Are we ever going to get the truth on how many people died from covid vs died WITH covid?

[Anonymous]

Curious

The covid death numbers were inflated

The covid death numbers were accurate

The covid death numbers were understated

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Not to say covid didn’t kill people. It absolutely did kill lots of people.

But something tells me “the party of science” never really cared about reporting honest numbers.

[Lliam]

Even the CDC now admits that Covid deaths were wildly inflated. Hospitals were required to follow new protocols that required them to list covid on any death in which covid "may" have been present. Fraudulent PCR tests and even guesses were used. If a guy died in a car crash but got a positive PCR test in the ER, covid was listed on his death certificate and then counted as a covid death. Hospitals got paid for covid cases and covid deaths.

Protocols also caused hospitals to murder people by withholding effective treatment or by using remdesivir and ventilators, then say the people died from covid.

[Stoner710]

No we are not I’m pretty sure more people died of Covid in China then they said less people died of Covid then the United States said and we will never know how many people died as a result of the lock downs from drug overdose and suicide the true answer will never be known

[Daniela1982]

But was the ordinary Flu counted as Covid deaths, because I never heard a peep about yearly Flu deaths.

[HighValue]

As of January 2022, there were just over 48,000 covid deaths in the USA that were caused exclusively by covid.
That is from the CDC's own data if you take out all of the ones that died from heart disease, diabetes, cancer, etc.
And at that time there were just over 21,000 that died from the vaccines.

[SeekingVirginWife]

Do not forget to take the Vaccine. Pregnant women need it more. Infants and Kids should take the Vaccine.

The Vaccine is heart healthy, and will protect your heart as well. It is also LGBT friendly.

Please trust the Government and Big Pharma companies, We care about your health. Stop following propaganda or Anti-Vaxxers.

[goaded]

The obvious answer would be excess deaths over the average for the last five (or whatever) years. There's a report here:

https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938

[BCA6010]

Not unless they were secretly keeping the actual numbers logged, which would be very unlikely and insanely stupid were it to get leaked and cause an uproar. Having a monopoly on source data is an invaluable asset.

[jshm2]

You're confused. People are STILL dying from covid, and covid related deaths.

The problem is people have underlaying conditions that covid can cause to erupt. It is not possible in every case to claim which dealt the killer blow.

[normalice]

Seems like comparing the overall death rates to previous years is sufficient for showing how many died because of COVID, be it because of it directly or indirectly.

[TommyMountainFigure]

They still don't know exactly how many people died from Spanish Flu, and that was around the 1920's, so probably not.

[exitseven]

Hospitals were inflating the numbers. People were dying of cancer of GSWs and if they tested positive they died of Covid.

[OddBeMe]

I've asked this before. But HIV lowers immunity (in the name) and people die from common colds or even sudden onset of cancer cells. So did these people die from common cold and cancer, or HIV?

[Asker]

Very few people die from the common cold. But HIV and especially cancer are a different story. There are advanced immunity booster treatments for HIV nowadays. HIV positive people are living near normal lives. Cancers different. Unless it’s caught early the prognosis for any cancer patients aren’t good.

[OddBeMe]

Not what i asked. people have gotten hiv and have died from other illnesses.

[altdbob]

LMAO the simple answer is NO because the government was involved in collecting the data. That means it will always be skewed to show what the government at the time wants it to say.

[Anonymous]

No of course not just like we will never get the truth about 9/11.

[NamerOfStars]

Realistically, no: how could we?

[Anonymous]

its fake no one has died from COVID

[Anonymous]

We never will.