Agree or disagree: Nazism is when colonialism happens to white people?

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

i. e. the reason it's so stigmatized compared to other atrocities throughout history is because the kinds of crimes perpetrated all over the world during the colonial and imperial era were perpetrated against white people?

I've heard this perspective but my mind's not set on whether it's true or not. What are your thoughts?

[ArtemisSilver]

The main reason people really worry about Nazi's is because prior the world wars the Germans were generally well regarded as an advanced and enlightened people by other Europeans in particular.

To see the treaty of Versailles twist them into an evil war culture was horrific for all Europeans because they realized that under the same pressures they too might have followed a very dark path.

Colonialism on the other hand is more about industrial expansionism and asymmetric conflict.

You should work on your myopic view of the world. White man bad is a very reductionist lens through which to view all of reality.

Trust me man, you're going to beg for the good old days of white liberal capitalist preminance back when the souless CCP is in charge.

See in the current world you just get me calling you out. When you post inflammatory bullshit. But with the CCP in charge you'd have your social credit flagged, your travel papers revoked, and thugs pounding on the door. Be careful what you wish for.

[Snakeyes7]

Colonized by who?

The reason Nazism came to power in Germany is because the people were fooled into voting for a lunatic who used propaganda to amplify the public's perception of the power and privilege of one race over the rest and decreasing the public's perception of their vulnerability as a result.

Over time, the German people were more and more accepting of the horrible things the government did to the Jews because they wholeheartedly believed they deserved it.

The Jews lost their jobs, accused of crimes they didn't commit and were thrown in prison anyway because they were denied several of their rights in court, kristallnacht and eventually the concentration camps. The people became so hateful of the Jews that they were convinced that the only solution to their supposed power is a final one.

Hitler by no means did anything new, this tactic has been used for millenia. I even see this now with "white privilege/white America" or "patriarchy" and I cannot help but see us making the same mistake.

[NaultD]

I don't see how this is applicable. Hitler had some colonialism plans. Some in south America and some rumors he ran away there with nazi scientists doing eugenics.

Hitler in early power also had plans of colonizing Russia just before the communists revolution. It was a backwards state, prime to getting slapped around. That would ultimately roll tanks over Berlin a few decades later. Fascism is just an authoritarian regime. There is no real nuance to it and why it builds its self up as fast as it falls apart.

[Pohjolan]

Nope. Colonialism was primarily profit driven and disease was the primary killer.
Nazis wanted to just outright erase certain types of people off the map permanently.
Admittedly colonialists practically did the same to some indigenous people by first killing them off mostly by diseases and subjecting them to slavery and then importing Africans to replace the dying off slaves.
Like Haiti wasn't part of Africa but is now practically culturally African.

Moreover there were white Europeans whom were subject to colonialism by other Europeans.
Like what do you think USSR satellite states were? Hmmm?

[Sorn40]

I don't feel I completely understand this question? What are you trying to ask?

The Nazi's were horrible. They were horrible even to Germans that disagreed or didn't align with every belief their party kept narrowing. Not all Germans supported these guys and some even kind of fought back against Hitler (as they voted against some measure he was instituting) to solidify his power. Not realizing really the kind of man they were dealing with I believe they were sent to the Gulag.

Hitler hated Jews but he hated lots of other groups too. He even killed many of his troops near the end of the war out of fears of sedition. It's also heavily believed Hitler was on a-lot of drugs (especially near the end). Hitler was just horrible.

[ibodi]

I think that was revenge Nazism was kind to other beside Jew.
Jew was hated in middle east, I consider they grade humen maybe because god chosen yeah German was lowest but they who came to east before colonialism were good and being chinese officer.

[jshm2]

Eh? You mean "more genocide happens by White people".

As Nazism was basically just White people killing and looting again. Whereas Imperialism was White people looting and enslaving, more than killing. Colonialism was white people stealing from and suppressing natives.

[Soteris]

No, Nazism is mostly defined by the 14 characteristics. Its not like you would normally think of when you bring up ideologies and definitely not something as stupid as comparing it to colonialism.

[OddBeMe]

Wait huh? Colonial crimes were perpetuated against whites?

The “arguments” about the Holocaust seem to want to make it less of a crime. But no one act has been so devastating. Yeah Stalin killed more, but he ruled much longer.

[NathanDavis]

people really should stop comparing other things to Nazism, Hitler and the Holocaust...

[joeldalton]

I know you’re a lefty, but here’s a hint. As soon as a lib says something and includes the phrase “white people” it’s bullshit.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

Yeah, for example when LIBertarians say racial disparities in income, education and incarceration rates are because of 'individual choices' it's bullshit (it's just a sugar coated way of saying black people are inferior; hence they make bad choices).

Lowlife libtards.

[BLP11520]

Disagree, NAZI is an overused and misunderstood word. A political party. All Germans were not Nazis just like all Americans are not Democrats which is the worst of our 2 parties.

[Zealconsumesme]

If you're trying to say Jews are White, no

[EnglishEuropean]

The Nazis were white dumbass.

[Ad_Quid_Orator]

No shit, but the point is that the difference is that their victims were white.

[EnglishEuropean]

Okay but it's still not true. Colonialism doesn't usually involve genocide. Maybe you can find examples where it does but that would atypical. So I'd have to disagree. by the way sorry for the crack; I know you're not dumb.