
Isn’t mixing races something we should strive for?


No, because it's already been done, and there are no other surviving 'races' of humanity left to mix WITH, other than the human race. Phylogenetic scientific studies have already proven beyond any doubt that neither 'Neanderthals' nor 'Denisovans' had anywhere genetically divergent enough to qualify as different species, or even sub-species, but were instead the last surviving separate 'races' of humanity, other than ourselves, with both having emigrated 'Out of Africa' during the last interglacial period before this one, before being cut off when the Ice Age kicked back in. And as soon as they could, wherever possible, our ancestors DID intermix with them, and add their genes to our own gene pool. The genes possessed by the Sherpas and Tibetans, along with peoples like the Bajau, which grant them far greater endurance to low oxygen levels and allow them to hold their breath for longer than anyone else, were originally acquired from the Denisovans who colonized the Himalayas first, and passed down to their mixed-race descendants to the present day.
And it's now speculated that the reason why Y chromosome genes, from male Neanderthals went extinct, wasn't (just) due to our African immigrant forefathers stealing all their fair-skinned white Neanderthal women for ourselves and cuckolding their race to extinction, but (also, in part) due to their genes, even more so on the Y chromosome than on the X chromosome, rendering them far more susceptible to disease. And this "progression", for those who do have pre-historic Neanderthal inter-racial heritage, still causes a great deal of suffering to this day, with Neanderthal genes greatly increasing the risk of developing several diseases, including lupus, biliary cirrhosis, Crohn's disease, type 2 diabetes- and severe COVID-19, the global super-hyped pandemic we're all suffering the effects of right now. As scientists reported back in July 2020, a major genetic risk factor of the COVID-19 virus, which increases the risk of developing severe symptoms and dying from COVID-19 infection by 3-4 times, was inherited from our racial mixing with archaic Neanderthals 60,000 years ago. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/inherited-neanderthal-gene-encodes-37479/
Roughly 16% of Europeans (and 9% of those of admixed European heritage in the Americas, including Latin Americans and African Americans) and 50% of south Asians have inherited these particular gene sequence on chromosome III, with the highest frequency of modern carriers found in Bangladeshi and Bengali people- where 63% of the population carries at least one copy of the risk factor DNA, and 13% of the population is homozygous for this haplotype. In contrast, only 4% or less of the general populations of East Asia and the Middle East possess this inherited genetic susceptibility to COVID-19, and this gene sequence is almost entirely absent from the populations of Africans, Melanesians and Aboriginal Australians, with Africans having little to no Neanderthal ancestry, and the ancestors of the Melanesians and Aborigines having already branched off before this.
And this is reflected in the COVID-19 death rates around the globe, especially here in the UK; where the three largest ethnic minority (BAME) groups are British Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, who collectively account for more than 5.5% of the general population of the UK. And South Asians have also accounted for c.15% of the total confirmed cases (almost 500k of the UK's total of 3.26M), but more than a third of the 330k+ severe cases of COVID-19 here, along with an estimated 30-35% of the COVID-19 death toll, 25,000-30,000 of the UK's current death toll of 86,000. In other words, roughly 13.3% of the UK's pre-COVID South Asian population's already been confirmed as having had it, almost a quarter of those cases were severe enough to require hospitalisation, and 0.67-0.8% of the UK's pre-COVID South Asian population of c.3.75M has already been killed by COVID-19 in the past year- compared with a mere 0.09% of the rest of the UK's population.
And it's all thanks to pre-historic racial mixing for the COVID-19, and the fact that our ancestors had a bigger hard-on for a particular group of Neanderthal girls than anyone else's ancestors did. The actual, real-life results of 'progression' via outbreeding offers plenty of success stories, but as with anyone's ancestry, regardless of what 'races' they can trace their heritage from, those critical collective genetic weaknesses and vulnerabilities are always going to get passed on to future generations, just as much as any potential collective genetic strengths and advantages will be. I'm mixed-race half-Black half-Indian, and I got lucky- contracted COVID-19 early on and coped with it just fine, suffering symptoms no worse than a bad flu. Plenty of others haven't been, and won't be, so lucky...
This guy. Everybody who isn't supremely ignorant knows that naturally "race" doesn't exist. That's in the biological world that's governed by natural and scientific law. The socially constructed world of humany society however, is governed solely by the mind of human beings, where we conceptualize and acknowledge slight climate adaptations as "race". Not saying it's right or that I agree with it, just that it's the life we have to live with
@TerminallyChill I agree with 'that guy' entirely; except that I think genes are nowhere near as important as touted, but rather the habits and the environment you live in, especially in the first 6 years in the dark.
When I get to it, I will run an experiment of how radically different a child can be from its parents if it grows up differently (i. e. my hair is redish except when in the sun and drinking coffee and it goes black - so if I not expose my child to as much sunlight and before it ever tastes coffee - I will see if it will be orange/light red or blonde)
@TerminallyChill That was my point. Race DID exist, past tense, for humanity as a species, but ceased to do so after the last isolated Denisovan tribes, clinging on in the Highlands of New Guinea, were assimilated into the wider human population roughly 10-15,000 years ago. Since then, humanity has been, and still is, a mono-racial species; as you say, 'race' as conceptualized today is purely a social construct.
Oh ok. I didn't read your whole thesis paper so I don't know
@TerminallyChill get out of here, leftist
it's pretty disgusting to aim to be racist, and choose a partner based on targeting against a particular racial group, just in order to promote an arbitrary aim of racialist consciousness.
Racism is a made up term.. the moral term, has and will always be: "racialism".
All racialism is dehumanising.
Learn about non-racialism please: identity politics is just a gateway to hate, race-baiting, and being intellectually equivalent to conceptualising society just like fascists think about society. Don't be a useful idiot for fascist ideology, reject the proto-fascist 'progressives' and their disgusting racial obsessions, this is literally what is holding back inside their toxic narrative subcultures, that are premised on projecting hate onto others, and engineering the very conditions that are controllable when one does not adopt blanket racial sympathy-oppression worldviews. Don't be a Nazi, you do know, that they also believed themselves to be social justice warriors: Nazi stands for- National Socialist German Workers Party. Don't believe the self fulfilling toxic slave morality of racialistic propaganda: your character, decisions and choices produce your own fate, and you cannot break the natural/spiritual law without consequences: when people get a free pass to divert blame because of natural consequences, because of ideological narratives of systemic oppression: then fascist ideology has become normalised, and amorality and nihilism has been taken by people, and shared in, like the mark of the beast (becoming a collective instead of an individual).
Finding love happiness and peace is what we should strive for.
People need to also mind their business.
Same race. Mixed race. Lgbt relationships who care.
If you're in a relationship and happy why are you so concerned about others?
Superiority affects many, simply for being a particular colour?
Just because you earn more money?
But who are you at the core?
Why aren't people more interested in that?
Hate and anger seems to be an emotion people seem to really enjoy. Why I really don't know.
That's what people really need to consider. Can they really say they even like themselves. I truly hope during this lockdown it's forced people to do a lot of soul searching.
Hate and anger has its origins precisely in this misplaced idea the darker ones must assimilate the lighter ones, and then when they fail, they hate themselves even more, rather than from the start loving their own and the way they are.
None of that is genetic anyhow, it is just early childhood and then later life adaptations to the environment you are in and the habits your carers transfer to you (i. e. you stare at the sun, your eyes go darker, you expose your skin to UV, it does the same - you stay indoors and not do so, it goes lighter; you are in the cold, you get more hairs, covered, less etc)
Thanks for mho x
I wonder if you're serious but if you are, my answer is no. There's nothing wrong with mixed race families but people also have the right of not wanting to have children outside their race.
@TerminallyChill why is it weird to only want children of your race? I don’t know Grand Wizard.
I see you love to jump to ad hominem when faced with questions anf statements you don't like/can't answer
@TerminallyChill Yeah I can’t answer that, cuz race means nothing to me.
Shitstirring like that causes wars, when all have their best match nearby - same backgrounds, same expectations, ways of living, habits.
It's folk that sell you how you are deficient and must be a skinny tall prostitute-model to be a valid human for profits that... well, they claim they are superior, but in the end they just hide their own feelings of deficiency and want you to join their un-wholeness club.
The moment you realise you are whole as you are, and it is most natural to have your own matching human-animal, all of that loses any meaning or importance (and you don't have to buy a thing to impress other deficients/watchers of others' lives)
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You'll mock the religious right with their rejection of evolution and science based on their religious beliefs but you'll do the same based on your ideological beliefs, which are also anti-science and anti-nature.
For what reason should we strive for this? We evolved these different traits to adapt to our environments. You think you're being smart but there is no real scientific or evolutionary benefit to all of the races mixing into one coffee-coloured race.
White people in Africa and Australia are prone to skin cancer, and black people in Northern Europe are more likely to be deficient in vitamin D which leads to weak immune systems, which is the reason why they're more heavily affected by Covid-19 than white people.
We're not adapted to hot climates, they're not adapted to cold climates. Neither is superior to the other, but each are better suited to different climates.
If we were all to mix together, nobody would be adapted to anywhere. Or maybe at best we'd all be adapted to the same climate, which would be somewhere in between hot and cold. When you live in a climate in which you're not adapted to you become less healthy, both physically and mentally.
As a leftist, you probably like to mock dumb rednecks. Why do you think they're dumb? Why are their necks red? They don't belong there.
You're confused.
Race is a social construct, not a biological reality.
DNA only matters when you're interbreeding in the same family for long generations like the blue eyed blondes did. We know this as both are recessive genes. Hence blonde and blue eyed people need to breed with non blonde and non blue eyed, if they want to avoid disabled children.
Other than that, people should instead be looking at family histories and health rather than race and appeal. It's creating screwed up IVF kids and even worse kids in dysfunctional families.
Has it NOT dawned upon you that 'racial characteristics and behaviors' EVOLVED in response to successful navigation of One's previous dynamic circumstantial environment?
With the EVER-greater potentially-wider migration, so evolves physiological diversity.
The Eastern European migration from Asian Mongolia across the Alaskan land bridge was the eventual origins of the North and Southern American Native American Cahokian, Mayan and Aztec tribes.
Likewise, the migrations out of Africa to the middle East and up into proto-Europe then eastward to Persia and the Russian steppes and completing the cycle back into Asia and Mongolia.
If it’s natural for two people of a different race to like each other then it’s perfectly ok but, it shouldn’t be forced upon. Example: if you have a personal preference for a specific race then you’re not racist, it’s just personal taste. It’s not fair to the other person to force yourself to like them because, you don’t want to be “racist”. However, if you genuinely like someone of a different race then it’s cool. I don’t necessarily think it’s something we must strive for (as it is important to keep our own race going) but, there’s nothing wrong with it either. I’d say to just let everything flow naturally. I think every woman is beautiful but, I do have personal taste.
Funny enough, yes. I say "funny" thinking back to the old ideals of "pure race" and whatnot that went around, when having a "pure race" (no mixing) actually leads to tons of weak babies.
Generally speaking (and this applies to all animals, I think) mixing breeds gives the biggest chances to have newborns that are stronger then their parents: higher, with better muscles, smarter, more resistant to deseases... all the different traits that may halp the newborns survive better
We don't choose who we are attracted to. If this is just being used as a way to push diversity as opposed to an individual's preference and desire, I only see that as set up for more dysfunction. Being mixed myself, I know what races I am attracted to, but keep in mind that there are races that prefer to keep gatekeeping a thing by staying with the same race and that's fine because that is their decison.
It won't matter down the line since minorities will make up for almost half or the majority of the population. Just let it lie as is. There is nothing wrong with the way things are now.
Why is it something we “should” do? There’s no good reason to believe that mixing races “progresses” dna. If you want to progress you start by changing your negative characteristics.
People can marry whoever they want. Attraction is often complicated. There’s nothing wrong with a white guy being attracted to a white girl, or a black girl being attracted to a white guy, or a Spanish guy being attracted to a black girl. But honestly, people and pursue whoever they want. Forcing people to mix races is not only immoral, it won’t help solve racism.
Adam and Eve, as the first humans, had ALL the possible genetic material between two people. As populations grew and migrated, those who migrated northward became lighter-skinned, with a higher proportion of bluer eyes over generations, while those who migrated southward became darker-skinned with a higher proportion of browner eyes.
Consider this : perhaps the human race has become SO diverse that the only direction even remaining is to "meet in the middle" and all peoples become medium-tan over time.
Well no it didn't start with just two people other wise the human race would have died off in about 3 generations due to a lack of genetic diversity. the smallest amount of humans needed to repopulate you earth is 160 roughly.
You were mostly right about the other stuff though
@someginger The Bible states that God commanded man to fill the earth (e. g., Genesis 1:28, 9:1, and 9:7)—which is far more than 7 billion!
But the claim that it is impossible to get seven billion descendants from two people is wrong. The Bible reveals that God, who is all-powerful, created two people initially (Genesis 1)—a man and woman (Genesis 1:26–27) called Adam and Eve (e. g., Genesis 2:19, 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:13). Adam was the first man (1 Corinthians 15:45), and Eve was the mother of all the living (Genesis 3:20).
Parents produce children. Those children grow up and produce more children, and the process continues. Since mankind was commanded to be fruitful and multiply, childbearing and population growth is appropriate (Genesis 1:28).
Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters over the course of many years (Genesis 5:4), so, yes, originally brothers and sisters had to marry. That was admissible originally of necessity (and not a problem for genetic diseases that wouldn’t have existed yet since this was before the degenerate effects from sin and the curse), but God set up most familiar incest laws at the time of Moses (e. g., Leviticus 18), which was about 2,500 years AFTER Adam and Eve.
Actually, we would have gotten to seven billion sooner if it hadn’t been for sin and the flood of judgment on that sin (Genesis 6–9). That event reset the population to eight people, where six of them (Shem, Ham, and Japheth’s families) were responsible for populating the earth (e. g., Genesis 6:10, 7:7, 8:16, 10:32). And population stats reveal that since the flood (about 4,350 years ago), we should be at about 6–7 billion people right now even at a conservative rate of doubling only every 150 years.
Tell the Bible.
Ok you can't make an argument about science using the bible since the bible says the earth is the center of out universe which is just wrong.
Using the bible to make an argument is an argument from authority and since i don't believe in god or the Bible you may as well be quoting from Dr Seuss.
@someginger Earth? Center of the universe? Ha-ha. You're not reading from my Bible, bruh. If I use "science" , then there is an ever-moving "center " of the universe since it is constantly expanding.
It doesn’t matter it’s not something that should matter. I think like sharing culture is important and communication if they have a language barrier cuz I notice some people r too uncomfortable or impatient wit that stuff.
If I can’t understand you I get impatient as hell lol
Furthermore I won’t date black unless they really show me something good. I’m not attracted to the contrast and general personality and the hair. It’s really no different than women not dating me because I’m short and don’t look masculine.
Although I should add because someone will be offended I don’t have s a problem with others doing it including any daughter or son I have and ide date most other races.
Maybe that’s ur opinion n it’s ok u have ur opinions. I just feel like the reason why it usually doesn’t work out it’s because US citizens esp get impatient with other races with language even when they do speak English but mess up or visit their country n get uncomfortable n rude. I grew up in a Hispanic community snd black so like having some friends parents that spoke Spanish mostly n couldn’t speak English well I got along great with and we taught eachother or would jus I don't know be good terms.
Oh ya I have issues with anyone I can’t openly converse with. I’ll try only so long to understand and then I’m done. But rides also different where you go. In the states slurping students and asking for salts normal in Japan it’s a compliment and asking for salts rude.
@VanillaSalt You're the epitome of racism. I was born in the hospital room next door to you. I was raised attending the same school, speaking the same language, studying the same courses, attended an American university just like you. I celebrated Christmas, Thanksgiving, Halloween just like you.
And now you can't understand anything we are saying because we look different?
Now you have absolutely nothing in common with me just because we look different? haha
This is proof that racist people do not make sense. You just like to believe what you want to believe in.
@Hannah_le I didn’t say anything about not understanding people because of the color of their skin did I? I think this idio... persons confused... maybe I’m mistaken and stupid... like her.
Oh thank u n I was talking to @VanillaSalt.
Now to you it’s obviously smth else n ur prob those white folks that are racist but pretend not to be and so they have to point out reasons they aren’t racist 😂😂. I was being respectful to your opinion and clearly U didn’t understand mine so :P shouldn’t have even commented not that I care what u prefer tbh.
If you reread my comment you’ll see I was referring to the asshole calling me stupid. Also I didn’t downrate you. So I think you owe me an apology.
Calling me racist not stupid.
Also my comment takes different or second languages under consideration while mentioning skin color for preference. I was also not rude about it. You really need to reread the whole thing and comprehend what is being said.
Now you look like a jerk.
Oh it’s cuz u had my @ in it so I thought it was referring to me and u added im not stupid like her. I thought u were referring about my opinion and were switching my words n calling me names n bringing me into it lol. Sorry but next time don’t add someones @ ur not arguing with 😂 cuz it could get mixed up like that.
Na I was just as I typed asking what I said she’s bitching about. But ya my ability to understands 10/10 but my ability to share is like 2/10 my communication skills suck lol
So I’ll take part of the blame. My bad.
Actually I doubt anybody is going and marrying someone of another race in hopes of improving or advancing DNA. If there is they're hardcore, but seriously it shouldn't be an issue and I wonder is it such an issue in other countries. I heard a while back a clip from the news that there won't be any 100% Native American blood line in about 20 years. Or something like that which is sad. I hate to hear something like that. There's so much of the worlds culture's and history that has already been lost or forgotten. I think it's important to keep traditions alive if possible but at least to keep a record of as much of the ways of the past. There's so much we can learn from each other's cultures even the everyday stuff. Anyways marrying just to mix races doesn't sound like a lasting marriage to me. I think that marrying the person you truly love regardless of their race is what marriage is about
That's sounds of like the Alien's agenda on how to take over Earth without a fight. Slowly create human hybrids and keep injecting their DNA with ours until we are all Aliens.

If you believe in evolution. We were all the same until we fucked it up at the Tower of Babel. Now we are all different races and at each others throats as you and @prince370 have demonstrated. If we do mix races which one do we all want to become? Be they yellow, red, or white or be blacker than the night what are the little children of the world?
Evolution is something that happens on its own - there is zero need to organise it. Organising and codifying evolution is perversion of it. We all adapt, one way or another - if you go out to one of the unspoilt places, you see wildlife in incredible density - and most animals are neither prey nor predator. Those are the outliers the greedy boomers admire and focus on.
@TerminallyChill I got it... (takes swig of bourbon)
@TerminallyChill Hey, men have evolved into Horn Dogs so maybe there may be something to it.
Races ARE REAL!
There ARE BIOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES!
they are lying to everyone to destroy a social construct that was made by the "evil white man".
RACES ARE REAL!
My god... we are DIFFERENT RACES!
@ChillWhiteGuy My God, he pulled this question out of the trash from more than a year ago.
I don't know why people have a problem with race mixing. Who gives a fuck about race anyway? Race is only skin deep. If you want to marry outside your race then go ahead.
Men are racist :p
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And if we want to marry individuals for who they are as individuals, without fetishizing them as "exotic" on account of "belonging to a different race" in your/society's eyes and racially profiling them for it, then what's wrong with that?
you don't have to know why, you fucking Libtard
no actually the best way to move past racism is to stop fucking talking about it!
stop going on and on about shit that happened over a Century ago to people you didn't even know!
stop making racial slurs such as "white boy" or "cave dweller". that will help to stop racism.
Race doenst matter! Do what you want to do! Do what makes you happy!
Agreed. Just had a thought about inbred civilizations...
while there isn't a problem with mixed race families, i don't think it should be something we "strive" for, in the sense that it shouldn't be the end all be all in families and marriages. i think that we should just naturally fall in love with whoever we fall in love with, and if they happen to be someone from a different race, that's okay. if they happen to be someone from your own race, that's okay too.
you CAN control who you fall in love with.
Preserve your god dang traits and stop saying what people want to read just to make yourself not look like a "Nazi". Let these snowflakes think that you're a Nazi for not wanting to mix out what took thousands of years to perfect.
Shouldn't strive for it. That requires forcing people into only dating from select groups. That's equally as fucked up as trying to maintain racial purity. Let people make their own choices.
@KrakenAttackin Again... where do I call for mass inter-breeding programs?
@KrakenAttackin way ahead of you bro
@KrakenAttackin Lol, no where in my simplistic-to-understand question do I call for forced interbreeding?
@KrakenAttackin I actually think “black pride” and alike is not good longterm. But short term they’re literally fighting against a sea of law enforcement killing black men.
@KrakenAttackin And spoiler alert, using previous KKK slogans will get you booed.
maintaining racial purity isn't fucked up either, you anti-white liberal leftist.
People should get with whoever they want. There is no need to intentionally strive to mix. You would just be substituting one kind of limited choice with another. So just let people pick who they want.
Personally I think the world would be boring if everyone were a bunch of clones. Diversity makes it interesting. It's the reason why so many people like to travel.
@OddBeMe I just it "odd" that you would even mention a term like race-mixing. While "White" supremacists believe in this weirdness of pure race, truthfully racism would exist even after the mythological races "mixed". Because racism is a political strategy. It proceeds from a social construct. Racists would simply move to another biased standard and claim they were being objective when deciding what makes folks different from each other.
Maybe, I’m in the boat of Mary and have kids with who you love rather then force people to marry or have kids with someone they don’t want to. I have no issue with interracial marriage i just don’t think we should force it on people, Basically find the person you were meant to be with and marry them who cares what color their skin is
No!
Race mixing is the ultimate crime against nature and one’s ancestors.
Races are not the same under the skin.
There is a reason why almost all modern technology was created by white men.
Your idea of mass miscegenation would result in the end of technological civilisation and a global dark age that would not end, because we would be replaced by an unimaginative miscegenated Orc race that would have an IQ not far north of retarded.
They would also be physically repulsive.
I come from an interracial family. My Dad was adopted off an Indian Reservation into a white family. I date interracially.
I do NOT think we should strive to be interracial. I think we should have love happen naturally. However... i prefer my kids to be interracial. 😊❤
Why did people vote me down? All i was saying was that people should love who they love. Nobody should be like "Oh she is a different color than me so I am going to date her." If you are a black man and feel attracted to a black woman then be with that woman. Dont base your attraction on what color someone is. haha. I thought all this was basic? Yet 2 guys voted me down?
No. Integration and multiculturalism was the greatest disinformation tactic ever sold. From a black American perspective, it has done nothing positive in terms of material benefit for the black community and is actually used as a way to stifle our progress. It gave us the illusion of inclusion without actually including.
There's white nationalists liking my comment. Let me be clear, we are NOT against Multiculturalism and Integration for the same reason. You just hate non-whites, I realized they were used as a psychological measure to keep black people docile and stagnant.
The eugenicists of the early 20th century considered their views to be "progressive." When you say "we" in your question I assume you're referring to society as a whole. How exactly do you propose that society "strive" for race mixing? Tax incentives? Preferential hiring for those with a mixed race marriage? What's your progressive plan?
I don't know about y'all but I am getting a white husband, like it or not. That doesn't mean you all should follow my lead, be yourselves and don't try to be me.
You've decided on ethnicity beforehand? Why? XD
That's fair enough! I wish you Godspeed in finding the man of your dreams.
@Jack9949 I tick all the boxes for a great girlfriend but for some reason the only people who leave a bad taste in my mouth are the men from my race. I can tell my qualities intimated them and makes them not know how to act, but it is not the same when I am with a white man, they act normal with me and things move smoother. Black men want a good woman without the responsibility of being a good man. And yes I've only had two relationships with white men, but I am still friends with them and it did not end badly, they also taught me more about myself and life than I've learned from the men from my race. I also like that they have higher IQs, more responsible and they have foresight, this is why they don't act reckless and ruin their future just because, last but not least, I do not mind having a biracial baby, they are cute.
I 100% believe this is a black woman. That's just because I'm aware of the social conditioning that many mentally frail black people suffer from. Seeing coons is nothing new.
@AlexanderAnttila She is an idiot because that's me in the picture and I was born in Jamaica. But, I love seeing her ignorant, delusional behind tell me that I am a catfish. I have had so many accounts on here and I have always been black, so meningitis can kick rocks.
This is just one of the many things I cannot stand about my people, but at the same time their dysfunctionalities have become comical because I have separated myself like a distant family member, so she can keep denying that black people aren't demon possessed.
I am saving my children and bloodline, because I am not God and cannot fix a centuries long mystery of why black people how they do. Slavery isn't even why my people is like this but they love to blame it on slavery, they need to be soaked in holy water with some extra added holy and I ain't got time. I want kids with lovely personalities and a bright future who don't inherit or deal with all this and this conversation is over.
Yikes, I don't think I've ever seen such a huge diss.
Speaking as someone with an Afro-Caribbean mother, and plenty of family friends from Jamaica, I can totally believe that this is genuinely a Jamaican woman who's never left the Caribbean in her life. However, bear in mind, @Newhead, that these attributes are NOT racial attributes, they are CULTURAL. And just the same as I could claim that "Black women either want a good man without the responsibility of being a good woman, or they only want 'ghetto thugs' because if you're not one, you're a 'coconut', they're the fattest, ugliest, most unfaithful and worthless women in all the world", on the basis of my experiences with any and all pre-menopausal black women, it's not predicated upon race, but upon the personal values which they choose to adopt and value, and to claim as their "racial identity". If your black men are all like this, why didn't their mothers, grandmothers, aunts and sisters raise them to be better than that? Simple- you all WANTED them to be that way. Try taking responsibility for your own failings- if black mothers these days are even capable of doing so.
@DevilsAdvocator I am removing myself from the chaos, simple as that. I am just tired and I refuse to bear the cross of something I didn't cause.
We should strive for true love only, someones race should not be seen as a boost for your childs dna.. As a mixed person myself i’d say its quite tough, you don't really feel completely at home at neither of them.
what a bucket of cheese.
get out of here with that. you CAN in fact help who you fall in love with. it's easier to vibe with someone of your own Race. Always has been.
No. Why should we? What purpose would it serve? People will "mix" with those they can relate to, which means those they have a lot in common with, and not those who are significantly different. It's human nature, and it's not about to change.
You need to start by explaining why "mixing DNA" should be the ideal a society strives to optimize. You have not done so.
I can think of other ideals which I think have a higher priority, such as optimizing liberty.
You are talking about a form of genetic engineering. I no way do I think that is a desirable ideal for a society to pursue.
I don't mind being in a mixed relationship, I have been in some before, but I wouldn't be actively looking for it only for their genes or whatever other reason.
Will you Americans shut up.
Jesus not everyone wants their country like your shit hole.
If someone wants to marry someone outside their own group that's fine.
But it's not going to be shove down our throats.
With peole like you i wonder why so many Europeans are leaning towards the right 🙄
Who is American? I'm not. What the heck.
I'm pretty sure there were several awkward moments from the family members. trying to vibe with a person who's literally different from you physically and mentally.
@Lj121200 Right, because the Entire Country of America will shut up all because some Far Left European tells us to. Race Mixing is being shoved down OUR throats. So that goes both ways.
I am, though. I wish that America was only White.
What an extremely unscientific, stupid, bourgeois, IDpol-based baby talk and you have no rational basis to support your ideological point of view.
That said, stop making us Leftists look stupid.
Why?
What's so hard to get about my argument?
I said that you're seeing the world through the misleading lens of IDpol and it serves only to bring negative attention to us.
There's zero value in doing anything just for the symbolic sake of progress. That does absolutely nothing for humanity.
Stipulating to breed with other races by command is not fighting inbreeding and marrying within your ethnicity has nothing to do with inbreeding. The largest cases of inbreeding were those who wanted to keep bloodlines of nobility or royalty "pure" like the Habsburgs.
Which again I infer is pointless because it's only a symbolic, "let's be progressive" move. There's nothing wrong with ethnicities as they are.
And racism will never be eradicated, just like crime. It's impossible for as long as man is imperfect. Even if you got all humans on earth to be mixed, new divisions would arise out of those appearances.
It's not about being useful or useless, ethnicities exist, period. And even mixing everyone in the world would only create new ones.
The idea of a united earth treads over to the realm of nations which isn't inherently connected to ethnicity, that too is a very chaotic and dangerous notion and furthermore never once attempted nor successfully achieved.
Merely because it hasn't been done? That once more sounds like pointless motives to me.
More than that, it should be about the fact that race no longer remains a factor. Ones race shouldn't have anything to do with dating, that would beba time when racism becomes nearly depleted.
Obviously nobody should feel obligated to date someone but we do have to make sure our type is simply a preference and not due to underlying racism.
Lol strive? I think that’s a bit of a strong word. If it happens and it’s real love them beautiful.
Not really?
There is nothing wrong with mixing race but I don't find any benefits to doing so either.
Also... the DNA of any race to another is so close to others that it's literally negligible.
That sounded like a bad excuse a KKK member would use to NOT mix
No, im from a rare ethnic group if we all reproduced out 'look, culture, language' entirely would disappear our genetics are pretty recessive and few at the west who do reproduce out kids look nothing like them they always look like the other parent.
My people are most beautiful, why would I want to self extinct myself?
It'd help if we could see what you or your people look like. I'm willing to bet my left nut you and your entire immediate family is average looking.
Lol couldn't be further than truth.
The world may never know
Westerns won't ever understand unfortunately. Race mixing isn't a good idea, it doesn't work for you either and its just a trend most westerns cannot get along with diverse population and you have racism. The divorce rate, single motherhood, crime rate is high. Westerns also lack self love for their own people, I feel bad for women who are afraid men of their race won't marry them. Keeping my heritage prevents all this. We have a different set of values and I wouldn't want my future progeny to get lost in bad 21st century ideas.
See now this is a grand wizard
@TerminallyChill Yes, you are right, Deputy Wizard.
Lmao im not white
@TerminallyChill See? This is how western white 'liberals' really see and treat ethnic minorities. Unless you can dehumanize them, sexualize them, or claim moral supremacism on the basis of tokenist gestures to further entrench their alleged inherent racial inferiority to you, you don't give a crap about their independence, cultural preservation or integrity- you just want them all to either conform to your own ideals, or to roll over and die.
@DevilsAdvocator You obviously haven't seen any of my other posts. Everyone knows I'm a self professed black nationalist. Assuming makes you look like an ass bro
@DevilsAdvocator Well, mate - western 'white' liberals are nothing more than a front for American blacks.
They demand liberty to loot/be freeloaders. Hence the debt America is in.
@prince370 What crack are you smoking? James Brown told me to ask from heaven. White liberals are just as racist as white conservatives.
THEN WHY ARE PEOPLE MIXING?
TO ENHANCE PHYSICAL TRAITS?
YEAH, WE WANT TO SAVE PHYSICAL TRAITS! DEAL WITH IT, LIBERAL!
ALSO, INTERBREEDING IS REPORDUCING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER!
REPRODUCING WITH A PERSON WHO'S OF THE SAME RACE WHO'S NOT RELATED ISN'T INTERBREEDING!
@TerminallyChill mixed race people are also just average looking at best, most of the time they are fucking goofy looking.
Mixing with other White people who aren't related to you ISN'T INTERBREEDING!!! Mating with a Family Member is.
You fucking Idiot.
@ChillWhiteGuy it is. We can track whites all the way southern rim of Africa.
that was a LONG TIME AGO!!
@TerminallyChill just as average looking as most black guys who are able to get good looking white women
Biologically speaking, yes, mixed races should be something we strive for. The more degrees of genetic separation, the more diverse the gene pool becomes, which allows for healthier offspring. And since people of different races have are about as far apart genetically as humans can be, it would benefit the species as whole if we have more mixed race offspring.
If that’s what the person wants, sure. But it shouldn’t become expected of people to mix if that isn’t what they want.
a good amount of people are still Tribal.
I pray that it stays that way and mixing becomes illegal again very soon.
If people want to do so, fine, but it is not inherently good itself. Sleeping with a person of another race doesn't make you a less bigoted person by definition. Some slaveholders married slaves and even left their estates to the children of such unions.
The only thing we should strive for is what makes us happy.
We should strive for tolerance and not seeing an issue in who anyone chooses to marry. We should strive for a world when we see a couple and go “isn’t it nice that they’ve found love in each other.”
I’m not from the US but I feel that people there categorise things by race an awful lot. I think in general we should focus more on celebrating culture.
Yeah "should" is a strong word. Who is anyone to decide what should or shouldn't be done. Some people mix races some people don't, the idea is to not see races to begin with when choosing a partner.
Eh, this just leads to a discussion about eugenics with racial Marxism undertones.
People obviously should be free to make their own decisions who they have relationships with. Coercing them to have relationships with people they don't themselves choose is totalitarian.
Well, given that there are billions of people in a race, it doesn’t matter much that it is kept in one race. There are genetic arguments against it such as IQ. In general, it will happen. But specifically, dumb people need to be allowed to fail. Selective breeding of slaves pushed forward strength but not intelligence in many case. I don’t want that in my family stream.
no. it's not.
stop doing it.
strive to keep it the way it is now and evolve from here.
if race is just a social construct, then mixing wouldn't give you healthier offspring.
also, not all mixed people are "more attractive" either. I wish leftists like you would just keep your thoughts to yourself and stop trying to push something that makes many people uncomfortable..
Not at all - a) mixing only removes diversity and creates the tyranny of enforced equality, b) is unnatural, we are all wired to like our own colours/backgrounds/values/ways of life.
If we all mixed, the result would be a bland, irrelevant and non descript evolutionary dead end.
Whoever promoted that, promoted it only to get those who are suckers into believing it.
What ethnicity are you to have such misplaced beliefs?
I think it is not a good thing, nor a bad thing. Besides, there are other ways of imporving your genes, something called CRISPR Cas-9 is about to bring a revolution in the world of gene editing. Think designer babies, human beings without any diseases, and even animal-human hybrids which sounds quite problematic.
People like you are the exact reason why so many Europeans are leaning towards the right.
I like my blonde hair and blue eyes and so does my girlfriend
If yoy like someone from a different background that's fine.
But i prefer my scandinavian heritage.
Ps you Americans can get stuffed everyone is sick of shoving your cultural marxism down our throats.
We shouldn't strive for anything but love. It doesn't matter what the race is. Chemistry between a couple is the only thing that matters.
We don't have to "strive" for it. If it's not forbidden it will happen. Many people are attracted to the exotic. With increasing acceptance it's becoming more and more common in the US.
It’s individual choice not a government law
Do you even see how ugly those mutt children are? They only exist because mulattos are easier to make slaves. The lower IQ the more submissive a breed is. People like you want the weakest of a society possible.
this will only do damage, as nobody has any sense of unity and you break people down into smaller and smaller sub categories. they won't unite, they will collapse
as i have said many times diversity doesn't work
Sure why not. Children of mixed families are beautiful!!!
Liberal
No. I see no reason to "strive" for it. But it shouldn't be avoided, either. Just let people do what they want.
We should be with whomever we want to be, based on their personality, and how attracted we feel to a person. Not the race.
Yes! Everyone find someone of another race to fuck.
I pass up white girls, hoping to meet a Hispanic or African or Asian woman!
We should strive to love, marry and procreate with whoever we see fit. Different race? Great. Same race? Who cares.
Just let people do what makes them happiest.
Well thats the great thing there is enough people that want differnt things that we all having somthing out there qhat we want
Or maybe you can fuck and make kids with whothefuckever you want? Maybe it's not should or shouldn't? Oh my god who is this anonymous genius who solved this problem? Oh my fucking god we may never find out.
Strive for? Lol that shouldn't be a mission or something forced onto someone. If anyone wants to do that, sure. But no one is obligated to do that.
You can also add your opinion below!