Proverbs 6:16-19: These six things the LORD hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren.
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I forgot to post about what this man said years go on how he doesn't ask God for forgiveness. It's so obvious this man doesn't love the lord God, and the Bible yet many American professing Christians just overlook his character because they like Republican policies. 🙄
Proverbs 16:5 Everyone proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD; Though they join forces, none will go unpunished.
"Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, A false witness who speaks lies, And one who sows discord among brethren." All these I'm quite certain you cannot prove that Donald Trump without a question has comitted. Just reciting a verse and including a picture of someone doesn't make them guilty of any of it. The one thing we could lay claim to is a proud look, he does often look proud. But even that is to a certain extent subjective. Does it look prideful? Yes. Does that mean conclusively that it is a look of pride in his heart? No. And even as he may comitt that sin of a proud look, is there not grace for those who repent? Trump has stood up for Christian faith multiple times, hosted prayer in the White House, openly given God the glory, called Jesus the most famous man in the world. With all this it might be uncertain what truly goes on in Trump's heart, and for that very reason we have no right to judge him wicked, for only the Lord knows he heart. And condemning someone's heart is sin. Looking by the fruits of his labor, I see only good things.
America has the most professing Christians in the world, he doesn't stand up for Christians for nothing, he does for votes.
Donald can care less about God. The man is wicked and has been known to be a wicked man for a very long time. You just don't live in the U. S. to know who this man really is.
If Donald Trump was currently with the Democrat party you wouldn't be defending him. Christians who know their Bible here look and despise people like Trump. The man is a abomination of a person.
If he was a democrat and still had done what he has in his presidency yes, yes I would. Because unlike you it's not a blind matter of ideological ditches to me and what camp you're in. And you're still just raving, no real arguments nor pointers but just namecalling. And the video you posted is from 2016 when he was first elected, since then, the actions he undertook for Christians as I mentioned have come to pass. He has stood up for religious rights, fought against free abortion, established the Abraham Accord; the only leader in history to make peace between Israel and many Arab and African nations thus creating unprecedented peace for Israel, continously prayed in the White House, and offered glory to God and Christ. But you won't see that part because you hate him in your heart. It is possible for people to repent you know, and I see a clear before and after with Trump. And if you do not afford Trump that opportunity, then you're not worthy of it either. It is the exact kind of hypocrisy that the Bible speaks of. "But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins." -Matthew 6:15
It is also some nerve you have to claim that people who "know their Bible" should despise Trump. To despise and hate people is the opposite of the message of Jesus. You clearly haven't read anything about Christ's message to hate the sin but love the sinner.
Your arrogance is as tiresome as it is sanctimonious. It is not for us to judge anyone's heart, that is for the Lord. You cannot say you know what goes on in Trump's heart and to claim to do so is sin. And please do desist with your childish attempts at inferring bias on my part, it is rather ludicrous of someone who spends all his time wringing his hands over the supposed sins of someone else to do so.
Always the same pattern. You pluck out a phrase and interpret it according to your bias so that you may try to justify your petty vandettas with people you hate, you always refuse correction and incessantly believe only yourself to be right. The Proverbs definition of a fool. "A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion."-Proverbs 18:2 "Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence."-Proverbs 15:32
Proverbs also has things to say of hatred. "Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses."-Proverbs 10:12 Along with: "The one who conceals hatred has lying lips, and whoever utters slander is a fool."-Proverbs 10:18 And you shamelessly comitt all these trangressions in one post.
The verse you so clumsily cited is speaking of the attitudes that comes from both ways of people. Honest people despise the dishonest and dishonest the honest. This is nowhere a command to hate people that *you* deem to be dishonest. And anything in the OT that clashes with NT, Jesus' teachings, is not to be heeded in favor of Jesus' teaching. That is sort of the whole point with NT and something I'd expect even newborns in Faith to know. "To speak evil of no one, to avoid quarreling, to be gentle, and to show perfect courtesy toward all people."-Titus 3:2
Yeah, whatever. You the same guy that defends Israel and think they are God's people and follow morons who don't like nor fear God like Jordan Peterson. You seem to like and defend people who don't like God and rail against me because I point it out.
Psalm 139:20-22 For they speak against You wickedly; Your enemies take Your name in vain.
Do I not hate them, O LORD, who hate You? And do I not loathe those who rise up against You?
I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.
And once again you resort to namecalling and insults, wholly ignoring that Christians aren't to slander and speak ill of people. Your hypocrisy is massive and your self-awareness nonexistent. Anyone who responds "yeah whatever" to the teachings of Christ cannot claim to follow Him, you seem far more comfortable in the OT in any case. And repeating the paultry choice of a few verses you do not understand doesn't make you anymore right. You recite a verse where King David speaks of one moment in time where Israel was disobidient to the Lord and act as if that denounces them for all eternity as having been God's chosen people when the Lord himself doesn't say that. If you want to argue based on that infantile premise then I can just as easily do this: "The days are coming,' declares the LORD, `when I will bring my people Israel and Judah back from captivity and restore them to the land I gave their forefathers to possess,' says the LORD."-Jeremiah 30 The time of Jeremiah was long after the reign of King David when the psalm you recited was written. God in the OT did at many times remove his Face from Israel as to punish their infedelity towards Him, but every time they repented and shouted for Him, He returned and saved them from the enemies of Israel. God never abandoned His covenant with Abraham, not even when He allowed Israel being overtaken and crushed by foreign realms did He allow them to completely go extinct and preserved a "remnant" to restore the Kingdom in time. This, is how you delve into the Bible. Not just showcasing a few verses laden with detestable interpretations meant to satisfy your flesh.
And to finalize my belief in that Trump has indeed repented in later years: "Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit." -1 Corinthians 12:3 https://youtu.be/DJblkdpjCik
Enough is enough. You're just mimicing my own rhetoric now trying to flip the tables essentially going "no you're stupid". Do desist with that.
Trump was a good leader. The economy was strong, China wasn't being aquiesqued to, Christian faith was protected and valued and the Abraham Accords brought unprecedented peace and trade to Israel. It disgusts me how people like you turn a blind eye to all this because "orange man bad". It is the highest level of corruption to refuse acknowledgement because it's the "wrong" person. And your sharade in claiming to represent "decent and good Christians" that way does not please the Lord. The Bible also say to pray for our leaders despite our opinions. I certainly do not support the current government here but nonetheless I pray for them. I doubt you've ever uttered a single prayer for Trump as president.
Trump is not a false prophet. It is called false equivalences.
And yet you to try to use random verses in OT to justify hating Israel. And they are too Jews. They are the Jewish ethnicity descended from the Hebrews. There is nothing in the Bible even suggesting that Christians should actively hate and oppose modern Israel. "I know my Bible I know my Bible" you rave. No you don't. Being able to recite Scripture isn't knowing the Bible. Atheists can do that, the Devil can do that. Knowing your Bible is having the spiritual insight of the Holy Spirit when reading to know what is conveyed. And to know all the historical contexts. Knowledge you give no indication of having in your little crusade of contempt.
Are you sure this is even about the Bible? And not about politics. Trump is a rich white man who critiques uncontrolled immigration and doesn't subscribe to victim-culture. And even long after his tenure you are making these petty posts about him. It doesn't matter what you say, hating people is not Christian. Hating sin is. And I hate hypocrisy. But yes, a majority of Evangelicals support him because he's been the one modern president to stand up for Christians rather than spit on them. And maybe just maybe you should be humble enough to consider that the problem lies with you and not literally everyone else. As Scripture says, only the fool considers his own path right and refuses any council or correction.
Intellectual laziness. Joining / making viable a third party built on principle and devoted to taking action requires too much effort and actual dedication. Too much thinking. And being a bit too willing to take on the swamp directly.
It's so much easier to simply assume whoever has a red tie and GOP jersey on will somehow fix everything, mindlessly vote red, and go on pretending like this will solve all your problems. Except, Brandon's Dominion and Nexus allies are not to be so underestimated. They have specialized since the fall of Venezuela in making sure that elections always go in the direction most favorable to Soros, the Po (o) pe, etc.
So vigilance is needed. It's not enough to vote and go home.
From my opinion I’d say that politics and religion have no correlation and if somebody chooses politics more than they choose the religion and that justifies itself and so does if somebody chooses their religion more than the politics and also justifies themselves and so I guess you could say if somebody is not being true to their religion, Then we cannot look at them and judge them but we can only pray for them and MoveOn
Biden believes in abortion even after the baby is alive. That shall not kill. Trump is against murdering babies. 🤰 Biden said he would wipe out COVID. That shall not lie!
Hi. Its cool to see an older lady in her 60s on here. I agree with you but I also understand his criticisms. I dont like biden, and im so sure about Trump but he was our greatest bet in a crisis
It comes down to principal and policies supported... Trump was probably one of the most pro life presidents we've had had in my lifetime... He was big on religious liberty.
Many Christians see what a flawed person he is, but at the end of the day who are we to judge. Are his sins greater than my own? God sees sin as sin.
As far as leadership goes, he helped protect a lot of liberties and principles that Christians enjoy. His policies were aligned with my beliefs. He was far from perfect but so am I. I cared more about policy and principle
Yah Ithink for most people he's just the guy they found least bad and God works through flawed people, most politican are bad so I dont blame you if you dont like him but people have there very good understandable reasons for liking Trump
They think trump is a better person and leader then joe for reasons I just said. They don’t trust liberal politicians bc they think they r more untrustworthy then trump
Joe Biden is a paedo though. Haven't you seen the way he gropes and sniffs young girls and women? Look it up, you can easily find it on YouTube. He's an absolute creep.
I mean one side advocates for killing babies and the other doesn't. If you can't figure out which side is more in line with God, you are clearly part of the army of satan.
You are of Satan. I've seen all the trash you promote and will do on here. Trump clearly exhibit character traits God hates and yet fools like you follow him blindly.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy... Aren't you being a bit judgmental yourself? Isn't God ultimately the only judge that matters?
At the end of the day, Christians care more about policy and principle. A gay atheist could run for president, as long as the principal and policies they support are aligned with my beliefs, they'll get my vote.
I cannot support abortion, welfare state and policies that strip Americans of freedoms
When did he do all of that? He is only President to pray in public. How about Biden lying? How about Biden's crooked deals? How about Clinton having sex with little girls? How about Obama inciting a racial war?
Anyone that follows the orange shitstain is NOT a real Christian, that is, one that follows the teachings of Christ. Those evangelicals that do have been misled by the anti-Christ.
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The man's blonde hair is worth everything. Maybe that's why. 😃😊
Put simply they are not practicing true Christianity. Jesus refused all offers and opportunities to be politically involved. He told his followers to do the same.
Morality and character matters a lot in leadership. Trump is a wicked man. He shouldn't be supported at all. You's suppose elect righteous men to lead a nation, not devils.
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