What happened to truth social?

[purplepoppy]

Like or loathe Trump I think we can all agree his tweets were entertaining. We all had a good time on GAG discussing them and the mainstream media lapped them up. So when he launched truth social we all expected a steady stream of comments to filter out into the wider media and even on to sites like GAG.
But there's nothing, you don't even hear it mentioned. So what happened to it?

[MrOracle]

I predicted exactly this would happen. Here's why:

1. This kind of thing commonly happens when non-techie people try to do techie things, and don't really understand how it all works. Twitter is a very simple concept, but that doesn't mean that creating the backend that runs it, and can scale to billions of users, is a simple thing. It isn't simple. The people who built it and keep working on it are some of the best folks in the world at doing it. Sure, the political activism of many of those employees is a huge problem, but from a purely technical point of view, they're very good. There aren't tons of people in the world who can do this, and it's not easy to poach them from other companies. Thus, the people hired to build Truth Social aren't likely the top-tier folks.

2. Because these are non-techie people, they tend not to grasp all of the many, many ways they can be sabotaged - and they are a huge political target and a huge target for sabotage. Look at the example of Parlor - those idiots tried to build their platform on AWS, only to have their platform yanked out from under them right as it was taking off. It was OBVIOUS to techie people that this would happen, but the founders didn't want to believe it. They were wrong. Truth Social was a little smarter, trying to do things on their own, but they're still vulnerable to sabotage at every level. Some big-wig makes a call, and suddenly they lose their Internet connection, or they can't buy RAM, or their hard drive shipment is delayed for 3 months, or whatever. There's a huge political machine doing everything it can to stop them, calling in every favor, blocking them at every possible path. They didn't do enough to mitigate that, and they didn't have enough infrastructure built BEFORE they announced their service. They just assumed they could build and grow like other companies, but they can't, because they're a political target, and that political influence is being leveraged against them mightily.

This is exactly why Elon Musk went another way: he just bought a 10% stake in Twitter, making him the single largest shareholder by almost a 5X margin. While this certainly doesn't give him anything like complete control of the company, it's going to give him a LOT of influence. And I wouldn't be shocked if he ends up buying plenty more of this stock. If he owned about 25%, it would be nearly impossible for the company to go against him, because he'd simply control too much voting stock, and could fire the company managers and replace them. Even with 10% ownership, that's still possible, because plenty of other shareholders will vote with him.

It's also why GAB has been building out ALL of its own services, including it's own payment processing, it's own video platform, and more. The CEO is a techy guy who completely understood all of the ways that people would attack his company, and so he's been working to built all of his own services that HE controls so that he doesn't have to rely on anyone else. That's a lot harder and takes a lot longer, but it's the right long-term strategy if you aren't one of the richest people on the planet to start with.

[ohshee]

I'll be 100% honest with you from day one I have not like Trump things I don't like about him is his mouth is arrogance and how he projects himself but I'm going to send you something on this whole pandemic thing and they talked a little bit about Trump I would like to know your opinion how true you think it might be you have very good insight and you see things wave broader than most people and deeper so I'll send you this I hope you watch it all the way through I would love to know your opinion

[ohshee]

https://youtu.be/ZTnr3aYL2J0

[laurieluvsit]

Your countryman Mr Donald only has the app up and running right now, the website will be up in the near future so the big promotion will start at that time and he will begin his affectionate tweets just for you.

So get your Scottish cow patties ready to start slinging soon :) ... lol

What is the difference between a Scottish sheep farmer and a Rolling Stones song?

...“One says, 'Hey you, get off of my cloud!", and the other says, 'Hey McCloud, get off of my ewe!”

[dustybiker]

It’s no fun talking about others people are threatened by if they aren’t present to react. It’s all agreement. That is confusing.

[goaded]

There's a 1.5 million waiting list, the app doesn't work on Android, there's no web interface, and only Americans. What did you expect from Trump?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-60922717

[goaded]

"I found a small clump of angry people shouting into a void. And that’s the sad truth."

www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[Anonymous]

Listen closely my friends. We've reached that evolutionary stage where you should not be put in charge of the government unless you can properly manage the development and distribution of a technical solution. Let me direct you to automated social philosophy; i. e., the Venus Project: https://www.thevenusproject.com/

[Opinion Owner]

@purplepoppy What is on this guy's stomach? What is on this guy's stomach? ↗

[crmoore]

I haven't looked to much into it but apparently he was using open-source code, at least partially, (from Mastodon) which is likely under a GPL or similar open-source license. I'm not overly familiar with these licenses but apparently it could land him in some legal trouble depending on how he goes about using it.

[Red_Arrow]

One of the rules is only the truth may be posted. So Trump is unable to post anything.

[Guido]

Trump happened so it was destined to fail and be another of his bankruptcy business ventures.

[888theGreat]

I can't get it because it is for smart phones and I don't believe Google will let you download it. So the ones against Trump continue to block it. I use a computer , not a phone , so I can't join right now.

[goaded]

It's nothing to do with Google not allowing it, they haven't produced a version for Android. Or browsers (the obvious choice for avoiding "Big Tech").

[legalboxers]

its still there.. the worshippers are sticking to OAN NewsMax and Fox News

[exitseven]

I wonder about this as well. I was looking forward to it.

[goaded]

Buy an Apple phone and download the App!

[spiralshape]

It is only getting backlash because of its political intentions. Much like Gab, Parler, Gettr and MeWe

[spiralshape]

Those are all basically 4chan-lite

[joeldalton]

Elon just bought controlling stock in Twitter. Hopefully Trump will be back there.

[goaded]

9.2%

[joeldalton]

@goaded making him the largest shareholder. Try to pay attention.

[goaded]

So? Controlling share is over 50%. Something else you don't understand, then.

[MrOracle]

It's not "controlling" stock - @goaded is correct that "controlling" means 50% or more. But it DOES mean that he's going to wield a lot of influence about who runs the company, which means influence over the policies and general direction. Plus, Elon could double his stake tomorrow if he wanted.

Musk can't just dictate policy like he could if he owned 50.1%, but it's surprisingly hard to go against a shareholder with a ~10% stake and keep your job in the C-suite most of the time. And Musk is popular enough to build a lot of support among shareholders, so I would expect that he already effectively controls about 30% of the company on most issues without doing anything.

[joeldalton]

@goaded lmao, so I misused a term. You’re wrong every time you put fingers to keyboard.

[OddBeMe]

Mmm…Trump Casino, Trump University…why are you surprised this is crashing and burning?

[anylolone]

It's working. It's there. And it has a massive waiting period for anyone joining in.

[goaded]

Why?

[anylolone]

@goaded You, that's why.

[goaded]

You mean, once you get to the head of the list, in a few weeks, you'll be gone?

You'll find it boring on there without people to point out the lies.

[anylolone]

@goaded Well, I'm not finding getter boring, your lying ilk ain't there.

I don't know if you know this, but in conservative circles, debate is a sport, different from your lying ilk who can't convince anyone.
Gosh, you seem to have a sick need to groom babies into mutilating themselves and "exploring their sexuality" with you guys.

[goaded]

While, in the real world, Republican legislatures are passing laws making child marriage legal, "inspecting" Miss Teen USA changing rooms, sexually assaulting teenagers, and taking 17 year olds across state lines while paying them for sex.

[anylolone]

@goaded Have you read the law? Do you want quotes, man?

[goaded]

Go on, then. Where does it set a minimum age for its homophobic version of "marriage"?

[anylolone]

@goaded deduced from 36-3-202 paragraph 5 on the original draft.

Of course, in the new draft it's more explicit.

[goaded]

Bullshit. You mean they changed it because of the backlash. If it had already disallowed child marriages, they would simply have explained how and not have to significantly update it.

New version: www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Fiscal/FM2610.pdf
Original: www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB0233.pdf

[goaded]

Oh, and I didn't forget about Trump invading teenagers' changing rooms, Matt Gaetz's paid sex with a 17 year old, or Roy Moore's sexual assaults and "dates" with 14 year olds, much as you'd like me to. What's the word of the week? Ah, yes: Groomers.

[anylolone]

@goaded I literally cited the paragraph, read it.

And yeah, they made it more explicit because of it. But it was already pretty explicit if you know anything about law. Specially laws on coercion.

[goaded]

The paragraphs aren't numbered. Why don't you quote that paragraph? I gave links to the original and "fixed" versions.

[anylolone]

@goaded Actually they are numbered. Sections as well.
Which is why I gave you those two numbers.
Sometimes, paragraphs are lettered too.

[goaded]

So, save my poor old brain the effort and quote the paragraph you referred to. The paragraph that unambiguously sets a minimum age for marriage.

www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Bill/HB0233.pdf

Or do you mean in the full law, which doesn't seem to have a part 2.

law.justia.com/.../
"Part 2 - [Reserved]"

[anylolone]

@goaded Did you read any that? Even that small draft?

Here's a more complete version:
www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Amend/SA0709.pdf

Section: 36-3-202a, paragraph 5.

"That at the time the declaration of marriage and statement of intent to
enter into a marital contract at common law was made, neither the husband nor
the wife was drunk or of unsound mind or acting under force or duress;"

[goaded]

Yes, I read it, and your document is an undated, 18 page amendment to the 2 page original proposal.

Your quote says nothing about age. It looks like an enthusiastic 14 year old would qualify. Is that OK with you?

Tennessee law refers to marriage, which SCOTUS has determined is a right of all people, including same-sex couples. This new bill purports to create a new category of "marriage" which only involves mixed sex couples. It's far from clear that the age limits of the former would apply to the latter.

Of course, the whole thing is a sham to provide cover to people illegally refusing to perform their duties.

[anylolone]

@goaded It doesn't have to say anything about age.
There's a whole corpus of legislation on that, as I said.

Oh, that's the bill that went to the senate, I thought it was obvious from the heading.

[goaded]

It's not what was originally proposed, and it's not what got sent to the senate, there's another amendment. www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/112/Amend/SA0868.pdf

Unsurprisingly you lied about "deduced from 36-3-202 paragraph 5 on the original draft." (it wasn't in the original draft, there is currently no section 36-3-2*, since the requirement for a medical inspection was revoked).

They want to add a section 36-3-202, which still doesn't mention age, which makes "Of course, in the new draft it's more explicit." a lie as well.

[anylolone]

@goaded Your link doesn't work for me because I'm not in the US.
Find another source. Or should I try a VPN?

[goaded]

It doesn't work for me, either, yet your earlier one did. Maybe it's getting more international attention than they'd like.

[anylolone]

@goaded Nope, only the one I posted work. What you posted besides the draft doesn't for either of us. (seems like you aren't in the US either. Seems like I'm going to have to try a VPN.)

But it seems like you don't know what you are talking about.

"Amendment No. 1 to SB0562
Bell
Signature of Sponsor
AMEND Senate Bill No. 562 House Bill No. 233*"

Seems like you are right in one that's it's not the first draft of SB0562.
Not much relevant, there's still a corpus of law around it.

Like this law:
www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/.../...rape-laws.htm

[goaded]

They all worked until recently, something changed on their server in the last day or so.

The second amendment is here:
web.archive.org/.../SA0868.pdf

It's quite short and finally mentions "the age of majority". Which is good, because afaics the law is about marriage, and not sex.

Of course, the whole point of this bill is to disallow the constitutionally protected right to same-sex marriage in Tennessee.

How we got to this from truth social, I don't know. Oh, yes, you claimed admitting the existance of same-sex couples and transexuals is grooming, and I pointed out this law and Republicans ""inspecting" Miss Teen USA changing rooms, sexually assaulting teenagers, and taking 17 year olds across state lines while paying them for sex. " I didn't mention the former Trump aide who just got prison time for requesting and receiving video of a baby being raped.

[anylolone]

@goaded The first amendment doesn't have "age of minority" and still has it heavily implied by the 5th paragraph of the section 36-3-202a.

Regardless, no need since the state's age of consent is 18, as I have shown you.

[goaded]

Yeah, in the amendment, not the original bill. The latest amendment restricts their unconstitutional definition of marriage to 18+, but the previous one didn't. Do you agree that the bill is an attempt to get around the SCOTUS decision that says same-sex couples have a right to marry?

[anylolone]

@goaded But there's still age of consent laws, and laws regarding what minors can sign on, and the old "common law marriage" laws there, etc...

I think this law is discriminatory... Gay people can't claim common law marriage due to cohabitation like straight people, which highly favors gays.

[007kingifrit]

the media isn't allowed to talk about trump... they got their orders

[Snakeyes7]

I hear it was glitched up the ass so it was difficult to use.

[Anonymous]

Trump to run a failed a business? NO WAY!!! this must be a lie.

[DonkeyDan]

It's the first I've heard about it to be honest.

[Desconhecida]

Because the media is paid to help democrats.

[SignedAutographs]

It was a grift, as usual

[KrakenAttackin]

You know his tweets made you wet ;)

[Fuentes]

Anything Trump does they cancel and delete

[WhiteBoyChill]

Its undergoing maintenance. It will be back

[goaded]

It's been six weeks.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@goaded who gives a sh*t?

[goaded]

You care enough to try and defend it. The two main tech guys just quit.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@goaded So clearly they just didn’t care.

[goaded]

Clearly they realised that it was a typical Trump operation.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@goaded I still don’t understand why you care. I’m not upset the platform failed.

And it isn’t even a “sure” thing that its gone for good

[Anonymous]

It failed like everything trump has ever done.

[888theGreat]

He was a top 5 President. People not biased know that. Not to mention his show Celebrity Apprentice was the top show on NBC. Not to mention like a coward you use Anon because you know 9/10 are going to prove you wrong here.

[Opinion Owner]

@888theGreat lmao! top 5 according to what? your fantasy list of fascist wannabe dictators?

[888theGreat]

majority of American people

[Opinion Owner]

@888theGreat lmao, ok. you have fun in that delusional, alternate reality, fantasy world you live in.

[Joker_]

he was top 5 greatest American presidents for sure

[Opinion Owner]

@Joker_ only in the delusional fantasies of his cult of morons.

[888theGreat]

75% of people here thought Trump was great , only people that won't work , get food from gov't , gov't housing think he wasn't

[Joker_]

delusion fantasy