It could be called anything you want to call it it could be called greed it could be called selfishness it could be called putting the wrong people in charge of other people I'm giving them the label of boss or supervisor you give stupid people stupid titles it goes to their heads that's why I will never work for a boss or a supervisor because they have been picked like a random drawing to be in charge of something they have no business being in charge of if I'm going to work under anybody it's going to be a leader somebody that has more insight than their toenail the moment I would have heard that there was a tornado heading our way I would have said do you want to stay here building should be safe and I would have already picked out the brick part of the building not the metal part of the building or I would have said go home and be with your family if you think it's safe enough to drive if not you can stay here we'll find a safe place we're shutting everything down no power let's shut it down all the breakers would have went off there would have been no electricity going throughout that building all gas would have been shut off if there's gas it's called stupid people with stupid titles if I was their leader I would have said you all go home because that's where I'm going I'm going to get into a shelter you all need to do the same thing put out both hands put life in one hand put candles in another hand what's more important in that moment I wouldn't be afraid to be fired I would say go ahead and try it I would take the responsibility of not selling candles that day even if the tornado would not have hit their I would have still taken the responsibility lives or candles there has to be at least one person that walked out of that building and said fuck you I'm going home there has to be
Free market economy and capitalism. THEY SUCK
This made me so angry. I work in a distribution warehouse. I work as a route manager and have 10 drivers that I oversee. I do everything from creating and organizing their routes, to contacting clients and other support tasks. If there was a threat of inclement/emergency threat level weather while on the job, I'm telling them to drop what they're doing, return to the warehouse (if possible) to leave the trucks and get the fuck to safety. The freight I tell them to haul is not worth their lives
Oh no way do you work for Amazon? Really?
@vald9inches No. We're a more local company. We deliver heavier supplies than they do
Oh cool! You must be very intelligent and quite the strategist to have that job. Do they pay well i might apply for such a position
@vald9inches On the job posting they said that applicants MUST have mathematical and problem solving skills. Math was my best subject in school so I was a natural XD
Interesting! So did you ever use a lot of math on the job? I feel like whenever they say that you hardly ever do lol xd
No, this is the result of people deferring to people who are in leadership roles. If you don't take shelter during a tornado because your boss threatens to fire you you take shelter. Let him fire you then sue him for wrongful termination. That is if he survives the tornado.
@bean2k21 if its 1-2h away then u get plenty time to tget in car and outrun yes. If it was already on top of u did it matter what urcboss shouts there? Its over
The general rule of thumb is to place as many walls between you and the outside as possible. The closer to the ground the better. If there isn't a safe place at work leaving the workplace to go home and shelter in your basement would be the solution. They seemed to have enough time to argue with their boss before the tornado hit.
Plus tornadoes generally move slowly across the ground. You could probably out run 98% of them in a smart car. We had a windstorm on Wednesday and it was moving really fast for a storm at 70 mph.
“The general rule of thumb is to place as many walls between you and the outside as possible.”
From images in the video that general advice doesn’t seem to hold much weight. Area’s prone to tornados need safe bunkers capable of surviving this type of destruction.
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u Greed and self-centeredness are not caused bu capitalism. Don't you think that greed and self-centered exist in socialist and communist countries?
Money=incentives hmmmm 🧐
@vald9inches There is money in all political systems. None of them abolish money.
Um dont you mean economic system? Also one system has money as an integral part of it more than the other...
@vald9inches Even in hardcore socialists countries money is KING. They just have a lot of rules to make it hard for the average person to become wealthy. But if you have the right connections it's allowed. In North Korea for example, sometimes they order everyone to work 13-15 hour shifts in factories for 8-10 days at a time, months on end BUT if you have a lot of money you can buy vacation time and skip the work. You have to be rich to do it tho.
@hahahmm North Korea is a dictatorship. A very strict one, people there even have legal haircuts and don't have access to internet. Not socialist.
Also in countries with very few socialist policies like the US you are not more likely to get out of poverty compared to the one that do.
@asker in human history every society used to have a lot of strict rules, even if there wasn't a dictator. If you wore the wrong clothes even 100 years ago you could get arrested in the U. S. That was back when capitalism had more of a free hand in the U. S. too. "Also in countries with very few socialist policies like the US you are not more likely to get out of poverty compared to the one that do." -- Uh, what? You need to tell that to all of the migrants running to the U. S. I've met several who went from broke to rich within 5-7 years. They disagree with you.
@hahahmm one thing is to have laws, another is to strip people of basic human rights.
The ones running to the US are running from a situation where they don't have anything to eat into a situation where they will have a little something to eat. But if they could go to another
more socialist country like Switzerland they would have a decent amount to eat.
Don't confuse dictatorships or latin American countries, who were always destroyed by the US, with actual socialism.
@hahahmm ummm i highly recommend to take any information about North Korea with a huge grain of salt. Any information about North Korea is notoriously unreliable and also fraught with capitalistic or western propaganda... Also in America you are statically very likely to be bankrupt by medical and student debt than to ever get out of poverty. Do you have a chance to get out of poverty? Yea sure you do but just as you have a chance at winning the lottery its extremely unlikely. The odds will always be stacked against you
People who are born believing this system and they don't learn about history, they don't learn about previous empires, they don't learn about different ideologies, they don't learn about the federal reserve or terms such as military industrial complex, biological warfare, zionism, wahhabism and they allow ignorance and arrogance to take over with childish responses such as "ohhh so you want to $1/hour living in Cuba you fucking idiot" type comments that indicates to me they are lost. Capitalism is greed, it's a system where the people on the top benefit and those on the bottom suffer. Ask young people today who feel they are so intelligent that they love capitalism and let 30 years go by and then ask them how they feel if they broke their back for capitalism, if they lost loved ones for capitalism because they couldn't spend more time with, the list goes on. It won't surprise me one bit if another Great Depression happens, it won't surprise me if another World War occurs. Someone is going to read this and assume I'm a communist or socialist, actually I'm not, but I do believe in human rights and workers rights. China is a communist country and they don't believe in workers rights the same way the United States doesn't either. Another thing is, for any nimrod who wants to use his or her Twitter fingers to give this comment a dislike and automatically assume I'm a socialist/communist should understand something. Karl Marx was someone who didn't believe in God and said people who do are basically asleep. I believe in God and in one God only, therefore, why would I support an ideology based off something Marxists use today derived from a man who didn't have real faith. The system is corrupt. People called me a fucking loser and a fucking idiot for a few years back on GAG when I said another recession is coming or that 2020 will be the start of something terrible, or that the decade of the 2020s will see unprecedented things or that crypto currency will be the new form of currency.
Let's fast forward 2 years later...
- Global pandemic in early 2020
- Bank of America announced a global recession in March 2020
- Economists warned of a bigger economic collapse one day
- Unemployment rates rise even though companies are also downsizing but making revenue from more online sales
- The United States is pretty much promoting and advertising crypto currency now that they are even naming stadiums after it
- Geopolitical tension with the potential of war
I can keep going on, but it doesn't, people will give this comment a dislike because I spoke the truth and it doesn't conform to their way of thinking. To those people I say, I'm not going to drink their Kool-Aid and say "the economy will bounce back, everything will go back to normal, capitalism will always make Europe and the US victorious, blah, blah, blah. I know the go-to drill people use to reply to comments. Eventually capitalism/neoliberalism will collapse and it will be a huge slap to the face of those who thought this system was indestructible. Political ideologies was used to divide people and fool people. The fact that there are people int he West who hate people in the East just because a government pushes an ideology. That doesn't mean everyone is evil or bad in this world. But politicians, the media, the news and governments plant those hateful seeds into the minds of others and then it just takes over the mind.
Wish I could give another MHO.
We generally call this "Late Capitalism". The idea is pretty simple, Capitalism is the pursuit of profits and does not have any real internal mechanisms to prevent it from violating various things like freedoms, personal health etc.. As such if you let it "run" for long enough then capitalism will inevitably evolve into something like this where corporate profits is more important than peoples lives.
Its important to note that this is not the only direction late capitalism can go in. Another example is destruction of our environment such as climate change or worse in pursuit of profit. Under a pure capitalist system its entirely possible to evaluate the extinction of humanity VS profit and choose profit. That is the absurdity of Capitalism in isolation.
As such its important to be aware of this aspect of Capitalism and make sure to reel it back in whenever it gets any funny ideas. Sadly this is not really a thing in USA.
Beautiful well said! But you have to admit it will be a never ending constant struggle to keep corruption and capitalism from reaching the late stage.
@vald9inches Definitely. Capitalism is not a perfect system and has its major flaws however it is also a very powerful ideology so without any better alternatives its worth to fight to keep it around in a subdued state. That is why many modern countries tries to use Socialism and Capitalism to try balance them against each other as both a way to get the best out of both worlds but also to prevent either one of them from getting too much influence and fall into their bad side effects.
Yea we definitely do need a better system capitalism has definitely way outlived its usefulness and in this day and age of technology and progress it is only in the way
... wut lol
Your premise falls about rather quickly. Business owners are protected yet don't give af about the worker. Do you have any idea how easy it is to cause legal trouble for Business owners?
The only protections they get by and large is related to the risk they are taking on in the process of creating jobs for workers to have within the economy.
Additionally with the numerous workers rights and ability to sue and win against the company. You can't say the system doesn't protect the worker.
Let's say he fires them and gets taken to court. Do you really believe the Business owner wins that lawsuit?
Under capitalism the business owner are far more protected than the workers. Let's say they take them to court. Business owner have the money to drag on the process making the workers spend lots of moeny they don't have until they have to drop it. Appeal after appeal and the companies can spend that money in court.
Even Trump already admited to do this! It's a very common and sadly effective. Not to mention brides that take place behind the scenes.
So yes the business owner wins the lawsuit.
System protection are the rules and powers of government uniquely looking out for the business owner. Having money and paying the lawyers is not "the system" looking out for them. They're leveraging their resources which is an entirely separate matter.
Businesses have been caught in cases in the last where they lost in court simply for having an unsafe work place. Any proof showing the company or supervisors told them they are fired if they leave is damning in court.
And a lawyer that stands to make bank winning against a big company will take that on cheap to free because the case is readily winnable. Easier still when it's public in the media
Actually it is because the government can force companies to allow unions. In countries with heavy socialism big companies have big unions and do heavy damage if they want. In the US? Companies make sure thier workers don't have a union.
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When I say the system backs them up is because it does nothing to protect workers when they are being exploited.
Even if they make it cheap a process that drags on forever while you probably don't have a job after your company fired you because of the lawsuit you put on them won't be easy to pay. And is never a certain win.
Capitalism does not cause tornadoes, no. If you're asking whether it causes people to be risk being fired if they take basic safety precautions, then allow me to introduce you to Cuba, where you risk being SHOT if you insist on basic safety precautions; the USSR, where you risk being shot and billed for the bullet if you ask "shouldn't we have some safety precautions?"; and North Korea, where you risk having your entire family starve to death in a forced labor camp if you learn the phrase "safety precautions".
Capitalism, by contrast, lets you leave a job that has no regard for worker safety, and find a better one. Or organize a union to protect yourself and your fellow workers from abuse.
It is, by far, the worst of all economic systems- except for all the others.
First, this has nothing to do with capitalism. Second, the company wanted them to go into bathrooms and hallways. That's the right thing to do. From what I gather, when they were told not to leave, there was no warning at that time. It had been lifted.
Bottom line is that these guys might have wanted to go home, but there was no reason to.
On top of that, many (most?) of us who live in tornado country don't take those tornado warnings too seriously. They are a warning to be alert, not to go running immediately for shelter.
Duh capitalism is the very definition of corruption and allows all types of things to happen and or to be sacrificed in the name of profit. It is a system that rewards you to be evil or lack morals and empathy and punishes those who do try to be good and charitable by driving them out of business. But you know muh freedom! Muh money! MURICA!!!
Wish I could give you MHO also.
Haha no worries bro this question is a reward enough for me! It shows not everyone is totally blind and brainwashed by capitalism
Same 🤜🤛
The destruction is caused by the embarrassment of the American population who prefer to live in wooden shacks instead of living in solid concrete houses. Not from the production system.
Hurricanes in America existed even earlier than there was a capitalist type of production system, e. g. Hurricane: Nicaragua 1605; Florida September 5, 1622; Cuba and Florida October 1644;Martinique and Guadeloupe August 14–15, 1666;Barbados September 27, 1694;Bahamas July 31, 1715;Martinique August 5–7, 1767;Havana October 15, 1768;Lesser Antilles, Puerto Rico, Hispaniola, Bermuda October 9–20, 1780.
That building wasn’t a shack.
Make a few calls. Fix the problem. Save lives.
Nope not really just a capitalism thing. It exists in communism, fascism etc.
it’s more of a thing where the job or task becomes or is perceived as more important than people.
Under Soviet rule, plenty people were worked to death, same with China, North Korea etc.
people simply have no value and are not given basic rights and protection.
The problem isn't with capitalism as a system, it's the people. If the same case was with any other system, it would still be the people to blaim. And assuming the tornado wasn't infront of them, maybe there was miscommunication. I do think the justification for firing although beneficial, isn't necessary
I don´t see how that couldn´t happen in a socialistic society because the original problem is the careless behavior of high positions. In a socialistic society you can still face the problems because there are also people in high positions claiming the same kind of authority for themselves.
They may not own the company but they are still in control.
I don't believe that.
No job just fires you at the drop of a hat like that, especially when there is a public safety issue. At worst you'll get some mark against you and if you leave early or miss work enough times within a certain period they let you go.
I am highly suspicious of that being true.
Yes. Capitalism causes this, the return of child labor, exploitation of workers, and billionaires playing astronaut while the people who work for them have to work 60+ hours a week just to keep a roof over their head, even though without those workers, the billionaires would have nothing. Capitalism brings a small group of people profiting greatly off of the pain of the masses.
Yes, under an ideal communist system if there was a tornado instead of being told to stay with the risk of being fired the commisar would have forced the workers with AK-47s trained on them to work faster so that as much product could be made and thus more of it will likely survive a tornado strike.
No Capitalism did not cause this, it can be places at the feet of managers who have no respect for the workers they they are responsible for.
A bad manager can take a good work force and destroy it, causing the best employees to flee and the remainder to lose all motivation.
@msc545 More likely the managers were on a power trip, and did not believe that a tornado would hit where they were working, which is rank stupidity, I live in the UK and we rarely if ever get full blown tornado's and those that we do never get to F1 level but we still have the sense to take cover if a warning is sent out, If they find those managers responsible for telling those workers to remain at their work stations they should be hit with Reckless Endangerment charges at the very least, up to Manslaughter if workers have died because of their negligence.
Not protecting employees’ safety is not capitalism just like punishing an employee by dunking his head in the toilet for not making a sale is not capitalism. Companies usually have designated shelters and a process for protecting their employees when there is an emergency such as an active shooter or tornado. This company failed big and they’re going to be sued into oblivion, as they should.
Yeah, it's Kentucky. Had the tornado not destroyed the place, we'd still be hearing about how smart and courageous the employer was to make the right call in the face of whiny employees that just wanted a handout.
Just cough a couple of times and they'll send you home for a covid test. Far easier than arguing with an idiot.
Yes, in a capitalist economic model the dumb and useless have to suffer such treatment. The same model provides peace and prosperity. The alternative is what citizens of the twentieth century Soviet Union endured. Unfortunately you can't ask them a question on GAG cuz they all dead from malnutrition and potato addiction. Death at 45yo from potato and lack of purpose. I hope you're not advocating the same system here in the West. I don't like potatoes.
No. It's what tornadoes cause. How did capitalism get into the weather.
A word of advice. No Capitalism, no I-Phone. No decent cars. No good apartment or house. You must have been brainwashed in government schools.
While is true that capitalism made sure civilization evolved really fast due to the constant pressure to innovate, it happened at the cost of workers lack of rights. We could have evolved slower, but gave most of the population a decent living.
Today you don't need capitalism to have anything you listed.
Are you kidding me? Even today in the US workers in big companies like Amazon don't have decent work conditions and even presents them from forming unions.
You don't. You really don't. There are many counties out there that have very high levels of socialism where you have all those things. Not only that but the general population also has better access to health, education and buying capabilities.
Fyi the internet was created by a socialist program 😬
Capitalism is the freedom to trade stuff we own. It causes good and bad. You can find far worse though in systems where people don't own their stuff and get everything they hold dear taken away by the state.
Yes, this is what capitalism causes, but what would you replace it with? Communism? That's not exactly a great system either.
Or maybe thats what you were taught to believe... 🧐
No, it's caused by a person promoted to their level of incompetence. Happens mostly with Party members in countries like Cuba and North Korea. But I've also seen it here.
That is exactly what capitalism causes. Profit and property become more important than life.
Please keep telling me how wonderful Capitalism is and all that bullshit.
So you think in socialistic countries, people never get killed at work? Think again. They just won't be making a big deal about it in the news in those countries.
That's not caused by capitalism. That's caused by someone who's doesn't care, isn't properly trained and decided to put everyone in jeopardy. But also in today's world you sadly can't believe everything you hear. But if this report is true its horrible management.
no, capitalism does not cause tornados. and workers being threattened to be fired when they don't come to work during a tornado, that's not capitalism, that's just a douchebag boss, that nobody should work for.
m Capitalism in general, no. The perverted, American version of it, absolutely. Quod erat demonstrandum.
Is Chernobyl what socialism causes? Of course not. Apathy for your fellow man's safety causes things like this.
You are cool. Corruption to The System and human greed are present in all types of economies. To be clear, I’m not excusing what happened here any more than what happened in Chernobyl.
In another thread, I recommended 10 lashes to a candle maker (you can check my posts, my history is open).
I missed the part where a firing squad stood behind them ready to shoot them if they left... like in the USSR... funny that, huh?
Its probably because of the workers left the company would be liable for injuries and could get sued, where ax if they stayed and got injured its covered by insurance. This is more the result of our fucked up legal system then our financial one.
Stuff like this just causes people to pull more upper deckers on employer's public restrooms.
What does that have to do with capitalism? It's just some idiot supervisor who underestimated the tornado. The only difference for socialism is that they would be poorer and more desperate to keep the job and be more likely to stay.
Monopolistic Corporations are not Capitalism. It's exactly opposite of Capitalism.
Capitalism is about competition. Protectionism is anti-Capitalistic.
Capitalism is not a conscious system making moral decisions, if anything, the perfect boss who gives you a raise is just as capitalist as your boss who fires you for racist reasons.
Well…yeah. And that’s the balance the founders thought of. Business and state. Now the govt should, and hopefully does, take them to court along with the families.
That has nothing to do with capitalism. That's bad management
More or less. These are the insular types that capitalism raises to the top.
This is not unique to capitalism. Have you ever read about how the Soviets treated their workers?
Not here in the UK as far as I see/experience but no system is perfect some shoot you for not doing your job
Obviously no system is perfect but some are better than others as well as more humane and better for the environment and its not capitalism! Lol
Cool story bro go live in cccp
Cool story sis lol the US arrest more people than any country in the world and has the largest prison population! 😛
I'm not American so what's that got to do with what I said?
America is the symbol of capitalism
So what do you prefer North Korean style yeah
A country that has all the embargos in the world placed on it by the very same capitalist country that claim to be so great? Lmfao you really think thats a fair comparison? Were the hell would america be without the support of the British empire when it first started? Fyi there are plenty of other communist and socialist countries in the world that will put america to shame. I mean you are also one to speak getting free universal health care in the UK! Lmfao 😂
You sound jealous to be honest what a shame
Of free universal health care? Hell yes i am jealous! The US health care system is one of the worst in the world!
@vald9inches On that we agree
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@vald9inches not to argue a whole lot on your points but America did NOT have the support of England when they started out. In fact they were sending troops over here to kill us and bring us back under England's rule.
True but by then the US was self sufficient enough to defend itself and claim independence. I mostly talking about before when the US was still a British colony
@vald9inches oh yeah England had the support of England. But the USA did not.
Its was still a British colony though lol my point is however you look at it the US had some support until it became self sufficient enough
@vald9inches the British colony had support. The United States and their Declaration of Independence had opposition. And even that "support of the British colony" was pretty meager. The pilgrims were on their own foraging and dying in droves. It was all the outcasts who came to America like Irish fleeing the potato famine, persecuted religious groups, etc.
I don't understand why you are trying to downplay it so hard? Lol its like you yourself was there and you are defending your own pride or something 😂
@vald9inches not downplay or up-play anything, just don't think the statement is accurate. It's not personal attachment for me, just why say England was supporting them when it wasn't? There were no welfare checks rolling out of England; the only reason they wanted it was to get resources sent back TO England,
And i suppose all the tools, firearms, and food was never supplied to them on this trip to the new world huh? Do you honestly really believe you can make a colony or a settlement without having to support it?
@vald9inches yes of course there were ships, munitions, etc. All that was as I've already said in the expectation that it was an investment that would reap rewards of goods flowing back to England.
Doesn't matter what their intentions or their feelings where man you have to focus on the facts of the matter at hand. Dont let your feelings cloud your judgment. Feelings can easily be manipulated and therefore make you easily manipulated with all sorts of propaganda
Well regardless happy new year guy's
@lottiebannotie lol Happy New Years beautiful! 🎉
@vald9inches have a great one 🎉
@lottiebannotie happy new year 😍
@vald9inches I’m not emotional at all about events hundreds of years ago, and facts are facts, the expeditions and equipment/supplies “support” sent to the Americas had nothing to do with helping others start a new life and everything to do with procuring resources from this “new world”. Facts. Not emotions. Lol 😂 happy new year to you; too
Hey dummy I don't know if you've been on planet Earth for a while but all human beings make garbage idiot
No that's what poor leadership causes.
I doubt letting the government take control would have a different result. If anything, it'd probably happen more often.
No that what Corporatism dose. There's no profit to be made, in fact, there's huge losses keeping your people in a meteorological kill box. You could make money by not being Amazon at this point.
Yeah, things are much better in socialist countries like Venezuela and North Korea. They had the option to leave, albeit with consequences. By no means am I saying that mgmt wasn't dumb in this case
Nothing to do with Capitalism. One person that wanted a feather in his hat and thought production was more important than their safety. He could face jail time yet.
I'm from KY. These people would hold a big party if i died. They deserve no sympathy.
Do you think workers aren't ordered to stay on their jobs in socialist countries?
Try organizing a general strike in Beijing.
Yes, capitalism causes homo horses to eat each other.
What? That's anti capitalist. This is just oppression
Nah, Bezosism does that
Socialism causes mass graves and 100% unemployment
This is 100% false.
All true and hyperinflation as well
You know that there are counties with high levels of socialism who beat the us in pretty much everything that matters right? Education, healthcare, poverty rate, affordable housing, etc.
Stalin made the trains run on time…remember…. socialism is wonderful
@joeldalton you really think Stalin is a good example of socialism? That is communism. Before you say there are the same thing, communism appeared exactly because communists didn't agree with socialists. Both are to the left, but that's the same thing as saying nazis and capitalists are the same thing because both are to the right.
Lol, socialism is awesome it just has never been successfully accomplished.. That’s what you’re telling me.
Nazis are left wing just look at George Soros so that's one argument down
Socialism doesn't work well if the socials would agree to jump in a mass grave and let the rest of us be it would be great
Are you serious? Nazis are right wing. As right as you can get actually.
@joeldalton yes
https://youtu.be/k79wCaFgU40
oh wow..."debunked" by a retarded lefty. No shock.
@joeldalton but he is right. What socialists consider socialism is what north european countries have. And they are far from failures. So yes, socialism never failed.
Also insulting him just because of what he is defending holds no value.
What you are calling socialism is government gimmes. That's not socialism. Most of those countries have free markets
See Joel we beat another one
@joeldalton yes it is. Do you know anything about the subject?
Opinion owner you said that nazis are from the left. You beat yourself.
They are the EU was born in the ashes of Nazism and follow the same policies in less extreme forms at this point
Not even close. You have zero knowledge on the matter.
The EU formed over 10 years after the end of the war and they tried to repress Nazi ideology as much as possible. So they went left not right.
Nazism is a form of fascism, with disdain for liberal democracy. Literally far right.
10 years wow, like how those war criminals still turn up occasionally, the left could tell you the sky is pink and you'd swallow it
There are still people who defend nazi ideology sadly.
I don't blindly believe anything. And neither should you. However told you nazis where not right wing lied. And you swallowed it.
That's the Jewish community so on Nazism do I take the word of the victims or a guy who would let the Nazis carry on if they aren't affecting him personally as you have with you acceptence of the EU
First of all, neither I or any socialism would let the nazis carry on regardless if they affected us personally or not. In fact the US was the only country that only entered the war when it began to affect it. If not they would have let nazis have their way.
Second, this is not an opinion. Nazism is a form of fascism, wich is extreme right. This is just a fact. Google it if you want.
Google definitely isn't in operational in California the woke cesspool, only you've refered to the US as my geographic location, incorrectly I should add
Once you get on to the higher plain of understanding that shows the political spectrum is in fact a circle and extremism i. e. fascism exists equally in all parties
The US are usually the ones who defend this system and are this much ignorant about socialism. Ever since the cold war they have an agenda against comunism and they mistake it for the socialism we defend today.
This "fascism exists equally in all parties" is literally impossible. Fascism by defenition is extreme right wing. It's not possible for every party to have it equally.
You've been indoctrinated and an even see it, that's how the 'education' system works worldwide to create more liberal puppets, voting for their own death warrants
It's kinda cute really
The system brainwash you against socialism. Not against capitalism
The system has allowed you to be devoid of free thought
You are confused... mine is free thought
Clearly not if you vote for poverty and genocide
See? Socialism has nothing to do with genocide and poverty. Yet here you are. Why? Why do you have such a false view on it? I tell you why, because you were made to believe it.
Socialism causes poverty and commits genocide to keep itself sustainable then the army don't want to kill anymore and everyone stops working, starts fucking and you end up with overpopulation and hyperinflation
Except that is not at all how any of developed socialist countries work. They have a very low poverty rate. High employment. Affordable housing. Free healthcare. Free education. But the level of education of their population is also high.
And zero genocide. So... A you know are lies. And you say you are not brainwashed
They hide the issues and the genocide
Affordable housing doesn't exist anymore, anywhere
They hide it? Your excuse is that they have secret conversation camps? So we are into conspiracy theories now?
You believe in non existent genocide and you say you are not brainwashed. This is surreal.
They kill them in hospital and just put natural causes on the death certificate, conversation cps now that is funny
So not concentration camps they just pile bodies at the hospital 😂
Look at Harold Shipman, that's the way they do it then just lie on the paperwork and cremate them to destroy any evidence
So you think entire countries do the same thing a lunatic did. They do it by the thousands, they have lots of staff and medical professionals on it?
This is the same sa saying big comapnies in capitalism have forced labour and that is how they keep their profit. It's pure conspiracy theory. And shows lack of notion of reality on your part.
Hell I just want them to go in to nuclear warfare once new year is over
They are not going to.
It'll happen most country's haven't surrendered to the pandemic and let China fuck them so they need more to get the world in their hand
What the hell are you even talking about? More conspiracy theories?
You know but won't admit the truth
I genuinely don't know. You have a bunch of make up believes how am I supposed to understand?
There are shitty people in charge of every type of organization you can dream up.
Goo visit the apple factory in China. It is one of the better places to work and it sucks.
The workers who stayed there deserve to die for being morons.
No just bad bosses and lack of common sense by the workers because I would have just left, no job is worth getting killed
Yes it is. Capitalism is sociopathic, just like most businesses and corporations. This extreme sociopathic capitalism is the main cause of communism.
That's not capitalism that's greed and a moronic choice by the managers of the company
No. Look at the NBC logo. This is what Capitalism exploits ( for ratings).
Not sure how you you made the leap to capitalism here. Lol
I suspect the problem here was that the employees "axed to go home". Of course they would be told no. No supervisor is going to authorize that kind of workplace violence.
You think that's bad? You should see what communism causes!
Sure, but under capitalism a worker can always tell his employer to go fuck himself and walk off the job. Under communism you end up in a gulag where such behavior is. . . shall we say. . . frowned upon.
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