Why do you think that in the US, Putin is getting more support from the right than the left?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

I think it's pretty striaghtforward: Putin is an imperialist autocrat and authoritarianism and imperialism are nominally right wing stances.

[befuddle]

The Democrats…
- Fought a civil war against America to maintain slavery.
- Founded the KKK to hunt down and kill freed slaves and Republicans that assisted them.
- Crafted Jim Crow laws to segregate the population
- Crafted the New Deal’s National Housing Act of 1934 to redline Blacks out of White neighborhoods.
- The German-American Bund (American Nazis) gather in the blue state of New York at Madison Square Garden to show solidarity with Hitler in the 1930s.
- Supported the Nazi war efforts in WWII through corporate interactions from woke companies like Coca-Cola. Ford, IBM, etc. which helped to get many American Republicans killed in battle.
- Tried to repeal civil rights legislation in California in the past couple of years.

Ukraine is run by legitimate Nazis… Democrats like that and want to keep it that way.

- Under the Obama/Biden administration Democrats funded the Azov Battalion, Svoboda, and others Nazi groups via tax payer dollars and personal contributions from major supports of the Democrat party like George Soros to foster riots and lead a coup d'état in Ukraine.
- RINOs like John McCain and Lindsey Graham that are part of the Deep State uni-party in cooperation with George Soros financed Democrat Victoria Nuland struck the deal to back the Nazis in an attempt to start a proxy war with Russia.
- Many of the major Democrat political families are tied up in corruption associated with this and other criminal behavior in Ukraine. They obviously don’t want people to find out...

Republicans
- Fought a civil war to free the slaves
- Under the Ku Klux Act, Congress authorized Republican President Ulysses S. Grant to declare martial law to impose heavy penalties against terrorist organizations and use military force to suppress the KKK.
- Republicans opposed Jim Crow laws and eventually were successful at overturning them.
- Republicans who have a strong heritage of military tradition fought the Nazis in WWII to destroy their stronghold in Europe.
- Republicans today who have aligned with Trump/Q are trying to expose the corruption of the Deep State and to hold criminals in our government accountable for their crimes and are working to prevent a kinetic third world war that would sacrifice the blood and treasure of the American people. Alliances have been made around the globe to meet our objectives...

[befuddle]

supporters

[befuddle]

And I don't even have to point out all the Nazi/ANTIFA connections associated with the Democrat party... That's common knowledge at this point.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

I said the American Right, not Republicans (and news flash: the party switched) and the since 2014, The far right groups who orchestrated a coup in the Ukraine have since been elected out of office; nice Gish gallop but seriously get your head out of the past.

[befuddle]

1) Parties switched huh? How so? Under slavery the Democrats wanted division. Under segregation the Democrats again wanted division. In the modern era, the Democrats still want division. You’re dumber than you look. Just because someone sells their house and moves to California doesn’t mean the parties switched. It means a culture migrated across a border to consolidate their power in a more amiable location. A history of actions is considered character evidence. It is used as proof of motive, intent, preparation, planning, etc.

[befuddle]

2) George Soros is an avid sponsor of the Democrat party. He funded Democrats to the tune of $50 million dollars in the 2020 election alone. Soros invested $1 billion dollars on the coup d'état of Ukraine. He openly brags about his role in the coup d'état in a CNN interview. Go look it up. George Soros was also a Nazi collaborator during WWII and he’s not sorry about it. He was interviewed on that as well. Go look it up. Igor Kolomoisky another aristocrat also pumped a lot of money and influence into the coup. Together with the assistance of the Obama/Biden administration they financed and armed Nazi groups to take power. They utilized their Democrat diplomat Victoria Nuland to install a puppet government that would be protected by Nazi groups like Azov Battalion and Svoboda. Its all on tape. Go look it up. George Soros’ Open Society Foundations generally espouses a flavor of global communism which is left wing. He has not problem killing Jews, Roma Gypsies, or Slavs right along side with Nazis. He’s admitted as much on video tape in an interview. The Deals in Ukraine were struck under the Obama administration, which again is the left wing. The facts are strong, your brain is weak.

[befuddle]

3) Many Nazis are still in positions in the cabinet, the military, the capital police force, etc in Ukraine. Nuland made sure of that when she made her deals on who would and wouldn’t be in power. They were put there by Democrats. You’re just willfully ignorant at this point. If you can be spoon fed the facts like this and not go look it up and figure it out with your own brain, the only rational explanation is that you are also a Nazi collaborator and you strongly support the cause. Thanks for outing yourself.

[goaded]

Racists joined the Republican party in the 1960s, as a result of the Democratic party passing the Civil Rights Act in the 1960's, which was opposed by southern Democrats.

The rest of your Gish Gallop, I'll leave until you show some sense.

[befuddle]

@goaded Switching accounts now huh... That doesn't help your case at all... I know exposing Ukraine corruption is a very sensitive topic with the globalist, and apparently you're a very sensitive guy. Your guilt is all over your face. You scapegoating Southerners as racists just amplifies your bigotry. People know racism when they see it. The truth is plain to see. They knew it when 20 million Soviet citizens were put to death by the globalist regime or died as a direct result of its repressive policies and they know it now when they see BLM/ANTIFA openly attack old women and children in the streets of Democrat run cities as their politicians openly call for violence. They also know it when major Democrat financiers fund Nazi militant groups to carry out violence and provoke proxy wars in Ukraine. Talk is cheap, actions speak louder than words and your actions speak volumes about you and your intent. Your weak attempts at propaganda don't fool anyone.

[goaded]

Yes, I'm definitely a sock puppet account and not a totally different person.

[befuddle]

@goaded Well at least you're being honest about one thing.

[goaded]

OMG.

[befuddle]

@goaded I'm not a God.

[ObscuredBeyond]

That "parties switched" line is one of the most laughable, discredited piles of bull ever continually spewed, Orator. D'Souza alone did entire documentaries showing how patently false it is.

[befuddle]

@ObscuredBeyond Yeah but they will keep trying to scapegoat Southerners for their own ills to the end of time. They don't know how to tell the truth... You could just post the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol7OMGBDMao

[befuddle]

What he doesn't cover in the video is that after the civil war the Southern economy and infrastructure was ruined. Due to price competition, cotton production for the most part moved over seas to places like Brazil, India, and Egypt. That which remained endured due to share cropping arrangements between Democrats and the former slaves working in partnership. Slaves who left their plantations often suffered extreme poverty and starved to death because they could not find work on their own. Thus slaves often stuck to their former masters like glue and went where they went. Many of the plantation owners could not economically compete under the new circumstances so they sold their land and migrated toward new economic opportunities.

[befuddle]

In the late 1800 this was westward expansion following the Transcontinental Railroad as well as other road building projects and riding the prosperity of the gold rushes in the western states. Building roads/railroads is hard work as is mining… When you have a lot of slaves working for you, opportunity knocks… Democrats changed industries… This is easily observable in the prisoner leases to private railways and mines after the end of slavery. It’s also easily observable when you look at where former slaves migrated to during the Great Migration. Six million former slaves moved to the West, North East, and Midwest where gold mining, coal mining, iron mining, steal productions, etc. where taking place. This is why many Blacks ended up in big industrial cities, it is where their slave masters migrated and invested in new businesses.

[befuddle]

Those same slave masters organized trade unions and continued to control the labor pool and skim off what they wanted from the top. They negotiated contracts for workers and ran political campaigns that focuses around the welfare state. They kept Blacks under their thumbs and their voting power granted former slavers power.

[befuddle]

After WWII new economic opportunity was present in the south and the Sunbelt Migration occurred. This brought Republican G. I. returning from war to the south for good wages, better housing opportunity, and pleasant weather conditions. Democrats don’t like reality though, if their isn’t a spoon or two of bullshit in their morning coffee you’re going to have one irritable Democrat. They are constantly trying to get over on people.

[genericname85]

i don't think trumpists "support" this war. but conservative people generally speaking tend to have more life experience and more professional expertise, which is why they evaluate such events differently than a naive liberal.

of course nobody says that it is a "good" thing what putin does in ukraine. though it makes a lot of sense for putin and russia from a lot of perspectives. exactly the same as the USA involvement in Iraq. it made a lot of sense for america to do that. but it was neither good, nor legitimated, so in quality the same as what russia does.

so i think the arghument that trumpists make isn't that what putin does is great. but "as the western world", we're not any better than that plus biden had a very big part in this happening. i mean he litterally forced putin to do something. cause if putin had done nothing, then he would have had a nato base right at the border in ukraine, with potentially American warheads. so if i was putin, i would not know how to prevent the nato from doing that other than just taking the country honestly... maybe you have a better idea.

[genericname85]

Also you'd be wrong if you say that totalitarianism is a right wing thing. Look at china and the Sowjets. Look at Canada with Trudeau and basically the entire western world with the corona measures. Left wing is not foreign to fascism and totalitarianism or oppression of the people.

[Dargil]

The Nazi's did not call themselves the "National Socialist German Workers' Party because they were "right wing". They were fascist socialists.

[genericname85]

@Dargil yeah national socialism is left wing. Not right. I don't know why people say it's right.

[John_Doesnt]

[supercutebutt]

Putin was the darling of the Republicans because they thought every time Russia did something dirty, like meddle in our elections and then lie about it, that it helped their cause and Trump's cause. I mean face it, Trump was literally impeached over the Russia and Ukraine shit that was going on. Trump tried to blackmail Zelensky (withhold weapons to fight Russians) in a quid-pro-quo to get dirt on Joe Biden for the 2020 election coming up. There is a phone call to prove it. The Dems were on Ukraine's side and the Republicans were on Russia's side. And this lasted up until 2 weeks ago. Putin was still being praised by Tucker Carlson and Donald Trump and most of the FOX viewers. They said Putin is a "genius" and a "peacekeeper." And despite Russia building up their military all along Ukraine's borders for a month, Republicans said they were on Russia's side and that Putin wouldn't really start a war with Ukraine. Even the Ukrainian people called a Russian invasion "fake news" that only Biden believed. So there you go. That's why. :)

[Kenzy009]

I as a Trump supporter never belived Putin helped us in the elections. The fact that he got impeaced says nothing about the truth. He only got impeached because there was more democrats in congress. Yes Putin is smart, do you want me to lie?

[supercutebutt]

@Kenzy009 Putin isn't smart. The whole world thinks he is a fucked up maniac.

[ninaneedshelp]

I agree with @heartache0405, @RationalMale and @genericname85.

[ObscuredBeyond]

Putin is only gaining begrudging support, because of the futility of Demoncraps to hide the fact that they are using children's hospitals in Ukraine to experiment on bioweapons the likes of which make Saddam look like Mother Theresa - as well as using deep-underground military bases to keep that Epstein child sex trafficking ring BS alive and well.

Putin's whole reason for invading, is because he gave an ultimatum to Ukraine: stop the genocide of the Donbass region, and there'd be no war. Zelensky, an actor with zero qualification to lead anything, instead went on to declare he'd double down on genocide efforts, stating that children would be targets "so that ethnic Russians in Ukraine have no future."

It'd be like you telling someone to stay out of your bedroom. They not only break in and steal everything: they rape your sister for good measure! How are you going to react? Putin's reaction is entirely understandable.

The side subverting free election results it doesn't like, diddling kids, and making aerosolized rabies grenades and trying to invent a new super covid to replace the now-irrelevant version, is typically not what any sane individual would declare to be the "right side of history" - let alone eternity!

So why did Biden sell us a pack of lies in the State of the Union address? Simple: Because a good lot of Congress today, in both major parties, is corrupt to the core. Their money laundering (and kids to diddle) are in Ukraine!

They hated Trump, because he shut down their kids-to-diddle Chinese operation in a port in San Fran. They hate Putin, because he's doing the same thing in Ukraine.

These are pedophiles who belong decapitated, sloppily, with a dull axe, telling you that Putin is the bad guy - and that your children should somehow go off to war and fight and die, just to stick it to the man that took away their child sex livestock!

[noless10in]

As a conservative I do not think at all that Putin is getting more support from folks from the right. I think it's more that we are not buying into the old poor pitiful democracy of Ukraine because Ukraine is not a democracy first of all. Myself and a group of friends were discussing as soon as Joe Biden lifted the sanctions on the Nordstrom 2 pipeline that Trump had placed on there to keep Russia in check listing of sanctions allowing the pipeline to continue open the door for this aggression from Russia. Ukraine is a cutoff point a choke point for Russia because Russia is dependent on Ukraine's infrastructure to move it s petroleum and natural gas. This is not a NATO country fighting for its freedom and democracy and civil rights being attacked by scary communist country. Ukraine is actually known as one of the most corrupt governments in the world just ask our president and his son they are well versed in the back door dealings of Ukraine. So no it's not about supporting Putin or Russian it's more about not buying in to the narrative that Ukraine is a poor democracy being attacked because that is as far from the truth as you could possibly get.

[ODC2112]

This is an list of what is in most of cases a Putin supporter (puppet). If you count you could see that there are many common points between Putin supporters and Trump supporters, but some are also points of American left.

Putin's supporter is against the Euro.
Putin's supporter is against the European Union, he supports its disintegration to the advantage of the Russians.
Putin's supporter is against vaccines, not just the coronavirus one.
Putin's supporter refuses to wear the mask indoors or on public transport.
Putin's supporter has a utilitarian view of religion in which God is a merchant and since he prays God must give the beggar some advantages.
Putin's supporter hates Israel and loves the Palestinians and deep down he has the same ideas as Hitler even if he doesn't manifest them publicly.
Putin's supporter is an enemy of NATO.
Putin's supporter hates science.
Putin's supporter is against nuclear energy for his country.
Putin's supporter is against genetically modified organisms.
Putin's supporter has systematic support for problematic countries like Iran, China and North Korea or has indirect support.
Putin's supporter sees the US as potentially guilty of any traumatic event in world history.
Putin's supporter speaks by slogans.
Putin's supporter is a constant victim.
Putin's supporter is constantly criticizing the establishment.
Putin's supporter is against the cultivation of genetically modified organisms.
Putin's supporter is in favor of organic cultures.
Putin's supporter never looks at the facts, all his speeches are emotional and speak to people's bellies.
Putin's supporter is a megalomaniac nationalist.
Putin's supporter hate free market.
Putin's suppoter hate free speech.
Putin's supporters adore a strong leader.

[hahahmm]

Support? That would imply conservatives sending money, weapons, volunteer fighters. That's not happening. What's happening is that conservatives don't blindly believe 100% of what liberal controlled western media says.

I would bet that if forced to choose between the U. S. fighting Russia or Russia taking over multiple western countries, 99% of conservatives would pick a fight. Liberals would be hugging their knees and worrying about a nuclear war tho. Libs sure have fallen a lot since JFK.

[AviatorTom]

Most Americans, conservatives, independents and liberals, do not support Putin's invasion of the Ukraine.

However, most conservatives (compared to liberals) can understand why Putin wants to takeover Ukraine:
1. For security reasons, as a defensive buffer between Russia and NATO.
2. Putin grew up in the Soviet Union and was a key player in the KGB. He'd like to re-establish the USSR's boundaries for Russia.

Some liberals (and the liberal media in particular) interpret conservatives' "understanding" of Putin's actions as "support" for Putin, and that is grossly incorrect.

[RolandCuthbert]

Well, "White" nationalism is the underpinning to the debate.

I don't understand why racists here think that racism forms some kind of ideological bond with Russian nationalism. But I guess they feel that because Putin isn't liberal there is some common ground. Two things are wrong with that reasoning.

1. Russians are not going to stop being Russian in order to become "White". They know their culture is very different from "White" American Culture.

2. And any member of the supposed "White" race that is married to their culture is considered to be a liberal. Racists demand loyalty to race over culture.

[normalice]

The right and right leaning establishment have a lot of business ties with Russia. Indeed, that's the only reason we haven't just sent the army to Ukraine like we did Kosovo. The prospect of WWIII isn't actually a deterrent, as we're well aware Russia and Russia's allies would lose that war pretty quickly - there's like 100 oligarchs we take out and then the war is over. But then what? Then the largest country in the world by land mass would be simultaneously brainwashed and headless. It would be nation building task from hell. The reason why the russian oligarchs get away with so much is because they have carved out a niche for themselves and effectively forced the country, and arguably the world, to depend on their existence. The right just saw less of a problem with this than the left, since it aligned with their political philosophy anyway, so they have a harder time letting go.

[Wade12345]

They love Putin because they are stupid.

Democrats reject all morality, because most of them are Atheists, so you can't trust anything most Democrats say or do.

On the other hand, Republicans just do whatever they think makes them more money personally, so if they think making alliances with Putin makes more money (like Donald Trump) they'll do that. They like to claim to be "christians" all the while disregarding Biblical commandments from one cover to the other of the Bible; Donald Trump being a prime example, claiming the Bible was his favorite book all the while slandering people even in his own party, and committing Adultery at least 4 times that we know about not to mention however many prostitutes he's hired in his life.

It all goes back to PEOPLE REJECTING GOD on both political parties.

[bamesjond0069]

Why are people like you very obsessed with Trumps personal sins? So you never sinned and therefore should be president? Is only Jesus qualified for political office? God has often had some of the biggest sinners make the biggest positive impacts on earth, any "Christian" who ever read the Bible would know that. But if course most "Christians" have not read the Bible and thus we get dumb comments like yours.

[Wade12345]

@bamesjond0069

1) i'm not a christian, I'm a Deist.
2) I've read the Bible more than most Christian Pastors. I've even read the bible more than the Catholic Pope. If he'd ever read the Bible even one time He'd fully excommunicate lgbtqs from the church the way early christians did.
3) There's not a single case of any unrepentant, habitual sinner being used for anything good in the Bible. There are plenty cases of God KILLING sinners even on their first offense.

[bamesjond0069]

3. Paul was a persecutor of Christians until he changed his life around. A super obvious mainstream example. If you really read the Bible you should be aware of quite a few more.

[Wade12345]

@bamesjond0069

Paul was a false prophet, as were all of the other "New Testament" authors.

For example, one of the Pauline letters he even claims "God' is going to release him from prison. That never happened. He was decapitated by the Romans BECAUSE of the fact he was a self-confessed murderer, which according to the Hebrew Bible also disqualified him from any office of leadership, as he should have been put to death immediately according to Genesis, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.

[bamesjond0069]

1. Your logic doesn't flow. Christians shouldn't like Trump because Jews shouldn't like Trump. This is essentially your argument. Its not logical.

2. The OT does have sinners and generally problem people as well who were important people such as King David. So again, even if we were to completely patch up your faulty logic, the OT also supports the idea imperfect people can do great things.

[BluishGaze]

Uh... I do not know any "right-wingers" that support Putin.

I've looked at many, and they all seem to condemn the man. This David Pakman fellow didn't really show any clips or examples in this video, so I'm going by what I've seen. So far nothing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I feel like this started with Donald Trump "praising" Putin's invasion of Ukraine. I've seen the interview people sourced and it was kind of clear that he wasn't pro-Putin. So this "right-wing-pro-putin" claim seems rather sketchy to me.

Also, "imperialist, autocrat and authoritarianism" can be attributed to Stalin and Mao, right? I'm pretty sure they were not exactly "right-wing," but I could be wrong.

[lightbulb27]

I think it’s perception. Left views Putin as a tyrant and bully and they hate bullies, hate evil power and want him sent back or probably removed due to his quest to rebuild Russian empire… eg motive is more power and ego. I think they think he will go home or be killed and that’s how this ends. I do not see their concern for how bad this can go not so unlike mr bushs falsely justified attack on iraq. Thus I don’t think it is right and left line but a circle. Lindsey graham may be in this side.


The other side sees motive as some legitimate national security issues in Russia side and concern how bad this can go w a nuclear power. After all… if the concern is security and not ego… if it’s do or die for Russia including his own ego… then he won’t and can’t back off… that can go nuclear and global in a flash.

[goaded]

The left wing didn't support the Iraq war. Some Democrats did.

[jshm2]

You think wrong, then. Russia has no history of slavery or imperialism - it's not an expansionist. Nor does it have autocrats, sure they are not fully democratic, but they are within the rules. Nor are they very much into what Western hacks would define as authoritarianism. They just don't take shit, and suffer fools like Western systems do.

As for your premise. The Right support whoever the Left doesn't, it's as simple as that. You are just overthinking it. If the left support God, the right would the devil.

[maverick2022]

I totally disagree with your view that the right is more authoritarian as this is the type of behavior I usually see coming from the left. It's nothing new, the left has been accusing the right of the things which they themselves do since the beginning. Putin advocates traditional values and he's a conservative nationalist. He represents many of the ideals that the right wants and which are basically disappearing from the world. The right is stupid though because they don't realize Putin is a pathological liar and just doing this to gain support. This is evidence to me that the right is basically desperate at this point. All the social media, tech companies, mainstream news, universities, "grassroots" organizations (funded by billionaires), are all run by leftists. The general trend in society is everything becoming more leftist.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Actually the major right wing political party in the US (GOP) is an authoritarian outlier:

www.vox.com/.../republicans-supreme-court-gop-trump-authoritarian

[maverick2022]

I'm just going by the attitudes of people that I've seen personally. I believe the GOP knows that it is not a level playing field and they know the left has the power of the media and tech companies on their side. They are therefor forced into a position that they have to take more extreme measures to compensate. I mean, Twitter canceled Trump's account and Google modified search results for years in attempt to sway the election. That's to say nothing about mainstream news (propaganda) companies.

[UdontNeedtoknow]

Your a moron. Trump supporters like myself are not Putin lovers. We just see through the bullshit that media propagandist like yourself spew out. Trump had this whole situation in control. Once Biden was installed, the war pigs pushed the situation till Putin couldn't take it anymore. Fact is that Democrats and the deep state have been push for war in Ukraine to take it's resources since the Maindan revolution in 2014. Funny how Un-Democratic party members like yourself seem to forget about the misery you guys have caused with the disastrous Afghanistan pull out. This only weakened and demoralized our military.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

A Taliban takeover of Afghanistan was inevitable since 2003 and I didn't say most Trump supporters like Putin, but there are more people who support Putin on the right than the left.

[UdontNeedtoknow]

No it wasn't. Our politicians lost the war by pushing agenda's the Afghani people would never accept. Trump had a good plan to leave enough mercenaries to protect Kabul and strike back at the Taliban when they violated the agreement.

[youreanidiot2]

It's total bullshit because:
1. EVERYTHING russia has said about this war is a lie. this is a lie/conspiracy theory is designed to make their invasion appear justified, as if an American attack with bio weapons was imminent.
2. the US doesn't develop bio/chemical weapons and has no program that does.
3. no country (with the possible exception of russia or other terror states) currently develops bio weapons for simple reasons: you can't confine and control spread of a virus and it would eventually spread to your own people. and chemical weapons kill civilians, not armies equipped with gas masks.

That bitch from gravitas is irresponsible as hell for spreading russian propaganda.

[youreanidiot2]

opps, wrong question answered. ignore.

[OpenClose]

Simply put, Biden is president. They don't like Biden. So they are all about seeing the country lose so that they can blame him for it.

If Trump were president, everything would play out largely the same except our cooperation with NATO would probably be in shambles. But then everyone's opinions would have been the exact opposite. Or at least Trump supporters' opinions would be the exact opposite.

[Snakeyes7]

The "putin is a genius" thing is as truthful and as the time the MSM said that Trump said that Mexicans are rapists and that Nazis are fine people.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-putin-savvy-genius/

"Trump referring to Putin as “savvy” and “genius” does not necessarily mean that the 45th president condoned the invasion of Ukraine. In a subsequent interview with Fox News, he said that the invasion was “something that should never have happened,” reported Politico. (He also stated that the conflict would not have happened if he were still president.) "

[Kiss_Me]

What an absolutely STUPID post.

Trumpist do not love Putin. However, those that hate Trump love to accuse them of doing so.
Stop spreading hate and Russian propaganda. It is exactly this type of rhetoric that emboldened Putin in the first place.
Stop drinking the Kool-aid, and start thinking for yourself.

[Guy13]

Somebody is going to have to drag us out of the BIDEN economy. Oil drilling and pipeline building, defense spending, NASA 🚀 ….
No offense but I’m thinking you do not know much about how 💰 💵 Works. FYI, COVID was a 🎁 from the Left as everyone knows they love 💗 their drug monies and drug companies ‼️

[Heartache0405]

I don’t believe that’s true. Putin is a communist. The right oppose communists. The left likes to manipulate everything. I consider myself right wing and I oppose Putin completely. He’s a tyrannical communist. Same as Xi and Biden.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

How is Putin a communist?

[Heartache0405]

If he were a fascist and not a communist than he wouldn’t be buddy buddy with Xi and the Communist government of China. Example, Russian Banks to switch to Chinese payment system UnionPay after Visa and MasterCard suspend operations in Russia. www.opindia.com/.../

Why would a fascist and a communist get along together? Unless they’re both communists... That’s the only thing that would make sense

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Ever heard of a "marriage of convenience"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrrZowxb60

[Heartache0405]

Former Soviet Boss Gorbachev Says Putin Is More Communist Than He Was : thenewamerican.com/.../

[goaded]

So why was Trump such a fan?

[Heartache0405]

I’m pretty sure he wasn’t. But if I were him I’d stay respectful of my enemies to avoid any conflict unlike Biden and the democrats/liberals/leftists who would rather threaten or at the very least do whatever they can to show that they hate him and hope he dies. Keep your friends close, enemies closer. That’s Trump. And I believe that that’s a smart tactic

[goaded]

Wasn't Flynn convicted for telling Russia they'd reduce sanctions if Trump was elected?

[CasaNorba]

the right is more aware of the global elites and their nwo agendas more than the left and they the global elites themselves hate Putin for a reason. Putin always sounded like he was more action than talk and isn't never been afraid to confront those who condone the nwo, the fact that the Rothschild no longer have control of Russia's central bank speaks for itself

[RationalMale]

Source on who on the right loves putin?

Liberals want to write articles or such claiming the right loves putin. Then they can't actually back up their lies with anything aside from their opinions.

[Jackblue]

Trump is more of a paleoconservative than a neoconservative. However, you are forgetting all the people on the left who amid a million injustices over there they focus on the handful people of color in the Ukraine. African countries refuse to condemn Putin but are railing on about their expats. Can the left stand for people of color not to be the victims for five minutes.

[Crucis84]

David Pakman is a clown, doing his part in making our clown-world evermore absurd and surreal.
If an unbiased, impartial assessment of the "right" (whatever that is) is your goal, then it would help to use a source that isn't so obviously biased, so intent on pushing a particular political worldview.

[Kiran_Yagami]

He isn't getting any support from the right or the left. What's really happening is that the left is all in for the Ukraine, giving 100% of their support, and the right doesn't give a damn about the Ukraine, giving very little support. So what? We don't have to care about the Ukraine. They can suck my dick.

[Kenzy009]

I am on the right and I will say he does get more support from us. Because the western leaders are all pretty much leftists at this point. The right views their enemies as thier own leaders. Purtin has critized the wokeness and shown his support for president Trump so he could be on our side

[Mac-One]

@Kenzy009 Putin did not support Trump, he just respected Trump.

[Mac-One]

@Kenzy009 Putin knows that Biden is a push over and incompetent.

[007kingifrit]

he isn't. find me a credible (right wing) source showing support for putin

all you can find is left wingers saying right wingers support

IN REALITY what you would actually find is that right wingers have a deep understand of the geopolitical nature of putin's actions and nod not in approval, but understanding

[TheMVPofGaG]

trump has a huge influence over republicans and he did call Putin a genius. To me, Putin is more of a very mentally ill man, but I feel like there's definitely more to any support he may be receiving than just one comment from Donald

[Mac-One]

@TheMVPofGaG Just because you call somebody a genius does not mean that you support them or agree with them. It was Hillary who colluded with Putin against Trump during the 2020 election and then accused Trump of doing it.

[TheMVPofGaG]

@Mac-One You're right, I'm pretty sure he called the invasion a disaster, but blaming it on Biden (when he claimed that the election was stolen and if it wasn’t, Russia would not have attacked Ukraine) is kind of a stretch and is insensitive, making this about his previous election when people are dying, not that I much like Biden as a president, though.

[Mac-One]

@TheMVPofGaG Biden is just a puppet of the left, he is not capable of doing anything on his own.

[TheMVPofGaG]

@Mac-One what do you mean by of the left?

[Zenit93]

Democrats in this day and age push price controls and more stringent authoritative fiscal policy. Right-wingers tend to love de-regulation. Why would right wingers love authoritative policy in Europe if they actively oppose it here?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

"Price controls" aren't authoritarian as long as the government is enforcing those transactions. That's like saying "minimum wage" and "workers rights" are authoritarian.

[Zenit93]

When price controls are enacted, supply and demand equilibrium is thrown off. Rent control for example creates shortages in which other people pay that burden. Then further more action needs to be taken to cover the sector of the market which is burdened. It turns into a micro command economy. Strict rent control in my opinion is insane considering it creates shortages and we already have a massive housing shortage. Republican fiscal policy has a hands off approach. That’s what I prefer. The market regulates itself.

[Zenit93]

Democrats push contractionary policy with a lot of control and regulation. I’d consider that to be more authoritative.

[Zenit93]

Something else democrats are doing are imposing negative externality controls by regulating firms to an even greater extent.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Markets don't lead to an equilibrium on their own.

[Zenit93]

They actually do. There are ebbs and flows to any market, but supply and demand achieves equilibrium without regulation. Take commodities with inelastic supply. Consider…. Gold or Wheat. It’s widely known and accepted that most firms in the US are price takers and therefore respond and produce to scale of the demand.

[Zenit93]

I’ll pull out pictures of my freshman economics class during undergraduate if you need me to.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Wow, you got pictures huh. Well college isn't kindergarten and if you actually read the text of an intro to economics course, you'd have read about market inefficiencies; inefficiencies that government regulation helps to smooth out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UouXK0Y0-ZM&t=101s

[Zenit93]

I have a degree in economics. This is what I do for living. Yes there are plenty of market inefficiencies. Agriculture is a great example of what you just stated about smoothing things out. That still doesn’t negate what was stated about market equilibriums and most firms in the US being processed takers.

[Zenit93]

Price *

[Zenit93]

Where do you think agricultural subsidies come from? You take from one sector, and give to another. Money is fluid. The demand still doesn’t match the supply during particular seasons for agriculture. The market isn’t at equilibrium when government subsidies are granted. They just allow farmers to survive.

[Zenit93]

And when I say pictures, I mean taking pictures of the text to post them here 😂

[Zenit93]

I mean do you really believe that the average Republican voters in this country support civilian casualties? This rant is emotionally driven, and lacks rationality. The exhausting binary cheerleading with social political judo is ridiculous. What a vague pile of nothing conclusion you came up with here. I prefer to attach data sets and logic to my analysis in which policies are best suited for the time. Republicans = Evil and Democrats = Good. Give me a break.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

What you said about "market equilibrium" doesn't mean that without government intervention, it results in the most favorable outcome for the average citizen. And I didn't say that most Republicans support Putin; way to make a strawman.

[Zenit93]

Sure, but who’s the arbiter of what’s the most favorable outcome. History shows that’s humans are very poor at replicating natural economic forces hence why most command economies have so many issues. Also, with so much deceit from policy makers, I believe a hands off approach allowing the market to do its things is optimal.

Straw man? Your question literally states why does Putin get support from the right. Then you go on a rant using words like authoritarianism.

[Zenit93]

Sure, the word most could have been a dubious interpretation and error on my end. When you describe the opinion of an entire subset of people, I assume you’re speaking about the average rather than the few.

[katiesmuff]

He is not getting much support from either party and the few he is getting it from are total nutbags in general with nobody paying any attention to them.

[demonics]

Why is David Pakman so often cited by people on this site? He just reads establishment propaganda and doesn't bother accounting for his own biases. All of these former TYT people do this save for Dore (wonder why)?

[VanillaSalt]

I just want him to nuke this fucking country already. The fact is fuck all y’all on both sides. I’ve been screwed and ignored by the left and the right so I’ll watch you all burn lol.

[Goforit1010]

Where's your basis for that idea - that the "right" is somehow "supporting" Putin?

That must be what the View girls are saying or CNN. S-M-H...

[Cubus]

He is not right and he is not left. He's just authoritarian and authoritarianism isn't only on the right. Communist countries like China, Vietnam, or Cuba are authoritarian. Besides Putin is a big fan of Soviet Union which was definitely left wing

[MuddyMole]

"The enemy of my enemy (Biden) is my friend". A small number of republicans just take that logic to very extreme lengths.

[Balbal]

Is that too late if Ukraine can get all the support from every single countries to force Russia to stop war and negotiate instead in no war zone like poor nations. It is quite clear that Russia going to win.

[allison368]

Based on what I have seen; Putin is getting more support from the left.

[allison368]

With the democrats it is never about whether you are right or wrong but about how you place the blame. The democrats always manage to blame the republicans for their incorrect thoughts and actions. Examples: Hillary colluded with Russia against Trump and managed to accuse Trump of colluding with Russia; Trump requested Pelosi to activate the National Guard prior to January 6 which she did not do and then managed to blame Trump for the crowd's actions; democrats promoted slavery and racism and always blame the republicans; and many other similar situations.

[ticonderoga2]

That is all true. Democrats in general and all their followers who have no regret for supporting Biden just blame everything on Trump. He had 4 years, in their deluded minds, they can't figure out that 8 years of Obama trumped 4 years of Trump, then 1 year of Biden, I mean it's simple math. Who fucked up what?

[Mac-One]

@ticonderoga2 Obama spent most of his first 2 years blaming Bush for everything that went wrong. Biden is just repeating the same.

[ticonderoga2]

@Mac-One When Bush was president that was still the day when being apolitical and not giving a shit was a thing. Obama is irrelevant in those regards.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

@Mac-One You have forgotten the Democratic Mantra for ALL question that they don't like to answer DEFLECT DEFLECT, DEFLECT and, DEFELECT or ignore it like our Southern open border. Why Putin is acting like Biden both mentally challenged lying and blaming everyone else because both have a mental a problem. in fact, most left leaning Democrats seem to have mental health problems Called TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROM, weather he did or not he gets the blame

[ticonderoga2]

@DARKCLOUD1945X I agree, their heads are up their own assholes. They don't see that California and Democrat run shitholes are to blame for everything that is wrong in this day age. There is a reason why they are fleeing to Red areas. They want their cake and eat it too, while they keep their idiotic values with them. 2022 will be telling. Interesting year we have here. Something will make them think differently, or they remain dumb, and Trump will always be a presence, rent free and becoming for popular than ever. Then when they all figure out they are in the wrong which they should have done after they voted for Obama once, they will be regretting their ways for their entire life times.

[DARKCLOUD1945X]

@ticonderoga2 Well said

[ragooo8]

Do they? You realise Biden and b4 him Obama pursued foreign policies of imperialism. How authoritian is the federal government under Biden and Obama?

[goaded]

Which countries has the United States claimed as part of the US?

[ragooo8]

@goaded Iraq, Afghanistan. The majority of Mexico. Hawaii, the Philippines, Panama

[goaded]

Nope.

[ragooo8]

@goaded yep. California, new Mexico, arizona, texas are part of Mexico. The US invaded the Philippines b4 ww1 and claimed it as their own. Iraq is run by the US, American companies are contracted to rebuild Iraq using iraqi money...

[goaded]

Ah, you're talking about back when Russia was a monarchy, and lying about Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, and Panama.

[ragooo8]

@goaded all true. Those countries are vassal countries or Client States.

[jamesgoldman]

Do you need a lesson on numismatics to show you that rags correct, Goaded well at least on Panama and the Philippines for sure

[goaded]

@jamesgoldman They're all US citizens, now, are they? The citizens of Iraq, Afghanistan, the Philippines, and Panama? Hawaii is, but the invasion was in 1898, not 1989. Vermont, Texas and California were also independent countries absorbed into the US.

Next thing, someone will suggest Russia should take back Alaska.

[jamesgoldman]

Panama was controlled by the US between WW1 up to the 50's and the Philippines was from 1898 to 1946

[goaded]

@jamesgoldman You know that the early 20th century, let alone the 19th century, was a lot different to today, right?

[jamesgoldman]

Yeah the currency was still real and not the new age junk... hell the newest stuff doesn't even exist

[Anonymous]

Should stop telling other people what they think.

I don't know any trump supporter who like Putin, they simply are not obsessed with him.

[Medhat-M]

Not from the US but I can imagine their answer... " because he's an alpha male who gets things done " hahaha

[GMANN56]

I don't think he is getting support from anyone. ESPECIALLY not the right.

[888theGreat]

I don't think is true. He is a strong leader that gets things done and he betters Russia up until now.

[Sabretooth]

they need to be be subjugated. studies show that most republicans are more submissive... in need of a protector.

[RobertGgg]

Trump was the only guy who negotiated with Putin and respected him and he respected Trump also Trump was the only president in the 21t century that Russia didn't invade anyone under!

[Wise4myage]

Wow, there sure some very misinformed people on this question.

[OddBeMe]

Simply because Trump supports him. So his supporters love him.

[supercutebutt]

Basically true.

[Iron_Man]

He’s not getting support from Americans murdering people

[NewtoTheSouth]

Republicans aren't imperialist though. They want to minimize America's role abroad, such as in the Ukraine.

[bigslab]

Arguing with a right winger is like arguing with a flat earther

[nawtee_me]

I do not know a single American that likes Putin or agrees with anything he does.

[Mac-One]

@nawtee_me Apparently you haven't seen the views of some of the radical left democrats.

[Quigly]

Democrats are currently adopting Trump policies against Putin.

[noohair]

What Putin is doing is dictatorial, not right wing.

[Gwenhwyfar]

I agree with you. Putin is not a leftist.

[Dargil]

Define Right and Left for me.

[goaded]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics

[Dargil]

@goaded Can you believe anything political that Wiki says? And I did not ask you. I asked the poster.

[goaded]

Yes, actually, you can. Why don't you point out something the articles are wrong about?

[Dargil]

@goaded I did not make an assertion. I asked a question.

[goaded]

And I answered it. What's your problem?

"Right-wing politics is generally defined by support of the view that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable, typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics, authority or tradition. Hierarchy and inequality may be seen as natural results of traditional social differences or competition in market economies. Right-wing politics are considered the counterpart to left-wing politics, and the left–right political spectrum is one of the most widely accepted political spectrums."

"Left-wing politics support social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition of social hierarchy. Left-wing politics typically involve a concern for those in society whom its adherents perceive as disadvantaged relative to others as well as a belief that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished. According to emeritus professor of economics Barry Clark, left-wing supporters "claim that human development flourishes when individuals engage in cooperative, mutually respectful relations that can thrive only when excessive differences in status, power, and wealth are eliminated.""

[Dargil]

@goaded I can't remember having one.

[CloudMassacre]

Putin isn’t very nice to The Gays

[John_Doesnt]

Trump loved Putin and Trump supporters love Putin.

[Mac-One]

@John_Doesnt B. S., Trump respected Putin but did not support him. Trump also tried to maintain an open dialog with Putin for the sake of our country.

[John_Doesnt]

@Mac-One Trump complimented Putin's invasion, calling it genius. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsTH-WqbEu8

[SmokinAces2000]

Because Trump loved Putin

[jimmy2]

Well it still bad what he doing in this war