If anyone can be a WOMAN, should we just get rid of the word since it has no meaning?

[Chthou95]

a lot of liberals and social justice warriors claim that anyone can identify and be a woman. So if anyone can, should the word even exist anymore since the word has no objective meaning to these people?

[Soteris]

*claps hands* You are finally getting it even if you are trying to be sarcastic. The goal of the left is not to reinforce gender stereotypes such as defining what is a "Woman" or "Man", that is a conservative remnant. It is to eliminate our baseless stereotypes of them. The only reason why the left is fighting for the right to identify as a woman is simply because we have not gotten to the point where we can let go of the concept of gender in the first place.

Nice of you to take the charge on this one and jump a step forward. And before you say anything, I am correct. There is objectively no such thing as a "man" or a "woman". They are social constructs we made up. Biology and evolution dont work in such black and white manners.

[Chthou95]

Yeah i was being sarcastic. Glad you figured that out. So you're for the "Anyone can identify" as they want crowd?

[Soteris]

Considering I consider them imaginary things, I fail to see why they can't if it makes them happier.

[Chthou95]

Because the belief can be dangerous

[Soteris]

How so?

[Chthou95]

Can i ask a 26 year old guy identify as a 10 year old boy?

[Soteris]

Age is not the same thing as gender but I am pretty sure there are plenty of sexual kinks around roleplaying as a 10 year old for example.

[Chthou95]

But its how they feel. If they feel like they're a 10 year old boy, should it be okay for them to identify as that?

[Soteris]

Putting aside the word "boy", age is not like gender since its based on something that actually exist which is the passage of time. They are not equivalent.

[Chthou95]

Okay so what is a woman to you?

[Soteris]

Nothing more than an empty self-gratifying title that some people are comfortable with and others not. For me its not any different from asking what nationality you feel you identify with or what football fan group you belong to. Its all pointless aside from those who find value in identifying as such.

[Chthou95]

Reality>feelings. Reality is more important than feelings here

[Soteris]

In this case then neither "male" nor "woman" exist in reality. You are not helping your case.

[Chthou95]

There's facts and biology to prove men and women are real though. It doesn't go based off of feelings

[Soteris]

Incorrect. The thing you call "men" and/or "women" is something completely different from what you think of or mean when you say that term. Its usage does not represent reality.

[Chthou95]

We're gonna have to agree to disagree there. This will just keep going back and forth

[Soteris]

I mean.. I am factually correct which is the problem here. From an evolutionary point of view its literally impossible for there to be genders or even species in the first place even though it is the thing that you think "invented" or perhaps created these concepts in the first place.

Evolution does not invent something and then use it later. From its perspective it simply makes a new unique creation each and every time. The fact that we categorize these things into such things as species or even genders is entirely on us and has nothing to do with the reality of the situation where again, everyone is a unique "species" and everyone is a unique "gender" through random mutation.

It is literally impossible for there to actually be such a thing as "man" or "woman". The world simply does not work that way.

[Chthou95]

So if women don't exist, we should just abolish women's rights since anyone can be a woman. The word doesn't mean anything and women no longer exist

[Soteris]

Congratulations, you just figured out the goal of feminism.

[Chthou95]

I lost brain cells reading that comment

[Soteris]

Its literally not my fault that you do not understand the basis behind feminism.

[Chthou95]

Feminism? That word has lost all its meaning

[Soteris]

The word feminism has nothing to do with the female gender aside from a historical nod to where it started. It is incorrect to assume it had any deeper meaning behind it.

[Chthou95]

Fine. Again let's agree to disagree

[Soteris]

There is no "Agree to disagree". This is just a fact. Ill give you a tip, telling a literal feminist what "feminist" means is a waste of both of ours time.

[Chthou95]

Bruh okay you get the w move on

[jshm2]

Maybe all women need to become transmen?