I've noticed that many people use "Nazi" and "White-supremacist" as synonymous. But I've read interview with Nazis where some of them says they're fine with both South-European and East-Asian people, respects them etc. like themselves - but just hates on Jews. If that's the case, can we really say Nazis are white-supremacists?
White supremacists thinks the white race is superior; better than other races. But Nazis seems racist toward only some races, but not everyone who are none-white. A Nazi can be more racist toward a white Jew than an East-Asian and South-European for instance. Seems like this thing hasn't anything with color to do and it's all a false myth. Seems like Nazis just pick a "random" group to hate and hates it for something else than color and appearance. Maybe more culturally and economically reasons than color?
#Nazi#Nazism#WhiteSupremacy#WhiteSupremacist Dark Nazi memberSeveral dark Nazis (Especially the guy to left)This is what people says is the "Nazi ideal", but seems like although it's an ideal, it's not a requirement
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Please elaborate and explain WHY. CAN PEOPLE OF COLOR BE WHITE-SUPREMACIST TOO?
Are Nazis White-Supremacists And Hates All None-White Races?
To what you told me you only consider White those who have light feature but other than you everyone consider White any person that's an European (no matter if their skin is tanned and their hair dark, they're still considered White). Jews aren't considered White even if they're blonde.
As for Nazi White-Supremacists accepting East - Asian I think it's because during the WW2 Nazi were allied with the Japanese (and if I remember correctly they considered them White). I think it's the reasons why they're ok with East Asian (too they have the stereotype to be the most intelligent so).
Too if we look at what Nazi considered good and not bad it's very surprising they considered Eastern European lower than Middle Eastern while Eastern European are more White (have lighter feature, hair / eyes; etc...) than Middle Eastern so I don't think that hair, eyes color, etc... matter that much for them.
May I ask you something? I'm Mediterranean from native Anatolian mix with Caucasian. Where do I stand in that? I always thought about it what Mediterranean counts?
Exactly, Hitler hated Jews, the Masonic and communists for political and economical reasons. He didn't hate other races and he even bond with them. To say that Hitler and his followers were racists is technically seen false. Most of his top men didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes, but the opposite. Plus he also got rid of Jews, the Masonic and communists who were blonde and blue eyed. It really didn't matter to him. He himself was Austrian though. What mattered to him was the German citizen (note it could be also another race) and Germany being all right. He saw Jews, communists and the Masonic as a threat.
Neo Nazis however think it's about white nationalism and they are racists. It's no wonder that many of them have a low IQ. They don't know what national socialism is about.
Honestly, Hitler was just jealous of their wealth, so he went to war to rob them of their wealth. Greeneyed monster right there. He used genotypes as an excuse to back up people's hatred for others who are different than them. It was all about greed, most of the wars are from greed aka green eyed monster the most jealous one who infilitrated among the unsuspecting huge egogistical folks.
Nope, there was something else going on. It had more to do with power than greed. He saw them as a threat to Europe. If you look at who is behind all these disasters of today you'll notice that they play a big role. If you look at who kinda owns the world currently and then I'm talking about in the background, you'll see why Hitler saw them as a threat. If you read the history of communism and how it killed more than 100million people, you'll understand why he wanted to get rid of every communist. What he did was unethical for sure, but we shouldn't forget how other kind of groups like communists and the masonic did far worse while we are blindfolded.
@9teen he was just a criminal, financed by German industry for their profit. He was tolerated by European and American conservatives because he was anti socialist and anti communist.
I completely agree. It is good to know more people are realizing that most of what is taught is a myth and the German Nazis were not racists. Neo Nazis are nothing like the Nazis of the Third Reich. Many Neo Nazis also have a lot more problems than just a low IQ, its common to see pictures of Neo Nazis with tattoos and some have piercings, and some have drug or drinking problems which are all behaviors a genuine Nazi would not approve.
@Dragon_Rises I've stopped referring to WWII Germany as 'Nazis' altogether, if you look at the origin of the term 'Nazi', it was just a derogatory term people who fled Germany called them.. Their real name was the National Socialist Party.
They were a bit more specific than that. They were Aryan supremisist. It is worth noting that being supremisist just means they thought they were better than everyone else not that they hated them, that's a subset of the idea (similar to posh people thinking they're better than the homeless Vs hating the homeless) that many people fell into.
That all said the American movement aren't really Nazis... They're more like Nazi fan boys, real Nazis would have laughed at them and abused them like the poor kid with a scholarship in a rich private school.
Most of the American movement are very capitalist not socialist (the main gripe the Nazis had with Jewish people was the distribution of wealth). Their nationalism is too insular (probably due to America teaching little world geography). They're to libertarian and their work ethic is a joke.
Yeah, if blacks and Latino can be white supremacists too - then it's more understandable why these people also can be it V They're dark, but have European facial features like small noses etc. cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...5-94ed-5ed3c09eb4a8.jpg
I'm wondering why blacks etc. sometimes choose to be white supremacist and hate themselves.
Depends on the person. There are some national socialists out there who are entirely racist against about every race there is and there are some who are only racist towards Jews. Outside of that a lot of them including myself are against diversity and cultures merging together. Especially mix racing is very frowned upon. Anyway, keep in mind not all national socialists are the same. Majority believe in it while there are some who are just edgy and obnoxious. Most do actually take it to heart, but there are some who do it for the wrong reasons. Another thing I want to point out that there are different groups in the NS (National Socialist) community that do different things and have certain beliefs that are different. I'd go into description about the most well known ones like the Atomwaffen for example, but we'd be here all day. Although there are some who are basically the laughing stock of the NS community and are frowned upon. Here are some pictures of them. lmfao
Hitler snubbing Jessie Owens is a myth, and he saluted him. He planned to leave earlier which is why he got up and left. en.wikipedia.org/.../Jesse_Owens
Hitler LOVED Native Americans and used to read about them in books as a kid. He planned on carving out a independent Native American state for them after the war. " Nazi propagandists went as far as declaring that Germany would return expropriated land to the Indians"
He would also often criticize colonial treatment of Africans and a Nazi SS division of Norway published propaganda showing a black man in a cage in the belly of a Klan war machine, which represented America
The Nazi are national socialists, hate is not a requirement of the ideology but they hate any group they see as harmful to the nation. That's why they hated the communists and then the Jews in WW2, it wasn't random.
As you said white supremacists just think the white race is superior.
The 2 can be combined as one is political belief and one is just personal, but they aren't always. Plus people mislabel them all the time because if someone thinks you're a nazi or a supremacist, you are instantly so reviled they have no interest in deciphering what you actually think it believe.
Does it matter? Either you believe in equality and integration, or you don't. The banner under which you exclaim your personal and political exceptions don't really matter. In addition, if you don't like being associated with people you think are buttholes, you should stop acting like a butthole. Y'know, for the most part, life is pretty simple. If you've become a butthole in the eyes of the majority, you can probably get out of it unless you really are a butthole. Words to live by, or die by... your choice.
Well no in theory but in practice mostly yes Nazism or rather nationalsocialism is a particular political conviction which is a hybrid ideology it does not inherently incorporate racial supremacy The correlation between those two relates more to the nationalism that is inherent in it which will tend to favour the nation's primary ethnicity/race It is in theory perfectly possible for let's say a group in an African nation could embrace the philosophy and be black supremacists In practice however it far as I know has not really happened nazism has really only taken root in white countries So they are theoretically not interchangeable terms as there is a vast gulf of meaning between their definitions however in reality often they are the same though it should be noted that there are white supremacists who do not embrace Nazism at all
To me, A Nazi is someone who wants to get rid of a particular group or a genotype, that is not right at all. We all are God's creation and there should not be a group of people who thinks that they are superior than others, because that means they willfully embody hatred towards another and causes divisions among the people.
For an example : a promise to all of us by God and thy truth, we all see a unity of a rainbow of all colors. The colors of rainbows always stay together, the rainbow colors cannot divide or separate.
NY times, Twitter, CNN, Antifa, and what I like to call reality exposes them perfectly well. Any left leaning media and liberal arts college make it Pathetically obvious.
Nazism is a political ideology, based on the superiority of an aryan race (which doesn't even include all white people) above every other supposedly inferior races. It's much more specific than white supremacy, and is a totalitarist regime, never a democracy. White supremacy is based on the idea that "white countries" have to be majoritarly, or entirely, populated and lead by white people, and other people should be kept away. It's not necessarily a dicature or even a totalitarist regime, it can be a democracy, it's just that it consider a country as white and want to keep it that way.
Of course, both often go with racism, nazism especially since it's the base of the ideology, but a white supremacist won't necessarily be racist.
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By South Europeans I'm assuming you mean Italians, and east Asian, Japanese. They were axis allies so at the time Hitler tolerated their presence, given a long enough timeline I'm sure he would have eventually turned his eye towards them. Nazis now days are just too illiterate and stupid to realize That.
Nazis and white supremacists both use the idea that others are somehow inferior as an excuse to exploit, oppress, enslave and/or kill other people so that they themselves can be in power. Their arguments/ideas are not based on logic, but merely rationalisations of how they would like to behave towards other people.
@esotericstory I completely agree. The Nazi Reich was not about racial supremacy. Racial supremacy is an American invention. The Germans believed in racial purity for Europeans and for other races. If people stopped buying into the myths and decades of propaganda, and look into the Nazi Reich with an open mind and for historical pictures people will discover the Nazis had Africans, Asians, Arabs, and others as allies. There were Africans wearing honorary Nazi uniforms. The Japanese were an ethnic group considered Honorary Aryans. There are many myths with no basis in reality taught and spread to vilify the Third Reich. 20th Century German Nazis are nothing like 21st Century American Nazis. It's comparing Apples and Oranges. Most American Nazis are a disgrace and are just KKK by another name with marginally different ideas.
I don't think all nazis are white supremacists and the only places that I've seen these terms being used as if they're synonyms is media from the US which are generally not trusted in my country ("Those stupid Americans again") so I can only blame THEM for it. I also think it's very important to be careful about these terms and not take them for granted by simply dismissing them as a group of minorities who are all the same and when we call nazis white supremacists we seem to do exactly that.
Nazis were allies with Japan & even declared war on the USA for Japan's benefit. they just largely want Europe & Russia as their private stomping ground. Any in the USA or Canada will want those areas as well. Nazi = nationalist (state/identity group 1st) + socialist (state control). its a scary combo for anyone outside of their identity group. There are different versions of groups like this in every nation & race.
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You mean south european like the Italians who were Germany's allies during the war or east asia as in Japan, who also were Germany's allies during the war?
Propaganda. They were taught that these people were okay because they joined them in the war. This is one of the weakest arguments for the Nazi Party I've ever seen.
If you go to any KZ they are list of the death and on this list are over 50+ countrys where they came from. So they were against many. Race was not always the issues thought. KZ were also knows as work camps with the motto "Arbeit macht frei" (roughly translated as work make you free) They were for people that can not work to medical issues, did not work or were "useless" for work like military. Also sexuality were a factor. Homosexual wäre also put in KZ. Men should "produce" "pure" children.
Sorry for asking, I'm anatolian turk or turkified Mediterranean. I asked this someone else before on here but didn't get any point so im asking again. Where do we stand in that hierarchy?
Ok the thing with the Nazis was they believed that Aryans were the master race, in how they saw it basically Caucasians except Jews. So yes they were white supremacists.
But inferior doesn't necessarily mean bad, it means not as good. So as long as you "know your place" you don't have to be the archatypeal tall, blond, blue eyed white guy to still believe that's the ideal. I mean look at Hitler.
National Socialism never recognized the existence of a white race, the aryan race however they did recognize. The only evidence of the NSDAP racial supremacy is the book called 'der untermensch' which was published in the 1940's whereas the NSDAP had in 1920 been formed, and had ideas about the aryan race as you can read in Mein Kampf. Mein Kampf however never mention 'ubermensch' nor 'untermensch'.
The Nazi ideology is genetic superiority which for them is the Aryan race (blonde hair blue eyes white skin) anything else is seen as inferior and sub human. Even If you where white but have black hair and brown eyes you’d be seen as actual genetic trash so yes the answer is yes
Yeah that can be a thing it would basically be for example a non white dude or dame honest to goodness believes that whites are superior to his race and any other race OR acknowledges that his/her race is inferior which actually there is one person out there who believes that and I think he was a black guy who is friends with a KKK grand wizard I think
There are people in the national socialist ideologies that are non-white and instead hate other races including whites. The ideology itself is based on ethnic nationalism, and can be applied to various different ethnicities.
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German proud socialists back in the days. Anything you see now is just a reputation seeking clownish wannabes. In an ideal world everyone's shit stinks noone has supremacy. Whoever glorifies their race or colour in this day an age, they seriously have mental issues...
The Nazis absolutely believed that the White Aryan race was superior to all others and must be kept pure. That was a central part of their ethos. People of colour can identify as Nazis but that just means they don't understand the concept.
Well curiousnorway i have a feeling your about to be grilled by half of gag. But you are right. They were more of jew black inferiorists than white supremacists. But i suppose in everyday talk i doesn't really matter.
It is possible for a person to believe their race is superior, but at the same time not hate, but actually like some of the races they feel superior to.
Makes sense. I would say most American neo-nazis are white supremacists, but not everyone. Some are just European-supremacist. Not every American nazis cares if you looks like this: cf.girlsaskguys.com/.../...0-912c-eb83b5012aa1.jpg
dont assume that because they didn't come right out and say it, that they like some brown people. shit the originals were killing white people too! they are all dirt scum
Not really from what I've noticed. Most Nazis don't hate on South-Europeans or East-Asians. Not on biracial people either. It seems like they're hating on Jews, blacks, homosexuals, gypsies etc. Doesn't seem like Nazis cares if you look like this and still wants to take you in their groups: sturdyblog.files.wordpress.com/.../...3-181746.jpg
@curiousnorway You have to differentiate. Nazis didn't hate every race or ethnicity. But that doesn't mean they had any high opinions of them. The nazis would have considered the japanese "subhumans", but that didn't mean they hated them really.
Yes, I've read that. They didn't like Russians, Polish or other East-European. It seemed like they were more fine with East-Asians and South-Europeans that are way darker than North-East-Europeans that looks more like West- and North-European.
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