Why are so many men in this day and age so pathetic?

Question

I hear men constantly complain about "modern" women and how they have ruined everything but no one talks about holding men responsible for their part in the social climate? After all 70 years ago we lived in a patriarchal society and the grand majority of our social justice and legal system are still men? Wouldn't it make more sense to blame them selves than to blame the women they have so recently included? Just a thought.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Why are todays men so "pathetic"? That's an odd question coming from a modern woman your age.

Today's men did not "so recently include" women. Today's men had nothing to do with what happened 70 years ago, and neither did you, so I'm not sure what any of that has to do with the pathetic state of affairs with gender relations today. But you, as a modern woman, have everything to do with it.

I'm going to sum it up for you as succinctly as I can. Women, not men, have changed the rules of dating and gender relations over the last 40 - 50 years. Women essentially have told men how it's going to be and didn't ask our opinion on the matter. And now that the rules are different the game is much less appealing to men, and more and more are opting out entirely. I'm not talking about MGTOW, although that is certainly part of it. I'm referring to the fact that marriage and committed relationships are no longer appealing to many/most men. Women are no longer the prize they once were because they don't offer the same benefits to men in a relationship or marriage now than women of the past. And at the same time they have made marriage and relationships very risky and costly to men, to the point where men are just saying no in record numbers. Women have essentially reduced their value to men to little more than sex, and sex can be easily had outside of marriage and committed relationships, so why the fuck would a man with any brains go through the pain, drama and risk of marriage when he can get the only real benefits without all of that.

This is a problem TODAY'S WOMEN (you) have created for all of us, and that's why today's men are "so pathetic" (aka disgusted and disappointed with modern women and what they have created for all of us).

And by the way, the problem is not our legal system, but rather that vast majority of married women who are more than happy to work that system and take full advantage of the men they divorce (women file the "grand majority" of divorces). Is that what you're going to do to your husband when he discovers you are not sexually compatible and there's nothing he can do to change that, and nothing more you are able to offer him?

MrOracle · Accepted Answer

You don't need to listen to men - go talk to "modern, feminist women" who are between 35-55 and see if they are in a successful relationship, and see if they are happy with their lives, especially in the area of relationships.

https://greatergood. berkeley. edu/article/item/is_there_a_happiness_gender_gap
A number of studies have shown that women's happiness has FALLEN since Third Wave Feminism in the 60s, and continues to decline. This despite women being more educated than men and often earning higher salaries than men. This isn't "incels" saying this, it's a study done by UC Berkeley, as pro-feminist an institution as it comes.

Women are trading husbands and children for careers, and while that is fun and exciting in their 20s, most realize by their mid-30s that they are unfulfilled - but by then, it's too late to change course. Men are largely not involved in any of these decisions - women are choosing this path - mostly because of feminist influence from their mothers and from society overall. And it isn't satisfying in the long run. You can find thousands of videos on YouTube of middle-aged women who came to this same conclusion.

The idea that "only beta males and incels" are talking about this is provably false.

Of course, there are exceptions. In any generalization, there will be. But this is the an issue that impacts a large number of women. Note too that "traditional women" report far higher happiness and satisfaction with their lives. Again, that comes from studies from institutions that didn't expect to see that result.

I personally don't care what any of you do - it's not going to affect me any. But before you dismiss what I say, talk to women who are on the other side of the situation - who followed the path of the modern woman, and see how that worked out for them.

In the end, it is outcomes that matter, and like it or not, women's opportunity to choose a life path is largely limited to her late teens and 20s. After that, her options are far more limited. That also cannot be blamed on men.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

I love how all these men are uncomfortable and offended even though you said so many and not all. Looking at the replies is enough to see why and who is pathetic. They (the pathetic men) feel a sense of entitlement to women, are getting mad that they can't get a woman, and see how women are more independent. It's making them worry.
Hopefully soon all men will treat all women as equals, women will treat them the same, and people can actually form healthy relationships, respect each other, and stop acting like it's male against female. Some people are just so hateful for no reason and it's sad.

kc_4308 · Accepted Answer

I’m not modern and I refuse to deal with the average American man. Completely toxic , bitter , and angry all the time at women. Most to all men nowadays don’t want marriage anymore or commitment. Waste of time by the way especially for a woman like me whose not in the dating world and haven’t in a decade. Turned off by men of today.

Anonymous · Answer

The only issues i lay squarely at women's feet, Specifically feminists feet are things that the National Organization For Women (NOW, The largest feminist lobbying group in the US) Do to make things harder for men to get help and the like.. For example, they fought and still fight against men being included in rape statistics, citing men simply cannot be raped. The FBI definition does not include made to penetrate, effectively making it so men cannot be raped. Or refusing to include men in domestic violence statistics, when 1 in 7 men and 1 in 4 women have experienced intimate partner abuse and violence, Meaning its not a gendered issue. Feminists own Duluth model (https://www.theduluthmodel.org/) which is used in 100% of all police departments in the country make it so regardless of who is hurt, who is called, who is the aggressor in DV cases, the man goes to jail and is charged. Reason for this, The domestic violence industry is a multi billion dollar industry, and if they had to admit men are victims too all of that support would have to be split, Because currently there is only support for women.. Or Feminist organizations standing against equal shared parenting between men and women. Every time there is an equal shared parenting bill before governments, Feminists come out in droves to stand against it, My own state is a good example of this.. On the day the vote was supposed to happen, They protested, they came in and gave boo hoo sob stories about how men are bad, and shouldn't be part of the kids lives when divorce happens. and yet single fathers are the highest of all of the suicide rates among males. All we want is equal standing when it comes to Domestic violence, Rape, Sex abuse, and parenting, But feminists stand against all of it. You might not, But you cannot discount my personal lived experiences.

And i blame women for none of this, I blame the feminists that actively fight against us.

RealMarek · Answer

First, neither the patriarchal past nor the current percentage of men in elite positions do anything for the vast majority of men who are not in elite positions.

Second, during times of civilizational decline—and the West is showing all the signs of decline despite its technological productivity and its West-centric view of history as a story of eternal progress—the incidence of evolutionarily maladaptive behavior increases in both sexes and it becomes more difficult to form stable relationships. Consider the prevalence of emotional disorders, poor physical health (including rapidly declining testosterone levels in young Western men), extended adolescence, porn/video game/social media addictions, and the ratcheting up of economic pressures (a declining median standard of living, declining job security, the rise of credentialism requiring longer time spent in what are now outrageously expensive colleges), etc. It’s rough out there. As a result, people often have bad experiences with relationships and it is easy to fall into the trap of becoming cynical. When cynical or frustrated, it is easy to blame others or even a whole group instead of making the best of one’s circumstances and trying to improve oneself.

SunnyFlorida · Answer

I'm going to blame a third party, actually an invention. The creation and availability of reliable birth control has allowed women to experience a new level of sexual freedom. Women can have sex with multiple partners with little fear of having offspring from these partners. In the past, women had to worry about getting pregnant from any potential sexual contact with a man. This has allowed women to make bad choices and lots of bad choices, resulting in lots of single mothers.
Half of the babies were boys, so these single mothers were teaching these boys to be "nice" to attract the nice girls. But that' is not how the world works, these "nice" boys grow up to be "pathetic men" as @Subarugirl puts it.
These nice boys grow up in a world dominated by women; their mothers, the elementary school teachers are mostly women. These boys are taught to be "nice." But being "nice" does not work in the real world in the courtship of women.
Women need a man who is little rough on the edges, who can physically pick her up and carry her to the bedroom for some rough, (consensual) animalistic sex.

Lionman95 · Answer

Things are changing and so are men. People wanted guys to speak more often about their feelings with the result that many guys start complaining that times are changing. Because of feminism and other movements societies are changing while some expectations stay the same. Some guys are overwhelmed by the realization that they can't keep on living the way they lived and they can't go back in time so they start blame shifting.
To be fair I had been guilty of that too for some time. It's easier to sit down and say because women are changing and society with all its systems are changing it's a female fault that things aren't working out for me. It's easy and comforting to point that one isn't the one to blame.
Until one day the realization hits in that women aren't your problem but instead you're your own problem.
Many guys nowadays don't have a rolemodel or idea of masculinity they follow. They are probably not settled in their personality and don't know who they are and what they wanna be known for.
In my case my father isn't a role model because he came from a completely different time and age (he's nearly 40 years older than me). In school most of teachers were females with a clear often times contradicting picture of masculinity. So because we guys need more time nowadays to get to know who we are and what we want plus what's expected of us, many of us seem pathetic.

Friendlybro79 · Answer

People complain about everything. I think this question is more of a way for you to vent then to expect an answer, which by the way, can't be answered. Why does anyone complain about anything?

Also I'm not sure what specifically you're upset about. You've stated very vague things. I can't speak to what it's like being a woman in today's social climate, and I certainly don't think things are exactly equal at times either, but nothing is exactly equal. Men aren't perfect and neither are women.

How about finding ways to associate with better people? Also if by men today, you're referring to the sample you get here on this site, you're going to be frustrated.

As a guy I'd like to be none of the things you're referring to, and I suspect there's more like me too. I feel like many men could make the exact opposite complaint to what you're making right now which leads me to this :

WE NEED TO GET ALONG.

Think about what you said and focus your energy around the other percentage of men which are the men that respect a modern woman and depend on her as she should of him. Or you can just be angry about a bunch of assholes that you're giving your attention to.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

Yes and no. First lets address this "Wouldn't it make more sense to blame them selves..." unlike women we dont think this way. I as a man never put forth this global situation I am in. Therefore its not my fault at all. Nor do i care who particularly put it forth because... here I am and it exists. I focus on how do I win and achieve what I want in spite of how good or bad it is. This is a masculine mind set which i dont think you understand.

"I hear men constantly complain about "modern" women and how they have ruined everything..." the reason is women are generally the prize that men want that motivated us to be great. When the prize no longer exists there is no reason to work for the prize. Get it? Playing video games, smoking pot, and just having porn or casual sex is a pretty easy life. Why is a man going to get up and bust his ass and do difficult things and deny himself certain pleasures for no reward? Makes no sense. Would you work for no paycheck? 😂

That being said parents raise the kids this way. Parents tell their daughters "its ok to have sex" and they turn to sluts. Parents let their sons play video games all day and say "gee maybe he will become a professional video gamer... kids these days."

Coming back around i think its each persons fault for their own actions at the end of the day and that leaves most of the blame on women. Men are just reacting to whats in front of them. When you're in a room full of skanks you're going to get your dick sucked. If you're in a room full of girls waiting for marriage to an exceptional man your going to leave and bust your ass to be a great man and then come back and get your prize. Its that simple.

Oigit · Answer

I honestly couldn't tell you. I disconnected from society a few years ago. Debates such as the men vs women are a good example of why. People of both sides of the debate refuse to see that the problem isn't black and white. There is a lot of grey area and even when they are looking right at it, they refuse to see it. There is also millions of miles of common ground. Yet people refuse to see it. Even when both sides of the debate are standing on it. Both sides of many debates need to stop the right fighting and look past the fingers they are pointing. Because many issues would be fixed if they did.

ZackBan · Answer

You literally answered your own question.

Because women today all think like you and try to demonize men over every single thing for no reason. And whenever a man stands up for himself he gets attacked even more.

I am a man and you just called me pathetic after I've been working my whole life to make something of myself. Do you expect me to fold and say "you're right I'm pathetic and men are bad just for being born men" think again my dear.

Men are responsible for "climat change" perhaps but men have also built this world you live in the internet you use to disrespect them they built the phone you are carrying a man made it so is your car your house your street, literally 90% of our world was built by men the other 10% were brilliant women who didn't waste time playing the victim and vilifying others and actually got off their asses and created things.

NicoletteXO · Answer

Look, you're observation is correct. However, it won't do you any favours to speak about it. The reality is, if the man you are speaking to is already pathetic, he's not about to change by you pointing it out. And if the man you are speaking to is not pathetic, he likely won't be able to empathize with what you're saying, so will feel turned off by the whole conversation and believe the problem is with you. I understand that what you're actually saying is that you'd like accountability from men - but the best way to get that is with a bit more sensitivity. Most humans do not respond well to slurs - even if they point to something accurate.

Kaamraj · Answer

If this question is regarding dating then most of it is women's fault, because women are the gatekeepers of dating and sex, whereas men are the gatekeepers of dating and ultimately marriage. Men are upset and frustrated because in the recent digital sexual market place (social media and dating apps) they are made more and more invisible. And this is understandable as in the early years women have far more sexual value than men. The man who are feeling that way should realize that as men the burden of performance and proof is on them, so no one cares about their feelings until and unless they take action to better themselves. Now the men who realize this and focus on their path and purpose; academics, business, arts, etc. and achieve something later on in life, well the sexual value is inverted and then it's the men who hold more value so can dictate the terms.

It has been like this for hundreds of thousands of years but is most pronounced now thanks to technology.

Rachelspiks · Answer

A very good question, one that unfortunately is hardly ever asked. The "men" who constantly bitch about how degenerate (in their narrow-minded view) modern women are, tend to be pathetic little boys in their late teens and twenties that no girl or woman with any amount of self-respect and intelligence would ever go anywhere near. They are entitled, whiny losers who will never amount to anything because they can't handle females who actually know what they want and are willing to make the effort to get it.

devilman666 · Answer

Yeah fam, it's men's fault because the weak and pathetic who fathered us decided to allow women the right to work, vote, own property, and much more. We should go back to the days of oppressing women and forcing them to be loyal house wives. Heck, while we're at it why don't we bring back the laws that allowed men to rape a virgin and force her into marriage? I'd willingly fight a war if it meant I got to take a bride from among the countries surviving women. (Sarcasm)

NathanDavis · Answer

because they're not actually men... but a bunch of inadequate mitches who know, do have this internet outlet to keep mitching non-stop and vent their pathetic-ness, as you pointed it out well

and by the way... all this mitching is not so new, and not exclusive to our times and age... even back in the 1600's there was literature that would point out this, specifically... "stubborn man"

EmbraceThePain · Answer

I’m not sure you have history right.

Yes, it was majority men back in the day, but that doesn’t mean it was bad for women.

In some respects yes

But guess what? It was bad for men as well.

Women didn’t get drafted to fight WWI & WWII

Patriarchal society benefiting men there huh? Nope

So, keep choosing points in history that you want to prove your point. It’s not right.

The key is, men & women had to work together in society. It was bad for everyone way back when, no matter if you were a man or woman. If you were a woman you had your own unique problems, but if you were a man you also had your own set of unique problems.

Everyone essentially suffered though, depending on how far back you want to go.

Celtero · Answer

Ah yes! It's always men's fault.
I mean... women make up the majority of the US population, but women are like trees and stones, it's in their nature to just have no impact whatsoever in society, they're the ultimate passive entity! It's not like women decide entire elections in which men pay the price for. It's not like men are only in more positions of power because women are reluctant to get off their fat ass and try to get in these positions of power, it's not like grossly incompetent women win offices when they do finally run. It's not like women whine 30x the amount men do while having a higher quality of life. You're right! Your gender is incapable of doing anything wrong under any circumstance, and men are the cause of everything bad in the world, including natural disasters and bad luck.

Qdbrown · Answer

Each new generation is a little worse than the one before it because we have been too peaceful, for too long. Wars have a way to wield men, and most of what we have been fighting for the last 70 years is not a real war. Not the type you have to conscript for survival.

Men are so weak now, many younger women see lesbian relationships more satisfying, and women tend to hate each other deep down. And many of these younger boys around teenage ages are so pathetic, I don't think we can use the word wimp to describe it. More than 40 percent of men under 30 have never had sex with another person.

Men could take control and drive a very serious masculine energy again. They could put women back into their homes and end women's rights just as fast. But not until we get invaded and our new overlord wills it. I would imagine of they attack soon, it will be relatively easy to conquer the U. S. in a couple of months.

ZDoes · Answer

Good question, I'm curious though, there are examples of pathetic from men in the dating game. But from who's perspective? Lame from a woman's point of view or a man's? Because those will be different. Not making any kind of judgment here as to correct or incorrect, factual or otherwise. Just that both are valid viewpoints worthy of equal consideration.
As far the costs of manifest destiny and the I'll conceived notions we're currently attempting to navigate effectively into more sustainable options? We did the best we could with what we had available at the time. We are slow to change and or make corrections. We fear loosing control of the establishment... you would too, so please bear with us. We'll eventually get it.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

Men ought to be the leaders and gate keepers of their communities, homes and country, but somewhere down the road in Western civilization men decided to become weak, whiny, effeminate, sexually perverted, getting on all 4's and have women peg them with a toy etc.

Those type of conduct I mentioned above produces weak men in a nation.

Men in Western civilization especially among the youth just don't desire to be masculine nor strong men, all they desire to do is play video games, whine and moan, watch porn and masturbate all day and night long to porn, as a result you get little punks and man childs in their late teens and 20's and 30's too.

ohshee · Answer

I don't know of one woman that has ruined anything except for maybe a dinner and that was probably my fault because I was cooking LOL no anytime anybody blames anybody for anything it's bullshit just like feminist I can go off on that but why would I who cares there's always somebody trying to make a point and that's cool that's good because that's how change comes I do a lot of smart girls and I can't think of anything that I can remember where women get blamed for something I don't know I don't even know what that means and if I heard somebody saying something so stupid I would back the women's play anyway all I can say is when I mess up I will be the first person raise my hand and say fuck yes what I messed up

Adam1978 · Answer

So we are to be blaimed for giving you women the freedom to completely fuck up your lives and the majority does it all at ones. We have spent thousands of years in balance under your invented patriarchal society. Here is the thing men has been in power but they have taken care of women and children while doing so. When women got power they completely wrecked society, hate everything men does, hate each other and create madness for children. How is this mens fault. Take some fuck responsibility and show that women can actually lead otherwise return to the kitchen and raise the kids. Because that worked, what we have now doesn't.

CasaNorba · Answer

"the grand majority of our social justice and legal system are still men? Wouldn't it make more sense to blame them selves than to blame the women they have so recently included?"

so in other words just because the majority of the folks who run the justice system are men it means that men are at fault for society being unfair to us?

I like to point out that there are far more women in the porn industry than there are men, does this justify the fact that we men can assume that all women are whores at heart?

captain_voidwalker · Answer

The fuck are you talking about. All people do is blame men. Only recently have they even dared crack open the can of worms that is looking at women's part in the social disaster that is modern society. And let me correct your gender studies professor. We did not live in a patriarchy. Yes in the past men had all the power but we also had all the responsibility. And our society was structured around the protection and provision of women and children.
Whats mostly wrong in modern society is that women have been given power, but have 0 responsibility for thier actions.

Anonymous · Answer

Right? These men can't win. Instead of looking at themselves they point their finger at the women.
They blame women for everything these days, even for a rainy day.
For them a woman is either a modern career girl, who makes her own money (and they call her feminist or whatever) or an old fashioned traditional gold digger housewife.
They hate women.

InventorofWarp · Answer

70 years ago men were dying in wars they had no stake in to save their women and fellow men.
Hardly a "patriarchal society" for all men.

Better idea: How about we just acknowledge that both genders do and always have had horrific conditions and responsibilities tied to them and are fighting their own wars and we should just try and be empathetic to everyone?

Wester1967 · Answer

A lot of women are complicit. Both genders uphold a toxic system. Check out Dworkin’s book “Right Wing Women”….
We can talk a lot about women who are “more masculine” than men. Who embrace toxic masculinity even as they criticize it.

bel hooks talks about this exactly in Outlaw Culture. She tells stories she heard from men who embraced a pro female outlook who regularly get shut down and shut out by women whose erotic and pair bonding definitions are still informed by “macho / machista” BS. Nobody gets a free pass here.

JClone55 · Answer

It's human nature to find scapegoats if your life has gone the way you wanted it to or you haven't attained what you wished. In this case a lot of guys have singled out women for some reason.
Myself, I've had women use me, steal from me, lie to me, reject me, and not be what they pretended to be when I first met them. That's life on planet earth. Every man and every woman has had bad experiences with the opposite sex. There's women that aren't worth a buffalo nickel of my time, but there's also women I would have charged through a wall to impress and protect. And I can tell you that I've had more positive experiences with women than negative. Not just sexually or romantically either. I'm very fond of women. I find them to be great company even if we're just friends. That's my take.

PrettyIsTurquoise · Answer

Men stopped respecting women, and women stopped respecting men. Long ago. That's what I think it is. Learn to be nice to each other, people. And please stop generalising.

With how things are now, I'm thinking this should be taught in school. Some of us obviously have a habit of going for the cool and easy stuff when given the option to choose.

Hairylegs222 · Answer

So I read all the comments here... geez. Such hate going on. Nobody is perfect. Ignore/Avoid people that are unpleasant to be around. Complaining about it will get you nowhere. Some people are pathetic for many reasons.

Modern women? Everyone has their own preference on the perfect woman in their eyes so saying how a "modern" woman should be will be different person to person. Every man has different tastes for what they want their woman to be like. Complaining about a man or woman not doing a typical role or being a certain way can go too far.

This site is crazy how many gender war questions there are.

Ninani · Answer

It's easier to throw blame than look inward. Both men and women need to reflect on their own actions and stop being so damn toxic.

Hypnos0929 · Answer

You might be romanticizing the men of the passed lmao. They used to BEAT women, not slap or yell at, BEAT. Had it not been for those men makeup wouldn't be half as popular.
As for men today, different strokes for different folks. Single moms raised sons to act like sons, not to act like the men they wanted when they were young and dating. Some men can't understand the disconnect and act like little crybabies because the world isn't what they thought I'd be and women don't actually care about loyalty, kindness, etc as much as they'd like to believe.

NightHawk99 · Answer

You ask why we complain, but never look at our side of the story once.

We're sick of having to tell our side of the story, because every time we do, the modern woman throws water on it and claims we're weak and tells us to suck it up. But god forbid the tables be reversed.

Until you understand our side of the story and decide to meet us halfway, don't expect us to do anything for you.

None of us live to please you. And a lot of men are going their own way for some damn good reasons.

SupremeWarlord · Answer

More or less, you need to hear men's concerns and see if they matter to you, for example, when men face cases of domestic violence, they are more likely to be shunned and not treated seriously, the reasons for this are debatable, what's your point of view in this? I don't think this is "pathetic", another common complaint I hear is how women have advantages in divorce cases for child custody and money, I don't know much about this, but I refrain from making any derogatory comments about something I don't know. But there are some things I find ridiculous, of course.

Methinks you need to be more specific in your post.

Anonymous · Answer

I can understand you but we still can't generalize and blame all men, otherwise there is no difference between us and the incels who blame all modern women for their personal problems
Gag has many guys who blame or blamed modern women for almost everything and trashtalked women but they dont represent all men and bad people exist on both sides.
There was a question about modern women and the replies shocked me since so many guys blamed women and trashtalked women. Women ain't perfect but we can't be the reason for all of your problems. Since then i try to stay away from gag. Great guys on gag exist too but for some reason gag become the new home for many incels. Just block them. I have seeen many great guys on gag. I just ignore the new wave of gag incels and focuse my time on nice people on gag.

Uannoyme · Answer

Isn't it just fantastic how some men will share examples of women doing things they don't like, then act like the whole of woman kind are doing those things? Of course it isn't. I'd be happy if some of them would just quit generalizing.

janky1 · Answer

It is believed, by the simpering types of men, that to belittle themselves is to garner sympathy from the females, thus entitling them to the badonkadonk, but, what the Simps fail to recognize is, that not only do women speak a different language than men but also, the aggressor that she seeks is going to not only call her out on her shit, but also demand his own level of respect

anylolone · Answer

Women always had social power before the vote was even a thing.

The actual "patriarchy" isn't what you think it's, it's a responsibility, not a privilege, considering the sheer amount of kings who didn't wanted to be kings and left administration wholly to officials. (ps: way more than 50%)

Even today, most people don't want leadership positions because those aren't even close to the best, most comfortable positions.

Men don't come with the sex ingroup bias that women come with, which is why historically men didn't rule for the good of men, but mostly for the safety and prosperity of women, which is why laws designed to protect workers first arose to protect women and children.

And that's one of the reasons why women hate female bosses. Women will first legislate the max possible privilege to women and then the max possible privilege to themselves, men will do the first and then the max privilege to their "ingroup".

Cybermetal93 · Answer

These are the type of women that bitch and complain but say a guy is too short for her, full of shit. "Men are so pathetic in this day and age, but I don't like short men and i'm only attracted to tall men. Short men are always so insecure and they have too many issues. Tall men are much better because I want protection and want to have tall kids. Oh did I forgot to mention I LOVE tall men?"

Anonymous · Answer

Men are pathetic and always have been.

Since the dawn of time they have used their physical advantages (height, more muscular) to control women. They think they rule society and are the elite sex but fail to realise that they came out of a woman.

Men want to be mothered and then want a wife or girlfriend who will do the same. They also want you to raise their kids whilst working full time and look after them. Some of them can’t even be bothered to propose or get married to women who they reckon they want to spend forever with/have kids with

Their only purpose is to produce offspring to keep the population up. Nowadays there are a lot of single mothers who are able to raise kids on their own. If a man was there, the only difference would be disposable income so hardly worth the hassle.

The only way men would be less pathetic is if they pulled their weight and acted as equals to women. Not more than or less than.

Anonymous · Answer

You are saying modern men are pathetic and responsible for the actions of previous generations? I'm not responsible for the sins of my father, and I'll never pretend to be. Also, pathetic is a pretty general term that can't be answered without knowing what you mean specifically by pathetic.

jangljy · Answer

It really depends on what you mean by pathetic, I mean, you could mean it to imply he's got no sexual willpower, no sense of self, you could mean it as away of masking your own frustrations with men being assholes ti you, by blaming them for the thing YOU have the most power over, that also dictates to us guys, just how the relationships going to go... or, you COULD be just Genuinely frustrated with the fact that men are naturally polyamorous lying cheats. Who will stop at nothing to get ALL THE VAGINA THEY CAN GET!! AT ALL TIMES!!! ALL FREAKING DAY LONG if possible for most men!

Kaneki05 · Answer

In this day and age? Don't you mean this is how men have always been?

The people you talk of are the ones who wish we went back to there golden era were women couldn't vote, couldn't own property, just be a maid, and have limited free will. Because there still men like the old days.

Andres77 · Answer

what about the men that DID do the right thing?
don't throw us ALL under the bus.
that's like a lazy thinker that blames racism for not putting enough money on their EBT card to pay for their latest tattoo.
you're better than this.
you're smarter than this.
you're only in your early 20's. you have not yet EARNED the right to this cynical.
where the F is your dad?
i bet the answer to that THAT question explains a lot.

TheFlak38 · Answer

If you have a problem with men holding so much power then go live in a 100% communist society like N. Korea let's say. Where men are not in the mood to strive for something and accumulate wealth, since the government is taking it all from them. Ok you man-hating bitch? And the legal system is already 50% female with the other 50% male being married and looking at the world through love goggles. Which is why women win in the vast majority of court cases.

888theGreat · Answer

A snake can't have two heads and get anywhere. The bible is men dominated too. Heaven is still male dominated. I will also state that 1950's America is lots better than 2020's America. So, I guess women's movement is a big reason why. They have kids but let someone else raise them and now we have gangs and kids shooting kids.

Anonymous · Answer

A lot of men do suck, but then again so do a lot of women. Many are selfish and do not consider the ramifications of their actions. As long as they are comfortable and get what they want out of an interaction, it’s “fine” but it’s not…

Rather than complain, make sure that you aren’t one of these people, and simply invest your time in better people. Change starts from within.

VikingWarLord · Answer

The Beta Males and White Knight SIMPS are the ones to blame, they worship the feet of women (even average or overweight women) and have ruined the fuckin dating scene.

We now have average b1tches (4s , 5s and 6s) walking around like they're 9s and 10s. It's fucked the whole thing up.

TallAnon · Answer

Well, we're living in a time of general peace. There isn't much we feel like we should fight for. An average dude can fuck women regularly, do a 9 to 5 and have enough to never cook, clean or do the laundry himself. I'd call it complacency.
Now don't think for a second that thing won't drastically change if times of war or scarcity, that's where you see the real nature of mankind.

Juxtapose · Answer

The problems with modern day society is from human nature rather than male or female nature. Blaming men or women is part of the oligarch's plan to divide and conquer.

Anonymous · Answer

I can only speak for myself l. I have yet to be proven by a woman that she's trustworthy. Anyways it doesn't matter, my life does matter. Women have made it inposs to find love because they don't want to be loyal to just one man. They would rather just have a half dozen to hit up or go out with a random for one night. A shame for the men who just want love. Also I do blame men too, bec they stood aside and let this all happen in the first place.

Avicenna · Answer

Social Justice System? Pray tell, what is that?
And you’re mistaken about who works in the legsl system, especially family law.
The real problem is that the legal system and public sector are dominated by leftists.

Ryfyle · Answer

@subarugirl The "Men" you are talking about are probably narcissists that never lived hard in the first place. You would be better off disregarding them.

frannyfoo · Answer

The human race has always been pathetic. There's just a spotlight now. Shitty behavior isn't gendered.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

Research "The War on Boys." It's ingrained in modern education to emasculate.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Ok, let's do this. Please describe how men have helped to create the disaster that is modern culture.

PoliteSpeaker · Answer

Same reason why so many men of the last age was so pathetic. It is more easy to be a negative person than a positive person.

Anonymous · Answer

good point... but instead of just throwing it back to men, maybe we could both acknowledge our part and work together?

YesICan · Answer

"no one talks about holding men responsible for their part in the social climate"

Irondrago · Answer

Women have been shaming men into building the world the way iut is since the dawn of time.

The simps 80% build the world in womens vision and the real and only true humans (alpha males) fuck those women.

This post is a perfect example of why women are to be seen, not heard. No sense of history or how things actually operate. Just dumb dull and ready to be cummed in like the little subhuman fuck toys they are

BeMuse · Answer

You as an individual are responsible for your own behavior. That selfishness and lack of personal responsibility is what they are constantly talking about.

Bklynbadboy12 · Answer

Wow! I'm really shocked at what I'm reading its no wonder the world is so fucked up instead of focusing on the the problem we should focus on the solution and working together to make things better

Why are so many men in this day and age so pathetic?

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