"Is what the US and its allies are trying to accomplish in Ukraine worth continually risking nuclear war with Russia?

[msc545]

[MrCommodore]

Is what Russia's trying to accomplish worth the risk of facing the full wrath of the West long-term?

Vladimir Putin will be 70 next October, his administration is made up of people who are afraid to challenge him or disagree with him, anyone who did was already removed.

Ukrainian people should be free to choose, and the vast majority currently prefer to be part of the EU, so Russia invaded and illegally annexed large regions.

[EnglishEuropean]

What are they trying to accomplish?

[msc545]

They're trying to accomplish profits for defense contractors

[EnglishEuropean]

True dat.

[EnglishEuropean]

Thanks for MHO!

[888theGreat]

we are heading towards World War. Russia , China , and India told america to shove US dollar up our ass. Economy in US could get worse than Russia's. Russians can go without and Americans are too spoiled. After 2 weeks , Americans will burn down Washington DC.

[Juxtapose]

The thing is nations are going to change hands from time to time with humanity being as it is. Unless you have a strict, global government regulating things then invasions are just going to happen.

Why worry about how the lines are drawn on maps? The USA has suffered devastating military catastrophes lately and we really need to lay off military action for a good 20 or 30 years.

[goaded]

What do you think they want to achieve?

I think it's a continuation of the decades of peace and prosperity in Europe.

Nuclear weapons have always been a bit rubbish. When do you use them?

[Sargentcaptain]

The Ukraine situation won't turn into global, let alone nuclear, conflict. And, yeah, the independence of our allies is worth risking war. Too many retarded Americans just don't understand what an invasion truly is nor have Americans ever faced an existential crisis since they've gotten their independence. To these pieces of shit, independence is something that isn't worth anything, especially when it's the independence of other nations far away.

[msc545]

Ukraine is not a US ally. Also - this just happened: "President Biden announced he will activate $800 million more in security assistance “to help Ukraine fend off Russia’s assault.” He outlined the new assistance package that will include anti-aircraft systems and drones to help fend off Russian attacks."

[Sargentcaptain]

Strictly technically, on the ally list, Ukraine falls in the same category as the Netherlands, Spain and Italy. Also, good.

[msc545]

Nope.

[Sargentcaptain]

And why is that?

[msc545]

Because historically, Ukraine was just a part of Russia, and we didn't and do not have the same historical ties and financial ties to it that we do to the countries you mentioned. The US is keeping this war going solely to increase the profits of the Big 5 US weapons makers,

("Manufactured by US weapons manufacturers Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, the Javelin costs $178,000, including the launch system and missile, according to the Pentagon's 2021 budget. Each replacement missile costs around $78,000.")

and for political reasons, so Biden can get re-elected. Otherwise, the US does not give a shit about Ukraine.

[msc545]

Oh yes, and curse at me on my own question, and you get deleted.

[DiegoO]

Putin is not stopping, despite the risk of entering a WW3. In his mind Ukraine is Russia; in his mind, he'll defend "Russia" against who ever tries to stop him. He's delusional.

[msc545]

He is not delusional at all.

[tartaarsaus]

Considering the risk of actual nuclear war remains incredibly low, yes.

[exitseven]

Having a ruler who invades a neighboring country with the intention of taking it over cannot be tolerated. I think the US will be able to turn Russia to glass before Putin gets off a single missile.

[msc545]

I think not. Russia has the same "fire on detection" systems that the US has.

[exitseven]

yes, but ours's works.

[msc545]

I am unwilling to stake my life on the hope that theirs will not work.

[exitseven]

I would bet even money that Putin's button is really connected to the lights on the Kremlin.

[msc545]

I trust you are not serious.

[exitseven]

I might be.

[msc545]

nah!

[Jamie05rhs]

Are you Putin's bitch?

[DaveToo]

Fuck Russia and their little dick-tater.