Were those strange hanging fruit slaves at the time of their hanging?Ask the millions of castrated African slaves in arab countries.Or the slaves that were crucified or forced to fight to the death by the Roman's.Your clearly ignorant of history.
Umm you’re comparing people being murdered vs people being murdered vs people being murdered and ranking them like some kind of psycho
The hanging fruit were free men.Muslims castrated their slaves which is why there are no descendants of African slaves in muslim countries despite muslims having the most African slaves.The Roman's crucified rebellious slaves. The ottomans kidnapped children and used them as slave soldiers.
Scroll Down to Read Other Opinions
Well they were slaves, few slaves had it good but at least they weren't eunuchs
Exactly. That's but one example of the fucked up things that were done to them, by the Arab slave trade.
It's a pretty major one.
Were would it have been better? Europe?(sincerely curious, as far as I know most places were awful (and not saying it wasn't awful in the US either, just that comparatively it was the least awful).
@hellionthesagereborn I was sort of thinking more in terms of *when* it would be better, rather than *where*. Slavery wasn't legal or widely practised in most of Europe, in the modern period, although you did have serfdom, where the peasants were tied to the land, had to give a certain number of workdays to the landowner etc, which wasn't entirely different. Some slaves in the Ancient World, however, had it comparatively better. Their closest analogies would be house slaves in the US. Some slaves in the Ancient World became quite powerful people in their own right, though, more than would have been possible for slaves in the US.
@hellionthesagereborn Europes trick because throughout history there was wide variety of slavery with slave having rights and no rights. Then there's the matter of servitude or slavery. Rome was particularly hard on slaves. Slaves were worked to death in quarries, mines, gallies, prositutes, construction sites, as gladiators etc and were generally treated very cheaply whereas African American slaves were treated like cattle
Oh I know, and they also ended it earlier too (environmental factors were to blame in my opinion. Wide spread agriculture was hard in Europe early on due to a combination of mountainous terrain and woodlands which made using non iron plows (the most common for most of history) impossible to get through the rocky soil and thick roots. After that you really didn't have the culture built up for slavery on any kind of wide scale unlike most other regions in the world). Serfdom and feudalism where in my opinion more closely related to indentured servitude then slavery (close to it but not quite as restrictive and brutal). I'd agree with the house slaves one, that was the best position you could be as a slave (hell even as a free man that was usually better then free out in the fields).
Roman slaves where not frequently thrown into the gladiatorial pit, that was usually criminals or slaves from wars (who were pretty much going to be killed anyway). They actually didn't like using lethal combat in the arena as much as people think they did because getting a new slave was expensive and training a new slave to fight in the arena was even more expensive so they generally (but not always) tried to avoid lethal combat with slaves (unless they where captured in war or criminals (or political dissidents or what have you)).
@hellionthesagereborn serfdom depending on the region was very close to slavery, often a serf could never leave where he lived and was bound in service forcibly to a noble. Russian serfdom was probably the hardest. Well Rome valued educated and skilled slaves as well as house slaves which was a good life but the majority of roman slaves did hard back breaking labor and weren't valued because how cheap and easy to acquire. A good example is that when caesar conquered gaul its said that he killed a third of the hauls and enslaved another third, that's massive amount of slaves. 1in3 people in the Roman empire were said to be slaves.
I'm fully aware, but again, it was not exactly like slavery hence me saying its arguably better, mostly fucked is better then fully fucked.As for rome, yes they did have a lot of slaves but most of that happened later as the empire began to collapse and they started devaluing their currency (not unlike what we are doing) and going into debt (not unlike what we are doing) and raising taxes (not unlike what we are doing) to the point were many people in order to escape debt sold themselves into slavery. It got so bad that they actually had to make it illegal to become a slave to escape debt. In fact some have argued this is how the feudal system got it start as more and more people became destitute and dependent on a powerful land owner to help support them.
True plus those Africans got rich enslaving and selling their fellow Africans to arabs and turks.
Yeah, I believe such fuckers exist in almost every community. Greedy fucking fuckers, who can even sell out their whole family just to wipe their ass from money.
It still goes on in Africa and arabs still buy African slaves.
Some reports in the united states show how well look after slaves were. I know in south and central America and the Caribbean they had a high mortality rate and male slaves in muslim countries were castrated. I mean there are no descendants of African slaves to be found anywhere in muslim countries despite them being the majority destination for African slaves.
Who did those reports? Slaves owners? White racist?
Think about how many African Americans live in the us compared to how few were actually brought over in ships to the united states.
What does that have to do with what you responded to me? Black slaves in America were treated like hell dude. There's no denying that unless you willfully desire to ignore the reality of what happen.
Of course they were slaves, slavery tended to be hell but it was certainly better to be an African American slave than one in Africa or the middle east.
You mean disagree. God your such a nazi fascist
You just proved my point.
You just proved mine
Oops slaves **
Why would they throw them overboard? How would they get paid? Millions were killed by the muslims
All slavery is bad. They threw people overboard because food ran out, or it was illegal in Europe before America while traveling across ocean, or the product (real people) was sick, or a pregnant woman couldnt turn a profit, or changing the cargo manifest. Watch the movies: Amistad or Roots.
But then they couldn't get paid. Its like a farmer doesn't kill his cattle if he can help it. A pregnant woman means two slaves and a wet nurse
By educating yourself.
Nobody thinks about slavery elsewhere. Schools only tell you about African slaves. can't know everything just saying.
Most African slaves went to muslim countries.
I'm kind of aggravated by the whole topic because people just wanna drag slavery to the ground and black people are still disliked by people. Black people can't do anything without getting killed or mistreated.
Well who is killing and mistreating them?
Anyone who doesn't like black people.
So when black people kill white people at higher rates?
Were they castrated. Where are all the descendants of African slaves in Muslim countries?
Muslim merchants were heavily involved in the African human trafficking trade, but very few Muslims actually OWNED African slaves during the time period you’re talking about. Almost every planter in the South owned African-American slaves, and a lot of middle class Southerners did too.
Lol jesus get educated. From 1565-1865 the American colonies and later United states imported very few slaves while the Muslim African slave trade lasted from the 9th century- 1960s, is still going and predates islam.Saying few muslims owned African slaves is silly and of course every slave plantation owner owned but that doesn't mean every white farmer owned slaves ie Abraham Lincoln's father didn't own slaves. There were plenty of plantations all over north Africa, the middle east and asia minor. Hell there were slave revolts from time to time one involving 500,000 African slaves.