Do you believe Trump won in 2020?

[ElizaPam]

Trump gained over 10 million votes in 2020 over 2016. America loves him. Obama lost 5 million votes from 2008 to 2012. America is sick of Democrats. No way Joe got more votes than Obama in my 2008. The elites knew they couldn’t get Trump out without fraud.

Yes, COVID was used to cover up a mail in ballot scam

No, I trust the media and elites

[hellionthesagereborn]

Well techincally the mail in ballots where already being implemented before covid. Many democrat run states had already pushed them for that election cycle months prior, many of them circumventing their own and by extension the federal constitutions that require them to be voted in by congress (so many of the new election laws that democrats put in place where all illegal to begin with but our government, from the supreme court to republicans is so utterly worthless that it doesn't matter that it was illegal (and for all the leftist, no, the supreme court never stated what they did was legal, in fact they circumvented the whole issue by claiming that no one had "standing"(which itself is not an actual law and is a stance that has no standing from a legal perspective) to challenge the states who openly violated the law (the states never contested the violations either, they didn't have to).

So we know for a fact that they commited fraud. We also know that big tech colluded with the democrats to sway the election which is also illegal. We also know that at least in the maricopa county findings that over 70,000 mail in ballots came back then where sent out among many other issues which are either evidence of massive corruption and fraud OR massive incompetence of the politicians to the point where they should all be impeacehd because they don't know what they are doing.

So we know for a fact fraud happened, we know that the left perpetuated it and we know the left fought tooth and nail against any investigation (ironic as they made us go through three years of investigation into Trumps election despite having ZERO evidence, having violated the law multiple times to do it and finding nothing, meanwhile this time we had video evidence, legal documentation, and 138 Sworn and signed affidavits which are by legal definition, evidence admissable in the court of law).

As to whether or not he won, you can't really say yes unless their is a full investigation and since the democrats and the left have fought against this tooth and nail even violating the law and refusing subpoena's this is not likely to take place.

That said, what is more likely, that the group who changed all the rules to the election illegally before it took place, refused to allow republican ballot watchers to check ballots, and who fight against any attempt to verify ballots who also had unprecedented turn outs. . . . in areas that they desperately needed to win while having underwhelming turnout in democrat strongholds while also never campaigning the entire election cycle with multiple reports and measurements predicting Bidens loss over the high enthusiasm non stop campaigning of Trump who had beaten out the up to that point most popular president in history (Obama) by over a million votes is the group that actually won the election OR is it more likely that all of this was fraud?

I think every one knows the answer to that which is why the left is terrified of the prospect of an investigation (even now that Biden is in office and their is no legal way to get rid of him if it is discovered he is illegitimate (because the left has control of congress).

[MCheetah]

Yes, I would bet all the money I have that Trump legitimately won in 2020, but as we've seen, it really doesn't matter now and conservatives, and everyone else, is completely fine with election fraud and letting Puppet Joe and his masters f*ck over what's left of America.

Biden literally questioned people's blackness, touched so many females inappropriately, including young girls, pushed Bernie out of the spotlight (the guy all the Democrats really wanted; not that I like Sanders, but he's leagues better than Biden), and couldn't even remember his sister and wife from each other, and you're telling me THIS is the guy America wanted? Even more so than Obama?

Yeah, there's being shady, and then there's THIS. And I can't respect any grown adult THIS F*CKING STUPID to still believe the election was 100% fair and untainted and that Biden won legitimately. We even had Democrats saying "Bernie or nobody" and mocking Biden hardcore for being a racist before he got the "nomination," after they f*cked over Bernie once again. So I am willing to bet more Democrats would've been willing to sit out voting at all than to support a guy who wasn't "woke-approved" and is literally everything they claimed Trump to be (racist, sexist, rude, mentally ill, senile, etc), but in real life.

In other words, NOBODY voted for Joe Biden. Nobody.

[KimmyKimmy]

Yes, I believe Trump won in 2020.

The same people who told you he lost to Sleepy Joe, are the same people who stood in front of burning buildings, and told you it was a peaceful protest.

But the left will tell you that Joe won legitimately. OK, so the Democrats really chose Dementia Joe over Tulsi, Andrew and Bernie? Is this what they'd have you believe? Are you fucking kidding me? And NO ONE wanted Kamala, but... now you have her. But the left thinks this is all real?

If I was a Bernie supporter, I'd vote for Trump and blast it out on social media. But... the Bernie people just hang their heads and accept that the dumbest president in history beat out their guy, and, and just go with the flow like good little sheep.

[NerdyAndTall]

Don't like biden either but trump for lack of a better word was just a drama queen which divided Republicans as well as everyone else obviously

[ElizaPam]

He could've kept his mouth shut more but America was the best it’s been in my 26 years and now it’s gone to shit in just a few months

[NerdyAndTall]

Really wasn't, great ideas but he was very much learning on the job and got reeled into appealing to just deep Republicans

[KimmyKimmy]

Learning on the job? Why would anyone in their right mind want a politician to run the country?

[NerdyAndTall]

Because it's their job

[KimmyKimmy]

It's kind of funny how a businessman beat out around 16 politicians in the primaries.

I'm sure you're well aware that a very experienced politician, Nancy Pelosi, told the public that "if you want to know what's in this bill, you have to vote for it first, and then we'll tell you what you voted for."

[MCheetah]

@NerdyAndTall
No. The mainstream media did that. And they continue to divide everyone today.

[Sabretooth]

this country went to shit when Trump took office... or, he revealed how shitty things were. i've seen nothing but hate.

[NerdyAndTall]

media played a part but trump was a big part of it, the premise of a guy who isn't a politician being a politician was one of the reasons i voted for him along some of his policies and severely disliking Hillary, over the 4 years he very much became a politician and one who catered to hardcore republicans, in doing so making a clear divide by starting an us vs them "war"

[NerdyAndTall]

as far as him winning im sure there was some foul play but he's also turned a lot of republicans away with his catering and his antics

[NamerOfStars]

I don't know how so many people don't understand this. The popular vote does NOT DETERMINE THE PRESIDENCY. It DOESN'T MATTER if more people voted for Trump; the state electors (who are, with a few exceptions, not legally bound to the votes of the people) are. And a majority of them voted for Biden, so he won- fair and square.

Here's a fun game you can play: ask your grandparents (or anyone of a similar age) which would be a harder sell: traveling back to 1955 and telling people who the president would be in thirty years, or traveling back to 1987, and telling people who the president would be in thirty years.

[ohshee]

Doesn't really matter because you felt the president at the moment the sad part about the whole thing is Trump had an opportunity to be the greatest president ever and he blew it he got caught up in all the bullshit and he blew it

It right now I feel bad for Trump because after his presidency he built a library most ex-president's do this but I feel bad because Trump's Library just burnt down and Trump was overheard saying did he really feels bad because all his really nice books have been lost destroyed. And he said what hurt him the most was we're five books that he was only finished half way and he was so upset that he lost not one but all of his coloring books

[exitseven]

So many people came forward to testify and video evidence and truckloads of ballots disappear and magically turn up with all of them marked for Biden and no down ticket candidates were voted for, ballots that were not folded and ballots run through the voting machine more than once. In some districts there were more ballots counted than there were registered voters. And just by coincidence all of thee things happened in swing states. Biden either cheated or is the luckiest guy in the world.
If the FBI investigated all the abnormalities like they tracked down every single person that was in DC on Jan 6th, the riot at the Capitol never would have happened.
Statistical abnormalities alone made me believe the election was stolen.

[Massageman]

And not just COVID. This is one time Trump's uppity nature did NOT help him.
The liberal brain-trust that came up with this obvious scam used his bravado to their advantage.
' Trump'll call it a 'fake', and we KNOW it is, but since HE said it, there'll be enough of our peeps who think he's just blowing smoke that the sheeple won't believe anything that "far-fetched". The old "truth is stranger than fiction" mold, except in this case, the crafted fiction became the truth, but that truth was so far out there that people didn't believe it.

[Red_Arrow]

The votes were counted and Biden won. Trump complained so the votes were recounted. Biden still won. Trump tried to get the courts to overthrow the results of the election and they basically told him to get lost. Over and over! Only morons cannot get it! America is sick of those morons, including you. America is sick of Republicans. Even many Republicans are sick of the Republicans. If you do not want to be intelligent, then keep being an idiot!

[Anonymous]

I don't know, there was proven impropriety, but was it enough to sway things? Do difficult to determine. But more importantly, unless there's some smoking gun thing that comes up everyone should just let it go. Focus on policy and seats on local and state level, get grassroots to work their way up to the federal level. Because Trump's term taught us that everything can be resisted by a government working against it's leader. If you want change argue less about the past elections and focus on the future ones, get all those corrupt uni-party members out of there. Then you can reject all the trash Biden policies and reinstate all the good policies he got rid of.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

It’s impossible to say for sure but I don’t believe Biden won; especially by the numbers the democrats claim. There are way too many issues with this election to justify not having voter ID mandates, in person voting only, and voter competency testing in any future election.

[Red_Arrow]

In person voting only... so you are against the military being allowed to vote.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@Red_Arrow We don't legislate to the exception. Of course the military should get options that work for them, but not the general public. But you knew that was going to be the answer because you don't actually care, you just want to try to argue against a point nobody is making.

[Red_Arrow]

I wanted to argue against not allowing absentee voting, a point YOU were making. Also "voter competency testing. could be adjusted to prevent any number of things we accept as normal, but the group in power could use to disqualify the "other" group. Easy to see people who claim that Biden did not win when he obviously did creating rules to make things appear the opposite, such as the BS you and your like are feeding America. There are always fools who will believe the unbelievable, so you keep pushing it.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@Red_Arrow Whatever you wanna believe dude. I don't think most people in the US should have the right to vote because most people have no idea what they're voting on. You should be able to earn the right to vote but it would have to be a right you earn each election. Do I think we should be allowing everyone to vote by mail in ballot? No. Do I think all military (active duty or vet) should be allowed to vote every election? No. Do I think those that have proven themselves competent on the issues being put up for vote in this cycle should be allowed to vote? Absolutely. Being in the military and being alive should not give you the right to have control to make decisions over everyone else in the country especially if you don't know what the hell you're voting on and just doing what your peer group wants you to do.

Do I think you should be able to vote? Abso-fucking-lutely not.

[Red_Arrow]

Should I be allowed to vote? I have served in many volunteer positions helping others such as the Red Cross and various educational groups. I have studied all issues I vote on. I served 20 years of active duty in the military and also several years of Reserve duty. I KNOW I have earned the right to vote. What the hell have YOU done for America?

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@Red_Arrow already answered this. Stop wasting your time.

[Red_Arrow]

Wrong asshole. I said I earned the right and by serving my country and you have done nothing but bring hate to it. Time for you to see what an ass you are!

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@Red_Arrow you didn’t earn shit idiot. You could have watched every member of your family and friends die at your side in war, lost all 4 limbs, and I still wouldn’t say you have the competency required to vote. Service does not guarantee citizenship asshole.

[Red_Arrow]

I fought for this country and that certainly does earn a person the right to vote in his country. You did nothing and you are the one who has not earned anything. And with the way you put down people who have done things for their country, you should be thrown out! And you don't have the competency to hold the door open for people who did! Just keep licking your own ass and thinking you are hot shit!

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@Red_Arrow no, you fought for this country, earned a paycheck, got educational funding, and for some reason you’re still an idiot.

I bet you bitch about McDonald’s not having a vet discount too, don’t you, dipshit?

[Red_Arrow]

After all the recounts and court cases that support the FACT that Biden won, you cannot understand that. Currently those who think like you are attempting to change voting laws and moving district boundaries, attempting to block out as much of the people of color from being able to vote. You don't see the January 6th attack on our Capitol as anything but peaceful tourists. In other words, you don't have the brain power to make rational choices. You are the idiot! Think what you like with what little brain power you have, but I am done with this discussion.

[DeltaCharlieEcho]

@Red_Arrow lol Arizona’s audit disagrees with that statement in full just as the upcoming court cases against the company that made our voting machines will. But it doesn’t matter to ma because I don’t vote because I refuse to be governed by people like you. Voting only ensures that you will be governed by your inferiors and that you accept that position.

[slatyb]

Right, and all those Republican election officials in Arizona and Georgia are in on it the conspiracy. Trump lost bigly. But have no fear, soon votes won’t be counted in states with Republican legislatures.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

see this?

This is you now

[FunkyMonkee]

No two ways about it!! Everybody with a working brain KNOWS Joe stole it!! I'd be willing to bet Hitlary was mostly responsible for it!

[_乃尺OЩ刀_TITI]

copium overdose is not a joke

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

I never thought I'd be at risk of a Hopium overdose over a centrist Democrat winning LOL

[Brett18]

I wouldn't say he won. But I would say there was 100% a ton of voter fraud and a lot of sketchy stuff going on.

But realistically, we'll never know for sure who should have actually won

[OddBeMe]

It’s not the media and elites who chose. Elected officials- including Republicans- validated the official vote.

Jesus Christ let this go.

[ElizaPam]

The media chooses the president when they all gang up on him and spread lies for 4 years straight

[OddBeMe]

You’re talking about Obama?

[Snakeyes7]

I can't say for sure yet. I think there is evidence, but proof is yet to be seen but the courts never took the case up so unless they do, we may never get a full confirmation.

[Browneye57]

Well, that's some un-PC happy horseshit isn't it? True enough though. ;)

[DWornock]

Not that it matters, but no doubt Trump had the votes to win.

[Anonymous]

A. Back in 2017, dems and libs were saying they will do anything to defeat Trump. And when the Impeachment scam failed, they turned to Covid and it worked. Biden is a fucking disaster.

[Sabretooth]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Cq6A9uytB7U

Nothing more needs to be said.

[Anonymous]

no they cheated thats why they want to let so many illegals in and have them have voter rights.

[Agape93]

Nope, I'm not wholly retarded.

[Jouth]

Nope you're a dumb dumb