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"the grand majority of our social justice and legal system are still men? Wouldn't it make more sense to blame them selves than to blame the women they have so recently included?"
so in other words just because the majority of the folks who run the justice system are men it means that men are at fault for society being unfair to us?
I like to point out that there are far more women in the porn industry than there are men, does this justify the fact that we men can assume that all women are whores at heart?
Apparently to you it does with that flawed logic
My logic is based on generalization, no different than yours so you better not say that yours isn’t flawed now
I’m speaking from my own experience, and I’m not the only one
What experience are you talking about?
Honestly all you have to do is scroll through and look at some of the comments on here. You call out a few guys on their behavior and all they come flocking in.
The fuck are you talking about. All people do is blame men. Only recently have they even dared crack open the can of worms that is looking at women's part in the social disaster that is modern society. And let me correct your gender studies professor. We did not live in a patriarchy. Yes in the past men had all the power but we also had all the responsibility. And our society was structured around the protection and provision of women and children.
Whats mostly wrong in modern society is that women have been given power, but have 0 responsibility for thier actions.
Women are incapable of understanding that.
Right? These men can't win. Instead of looking at themselves they point their finger at the women.
They blame women for everything these days, even for a rainy day.
For them a woman is either a modern career girl, who makes her own money (and they call her feminist or whatever) or an old fashioned traditional gold digger housewife.
They hate women.
It's no wonder why many women turn into lesbians.
I don't have an issue with myself women are the issue they want equality but special treatment and dumb men like you make that possible.
Well that didn't take long. One of these misogynistic losers just showed up 😂
@Hallo626262 kiddo you're 22 years old, and while you are entitled to your opinion. What I would like to know is why you hate women so much? Mommy issues? Rejected one too many times? Got burned once so now an entire gender is out to get you?
No it did not lol but he does help prove my point
Caution Subarugirl. You are giving these losers what they're after.
Facts I’m a traditional woman , but I have my own money ! I still get blamed when I have standards
I'm pretty sure I could get your girlfriend.
It’s a win for lose situation even when not trying ! I see why women are ALONE and I have no legitimate dating experiences with men at all at 33!
@Subarugirl i don't hate women i hate women who are sexist shitheads like yourself. I hate the justice system which discriminates me because of my gender, i hate having less rights then a women. You wouldn't understand since you were never discriminated in any way. Also you don't care about men for some reason only women's rights matter to you. You don't even understand the extreme privelege you have in dating.
Anonymous yes ! I explored with women , but had a curiosity with men - I’m regretting my choice for even stepping out to try with men. I’m better off hiding again 🙈
If this what’s happening wtf am I up against- I’m OUT
@Hallo626262 the social justice system is made of mostly men... I am not sexist nor am I a feminist. You want to complain about inequality. Take a look into the past? Did you know that women couldn't even get a credit card with out her husbands permission until 1970? Even today women don't even have full bodily autonomy? What have you done to try an fix the inequality other than whining about how much of a victim you are?
I'm sorry inequality in dating? Is this what this is all about? You're butt hurt because you can't get a girlfriend?
@kc_4308 So that means you make your ownkney but still demand the men to pay for you?
Nope I don’t expect men to do anything / thus why I’m single @Hallo626262
Will remain single as I have been over 7 years
70 years ago men were dying in wars they had no stake in to save their women and fellow men.
Hardly a "patriarchal society" for all men.
Better idea: How about we just acknowledge that both genders do and always have had horrific conditions and responsibilities tied to them and are fighting their own wars and we should just try and be empathetic to everyone?
A lot of women are complicit. Both genders uphold a toxic system. Check out Dworkin’s book “Right Wing Women”….
We can talk a lot about women who are “more masculine” than men. Who embrace toxic masculinity even as they criticize it.
bel hooks talks about this exactly in Outlaw Culture. She tells stories she heard from men who embraced a pro female outlook who regularly get shut down and shut out by women whose erotic and pair bonding definitions are still informed by “macho / machista” BS. Nobody gets a free pass here.
It's human nature to find scapegoats if your life has gone the way you wanted it to or you haven't attained what you wished. In this case a lot of guys have singled out women for some reason.
Myself, I've had women use me, steal from me, lie to me, reject me, and not be what they pretended to be when I first met them. That's life on planet earth. Every man and every woman has had bad experiences with the opposite sex. There's women that aren't worth a buffalo nickel of my time, but there's also women I would have charged through a wall to impress and protect. And I can tell you that I've had more positive experiences with women than negative. Not just sexually or romantically either. I'm very fond of women. I find them to be great company even if we're just friends. That's my take.
Men stopped respecting women, and women stopped respecting men. Long ago. That's what I think it is. Learn to be nice to each other, people. And please stop generalising.
With how things are now, I'm thinking this should be taught in school. Some of us obviously have a habit of going for the cool and easy stuff when given the option to choose.
I so appreciate and feel encouraged by your opinion especially that you're young adult. I agree 100% Stay positive
gangster rap calling women bitches all the time did not help and now what do we have art imitates life or is it the other way around
So I read all the comments here... geez. Such hate going on. Nobody is perfect. Ignore/Avoid people that are unpleasant to be around. Complaining about it will get you nowhere. Some people are pathetic for many reasons.
Modern women? Everyone has their own preference on the perfect woman in their eyes so saying how a "modern" woman should be will be different person to person. Every man has different tastes for what they want their woman to be like. Complaining about a man or woman not doing a typical role or being a certain way can go too far.
This site is crazy how many gender war questions there are.
It's easier to throw blame than look inward. Both men and women need to reflect on their own actions and stop being so damn toxic.
Agreed
You might be romanticizing the men of the passed lmao. They used to BEAT women, not slap or yell at, BEAT. Had it not been for those men makeup wouldn't be half as popular.
As for men today, different strokes for different folks. Single moms raised sons to act like sons, not to act like the men they wanted when they were young and dating. Some men can't understand the disconnect and act like little crybabies because the world isn't what they thought I'd be and women don't actually care about loyalty, kindness, etc as much as they'd like to believe.
You ask why we complain, but never look at our side of the story once.
We're sick of having to tell our side of the story, because every time we do, the modern woman throws water on it and claims we're weak and tells us to suck it up. But god forbid the tables be reversed.
Until you understand our side of the story and decide to meet us halfway, don't expect us to do anything for you.
None of us live to please you. And a lot of men are going their own way for some damn good reasons.
More or less, you need to hear men's concerns and see if they matter to you, for example, when men face cases of domestic violence, they are more likely to be shunned and not treated seriously, the reasons for this are debatable, what's your point of view in this? I don't think this is "pathetic", another common complaint I hear is how women have advantages in divorce cases for child custody and money, I don't know much about this, but I refrain from making any derogatory comments about something I don't know. But there are some things I find ridiculous, of course.
Methinks you need to be more specific in your post.
But of course, blaming "modern" women seem silly, I agree.
I can understand you but we still can't generalize and blame all men, otherwise there is no difference between us and the incels who blame all modern women for their personal problems
Gag has many guys who blame or blamed modern women for almost everything and trashtalked women but they dont represent all men and bad people exist on both sides.
There was a question about modern women and the replies shocked me since so many guys blamed women and trashtalked women. Women ain't perfect but we can't be the reason for all of your problems. Since then i try to stay away from gag. Great guys on gag exist too but for some reason gag become the new home for many incels. Just block them. I have seeen many great guys on gag. I just ignore the new wave of gag incels and focuse my time on nice people on gag.
I never said all. There are great guys on here, but there is also a surprising number of guys who aren’t.
I can understand. Gag is new home For incels. This was not the case few years ago. Try to block or ignore them. You can't discuss with them. I tried and as a result i get insulted, attacked etc by them. Some of them even harrassed by creating fake accounts of me etc
I agre with you
Isn't it just fantastic how some men will share examples of women doing things they don't like, then act like the whole of woman kind are doing those things? Of course it isn't. I'd be happy if some of them would just quit generalizing.
I'm just playing the same game they're playing to see how they like it.
I'm one of those who likes to fight fire with fire.
Facts ^^ playing tit for tat will not result in a good outcome I’m tired of the blame game
You know what ironic tho? The asker generalizing about men and how come you don't really care about? So how is it any different if a girl is generalizing about guys and guys generalizing about girls?
@Aiko_E_Lara fair enough. You do have a point
It is believed, by the simpering types of men, that to belittle themselves is to garner sympathy from the females, thus entitling them to the badonkadonk, but, what the Simps fail to recognize is, that not only do women speak a different language than men but also, the aggressor that she seeks is going to not only call her out on her shit, but also demand his own level of respect
Women always had social power before the vote was even a thing.
The actual "patriarchy" isn't what you think it's, it's a responsibility, not a privilege, considering the sheer amount of kings who didn't wanted to be kings and left administration wholly to officials. (ps: way more than 50%)
Even today, most people don't want leadership positions because those aren't even close to the best, most comfortable positions.
Men don't come with the sex ingroup bias that women come with, which is why historically men didn't rule for the good of men, but mostly for the safety and prosperity of women, which is why laws designed to protect workers first arose to protect women and children.
And that's one of the reasons why women hate female bosses. Women will first legislate the max possible privilege to women and then the max possible privilege to themselves, men will do the first and then the max privilege to their "ingroup".
These are the type of women that bitch and complain but say a guy is too short for her, full of shit. "Men are so pathetic in this day and age, but I don't like short men and i'm only attracted to tall men. Short men are always so insecure and they have too many issues. Tall men are much better because I want protection and want to have tall kids. Oh did I forgot to mention I LOVE tall men?"
Honey, my husband is shorter than I am so your point is moot.
No its not. You're in the minority of women taller than men, most women don't want guys shorter than them or even short guys themselves. Living in the USA as a 5'4 guy, more than half of women will reject me for my height. Why? Simply by the fact that i'm not taller than them. Not only that, but women love to label guys too. You guys like to call men incels, creeps, losers, and have the ability to cherry pick and reject guys at your leisure. Men don't have that privilege. If we say something about women its like a horde of women comes running at us calling us out, but women can say w/e shit they want about guys
Oh really? have you not looked through the comment section? If you don't think that I am being torn into by a couple dozen guys than you are delusional. Let me ask you this, do you find every body type and woman attractive? No, neither does anyone else. Not everyone finds me attractive because I am so tall and you don't hear me whining about it. Sounds like you are insecure about your height and have a bit of a height complex. Men have the ability to chose just as much as women do. I would just say that in a lot of circumstances women just have a higher standard when it comes to choosing a romantic partner.
You are saying modern men are pathetic and responsible for the actions of previous generations? I'm not responsible for the sins of my father, and I'll never pretend to be. Also, pathetic is a pretty general term that can't be answered without knowing what you mean specifically by pathetic.
It really depends on what you mean by pathetic, I mean, you could mean it to imply he's got no sexual willpower, no sense of self, you could mean it as away of masking your own frustrations with men being assholes ti you, by blaming them for the thing YOU have the most power over, that also dictates to us guys, just how the relationships going to go... or, you COULD be just Genuinely frustrated with the fact that men are naturally polyamorous lying cheats. Who will stop at nothing to get ALL THE VAGINA THEY CAN GET!! AT ALL TIMES!!! ALL FREAKING DAY LONG if possible for most men!
In this day and age? Don't you mean this is how men have always been?
The people you talk of are the ones who wish we went back to there golden era were women couldn't vote, couldn't own property, just be a maid, and have limited free will. Because there still men like the old days.