The Republican party strikes me as controlled opposition to neoliberalism. They exist to give people the illusion of choice and give people on the right hope, all while the overton window keeps moving leftward. They even affirm the left over time, hence their opposition to Trump and his populace nationalism. Over the past 60 or so years, real, genuine right wing thought has been thoroughly disempowered. The left has a slew of news media platforms and organizations, not to mention the entirety of academia and big tech in their hands. What does the right have? Fox News? Breitbart? LOL Because of this, there is not about to be another civil war. Civil war requires an opposing side that has real power, organization, and leadership. MAGA has none of that at this point. They want everyone to believe we're at the brink of war because a hysterical, gullible, delusional, and naive population are easier to control.
Could MAGA America potentially win an informal guerrilla style war? Possibly. MAGA has guns (for now) and control over the majority of the geographical landscape, including agriculture. But the neoliberal elite ain't stupid and they likely won't let it come to that. They'l give people enough breadcrumbs and comfort to keep them from declaring war, all while they continue to slowly erode the presence and influence of their reactionary opposition even more so.
All in all, I don't understand why rightwingers are gung ho about civil war anyways. They strike me as way overconfident. They lost the American Civil War. They lost WWII. How many more defeats in pivotal wars do they think they can endure? They're pretty much on their last leg at this point.
First, the Democrats outnumber the Republicans. Second, they are smarter. Wars aren't won by who can yell the loudest or who has the most guns in their mobile home. Third, the blue states wouldn't bother fighting. We would be happy for the southern and midwestern states to secede. Then we would no longer have to fight a system that gives rural voters 20x the power of Californians in the Senate. And we would be better off economically. Money flows from the rich coastal states to the poor southern and midwestern states. Y'all can go form your little country and watch the smart people leave. But guess what? It wouldn't be the old confederacy. Virginia and North Carolina and Florida won't join you. It will be WV, KY, TN, AL, SC, LA, KS, OK, MO, IN, maybe Texas but you better hurry before it turns blue like Georgia.
Whoever controls the federal military and military reserve. Sure every state has a national guard but when the the standing us military is brought home different story
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Democrats would win easily. First of all they are more, secondly they have more wealth and resources and lastly they are far better at organizing themselves both on a logistical side of things and also on the work ethics side of things since that takes a lot of effort of dedicated people.
Republicans on the other hand talk a big talk but for all their claims of being "prepared" they are just deluding themselves. They conflate owning guns and playing militia to preparedness partially because of their beliefs in the protection of firearms and partially because they believe in a Hollywood depiction of a civil war. Their own delusions of protection and grandeur will be their own downfall.
China or Russia, my vote is on China.
one them will launch a pre emptive strike, likely after North Korea has hit West Coast with a number of nukes.
the more polarised the spam society gets, the greater the chance of someone doing something
for example with some of the major hacks in last 6 months (sunburst etc) people have been blaming the other political spectrum rather than external agencies, country.
It’s reckoned that the days around the handover were the most vulnerable the US have ever been to a pre emptive strike.
Republicans would win because they have all the best guns and know how to use them. Democrats hate guns but might have strength in numbers due to mob mentality. They're better at mobilising in groups, whereas the Republicans are more fragmented but can defend a fixed position better. The dems wouldn't be able to even set foot in places like Texas, but they'd likely lock down major strategic coastal areas like NYC and L. A. I don't think the republicans would care enough to mount any meaningful counter-assault on major coastal cities, they'd be more concerned with defending inland towns and cities. There'd possibly be tension points where Democrat strongholds share borders with republican strongholds, but I don't see either side making meaningful advances into one another's territory.
Fwiw I don't think it would ever actually go this far, but it's a fun thought experiment.
the democrats would put up a good fight from recruiting criminals like rapist, murderers, child molesters, junkies, tweakers, arsonist, domestic terrorist and basic weaponry like shotguns, rifles and pistols. it'll be all good on their side until the criminals turn on them mid-fight and start trafficking the women and children democrat and liberals and get them hooked on. hard drugs turning them into criminals and terrorist.
the Republicans will stay vigilant like always and form strong anti-communist militias with much better weaponry like snipers, assault rifles, custom weapons etc. the patriots ready to lay down their lives for everyone including the ignorant left. 🇺🇸 🦅 45
Likely the Republicans. Red states tend to have more people with military training (vets), more gun iwners, more heavy industry, disproportionate representation in active duty units, and they grow all the food. If there was a civil war similar to what happened in the 1860s, the republicans would likely win again. If the civil war is decetralized, more like gang violence, then who knows? If the federal government stays in one piece, and the states all remain part of the union, then you won't see massed troops on both sides. You'll see something more like the violence in North Ireland.
Who fights wars? Military men and women. Who is in the special forces? ... Along with the police, these institutions are overwhelmingly conservative. Until the democrats create super robot warriors to fight on their behalf they won't have much of a chance.
The biggest resource that the left has is the news media. They would use this to spread confusion, doubt and lies about what is really going on. If I was one of the group that they were lying about I would start by completely overwhelming their production and news facilities. Chop the head off and take them out early.
A civil war would just be the military vs. Republicans. If it's anything else then Republicans would win.
They control 90% of the land, half the population, most of the oil and gas reserves, could besiege their island cities very quickly, they have all the guns, etc. Only thing Democrats would have is some limited foreign support, but the Republicans would also have that. Most nuclear facilities are also in Republican rural areas and would be more effective against densely populated cities.
Republicans easily. Most military and law enforcement members are Republican. Yes, they would uphold their oaths and training, but once the government failed there would be no government to protect. Republicans are the party that favor weapons, which are needed to win a war. Republicans make up more of those trained to hunt and fight. Republicans have more mental fortitude. We do not get upset over a color, gender or whatever else is silly and minor.
The reason why countries have standing armies is that a standing army is way more effective.
That's why republicans, they have a standing army.
But if the US had a civil war, it wouldn't be republican VS democrats.
It's always a side proped up by a foreign nation when it comes to modern civil war, and a side that's from the country or that's proped up by another foreign nation.
And both republicans and democrats would join each side.
China and Russia would win, everyone here would be losers. Following the Trump lead insurrection on January six, we are closer to a civil war than at any time in the last 156 years,
The democrats would put all the republicans in concentration camps and gas them, then they'd all die of starvation without anyone to pay for their food stamps.
Your guess is wrong.
Doesn't matter who "looks" tough. It matters who the military would support, and that is the democrats in most cases at the moment.
If you exclude any military control variables; likely right-wingers. They just have more guns and whatnot... Actual experience with guns.
Republicans have firepower. Democrats have smarts. It takes more than brute force to win a fight or a war. It means nothing if your opponent can outsmart you.
They would win, but they wouldn't have to. Dems would collapse from infighting first, long before we reach civil war.
Again, you don't understand politic. Most Republicans will side with Democrats. It is Conservatives vs Liberals and Conservatives would win, because they have more guns and knives.
It comes down to money. Who has the money? Blue states or red states?
Hint: where is the stock market based?
Yet the liberals have the Government. They'd bring in an invading force and then the one world government will be realized.
No one would win; this country will Balkanize, and fuck it all.
The Republicans are most like the confederates and the Democrats like the union. We know who wins. It's time the Republicans came out of the dark ages.
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