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Do you agree with Dr. Jordan Peterson that the Woman Featured on the 2022 Swimsuit Edition of Sports Illustrated is not Beautiful? (Page 3)
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I agree she doesn't belong on the cover of sports illustrated and neither did the rest of them. Jordan is almost always 100% spot on with his observations and he doesn't do it to be spiteful or mean either.
I voted that I disagree, but I also think it's completely uncalled for. There's no need for a professor to be commenting on the looks of a woman on the internet unless she specifically asked for his opinion.
There are also plenty of people with different tastes in beauty, so no one person is everyone's type. His comment was just poorly thought out all around
What else would you expect. Black men are on their knees in sports wearing pink while transsexual cheerleaders wave their dongs in their face. Pro sports are gay, they aren't attracted to beautiful women.
His point wasn’t to disparage her personally, his point was everyone’s so afraid to speak out about how they truly feel and are being intimidated to conform to these unhealthy and dangerous societal pressures that are doing irreparable damage to the next generation.
why would it matter so much if she is beautiful or not? are women still sexual objects to men? you're the reason why so many women die getting Brazilian butt lift surgeries. Incredibly high standards when it comes to a woman's physical appearance.
why is there so much negativity on overweight women when there is no negativity on saggy, old, wrinkly men with saggy balls that don't work?
Women have higher standards thank men 🤭
@AndrewAzul
i think men have higher standards than women
Then how are women able to be pickier in the dating game even though the population is 50/50 men and women
@AndrewAzul
men are pickiest.
Why do you think that is?
@AndrewAzul
women do not have higher standards than men.
These men who claim that they do not have high standards are also the same 48 yr old men who wouldn't date a woman unless she was at least 15 years younger than him.
@AndrewAzul
When you have 48 yr old single dads who insist that he wouldn't date a woman who is over 35, your standards are not low.
I don't really think that's standards, that's typical, date up in age and men date down in age.
@AndrewAzul
most women aren't interested in men 10+ years older. take a look at marriage statistics. vast majority of couples have less than a 10 yr age gap. its just that older men are obsessed with women 10+ years younger
If you say so but, what can you say so about the younger people who take up the majority of the dating market, how do men still have higher standards
@AndrewAzul
how do you not have high standards if you only want to date women 15-35 years younger?
Women find like only 5% of men attractive enough to enthusiastically pursue a conversation. The other 15% might get some discussions to test them out. The vast majority is deemed as unattractive not worth bothering unless you need attention to feel good about yourself. You message them back to get some compliments and than ghost them.
Men will generally pursue the woman they decided to talk to if she shows interest.
==> Women have so high standards, the bar is up in orbit around the sun at the moment.
@NoUsernameSelected
and men will only approach / date a woman as long as she is in her 20s. If she is over 30, she will be rotten trash.
40 Year old men will go for 30 year old women. Easy.
Even if they'd like a 20 year old women, they don't have the energy to keep up with them. For childless men at 38-43 a childless 30-35 year old woman is perfect, if she wants children at that point, it will be easy to get a husband. What matters is no children, wants to have children and wants to care for them and you are set. You just need to chose and tie the knot fast.
If you want a career, go for it. Nothing wrong with that, it just will make it difficult. You can't have it all, that was a lie feminists told you. Just be conscious of the decision you made and pursue it with all of your abilities. Good luck.
@NoUsernameSelected
I'm a career woman and if I can't find a husband by 35, I will just have kids on my own , by myself. what makes you think I need marriage in order to have a baby? Nowadays, people don't even want marriage. Marriage is outdated. Half of all marriages end in divorce. whats the point if getting married?
And plus, if you think I'm gonna use subpar old man sperm to make my precious baby, you're delusional. I will only make a baby with a guy under the age of 40.
@NoUsernameSelected
[40 Year old men will go for 30 year old women. Easy.
Even if they'd like a 20 year old women, they don't have the energy to keep up with them.]
its more like no 20 yr old woman is attracted to a guy in his 40s. I'm 26, I'm not attracted to old men in their 40s. I'm not looking for an aging old man with a knee that hurts or some saggy wrinkly balls
I would say I wouldn't want to have my child grow up in the single parent household.
You care so much about sperm quality, but not one bit about the overwhelming amount of statistics that say that children in a two parent household grow up better than in a single parent household? Kinda odd.
@NoUsernameSelected
why would my child be a criminal? I'm a financially well off , educated woman who can afford to live in rich neighborhoods and send my kid to the best private schools in the area. Rich kids do not need to rob or steal. I can afford to send my child to the Ivy Leagues. I make well into the 6 figure category annually.
The stereotype that single moms raise criminals is due to the fact that vast majority of single mothers are poor and under poverty. Kids born to couples tend to be better off because two working parents is more financially stable than one working parent. In other words, kids with more financial resources tend to do better in life.
@NoUsernameSelected
abcnews.go.com/.../story?id=5687285
"Those who grow up with single mothers with adequate socioeconomic resources tend to do well. The children of poor single mothers are more at risk," Biblarz says. "Many of the results that say that kids are at increased risk for negative outcomes have to do with economics."
@NoUsernameSelected
A new study from the Netherlands finds kids raised by gay or lesbian parents do better at school than kids raised by straight parents.
www.psychnewsdaily.com/.../
If you among the 3% of single mothers that can afford it financially and mentally, sure. (I know the studies)
Also why do you think I excluded homosexual partnerships? I didn't specify gender. Like I said, I know the studies. If you want a female partner go for it, I hope you do, in fact. It's better for the kid 97% of the time.
@NoUsernameSelected
there's no point in getting married anyways. Half of all marriages end up in divorce. There are plenty of kids who grow up with mom while only seeing dad once a month. Its really not uncommon.
Not saying marriage is required, just have more than one role model. It's like 100% better than only one role model. Anyway, I'm happy the conversation animosity mellowed a bit.
I think it's best now to part ways, thanks for the discussion. Bye.
@NoUsernameSelected
Many men think that women who should worry about never being able to have children. You forget that any woman could have children if she truly wanted them. Women control reproduction. She can always have kids and a family before her reproductive years are over, especially well educated, professional women who can afford it. Single women can have children, single men can't.
A lot of soft answers here. Typical of liberal GAG users. Reality is, all Jordan Petersin is doing is calling out the woke left. In return, he is triggering all the snowflakes. Pretty straight forward.
Really? Because he sounded pretty triggered when he made the comment then stomped off Twitter when everyone called him out for acting like a petulant child.
That's probably you yourself ate triggered, biased, and "offended." Individualism is the most important person in the world aka every single person. You included. The woke agenda has sized up groups against us individuals. I highly recommend listening to a ton of Jordan Peterson to get his assessment on what's really going on. I doubt you will, as your response to me is fragile and baseless at best. That tells me you're a very sensitive person who prefers to be grouped so the agenda can collectivize more power and control you even more. Don't be a sheeple. Do se research, remain open minded, and for God's sakes, think for yourself.
I’ve actually been a fan of Peterson for years. And his daughters content. I follow both of their content regularly and chatted with both of them on Instagram and I have written blog posts about them. However, I do think Jordan occasionally gets emotional, as he did here. Parts of our society are so angry that a woman can be fat and successful, and fat and considered to be beautiful and I het it because men have to work so much harder to achieve the same level of success.
I'm against the fence in believing your response. Typically, most folks on here start off in a manner you did. However, your response had substance, sensible opinion, and allowed for discourse. I respect that; therefore, not only I believe you, thank you for your insight. Duly noted.
While I do think she has a pretty face I wouldn’t be w a girl of this size. I mean I’d suck on her tits, bang her from behind as I watch that ass wave to me. But as far as dating or marriage no. I know you didn’t ask that. She does have a cute face though, just not my body type as far as a serious relationship. But I’d plow it. I know hypocritical.
Just to counter the fat-is-beautiful and politically correct nonsense, I'll be blunt. She is a fat hog. No amount of political correctness can alter reality, no matter how much they would like it to.
Preference isn’t being politically correct
@SmokinAces2000
This isn't about preferences. It's an intentional politically correct statement.
Some people find “fat people” beautiful there is nothing politically correct about that
@SmokinAces2000
I never disagreed that some people think fat people are beautiful. That's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with whether it's political correctness or not.
She's beautiful in the face, but her body is carrying too much fat, so she looks like she sits around and doesn't exercise much.
She doesn't look like she has anything to do with sports. So yes I agree with Peterson.
Would I say it? Probably not, there is too much internet porn to care about SI having some obese woman on the cover.
Whether you like larger women or not, you have to admit, the conventional beauty in her face is more or less indisputable. If she was as thin as your typical model, nobody would be saying anything. So yes, she has conventionally beautiful characteristics, but I can't say I find the rest of her physique attractive. But some people do.
Oh for fuck sake! She's gross! Yeah--definitely not hot. What a tub of lard! Remember when SI was all about SMOKING hot chicks? Ah well, OnlyFans and Instagram is where the cool kids will be. I guess SI is where the fattys and the trannies will hang.
Someone must have done something really bad to you for you to talk taht way. I feel sorry for you
@Andro36 I'm sorry Andro, but not everything is for everybody. Rolls of fat are NOT attractive. They're just not. Morbid obesity is neither healthy nor is it sexy.
Look I'm not calling her ugly per se but the tomboy gal living next doors to me would be a 10 times better choice for a sports illustrated magazine cover.
If it was cooking illustrated or something then she would be maybe a fitting choice.
She is beautiful. Man's blind. He also complained about people being mean to him and left Twitter because if it. Because it's not like he publicly shamed anyone or anything simply because he doesn't find her attractive 🙄
I agree. She's overweight, doesn't smile, and her eyes do nothing. SI is just trying to be politically correct.
She's obese, and obese women are not beautiful. She does have a very nice face and if she lost a significant amount of weight she would be beautiful.
Unexpected to see an out of shape woman on a sports illustrated magazine lol. She's beautiful to chubby chasers. If she lost a lot of weight then I'd say she would be probably.
as attractive as a bald man with plumbers crack and a hairy back. this woke shit is out of control, I can't belief how many dumb men are falling for it
yeah. i mean she definitely has a good facial structure. but she's fat. and that's not "pretty". so like i can see she would look nice if she lost weight. but not as is.
and i have no issue with fat shaming people. cause you don't have an excuse for being fat. it's your own choice to be fat.
That is outrageous bullshit! I know from my own family that being fat is NOT always a choice. My wive put on 20 pounds with each of our three children and with medical help and supervision has NOT been able to lose it. Her case is complicated by diabetes and multiple allergies. You are at best misinformed. If you fat-shamed her in front of me, you'd be eating a nonfattening knuckle sandwich! Get off your high horse and educate yourself before pontificating about something you don't know anything about!
@Keyboardkat no it's not. You can make the argument that certain conditions make it more difficult to lose weight. But you're not gonna make "being fat" equivalent to sitting in a wheelchair cause your spinal cord is broken. "That" is bullshit my dude.
@Keyboardkat women often have different priorities than "losing weight and looking hot" if they have children to care for. which i think is perfectly reasonable. though it's still her choice to be fat and you're not gonna gaslight me into thinking this is somehow my flaw.
@Keyboardkat also: if you decided to be violent and beat me about this, that's gonna be the most expensive mistake you're ever gonna make in your life after your children.
i'm sorry. that very last one with your children was a bit below the belt. i'll take that back. but the rest i mean that and i know i'm, right.
My response to you is, 1) you are rude and unnecessarily belligerent, and 2) you are simply wrong. What I have given you is absolute, scientific fact. It may be easier for you to believe otherwise because then you can justify (in your mind) fat-shaming people, but you are just plain wrong! Your stubbornness may get in your way of understanding this, that's your issue, not mine.
@Keyboardkat i am not wrong and i know it. if you do not eat, your body metabolizes itself and that makes you lose weight. your body doesn't run on magic. it runs on calories and if you put none in, it can't store any. i already said certain conditions make it more difficult but not "Impossible". you can say i'm wrong however much you want. that doesn't make me wrong.
you have not given me "absolute scientific fact" by the way. you have given your opinion that isn't based on facts that support your opinion. you're making an emotional argument that is not supported by the facts. if you eat nothing and you put nothing in your body except water, tell me, what's your body taking the energy it runs on from?
by the way. human biology is fat shaming people too. you see any 90 year old 200 pound people? i don't. it's almost like your body hates being fat, dying early.
Sorry, my friend, but you don't get the right to shame anybody for anything! I haven't read that God resigned and appointed YOU in his place to decide who is worthy and who is not. You have no right to go rampaging through life calling people names and shaming them, NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK THE REASON IS! A little humility might do wonders for your personality! No excuse for being fat? I have a bulletin for you: NOBODY OWES YOU AN EXPLANATION OR AN EXCUSE OR ANYTHING! Nobody has to try to explain to you why they're fat or fall all over themselves begging your forgiveness and understanding because they are fat! You are the arbiter of NOTHING! Understand? If you get your jollies from being cruel to others, maybe you need a checkup from the neckup!
@Keyboardkat oh now i get it. If you refer to God, that explains why of course you must be wrong.
Nobody owes me an explanation but i can shame everyone for whatever i choose. Same goes for them. They can shame me for whatever they want.
Sounds like a pleasant, wonderful existence!
@Keyboardkat trust me, existence is pure bliss, if you don't fear being put into a place of eternal suffering just cause you did something that some asshole decided he didn't like without ever telling you that before you did it. then "being good" actually becomes your own virtue instead of just acting on behalf of someones instruction.
@Keyboardkat plus: i'm not forced to give a fuck about anyones opinion. i can chose who'se opinion i value. so that's great.
I’m ok with it, you can’t please everybody and everybody has their own Preferences. The funny part is Im currently been hooking up with a redhead bbw and she’s shy