Do you agree with this feminist that male commit suicide because they are violent themselves?

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

wtf. What a toxic, sexist bitch. I hate how some feminists refuse to admit that sexism towards men still exists. Sexism towards men is in part responsible for their high suicide rate with the whole not being allowed to show emotions or ‘weakness’. She is just fuelling the fire.
The only thing that will lower the suicide rate is mental health awareness, reducing the stigma of struggling, and letting people feel that it is okay to ask for help.
Fuck this bitch.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Nope. It’s harder to be a guy than a girl.

MzAsh · Answer

The fact is that male suicide is more violent than female suicide. I don't know about any other point she’s trying to make.

OpenClose · Answer

Ok so like I'm actually super in board with the goals of feminism, and think they are more right than wrong in some of their narratives. I think the discussion about bullshit gender roles had been advanced by the movement.

I think women's liberation has been good for men as well. The dependence on us is eased. And now we get to expect a working career woman rather than expecting someone to babysit.

So I sometimes say that I *am* feminist, but not *a* feminist. I consider it's perspectives in my own views, but it isn't the summation of my own views. So I distance myself from it.

Why?

This. This shit right here. This is why Clinton lost. This is why the most mild mannered people looked away or cheered when Trump would just tell people off. This is why, despite the public generally favoring left economic policies, the DNC loses damn near always. This is why there is a section of YouTube dedicated to "SJW gets owned in public".

It's all about this conspiracy-mongering mental gymnastics in which they've already decided who the villain is, and will twist and contort their entire worldview just to paint themselves as victims and everyone else as oppressors.

ADHD is a common problem boys deal with? "Girls get it too" isn't enough. They gotta say "girls get it way more and men are just oppressing us."

Domestic violence is usually mutual, and surprisingly close to 50-50. "Men do more damage".

Crime by women spikes in the UK. "We must close women's prisons because women only commit violence due to social pressures and don't deserve prison". Not an exaggeration. Yet the most anti-feminist thing I've ever heard from a feminist.

Homelessness is overwhelmingly male. So only the *sheltered* homeless statistic is used. Or in the movie Wild. "We don't see homeless women that often." "That's because women don't get to be lazy. We don't get to give up on our lives." Honestly can't respect the author, the movie, or Reese Witherspoon after that line.

What in the bloody hell is so hard about simply seeing a men's issue and addressing it on its own terms? It's called basic empathy. Why the need to twist it around until it is the very victim-blaming you supposedly abhor? Everything is "it's just men shooting themselves in the foot". Just shut all the way up and detach yourselves from needing a monopoly on victimhood. We need to be empathizing with each other. Not creating excuses to turn empathy into antipathy.

BCA6010 · Answer

No. This woman is misguided at best, and probably bases her entire worldview off of the toxic projections of a college professor.

Suicide is the "final solution" to someone believing that things are so irrevocably bad in their life that it'll never improve, and therefore life isn't worth living anymore. It is historically much higher in men because men generally take failures and struggles personally, while women are more prone to deflect or project it elsewhere. It has been my experience and observation that women are more prone to periods of depression, but men are more likely to take it to an extreme, and less likely to seek help. Even if all other factors regarding support were equal, male suicide would be higher. A close friend of mine who works in mental health therapy told me a few months ago that about 90% of his clientele are women, and a huge factor there is just the fact men won't seek out and sometimes even reject help when it's available/offered. The feminist movement is actually a contributor to the problem (but not the source), because it has gone out of its way to prevent anything that allows men to be perceived as victims or in need of help from seeing the light of day.

Kaamraj · Answer

Using that logic, females attempt and fail at suicide more often so can one conclude that they seek attention and are not actually thinking of carrying it out? - Yes males are stronger physically and more prone to violence. It is not that all violence is bad, it's essential for the survival of humanity. If you want to chop a tree and use the wood to keep you warm in your cave, that's violence. If you want to hunt a wild boar and eat its meat to not starve, that is violence. If you want to defeat a predator and keep your family safe, that is violence too. The world is violent.

Anonymous · Answer

Feminism is misandric by nature and has contributed towards the attack on men and masculinity for decades. No, she, nor any other misandrist is for ending male suicide. Men's problems are not addressed by feminism and never will be. Feminist are not egalitarian, and should never be misconstrue as such. This was a thinly veiled attempt to delegitimize any mens rights movements and their activism with the " but feminism already is for that! So they must just be misogynist!" Nonsense that they've been spouting since 2012.

TL:DR; no, Men's issues, are not women's issues...

MCheetah · Answer

I don't think I agree with feminists on anything. They're stupid, miserable, hateful people. And this chick texting here doesn't even look like she could change a tire or cook a meal for herself, let alone give sage advice about mankind.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

People who commit suicide are victims. I think she's gaslighting them. That's not right. That's messed up.
She has a cold heart.

This is the main problem with radical feminism. Feminism fought against the dehumanization of women. Which was a good thing; that's why I call myself a feminist. But radical feminism dehumanizes men. They make us into animals. Like we are worth nothing and therefore can be treated like objects.

SkipPerk · Answer

No. Suicide is about depression and loneliness. Women are emotionally stronger and have stronger relationships. Men often find themselves alone and hopeless. When my wife left me I thought about it, quite a bit actually. I sought out help because I have had friends who committed suicide. None of them were violent. They were are alll kind, gentle men. Monsters are inconsiderate. They do not ever consider self-sacrifice.

be careful to distinguish between story-telling academics and data-driven researchers

Sasha_Gee · Answer

That doesn't make the man violent 🥺 they're just lost and feeling cornered. She calling depressed men violent and blaming them how will that help these poor souls? 😭

Oigit · Answer

Not even close. The vast majority of time it's because people have a lot of things stacked up in their subconscious. In general it's like living a haunted house. But those ghosts are in your subconscious mind. Meaning that roughly 90% of your awake mind is haunted. It's also much like a haunted house. You might not see those ghosts 24/7 but you know on some level they are there. You also will experience moments where those ghosts make them presents well known. Those moments can happen with out warning and can come in groups.

My head was a mess for years. My life was going to end in a overdose or suicide if I didn't get help. So I did and instead of jumping to conclusions and sticking her foot in her mouth she needs to open her ears, shut her moth and talk to people who know what they are talking about. Hell if she hates men so much I'm sure their are women out there that will echo everything I said. Because they have been there too.

Lionman95 · Answer

Yes and no.
Yes the act is maleviolence but the causes that led there could be various.
Because of that I'd say no.
It's too narrow minded to say men committing suicide just do that because of the violence in them.
That would mean it's their own fault if they killed themselves, right?
Also the description of her sounds like it should feminism could teach guys what good masculinity is.
by the way the result of that would be all guys turning into mommy's boys.
Feminism goes to far if they think they could control and form guys into good men.
It's not a problem that can solely be solved by women

ohshee · Answer

I think it is nothing to do with feminist or anybody else it has something to do with them something inside of them that they can't seem to get over it's all about them and they're going to make it all about them so then they're going to do whatever they got to do it's sad it's sucks because there is a way out everybody has a new label if you're not this your that it's bullshit what is everybody just try to be a fucking human being get over themselves right is right wrong is wrong everybody should live that way quit getting people titles then quit projecting death or suicide on other people they need help is what they need has nothing to do with a fat girl

VanillaSalt · Answer

first off suicides for weaklings and cowards… too weak or afraid to face life, suffering, or something else.

Many people these days are lost but men uniquely suffer alone. A woman can post selfies online and get some kind of reaction that affirms their misguided “value”. Men can’t do this. We don’t get compliments, nobody cares if we suffer as long as we continue to carry out our responsibilities.

If something happens to both a man and a woman the women is societies first concern. All the changes in society benefit women solely. Our social contracts giving men a release are even under attack. What is marriage to a man these days besides some woman’s attempt to steal his money if he fucks up? Women say men are toxic, the government says a man’s wealth believe to women, society says fuck men we only care about women… truth or not that’s what men see… you don’t commit suicide because you have no future… you commit suicide because you THINK you have no future.

BipBipLeddus · Answer

Imagine being so self-centered and stupid that you think someone struggling with invasive thoughts and eventually taking their life due to the stigmas of dealing with mental health issues, which happens regardless of gender, is a personal attack against you.

TexasRed95 · Answer

That is absolutely absurd. I have been suicidal multiple times in my life. When I was in elementary because I got bullied so much including by the teachers. In highschool because I was so stressed about graduating. It was in highschool I was diagnosed with anxiety. At my first job because I was constantly harrased by my boss and coworkers being the new highschool age guy. And when dealing with the stress of taking care of my mom, sister, both of their lazy ass boyfriends, and my friend with autism. I was the only one making a paycheck at just 22 and was taking care of all of them. Never once was any of it about violence.

globetrotter22 · Answer

She is an amazing selfish piece of shit. She is using even more mental gymnastics (Olympian level) to find a way to blame men for something that is so serious. She will do anything to avoid having women take responsibility for this very serious issue.

Lynx122 · Answer

No I don't agree. It is true that males try more lethal ways to kill themselves than women. With women it's often a cry for help but men are more like :" I've made my decision and now I'm going through with it". But it's more of a difference in the way we think and not because of violent behavior.

lrina · Answer

people like this are probably one of the main reasons why men even commit suicide in the first place. people like this just don't even let men live and enjoy life, and just sit and complain about them being worthless.

PapaDad · Answer

No. They do it because they do not feel valued and they see no way out. Men and women both feel this way when they attempt suicide. Men just tend to be more successful at going through with it. Could be the testosterone connection. When they decide to do something, they just DO it. Very sad.

Aerissa_Jade · Answer

This person has no idea the suicide is a desperate attempt by someone wanting to end the pain of life.

Sure it can be violent if they use a gun or something but those that use carbon monoxide, that isn't very violent. Men just find more effective ways to end their pain and succeed at.

I do not agree with her, there is a number of reasons people end their life or attempt to and I can say I've never known anyone to do it because they were a violent person.

Effably · Answer

I am not very judging as a person. Some people are too unintelligent for social media access though. This person is a prime example of this group of people.

As a rule of thumb, swap the gender and see how it sounds. If it doesn't make sense anymore or appears insulting, it was likely moronic to start with two.
For this case to highlight it I'd suggest you use rape and promiscuity. Should get the point across on how dumb this sort of logic is.

Anonymous · Answer

No, if men decide to commit suicide it is because there are no services there to help them, and when men commit suicide they do it first time, no 'cries for help' as women do because women have the safety net of medical and social help that men are denied.

sage2021 · Answer

We should be praying for these poor souls that had no other recourse but to end it. And I would guess many of them didn't want to do it, but didn't have any people in his life to help him get out of his situation. Desperate people do desperate things! God be with them.

TerryT · Answer

No men commit suicide because they are deeply depressed. My father did & my 19 yr old son did. Both were depressed. Stupid people think Stupid things

DesiUwU · Answer

I have but one question
In my life I have rejected or tried to leave someone 3 times. These 3 guys all threatened suicide. I have never heard of a female threatening suicide just because she got rejected or left, and if she did, she doesn’t do it to their face.
Do guys just try to make you feel like crap?

Somoneelse · Answer

Whoever said this has no idea what she is talking about... Suicide has nothing to to with violence. Suicide is due someone being in so much pain that the only option he thinks works for him is death.

Anonymous · Answer

Suicide is the product of a mind that has run out of options. Period. Degrading all males as inherently violent is part of why we have fewer options from the start. I can't even take my daughter to the park without being suspiciously eyeballed, and sometimes even directly questioned, by the mothers of the other kids. Why? Because a man is always seen as a predator.

SnakeBoop · Answer

no because no one commits the act as an act of violence. merely a desperate attempt to escape their life and its troubles that have overwhelmed them.

TwoToTooTutu2 · Answer

What I am getting from this is that "Men commit suicide to abuse women". That is one of the dumbest things you can possibly say.

Djmbbasgerd · Answer

You know they don't seriously believe what they say right? They jus say this stuff to try and wind men up or try to make us feel inferior, that's the main goal of feminists.. if she actually believes that's the reason she has a horses dick for a brain

Dchrls78104 · Answer

Feminists have proven themselves to be sexist lunatics; why should I give a thought to what a feminist says?

Ez-Bri-Z · Answer

I'm a feminist and I highly disagree with her, but I also highly disagree with your bronze age comment in another post. You are either a self hating woman or a fake pink account with that kind of attitude.

Honesttguy · Answer

Men farts
Feminists:"maleviolence!"
Any movement men make is considered "maleviolence" by feministsWe men breathe oxygen how dare we? You know, how dare we to exist? I just violently ignore them and their bs.

AviatorTom · Answer

No. Suicide has nothing to do with violence, for a Male or female. It's a sign of desperation and hopelessness. This feminist is either very confused, or trying to make a name for herself... sad.

Guardian45 · Answer

No, I don't agree that males commit suicide, because they are violent.
WHAT A SMELLY LOAD OF HORSEDUNG!
How would this explain female suicide? Suicide has NOTHING to do with being violent! I believe the sole connection between male suicide and violence is that men tend to pick MORE violent methods of suicide than women, for example death by gun versus death by overdose.

RolandCuthbert · Answer

No. Men and women attempt suicide at similar rates. But men are more prone to just get a gun and blow their brains out. Whereas women try to use pills, drugs, cutting, etc.

IMuser · Answer

If it was really a craving for violence, joining sports such as boxing would be equivalent to therapy and stop male suicides then. People kill themselves because they lose hope.

libsaretards · Answer

Whoever said this is full of shit. The reason men commit suicide more is because they do not have a support network to help them.

AdithyaR · Answer

That's nonsense. A person doesn't commit suicide out of some need for violence. It's literally cause they've reached a point where they feel no hope in life and don't wanna live anymore.
What lady is saying is so wrong that it's sad.

Mia-Wallace · Answer

"Maleviolence"  "Malesuicide" Femaleretard.

MrtoddsWildRide · Answer

A man kills himself or cries out for help and this narcissist think it's all about her being abused.  Some people are gross

wankiam · Answer

no, i agree with feminists that recognise the high numbers of men committing suicide as a symtom of the patriachy that pushes men to be devoid of emotion and always assume a dominant role in life

Anonymous · Answer

I stopped reading after " do you agree with feminists"

Heartache0405 · Answer

Blaming men for their own suicide? Why the hell would I agree with that?

Anonymous · Answer

Nope.
They commit more suicide because their feelings are mostly dismissed. They are still expected to be big and strong, and are therefore not really taught how to process difficult feelings.
Society fails them.

RawIronhide · Answer

Men commit suicide cuz no one gives a fuck about our issues. We're expected to take all the responsibility for everything and get zero help along the way.

CallmeTheKnight · Answer

Since when are modern day feminists right about anything? This is just crap in itself.  Suicide is Suicide. Gender specifics are irrelevant

Lucy-123 · Answer

As far as I'm aware, women have higher rates of suicide attempts and men have higher rates of suicide. Correct me if I'm wrong though. So the idea men "succeed" in suicide more because they are more violent isn't exactly unreasonable to suggest.

Anonymous · Answer

We all know that Feminist are mentally challenged. Men kill themselves because society doesn't support them, provide for them, or coddle them they way it does women and men are treated as disposable.

joeldalton · Answer

Men commit suicide more, women attempt suicide more. The difference is that men tend to pick ways that have a much higher chance of succeeding. Women trend towards taking pills.

EnglishEuropean · Answer

That's some industrial-grade bullshit right there. It's also projection because feminists want to be violent towards men, they just don't have the means to do it.

Juxtapose · Answer

Of course that feminist twat wants to make male suicide all about her lol.

RealMarek · Answer

Her argument is disproven by the fact that women are more apt to commit self-harm or “threats to self-harm.” Men are just less apt to fail at the attempt.

awkward_author · Answer

I couldn't disagree more if I tried. There's many reasons behind why someone would die by suicide. Being inherently violent, however, is not one of them.

jasco · Answer

No that's dumb. People commit self harm acts usually out of depression or something mentally awful, they aren't doing it for whatever feminist reason she think it is

Crepe_tart · Answer

they're not feminist and doesn't know anything about feminism

Gwenhwyfar · Answer

She’s not wrong but I feel sorry for anybody of any gender who seriously tries to end their own life

loveslongnails · Answer

That's just one rather simplistic explanation of a much more complex issue. Doing any kind of harm is a form of violence.

notwoke · Answer

men are much more likely to have the aggression necessary to murder, commit suicide, but also to lead and protect and stay focused during tragedy. That and they have to listen to women talking 24/7/365

Agape93 · Answer

That cunt isn't a feminist, she's just an ignorant bitch.

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