In 1997, in The Grand Chessboard, the American strategist Zbigniew Brzezinski, already explained that Eurasia being the main stake for America, Russia, should be contained and deprived of control of Ukraine so that it does not become again never a great Eurasian power and ceases to be an empire.
The American hyperpower, winner of the Cold War, had to prevent any “anti-hegemonic” alliance, in particular Russian-European.
Brzezinski advocated supporting the forces and states formerly occupied by the Soviet Union or its allies, particularly targeting Poland, the Baltic States, Romania, and above all Ukraine, described as the strategic lock intended to "prevent Russian expansion in his near abroad.
Hence his suggestion to finance the anti-Russian forces in western Ukraine in order to make Moscow lose control of this pivotal country between Russia, Europe and the Mediterranean (via the Crimea, the Black Sea and the Turkish Straits).
the hypothesis of an "invasion" of Ukraine by the Russian army and its consequences in terms of indirect US-Russian confrontation have raised the apocalyptic specter of a generalized NATO/US-Russia conflict. This scenario is of course almost impossible, given the principle of nuclear deterrence.
Interestingly enough, Napoleon himself in his time dreamed of making Ukraine a "Barrier" state. he said that this state would allow one of the most important barriers to Russian ambitions and claims on the Black Sea, Bosphorus.
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We always fought against Russia in our history, they've always been nothing but oppurtunistic jackals, they provoked our minorities and caused them to rebel against us then they sold them guns&supplies in return of it. They declared war on us whenever we were usually already dealing with rebellions and crusades, at the end we killed that oppurtunistic Bear on 1915 with our sharp steel. Well actually we didn't kill directly but when they had a civil war, they just only had 1 way to get support from by the allied powers, and it was Allied Powers passing from the Gallipoli. They couldn't and the Tsardom Of Russia died.
For a long time they tried to deal with small countries like Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, Estonia, Afghanistan and such. They couldn't get any major success, I don't see them as a big threat.. they just have human power, strong rockets that's right but most of their equipment is old and they are left from USSR times. If Europe or allies of Ukraine threat Russia, they won't have balls to move a muscle.
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Brzezinski, was largely full of shit and zionist to boot. He is largely the reason the Israeli occupation never turned into a full democracy. He was a staunch anti-Soviet and it's why Carter liked him.
America never was a hyperpower, nor was it a winner in the cold war. The Soviet counterbalance being removed meant it was largely a useless superstate with no overall purpose other than as a global consumer market. It instead went on to become as bad as the Soviet union itself with no one to oppose it directly.
The current problem in Ukraine is mostly of US and UK making. Both states want to deflect from their problems at home by creating a Cuban Missile Crisis'esque problem to draw in Russia and China.
Ukraine itself isn't worried as it happily accepts military "aid" from the West.
Invading entire Ukraine would be stupid. Maybe Putin is an Idiot? In this case Ukraine would change into an uncontrollable asymmetric conflict, with NATO support for Ukrainian insurgents. However destabilization, attempts for government change and partial invasion are possible. The longer Putin waits, the more modern anti-tank weapons obtains Ukraine, the higher will be death toll of Russians if they decide to attack.
Yeap. It'll be after a false flag event that killed Russians or destroyed Russian property, or it'll be when another war breaksout, likely between China and Taiwan, when most nations are prepping for that war as they can't fight China and its allies, and stop Russia from invading at the same time.
my view is that Putin will aim for claiming the separatist areas and the coast area to link in the Crimea.
The Dnieper river is a natural front line and would give Russia some major goals of controlling the Black Sea with their warm sea ports (wanted for 100’s years).
I don’t believe they will however as no one can sustain a modern war for a long period. Also NATO are watching the Atlantic more than the Ukraine.
The Atlantic has always been key to any war in Europe, I can see another Cuban style ‘do not cross this line’ scenario when the US tries to deploy armour to Europe. That would give the Russians ‘justification’.
I watched a Webinar about the post-soviet space and the situation of the Ukraine yesterday (well respected academics on the matter).
The consensus was that the Russian Federation will not attack but will do everything in It's power to maintain their vital space (Lebensräum in German) which includes the Ukraine.
There are a lot of energy considerations, like the Nordstream II and the usual threats on gas. Or Putin's aspirations on the Soviet space, which is not homogenous!
But the fact of the matter is Putin does not want the Ukraine to fall into the EU's or NATO's orbit, and short of a war, it will do everything in his power to keep the status quo, at the very least.
I wanted doubt it what wrist did they take especially with Joe Biden as president we’re talking Trump as president yeah they wouldn’t dare. Joe Biden because America is weak under the presidency of Joe Biden or any Democrat yeah they would take Ukraine within a heartbeat sandwich China and Taiwan
I don't think they will, but they may feel forced to. America must stop provoking them for a cassus belli. Fortunately it doesn't look like Biden will fuck this one up, he's handled the superficial negotiation well. The USSR is long dead, NATO should be disbanded anyway. I'd prefer we didn't risk nuclear war.
I doubt that "America"had WON the "cold war". When all other players leave the field - it's just an embarrassment to all who turned up for the game. I don't see Russia INVADING their neighbour. They will -perhaps- simply give support to those who wish for it. And some guys in Ukraine DO feel better with being a part of Russia.
The Soviet Union collapsed under pressure from the West (mainly the U. S.). The Soviet leaders recognized that they would never win an ideological war and couldn't afford to keep waging it. The main reason was that their socialist system didn't produce enough wealth to sustain keeping pace with the U. S. military despite the fact that the west gave them lots of free food each year. Maybe they realized that if the West ever chose to, and cut off food shipments, they would be TOTALLY humiliated.
@hahahmm I see that differently. The U. S. S. R. rather collapsed from within, as the regional interests of its union members became too strong, and the leadership in Moscow became too ''old'' and outdated in their methods. A 'defeat' requires a confrontation. A dog barking madly behind its own fence (oops - I think of border walls right now :) ) is merely a nuisance - but not a force to deal with. Sure - Soviet economy and supplies weren't good at all. But the vision of having burgers or Coca Cola was certainly not the driving idea about the changes that happened there.
Let's go down the road you're going... if the Soviets had not been propping up their military then they would have had a lot more resources to apply to internal intelligence services to keep an uprising from happening. The reason they didn't have enough resources is because the Cold War was a confrontation. Don't think I mentioned burgers/coke.. but since you bring it up: The Eastern Block had to keep their citizens from immigrating by force. The reason is that more people wanted to leave for the West than wanted to stay which was a form of voting against the system. That wouldn't be the case if there was no outside force/challenge to Soviet ideology.
@hahahmm... if we assume that a ''war'' can be won by baiting the opponent's guys with consumer goods - then you may be right. I am more thinking about the direct political and 'military' confrontation in this aspect. So - in a way... the Olympic Games as well were: 'winning the cold war' by getting the gold medals? :) In ''wars'' like that, no mothers need to mourn; I can live with that :D
So let's just ignore all of the actual Cold War proxy wars that killed tens of millions of people and all of the covert direct military battles between Soviet and Western forces like Soviet fighter pilots flying in the Korean war... because it doesn't suit your narrative.
If what you say contradicts actual historical events it's a hint that what you're saying is based on feelings instead of facts. Which isn't to say that everything people put in the history books was true either and some of us know this.
Fact: The Soviet Union does not exist. It did not survive the Cold War. Fact: The U. S. did survive the cold war. Feelings -- well I'm pretty sure you know what a feeling is. If a feeling contradicts reality then it's wrong in the since that it could lead you to make bad decisions/choices based on delusion.
what do you mean will russia take the risk of "invading" ukraine? more like being forced to defend their county from UN missiles that are positioned in ukraine... don't listen to western propaganda. don't listen to russian propaganda. look at the real world and what's happening.
americal plays the global police. the west is not "good". neither is russia. the west "defending" a country is always them going there and wrecking it. look at irak.
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No, Russia is just trying to help this region of Ukraine because this region had been abandoned for several years, it been 7 years there's no Ukrainian bank in this area, everyone pay with Russian money and speak Russia, they want to be independent so Poutine support them. They should just make a referendum asking what this region want and if this region want to be Ukrainian or Russian but Ukraine don't want to cause they want they want to become independent...
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lmfaooooooo ukraine sucksssssssssss hail mother russia
people die that's how life goes on and it was destined for those ukrainians to die like this
If USA continues their lies and wicked aggression against Russia and attempts to make Ukraine another NATO country in spite of their promises not to advance to the East, Russia is going to their butts as well they should.
Hell naw this is just SABRE-RATTLING to divert attention away from their FAILED HOAX of a pandemic. Everyone is onto to their SCAM now so they need a red herring.
no. its already too late. the frozen ground of ukraine will be mud within the next week or so and that means the tanks will get stuck. they would have needed to invade weeks ago
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