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I don't think so. I think that politicians say things that their support base wants to hear, things that they already think and agree with, in order to get elected. That's all he did. Which means that the "hate" was already there.
I'm a nationalist. I'm anti globalism, multiculturalism, feminism, the LGBT community, and I have been since well before Trump ran. As I and many others on the right see it, the left has gotten more and more extreme, and that's what pushes many people further to the right. Many of those people might say that the left is to blame.
I'd say that all we're seeing is increased polarisation which each side pushing the other further to the left or right. It's happening no matter who is in charge.
Hate is to blame for hate in America. It existed long before Trump. Trump can't even be blamed for the hatred that exists between the Right and the Left. There is only one key factor behind that hatred. Political Correctness.
Political Correctness (controlled speech) has been driving this country in half since it first took a stronghold in our society back in the late 1980's, when people were being told that Garbage men were now to be called Sanitary Engineers. Once that happened, it blew out of proportion and people resisted. Other people welcomed the idea. That is the wedge in our society that drive us apart. Remove that wedge, and none of this divide would have ever happened and Trump would have never ran for president.
Trump, aside from being a little crass and speaking his mind has not changed anything about America. He’s simply held a mirror up to the people responsible for America’s woes and amplified disenfranchised voices. Regardless of what Trump does the rage is going to continue to build against the Washington Elite and their corrupt Wall Street corporate goons. America is a house of cards soaked in gasoline.
I blame the media. The MEDIA is responsible for all the hatred and race-baiting. And Twitter, of course.
So when the media report that a police officer shot a burglary victim in their own home because they assumed them guilty due to race? Or used strong compressive force on a suspect's neck until they died? The US has a lot of racism with relining and Trump amplified it.
@Echosoul Most of the stories that are reported are sensationalised for increased ratings, and you rarely, if ever, hear more than one side to any story (ex. the war in Ukraine).
Police suffocating the suspect via leaning on neck was caught on camera. Many incidents of police brutality have been filmed.
@Echosoul Okay, so what? Do you think the mobile phone footage captures the whole story, the reasons why what is happening is happening, the background context, or anything else? What about the events that are not captured on film, like the events leading up to the "incident"?
First off, I’m not the biggest fan of trump. He was definitely very divisive. But, I think Obama was the one who began the division and trump just expanded it. Obama was always talking about race… if you want to stop racism… stop talking about it and blaming everything on it. Saying that the whole system is racist is a covert excuse to tear it down to make something different. But Obama never once gave any proof of systemic racism, meaning the system is not setup to hinder or help people based on the color of their skin. If anyone points out any actual way that the system or a part of it is actually racist, I will stand by your side and fight it. But talking about it and blaming this existential threat as the root of all our problems just leads people to feel like victims, or guilt when they aren’t victims or to blame (respectively) for anything.
He's not really to blame. He's certainly a big factor of why it got so big, and he's a key instigator, but America was set up to fail for decafes.
The War on Drugs, anti-communist propaganda during the Cold War (also look up how similar American post-war propaganda is just redesigned Nazi propaganda, it's crazy), Reaganomics, etc - America has been hopped up on hate and racism for decades.
Hate in America is practically your guys' culture at this point.
While he didn't CAUSE it, he was derelict of the duties of his post, among which is to tamp down such tendencies. He, instead, exacerbated them to his own ends.
Interesting followup question, considering the myriad of things he didn't do that he was supposed to, the things he did do that he wasn't supposed to, and how he generally embarrassed the country on the world stage on a regular basis... And considering that TECHNICALLY the president is also a military officer (commander in chief), could he be court martialed under military law for dereliction of duty and for conduct unbecoming of an officer?
No he's not. The scourge was there long before he was but it got exponentially worse in the early 2010s with the rise of the psychotic SJWs and the people elected Trump in hopes that he would fight against them.
Anytime someone called him a racist, nazi or whatever term is convenient for them at that moment, for no reason other than to poison the well, his supporters like him more because they were doing to him what they were doing to anyone who fought against their narrative.
Alas, it was too late and the lunatics have already taken enough control of the state for them to have the media convince the public that it is their job to tell people what they should believe and all skeptics should be branded as enemies.
No. If anything it's the opposite. Any of our elected officials are a symbol of where we're at. Trump is the result of 8 years. Of Obama. a lot WON'T want to hear that but it's true. The good news is Trump was not re-elected. So that shows the majority of the country is still reasonable. Trump is the embodiment of disenfranchiement. He's the the "if I can't be happy I'd just assume we all burn" vote. Proof of that was he was the lowest approval rating of any president to take office. People who voted for him didn't even want him. They just wanted to torture everyone else.
Lets see, what’s currently the biggest issue in America has nothing to do with Trump and everything to do with the democratic leadership. Open borders? The media spent over 2 years blaming Trump for kids in cages. Wrong, it was obama. Media blamed Trump for Russian collusion and spent millions. Wrong, hillary clinton and democratic plan to prevent Trump from winning. Media blamed Trump for Asian racism…wrong…China did in fact create Covid. Media blamed Trump for black hatred…wrong…Trump did more for Africans than any president besides Lincoln. The media blamed Trump for Covid miss information…Wrong..:He started the vaccines and spoke of alternatives which DID work but the government wanted the money by vaccines only. Biden kept economy shit down for two years…now look at inflation and destroyed economy…of course there's a lot more they did
it seems like everyone these days are very jumpy and quick to anger when it comes to their politics/moral beliefs, but i would not blame that on trump. people are just becoming more divided, because a lot of people's beliefs are changing (not as a result of trump)
How do you know what Trump feels?
Do you Experience Trumps emotions on a daily basis?
Trump is Trump everyone says things It’s not what anybody says it’s how we as Human being perceive the things people say. That’s what creates our feelings and emotions. So again I will ask You again do you Wake up everyone morning Dealing with the stress and emotions of being Donald Trump?
No, Total Depravity and fallen individual is the Reason for “hate.” Don’t be a punk…take responsibility for your actions. Neither Man/Woman, Abortionist being the prime example, are willing to take responsibility for their individual actions
—Open Leg Syndrome in this case…more Fallen Maness.
Started under Obama with conservatives attacking him every step of the way. Trump made it worse with his brash style and the left was traumatized in the election when Clinton lost… causing further emotional damage. Trump derangement syndrome began.
He didn’t help the matter.
People approve of him for other perceptions.
First off lemme say that nobody can make anybody do anything including hate. Second, when will the people that are constantly accusing others of being racists see that they are in fact the very people that keep the race war roaring. Example, if a person hits me (37yr old "white" male) imma defend myself. But in the eyes of the law, thanks to all of the anti hate and anti racist power groups, I could be seen as a hero, a person defending themself, a person who committed assault and in worse cases a hate crime violator and murderer. And sadly the deciding factor is the color of the other person's skin and the social standing of the community where the incident took place. People are incredibly foolish in this regard. So no Trump isn't even close to blame. In fact, the blame lies mostly on the groups who operate under the guise of ridding the world of hate. Wise up, people!
Looks like you have already passed judgement.
Are Obama, and now Biden responsible for setting back race relations 50 years?
Are they not theactual fomenters of "hate?
Ohhh. You probably went to government schools and watch mainstream cable news. How could you know anything at all?
Of course, not. The hatred was already there. And has been there for decades. We just pretended like it wasn't. Including myself.
Trump just helped to destroy the delusion.
So what do you think people hate?
@WhiteBoyChill I told you before that racism is taught and that racism is learned. You disagreed.
But as an answer to your question. . . . hatred is also taught and learned. But we all know why people use hate. Because it gives them power. It gave Hitler absolute power and control over an entire society. People lived and died at his command.
You call it hate but I just see people wanting to protect their communities out of love
@WhiteBoyChill Nah, that's just a lie. You were taught race. You were taught racism. You were taught that you could hold other races responsible for conduct of certain individuals, while never even taking responsibility for your own personal conduct, much less the conduct of your race.
And somehow, someway, you posit this is an objective, logical position.
It is just superstitious nonsense, for which you base insane batshit hatred.
You’re foolish to pretend that black people aren’t the most monolithic group of people there are. Don’t like 90% of you guys blindly support BLM and vote for Democrats?
@WhiteBoyChill The only measure you have for diversity is your politics. Which is batshit insane.
"Black" people were literally swinging from trees just a few short decades ago. My mother was 12 years old when Emmitt Till was tortured to death. She was 20 years old when four little "Black" girls were murdered in an explosion at a Birmingham church.
But we are supposed to arrive at a different political conclusion to meet the approval of a cowardly racist troll on the internet.
Maybe that isn't something that will happen in the near future. . . or distant future. . . or ever.
The funny thing is, that under Bush, we actually had an active successful push to get "Black" folks to vote Republican. But now seeing just how batshit insane racist freaks are, why would I continue to even mention the word republican? A racist is a racist, if "Black" folks for Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Green, Pink, Orange or Purple..
You truly have shown that racism is not based on anything rational, logical or objective. From your batshit obsession with "White" people being "replaced", to being pissed off that "Black" people would have the nerve to demand the same police protection as any American citizen.
So why the fuck would a "Black" person change their vote to earn your respect? "White" supremacy only has one master. And most "White" supremacists are either too cowardly or too confused to even articulate an agenda that makes common sense. As they keep thinking they own the entire "White" race.
Fuck no dude. Anyone who thinks that is just extremely stupid. Trump was always a dumb guy. Biden is more stupider. But you wanna know who the most stupid people are? Americans. Thinking that just by protesting and burning down cop cars that they can end racism. Racism cannot end. People need to wake the fuck up. Whites have this sense of superiority over blacks. Blacks have a sense of superiority over Asians as we can see with Asian hate crimes. And Asians talk shit about Americans. It is a never ending cycle of hatred. Anyone who thinks that this conflict with skin color and ethnicities can be ended is absolutely deluded. This is the reality that the media and the pathetic world leaders won’t tell you. Wake up!
No, he just gave confidence to all the low life people to come out and spew their bile.
But Trump is one disgusting piece of trash, he's a rapist and a paedophile , his opinions about women are utterly disgusting, he's a hateful racist that gets away such behavior be of the clout that his money brings. How a single 👩 could ever vote for such a repugnant individual is beyond me!
Just because people don’t like Donald Trump. Doesn’t mean he’s responsible for the hatred of America. Americans hated each other before he was elected. Donald Trump being blamed for the hatred of America makes no sense. Black Americans hate White Americans, and White Americans hate Black Americans. Heck, White people hate Black people when they went to Africa during slavery.