How do you feel about the legalization of all drugs?

[WowwGirl]

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[Anpu23]

Drug addiction is a medical condition. Criminalizing it makes as much sense as criminalizing type 2 diabetes. Getting it out of the courts and into the medical system just makes sense.

[exitseven]

No, except for people that get addicted to opiates from a doctor's prescription, people choose to put these substances in their bodies. They think it is fun and will have no consequences. I have little sympathy for them.

[Anpu23]

@exitseven They do choose, and yes it's a horrible situation. But I am not the moral arbiter for all of humanity. Nor is anyone else, their body their choice, why pay for incarceration, courts and all of that over a personal choice? Instead if and or when they hit bottom, let them seek help... incarceration is just an expensive way to stop people who don't want to stop. Waste of state resources...

[exitseven]

It becomes an untenable situation when B&Es and robberies increase and a lot of these people end up in the Emergency Room and go through rehab time after time. Ask the local Sherriff or whoever manages the local jails and they will give a different picture of this.

[Anpu23]

@exitseven Criminal activity is a result of untreated drug use. In places where it is legal you don't see it. Look at the Netherlands, low crime rate and legal drugs.

[exitseven]

So the government is going to give people free dope? It is just shifting the expense onto taxpayers along with medical care , narcan etc. Young people will get addicted in record numbers and once they get addicted only a minority end up giving it up. Yes, having a medical infrastructure will minimize ODs but the taxpayers still have to pay for it. It is irresponsible to do this.

[Anpu23]

@exitseven No. I'm saying that the current system is quite expensive. www.americanprogress.org/.../ and treating simply makes more sense from a tax payer perspective. I believe that people can and do change, that once a junkie not always a junkie. If there was no hope to cure them, then we still are going about it in the most expensive way possible. The war on drugs was a big waste of funds and we must look at it from a new set of eyes or we'll just continue spinning our wheels.

[exitseven]

I do not want my children or future grandchildren to have easy and socially acceptable access to heroin or cocaine.

[Anpu23]

Thanks for MHO

[WowwGirl]

Anytime

[TallAnon]

"All" drugs? I imagine society would collpase similarly to China after the opium wars of 1840, also causing a rebellion where over 20 million people died.

[WowwGirl]

Oregon already did this

[TallAnon]

Good luck with that shitshow 😂 Getting people addicted and syphoning money will definitely be a lot easier.

[WowwGirl]

Right

[TallAnon]

I hope they at least made it illegal for <18 to carry, sell or use

[WowwGirl]

No idea I was disgusted

[Kingofkings1992]

Oregon didn’t legalize all drugs, they decriminalized them. Huge difference

[TallAnon]

Definitely a big difference yeah, although still dangerous. But yeah, I read up on it; It seems like you can still get it taken away and you can still get fined for having it. There's just no jail time when that happens.

[A_Bell]

Yes, with the same product liability with any product.

If we truly belive in freedom, control over your own body is the most important freedom.

Alcohol and tobacco are horrors compared to any other drug. They kill and ruin more lived than anything. But, we get over it and allow people to do it.

2 years ago, I got drunk every weekend. I was lucky and eventually lost the desire to drink. I never did any other drug, but if I had kept up, I would be no better off than a drug addict.

[MasseurDeMojo]

I know that by making all drugs legal; it means that the State can tax them, an make a killing off of their sales. The problem is; that too many people will be affected by this in a bad way, as their addiction will be fed more, and more will over dose, as it will be easier to find their drugs of choice. People will be high more often, and in a lot of cases, unable to work, because of their high.

It may bring down drug related crime, since it is now easier to acquire your drugs. Over all, it may cause serious issues when you wish to have children. But it will be good at making less drug crimes. We now need to educate all about the drugs, and their affects on ones body, so people will not consume them without have full disclosure of what they are about to put their body through, listing all properties, implications, and side effects.

[Floppy2112]

Well, it would put the cartels out of business. And while I am all for doing what you want and being able to put whatever you want into your own body and stuff, some of this stuff is evil. Meth, Fentanyl, or the combo resulting is super-meth are pretty lethal. So while I am fine with most of it, some of it can be legit be classified as poison. So I am a little torn. But, putting the cartels out of business and providing people safe versions of their drug of choice is appealing to me. It's a difficult question.

[AndrewMG]

Drugs shouldn't be criminalised, the actions people take on drugs should be criminalised. If someone smokes a joint, sniffs some coke etc and knows the consequences and doesn't hurt anyone else then they are not criminals. The minute there actions affect someone else negatively then that is when it becomes criminal.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Seems like the best solution to win the "war on drugs".

Portugal, decrimilised all possesion of drugs, and instead of punishing the consumer/addict they offer help and rehab. They now got the lowest amount of drug addicts in all of Europe by far.
Drug dealers are still punished and face justice in court.

[Crazybeeguy]

Glad someone pointed this out.

[Citizenkirk]

It would be the most effective means of getting rid of them completely. Unlimited availability, without legal consequence and unlimited information on how destructive they can be when misused, will eliminate the cool factor, wow factor, forbidden fruit factor, and mystique involved in experimentation and need to learn the hard way.
Doing recreational or unnecessary prescription drugs, will be as cool and appealing as picking up a dog turd and putting it in your mouth.

[Guardian45]

All for drug legalization! Best way to fight drug proliferation is to make it legal and TAX the SH! T out of it! Then watch crime and overdoses DROP through the floor.

[Crazybeeguy]

That wouldn't work, black market would just offer lower prices.

[WowwGirl]

@Crazybeeguy true

[SummusImperator]

Probably not a great idea. I am all for the legalization of certain drugs, but legalizing all drugs will just create a massive increases of deaths and harm/addiction.

[Oppressed_Leecher]

meth heroin crack PCP should always be illegal. those drugs are a straight up gateway to hell. LSD shrooms and weed in okay with. coke I always felt was a decent not too addicting drug. haven't done it in over 10 years but it never made me want to spend an arm and leg to get and stay high. It was kind of like alcohol to me. once you wake up the next morning you don't crave it or anything.
so yeah Coke I'm fine with being legal, the others hell no way too addicting.

[zagor]

Lots of people walking around mumbling to themselves due to LSD and such.

[Oppressed_Leecher]

@zagor

how do you know it's lsd?
maybe they been up for a few days

[zagor]

Because I would see the same people doing so weeks apart when I went downtown.

[zagor]

Also one of my best buds from middle school is pretty much stuck there mentally do to 'shrooms and acid.

[Oppressed_Leecher]

@zagor fuuuk...

I know a ton high school friends that turn to meth, 20 years a
later I see them downtoen in tents still tweakin. sad man

[zagor]

Yeah that is nasty stuff; they probably look 40 years older too.

[Oppressed_Leecher]

@zagor I see the pros.
cartels would lose business
crime would drop

it would have to be in an extremely controlled system

[Oppressed_Leecher]

@zagor yep most of them look like in their mid 40s

[zagor]

I think it's one of those things that sounds good in theory but would be a mess in practice.

[Oppressed_Leecher]

@zagor like socialism

[Oppressed_Leecher]

about OP's update. that's explains the high spike in crime. dumb down Oregon and keep them voting blue through and be democrat foot soldiers who will riot all night and day hopped up on meth if a republican gets into office

Hitler did the same thing with his soldiers democrats play dirty

[Oppressed_Leecher]

people are going to get hooked younger and younger and with Harris wanting 16 year olds to vote will just turn them into meth addict blue voters who will riot and riot keeping the state blue forever. until one day it implodes into itself. I would NEVER raised my child in a state that has full decriminalization.

[TomGarand]

(Read in singsong voice) Oh, hell nooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

[WowwGirl]

I agree

[TomGarand]

Did you read it in sinngsong voice?

[WowwGirl]

No I don't sing lol not a talent of mine

[exitseven]

I knew a cop that used to say that they should just put out tables with piles of drugs on them an just let them kill themselves with it because that's what they want to do in the first place.

[exitseven]

We will become a nation of zombies. It will make the 70's look like the 50's.

[Juxtapose]

It works in European countries and people who say it can't work here don't believe in America.

[WowwGirl]

I don't know either way

[Juxtapose]

America is about freedom and the greatest freedom is autonomy over our bodies.

My body, my choice! Sound familiar?

[WowwGirl]

Kinda

[WowwGirl]

Lol😊

[FunkyMonkee]

Marijuana: Fine! No problem with that.
LSD: No problem with that, either under controlled conditions (don't want someone jumping out a window!)
The others: NAAAAAAH!!

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I think people found with illegal drugs in them shouldn't serve jail time but get sentenced to get therapy / get on methadone programs / get on suboxone programs

[OddBeMe]

Supportive. Just need fda, doctors etc to say what dosages are safe- just like they do with tobacco and alcohol. Not sure why cocaine or heroine couldn’t be sold in diluted forms legally. E-meth, baby.

[Andres77]

As a government employee with a security clearance... it doesn't matter for me. I can't touch anything.

[Paulychicago10]

Thats just dumb. I understand weed, but chemically produced drugs should not be legal beside the medically approved brands.

[msc545]

Might as well. Trying to get rid of them hasn't worked.

[WowwGirl]

I think it's horrible

[MadBoy]

Well, it means a lot of taxes are gonna be involved. And a lot of people are gonna want out of jail.

[joeldalton]

I agree with it. At the very least decriminalize them

[Still-alive]

For it as long as its highly regulated, taxed and maybe an age limit

[JesseJayNeak]

Light drugs should have been enough. Why add the others?

[bannacookies]

I agree with what @Anpu23 stated.

[MannMitAntworten]

Natural selection will speed up…

[2ndTryatThis]

Some are so dangerous that it would make no sense.

[GermanGuy87]

I support this idea 👍

[WowwGirl]

Yes ma'am

[WowwGirl]

I can tell you support everything

[Yellovv]

I think not a good idea...

[TonyMetal___86]

Drugs should always be illegal

[Xoirwinkan]

I hate drugs, and tend to despise the users.

[Gwenhwyfar]

Very troubled

[WowwGirl]

I agree

[Leavesbound]

Very bad idea.

[Iron_Man]

Bad idea

[Pterodon]

Very bad idea