Jan 24, 2022 U. S. Pentagon says 8.5 thousand troops have been put on "Highest Alert." Are we going to war?

[exitseven]

I try to convince myself the Putin is mart enough to know that was is never profitable to anyone but the arms dealers.

[robocop666]

costly and young men will be put up for war without consent like in vietnam. This will be awful.

[nightdrot]

Not likely. Of course, sometimes wars happen by accident and the element of chance here cannot be ruled out. Thus it is to be hoped that an administration that, it must be said, has not, to say the least, so far demonstrated a gift for subtlety and nuance, will be able to manage this situation.

That said, the US interest in Ukraine is derivative and therefore, not being vital, will not likely lead to war. Not to mention the fact that the mobilization of a mere 8,500 men, given the size of the Russian armed forces, hardly constitutes a major move and is more symbolic than not.

That said, the problem is that if the United States seems to roll over and play dead on the Ukraine issue, then it opens up the possibility that both China and Russia may come to the conclusion that they can move against more sensitive targets - see also Taiwan (where we currently have no treaty obligations) and the Baltic states, where the United States does have NATO treaty obligations.

The other interest we have is in keeping Europe united. This getting to the US historic interest in preventing a dominant hegemon on the continent.

Currently, Germany is blocking the RAF from overflying German airspace. It is also now forbidding the transshipment of Western weapons to Ukraine across its' territory. (See the Three Emperor's League and the Nazi-Soviet Pact for other examples of German-Russian cooperation.) This then putting Poland and the Balts out on a limb.

If Germany is willing to side with Russia against Ukraine and there is no counterweight - in the form of the USA - on the other side, suddenly the whole NATO alliance looks shaky. Suffice to say, that would be to Russia's huge advantage.

So, and here I have only outlined in a VERY generalized way the state of play and skipped over a ton of nuance for sake of brevity, while we do not have a DIRECT interest in Ukraine, it does not mean that there is no interest at all. It is a derivative interest born of other issues but handled with reasonable dexterity, is not likely to lead to war.

[ohshee]

Sooner or later we are have you already in war with China if you haven't heard they bombed Guam so we started bombing then and that was a cyber War I would do the shoot missiles back and forth to each other I believe it was a ploy to see what kind of knowledge we had Russia was right there in submarines watching everything happen because their computer whizzes sometimes I feel that our politicians I just like Donald Trump big fat fucking mouth kid tries to do scare tactics and did away with nothing but a fucking bully and instead of holding back a little bit and watching and learning and listening we jump right into it he'll open our big fat mouth say my dad's bigger than your dad all I have to say is that I am so happy that I am an American I also am happy that we are all crazy motherfukers and we little people are just sitting back watching and waiting the real sad part about it is we have all these other countries that want to kick our ass I know a couple kids that went into the military and their drill sergeants are not like they have ever been before the two boys that I know that went basic training when they have come back on leave they are crazy motherfukers they have no respect they have nothing except for brainwashed psycho killers and I believe one of these days is going to be American against American our government is that a controlled and one day when the little people get fed up with all the bull crap and we say we're fed up it'll be brother against brother and hopefully the brothers in the military we'll snap out of whatever trance there in because there's going to be a lot of senseless deaths and that is not cool at all

[BipBipLeddus]

A declaration of war is possible, but unlikely. This is pretty much just the US making a statement. It all depends on whether or not a US or Russian soldier in Ukraine gets jumpy. If one shoots the other, you can pretty much guarantee open war from then on until one party withdraws from Ukraine. After that, cold war is back on the menu. 90s nostalgia is going a little too far with that one.

Russia is going to keep doing this until the separatists and defectors take over the rest of Ukraine and hand the deed to Putin practically for free, just like Crimea. After that, tensions will ease up, then the worthless politicking resumes. The UN will keep not recognizing Russia's newly acquired territory as part of the Russian Federation, and Russia will continue having it anyway.

World War 3 will be fought with nuclear weapons. World War 4 will be fought with slings and spears. Such is the fate that rich old men have decided for you.

[lightbulb27]

I don't think we are going to war, hope not. if so, 8500 is a drop in the bucket.
more likely russia pushes to get some negotiation. if they invade, they take them out quickly or else it won't work, get stuck in the spring mud.

I doubt he'd posture so long and invade, why do that when he could do so by surprise, or by coup? Doesn't make sense, he's negotiating and testing reoslve. Putin's been complaining for a year without movement, so he's pushing the issue.

The problem though... itchy trigger fingers. You won't catch me flying anywhere near that area. Bunch of people got killed not long ago by mistake missile launch.

[hahahmm]

Hopefully not because the leading rivals to the U. S. know the U. S. is super soft right now. We don't have the ideological determination to go all out in a war. We also haven't promoted the right people in the military for decades. We mostly promote people who make good diplomats/political operatives instead of the people who are the best at getting things done. Other countries didn't make that mistake... one day the U. S. will fight the wrong country and the results will be much more disastrous than Afghanistan.

[Lliam]

The U. S. is playing brinkmanship. It wants to take all of the former Ukraine away from Russia in order to rob Russia of it's primary, warm water naval base. It also wants to build military bases along all of Russia's borders. It's insane now the U. S. tries to characterize Russia's defensive moves as aggressive.

Historical fact: The Obama administration engineered a coup against the democratically elected Ukrainian government by actual swastika-saluting Nazis. Many Ukrainians, especially those in the east, were horrified. The new Ukrainian regime attempted a violent purge of those citizens who were Russian or who preferred a Russia alliance. But the U. S. doesn't care about human rights or democracy. It's only goal is world domination by any means necessary.

The Democratic part has become the party of both totalitarianism at home and unreserved aggression abroad.

[AviatorTom]

Your question is not correct... the Pentagon has put US troops on "'heightened alert" as the US and its allies (ex:NATO) discuss whether to send more troops to Eastern Europe to counter Russia's threat along the Russia-Ukraine border.

Personally, I don't see a war happening, though there will probably be a lot of military "posturing" and "threats" on both sides. Ultimately, Ukraine will remain independent and will not become part of NATO (that would be a direct and unacceptable threat to Russia).

[sean1234]

Mark 13:5-8 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:
For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.
For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

http://play. google. com/store/apps/details? id=bible. kingjamesbiblelite

And athiests ask for evidence of God's existence? How many more prophecies have to be fulfilled for them to believe? We are definitely there... WELL into it!

[Anonymous]

We're overdue for a world-wide scale war. In bygone days, wars were always a threat even in the developed areas. People have been sitting pretty for too long. They've gotten too comfortable and are complaining about insignificant shit like pronouns, wage-gap, dress codes and other idiotic things. I've been waiting for a massive reckoning to put people in their places again.

My ancestors fought hard in WW1, WW2, the Napoleonic wars, and other major conflicts. They built themselves up from nothing and worked hard. Many of them were out in the ditches working for their families even as young as age 67. Modern folks have been sitting around complaining about nothing and have no idea how good they have it. So let the raining of bombs, cannon fire, carnage, and battles begin!

They'll be begging for scraps when it happens and wish they didn't complain so much.

[BeMuse]

What you didn't catch on with all the Russia Russia Russia shit over the past decade that the Democrats are balls deep in corruption associated with Russia and they will do anything to avoid swinging from the gallows up to and including total nuclear war... Welcome to reality. Are you awake yet or will it take a false flag of a nuclear detonation in a major US city triggering a nuclear holocaust? You're dealing with truly evil people.

[Gal67]

Yes, I think that this time war will break out, either via miscalculation or intent. 8,500 troops aren't much, they couldn't on their own stop (or even hinder) a major invasion of the Ukraine, but of course that deployment would only be the very first, and more would follow. I see this spiralling out of control, and I also see the Chinese using this as an opportunity to seize Taiwan.
I guess I should finally write my will, and I'll have to be sure I have a sufficient supply of pop-corn on hand.

[Wade12345]

i hope to God not. We'll spend anotherh 10 trillion dollars and get God only knows how many people killed on both sides if we end up in a proxy war much less an open war with Russia.

This is just old peopl eand very stupid people in our government and Russias who are about to ruin the world for entire generations of people for no good reason other than their mad quest for power and wealth.

[HighValue]

I don't know. Biden is trying to distract people from his terrible decisions of ruining our energy independence, economy, etc. Weapons are being supplied to Ukraine while threatening Russia with sanctions.
Russia has been pushed away and into China's arms. They will be allies against us. the sanctions won't matter to Russia.
I think after the Olympics are over something will happen with China and Russia. Russia will likely take part or all of Ukraine and China may attack Taiwan.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

What I heard is if Russia invades Ukraine the U. S. is going to intervene there suppose to be some U. S. troops or people in Ukraine, so President Biden wants to protect them and I imagine if there are U. S. Citizens in Ukraine President Biden wants to bring them home safely without them getting killed but it's hard to say?

[BCA6010]

If the US was expecting actual hostilities, we'd be sending A LOT more than 8,500 people.

8500 troops forward deployed to a region is at the absolute most, only about 2,000 combat troops- and the US military tends to run closer to ~10% of soldiers being combat troops. Sounds a lot more like a security force to assist in evacuation or relief efforts to me.

[WilliamPamer446]

Probably, i've been suspsecting this is going to happen. The least this f*cker could do is give us a time of peace after the Iraq-Afghanistan mess. It hurt enough that the war was orchestrated and doomed to fail and caused more trouble than help, but its like throwing salt on the wound to make us lose the war on purpose

[Anonymous]

No use in closing the gate after the horse gets out. We lost our chance of beating the God damn Russian's asses at the end of WW2, we were the only one with the atomic bomb. Too late now. We better let this situation alone, other than arms and support. Them God damn Russians will kick our's and our NATO helper's asses. We will be in Russia's ball park. We are too fucked up now to try committing suicide and Putin knows it. The Afghanistan fuck up sent a good message to Putin, he liked what he saw. Putin is in the driver's seat.

[DiegoO]

Anything can happen. I hope the conflict don't go any further.

1) With the pandemic my chances of finding a job, decreased.

2) With the shitty despotic government of my country, pretty much I don't have much options.

3) Never subestimate a tyrant delusion.

[abc3643]

I don't believe we will be going to war. First-off, for a real war, Congress needs to declare it and, with so much hyperpartisan shit going on, short of another 9/11, Congress couldn't agree on which brand of toilet paper to use.

[MCheetah]

It would be absolutely idiotic to go to war over Russia/Ukraine when China has been the black eye on the planet for the last 15-20 years now. I REALLY hope the Biden administration isn't THIS incompetent. They can't be. This all just has to be blowing smoke.