really beside the point in this question. The issue I'm referring to is sexism and misandry, and in my experience most feminists display those behaviors but just don't realize it.

[wankiam]

many men dont understand feminism so it must follow that many women dont really understand it either... thats only fair ;)

[Asker]

One does not need to understand feminism in order to recognize sexism.

[leahzrc]

not all feminists are sexist just like not all men are seixst

[Asker]

I agree that not all feminists are sexist, but in my experience many / most of them are but just don't realize it.

[leahzrc]

Give some examples

[Asker]

There are some feminists here on GAG who say they are adamantly against sexism and all for equality and yet the same feminists support the idea that men should be the ones who pursue women and pay for dates because they need to show women they value them "because that is just the way it is supposed to be". I could give plenty of other examples.

[leahzrc]

Is this based off of one girl? That girl isn't a feminist if she thinks that way. That is a very traditional way of thinking

[Asker]

Wrong, you cannot say someone is not a feminist just because they don't believe what you believe they should believe.

And no I have talked with many feminists who believe that way.

You feminists need to stop dismissing all the bad behavior of other feminists just by saying "she's not a real feminists". Its very disingenuous and just perpetuates the problem.

And by the way, it's not as much an issue of tradition as it is one of entitlement, self-importance and sexism.

[Soteris]

I would love if you pointed out my supposed sexism.

[Asker]

I don't know you and have never interacted with you so I can't accommodate your request at the moment. I will pay attention going forward and point it out for you when it happens.

[Soteris]

Looking forward to it.

[Asker]

Sure

[MannySimms]

Because they're embarrassed by the size and shape of their breasts.

Next!

[GreenGold1992]

Cuz they are that blind and oblivious and arrogant.

[CuriousMufuxka]

It's a lost cause. I say the close to the same as far as mgtow.

[GreatnessBack]

Feminist and think is oxymoronic.
And why do you care?

[Asker]

I care for the same reasons everyone should care about sexism.

[JesseJayNeak]

It's what I've been trying to figure out