Do you agree with Dr. Jordan Peterson that the Woman Featured on the 2022 Swimsuit Edition of Sports Illustrated is not Beautiful?

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CrazyGirl2 · Accepted Answer

I know I am gonna get a LOT of crap for this but… YES! I agree w/ whoever the hell the old guy is! She is not beautiful! She may have a pretty face, but they’re not selling makeup! She literally looks unhealthy, she looks like the only workout she gets is walking to the kitchen to grab a quart of ice cream, or another slice of cheesecake! Seriously, she looks unbelievably unhealthy, and there is nobody who can convince me that she is NOT destined for future heart disease, atherosclerosis, diabetes, and/or the silent killer Hypertension! Plus, if the magazine is aimed at young men… what young guy, is jacking it to obese women, oozing out of their bikini? And if it HAS suddenly changed purpose, and now they want to sell bathing suits… what healthy young women who works our 3 to 5 nights a week is going to see THAT bikini, and think “Oh, okay I can see that on me! And what obese woman, is bathing suit shopping and thinks “huh? Yeah, I think the tiniest bikini they have will look GREAT on me? In an effort to be “INCLUSIVE “. They have managed to EXCLUDE EVERYONE! Even Victoria’s Secret and VS Pink is doing the same, when I look at their app and think “hey, those panties look nice, But what do they look like on?” Well, I will never know, because most of their models are obese now! Seriously, many MANY styles of panty, don’t have ONE image of a fit, healthy model wearing the product! I’m not buying any new STYLE of panty, if I can’t see what it looks like on… hell use a mannequin if you are morally opposed to hiring beautiful, fit models! But at LEAST give me an idea what they look like on?

Snsl153 · Accepted Answer

For once I actually agree with Jordan Peterson. She has a nice face, but she's also overweight, and that isn't healthy regardless of whether or not you think she's attractive. Why are people (like the creators of 'Sports Illustrated') now actively promoting harmful attitudes to weight? If she remains this way she'll shorten her lifespan by about 30 years.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

This is just Sports Illustrated submitting to woke culture/PC pressure. Fuck 'em!

MzAsh · Answer

She may be big, but I think she’s beautiful. And many men find her beautiful. Jordan Peterson can only speak for himself on his opinion. And I’m sure his opinion doesn’t mean squat to her.

Keyboardkat · Answer

No, I do not agree. First, as they say in Latin, "De gustibus non disputandum est," or "There is no disputing taste." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She is not beautiful to him. But he cannot make a pronouncement as if from up on High, as if he is laying down as an established uncontrovertible fact that she's not beautiful. Some guys actually prefer girls who look like women, and not like broom handles! She actually has curves! I love that! Women are SUPPOSED to have curves, for heaven's sake!!!
There's only one thing she's missing, which would make her really beautiful, and that accessory is a smile! The girl in the pictures just looks unhappy. Maybe she is. Maybe she doesn't like being put up as a target for Jordan Peterson or for some of the other
"connoisseurs of women" who have made their holy pronouncements on here!
First, guys, how do you know she doesn't care about her health? NOT ALL BODY FAT IS A RESULT OF OVEREATING! I know that comes as a real shock to some of you! There ARE people with hormonal or metabolic problems, whether you want to believe that or not! My wife happens to be one of them. Have you ever heard of metabolic syndrome or insulin insensitivity? Do you know that insulin is a fat-depositing hormone, in addition to whatever it may do for diabetics?
Do you know that a woman who looks like a broom handle, like the fashion models of today, four of whom will share one hamburger for lunch, a woman with almost no body fat will not menstruate? I knew a woman like this. She was a runner and jogger and she couldn't have a baby so long as she looked like that, because her cycle had stopped. There is a biological defense to body fat which makes losing weight extraordinarily difficult for most people and virtually impossible for some! The problem is that the people who design women's fashions often happen to be of a certain sexual persuasion and they want women to look like little boys! Gross you out! It grosses me out, too! But fashion models HAVE to look like that or they won't be hired. So the whole population, men and women, have become conditioned to that stupid, starved look as something good. It is not!

MCheetah · Answer

I would say she's not beautiful, and it's not because she's overweight. It's because she's not attractive looking (pretty), she has small boobs despite being overweight, and she's "sloppy" plus-sized (fat) as opposed to "neat" plus sized. Despite @Mia-Wallace 's implications that all non-skinny women are disgusting landwhales, there is a way to be hot while being plus sized. Look at Ashley Graham or Iskra Lawrence. She is more deserving of the cover than this not pretty looking, sloppy-fat model with small breasts.

Do you agree with Dr. Jordan Peterson that the Woman Featured on the 2022 Swimsuit Edition of Sports Illustrated is not Beautiful?

I guess she's too obese and nasty to not be a kink/fetish, Mia? Not to say, others can't find this model Sports Illustrated chose to be attractive. Beauty is subjective. Just that there are other more deserving models, in my opinion. And let's be honest, she was ONLY chosen for "body positivity"/"fat acceptance" purposes, because the majority of (white) men would not find this model the least bit attractive. As a said, Ashley Graham is a more mainstream level of plus-sized. This model is not even attractive to a "chubby-f*cker" like me!

Puppystarfish23 · Answer

I agree with most of what Dr. Jordan Peterson says but this not so much. I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder and he is not to say what is and isn't beautiful as it's down to everyone's person opinions and taste. Plus I don't think people like him should be bothered about these things it's not that important and no one in the real world really cares we have bigger fish to fry then worrying about Harry styles wearing a dress or a fat girl on the front of a magazine.

Now if he was saying this kind of thing was dangerous and glorifying obesity to young impressionable girls then I'd get on side. I think this kind of thing is just as bad as showing a girl with her bones sticking out on the front of a magazine. It just as bad as being anorexic and should be treated as the same bouth are eating disorders but people don't see it that way. I come from a family of very big people and I'm scared for the life of me of getting that way as I see what it does to people and I see it as a mental illness just like anorexia is seen.

Magazines should be showing nothing but healthy body's. Why not have a Olympic athlete or someone of the sort on the cover. That's something young girls can aspire to be and see the work they've put into having that body.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

No. I respect Peterson and appreciate what he’s trying to say, particularly in regards to it being Sports Illustrated. However, i like curvy women and she’s only slightly bigger than what i would consider ideal for myself. I also tend to prefer dark hair, dark eyes and dark complexion. She’s actually pretty hot, in my opinion.
That said, she’s not necessarily the right choice for SI, but neither were any of the skinny models of the past that couldn’t run a mile if their lives depended on it. It’s not like SI puts exclusively athletic models on their covers, let alone in the annual swimsuit edition.
More to the point, the “body positivity” movement has simultaneously gone too far and not far enough. Glorifying morbidly obese women is shameful. Being obese is a health crisis and a tiny minority of people prefer that body type, at most. Meanwhile, the movement hasn’t reached men at all. “Body positivity” is exclusively for the benefit of females. It’s still perfectly acceptable and even expected to make fun of fat males right up to the point where they kill themselves, and NOBODY GIVES A SHIT. That’s all i’ve got to say about that.

DaveJord · Answer

I have seen some plus models that are super sexy, but this one doesn't seem appealing to me.

So this is the cancel culture shit, trying to redefine what we think of as sexy because let's be honest... there's a lot of fat people in the world. So for 90% of guys this women might be more achievable or approachable to them.. and there by more sexy.

So I conceed the piont... but she's not SI swim suit worthy to me. Its a political thing meant to appease fat women and avoid political outcry from feminist for sensationalising women as sexy symbols.

Its pandering and appeasement.

ZackBan · Answer

Do I think she's ugly? Not really.
But does she have any business being the cover of a magazines who's name starts with "sports"? Absolutely not.

She's an unhealthy person who makes unhealthy decisions, it might be fine for her but obesity is a dangerous and deadly disease and she his helping set a messed up standard in an already messed up world.

To me promoting her and that body is the same as putting a crackhead as the cover while claiming crack is a choice and shouldn't be something you judge people over.

fivetoes · Answer

She has a pretty face, even as a female I would have to agree with Dr Jordan Peterson that she's not beautiful on the outside. Perhaps she's beautiful inside. She should not have squeezed into those bathing suits, if she was thinner than maybe my opinion would change.
At my age I wouldn't bother looking at the bathing suits that she's modeling. Perhaps people (especially males) consider her beautiful though I doubt they're looking at the suit itself. The majority of men who drifted into and out of my life over the years liked my large perfect breasts when I was in my late teens and into my 50's.
My apologies for distraction from the subject at hand.

BCA6010 · Answer

If they showed only her head and face, she'd look exponentially better. There's not many better examples of how devastating the course of the "body positivity" movement has been in promoting unhealthy lifestyles, which if one didn't know better, would seem idiotic for "Sports Illustrated" magazine to support.

The demographic of men who find very obese women attractive is extremely small, definitely too small to justify pandering to as a business model for a fairly large magazine, and the majority of people who actually buy into this stuff (other overweight women looking for validation) more than likely aren't buying Sports Illustrated magazine. This is entirely political virtue signaling, and Jordan is pretty justified in calling it out through his personal opinion.

Bob92220 · Answer

I don't agree with Dr. Peterson but in that context I do.

Let's say there is a famous magazine called, "Intelligent People Illustrated" and each month they feature smart people who have done great things. Then they put someone up with average IQ. Do you think this person is super smart? He could be but in that magazine context, he isn't. That is, compared to all the other people illustrated.

So when you compare her in that context, with all those other women, she isn't beautiful. I hope I'm explaining this clearly.

Daniela1982 · Answer

What's funny is that her face doesn't show any fat and looks completely normal. You might even think it was a photo shop. I'm also sure that a makeup artist worked her over for the shoot. My bod was like that when I was overweight by 60 pounds and I definitely was not considered beautiful, and also bullied because of my weight

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jennifer_bloom · Answer

Obesity is not a healthy ideal but it’s been studied that 80% of obese women were sexually molested as children and over 25% are raped or physically abused beyond the normal range of physical disciplines loving parents give kids. Therefore, I do not believe vilifying or perpetuating negative stereotypes about the laziness of fat people is necessary, because I come from a Christian background where I’m taught that every human being on earth has flaws and flawed people do not have the right to judge flawed people, I also know people who eat healthy but are fat due to metabolic issues like insulin resistance or anti psychotic medications or heart medications and some people are so poor that they eat unhealthy food because they can’t afford tomatoes etc…

USLegionary · Answer

The question is really why is sports illustrated trying to normalise fat women on their covers?
They can't even use the excuse that they are promoting average women of a healthy weight rather than models because these women are fat plain and simple. Why is every male in sports illustrated not only in shape but shredded rather than a pot bellied dad bod guy?
As far Jordan Peterson he recently seems to be actively trying to be as controversial as he possibly can to get a media reaction or cause a big stink probably to sell a new book or something related to money...

Seinna · Answer

Why do people always feel entitled to comment on other's appearance - specifically women's? Why are we commenting on it? If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to buy it.

Also, he's entitled to his opinion, yes... but it's obnoxious to scream it from the rooftops.

I just think it's tactless, people lack common courtesy nowadays and are impressed with rudeness. Just to name examples, Simon Cowell or Gordon Ramsay. I hate this, why are we not only allowing it but encourage and willingly participate in it? To then turn around and complain about humanity, but we help to create and maintain this shittiness.

This Dr. Jordan Peterson, I've no idea who he is but he tries to look so smart and dresses up so nicely but shows himself to be a nasty boorish person. I guess clothes don't make the man.

SaraSmithishere · Answer

It’s nepotism, so does it even matter? Her grandfather is Rocky Aoki, who runs a popular chain of restaurants in LA (where I live!) called Benihana, and her uncle is the famous DJ Steve Aoki, and her aunt is Devon Aoki, who is a half-Asian-half-white “model”, who, at 5’7”, was also walked into the industry due to her father’s wealth and fame.

SlothySlob · Answer

Yes.
Beauty is more than just outward appearance. In my mind, she's the epitome of modern day America.
Being fat is easy, putting on makeup is easy, posing is easy.
I love the speech JFK said about putting a man on the moon. But that's an America of the past.

Sargentcaptain · Answer

The elephant in the room aside, so to speak, she has more paint on her face than I have on my walls. It'll never not amaze me that people consider smearing chemicals and toxins on their faces to be beautiful, rewarding insecurity and playing into the hands of companies making millions of dollars thanks to it.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

Not my ideal. In their defense, I've seen thin women that could pass for poodles. Still, featuring these gals on Sports Illustrated seems to be making a mockery of what came before it. Such mockery used to only feature in works like Mad Magazine. Now, reality IS the joke, and Mad serves no purpose.

bademoxy · Answer

as a straight white male, apparently I'm not allowed to have preferences!
THIS is a cultural war, in which there are no winners, only a destroyed civilization.
The Left KNOWS they cannot recreate what we have created, so they seek to build a new transhuman species fit for socialism , from global depopulation and our society's ashes.

ManOnFire · Answer

Jordan Peterson has some interesting things to say from time to time but not sure I follow him on this one. She's a bit large, but her face is pretty and I do like her arms and shoulders, they are sexy yeah.

The women who are not beautiful to me are blonde, flat chested twigs you see on other magazine covers.

ShadezMcgee · Answer

In the face I will say yes, but overall when you think sports and what not you picture athletes in good condition, not plus sized or pushing obese. Sports Illustrated you want to see athletes or in shape individuals, not something equivalent to plus sized or bigger catalogues.

Wrong market and advertising.

LovingLoverReturned · Answer

Be reasonable people. I'm slim. I know a lot of thick women. The woman in the photo is clearly TALL and, yes while overweight, she is not morbidly obese..

Maybe she is not beautiful in body to some and in face... but being fat doesn't make your face ugly.

globetrotter22 · Answer

Guys (and girls) if you are sick of this bs than never ever buy or subscribe to sports illustrated or any other publication that pushed this “body positivity” crap.

Money speaks. Let sports illustrated observe a huge drop in revenue from this crap. Don’t give them a penny. This also applied to ESPN and all their woke insanity. After they started pushing BLM insanity I completely quit watching the NFL.

WhereIsMyMind · Answer

She is not unattractive in my opinion. But for a magazine that is supposed to be all about fitness and wellbeing (I assume?), I would find it inappropriate to not have a more athletic person on the cover.

DermalPunch · Answer

Forget her body shape and size. If we will take the symmetry of the face standard, no she isn't beautiful.

There are a lot of men, many who are afraid to admit openly, who actually like a fat woman. Yes, she is fat. She is shapely indeed but shebis fat. They would find this tittilating.

98.79% of straight men would if they came home and she was spread eagle and waiting so don't be rude. Including Mr. Peterson.

Jaguarsxr051 · Answer

She has Nice face. But she's not for swimsuit.
Generally modern women are hypocrites they call the fat lady oversized or big beautiful woman but fat man is fat for them I have see. Woman turn down nice guys because of their cars like just because they drive an old Honda or Toyota. It's rare to find good woman these days

ODC2112 · Answer

In the face she is beautiful, but overall she is ugly. She is a woman with obvious health problems. She is heavily overweight close to obesity. I completely agree with Peterson.

The fact that some men like her doesn't make her generally beautiful.

KelleyNice · Answer

Looks like Sports Illustrated wants to go bankrupt.

Anonymous · Answer

Nearly 70% of men (and rising) are voting No.

The sad thing is, if she didn't intentionally fatten herself she would have been very beautiful. Those that voted yes probably misread the question as "would you still F", but guys are generally have lower standards than women when it comes to this.

Admit it ladies, if this was a Guy you'd vote the same way or worse.
Stop the double standard.

Tinana · Answer

She’s beautiful I don’t agree. I understand her weight isn’t healthy but she’s not morbidly obese. There’s nothing wrong being that size it’s okay. I also understand that you’d expect fit women on sports illustrated and not her but anyone who says she isn’t beautiful nah you have to ce heck your eyes. Her face is just beautiful

Dalton69 · Answer

She has a pretty face, but no. Her body is not beautiful. And that’s not because society tells me thin is beautiful I believe. It’s part of our DNA. We come from 1000s of years of Hunter gatherers, our ancestors were constantly thin and strong. So we innately desire this.

Quigly · Answer

I agree,

She is unhealthy, Women in society should strive to be as healthy as they can.

The name of the magazine is SPORTS Illustrated.

Does that women look athletic at all?
NO, she looks like she just ate an entire bag of potato chips from the kitchen and looking for more while sitting around all day watching the tv.

Cody2004 · Answer

I don't know who he is but I don't really look at it from the beauty perspective I look at it from the sports perspective and then they just slap something like this on a Sports magazine I'm only in high school but I have I guess classmates or whatever you'd call them during like swim clubs or gymnastics that put a lot of hard work into this just to get slapped across the face like this and it's no wonder some of them are pissed off

AMS700CX4u2 · Answer

By the Barbie Doll standards of us baby boomers, no.. But by the standards of ancient times, when an obese woman was more likely to produce multiple offpring, yes. American are living in a unique point in time. We are living in a time when food is plentiful, if not, our biggest problem. Furthermore, a woman is so much more than just a body. You haven't spoken to her. You don't know what she is doing with her life. There are too many variables in life to be that judgmental.

fonduegirl · Answer

I think they could have hired more beautiful, curvy models. The doctor mustn't fat shame her though.

Wraith_Cemetery · Answer

Her face is alright I suppose. The problem that those bikinis look disgusting on her. Not flattering at all. Women these days have no idea how to dress themselves for their proportions. They just throw whatever they want on and call it a day.

Anonymous · Answer

I voted No by mistake. I meant to vote Yes, I agree with Peterson. I understand the desire to change beauty standards and be more accepting of larger women, but it will never change what we are genetically wired to find attractive. It's no different than expecting women to find men who are balding and have a gut physically attractive. That's just nature.

She has a reasonably pretty face after all the makeup and airbrushing, but her body is a no-go for me.

Anonymous · Answer

in the past the majority of models they used at least looked like they could have been athletes to some degree. this lady seems like she most likely never competed in sports at all or at least not in the last several years. also looks to have resting bitch face but going by these photos of her.

Tyrael · Answer

I agree she doesn't belong on the cover of sports illustrated and neither did the rest of them. Jordan is almost always 100% spot on with his observations and he doesn't do it to be spiteful or mean either.

trumpets310 · Answer

I voted that I disagree, but I also think it's completely uncalled for. There's no need for a professor to be commenting on the looks of a woman on the internet unless she specifically asked for his opinion.
There are also plenty of people with different tastes in beauty, so no one person is everyone's type. His comment was just poorly thought out all around

BeMuse · Answer

What else would you expect. Black men are on their knees in sports wearing pink while transsexual cheerleaders wave their dongs in their face. Pro sports are gay, they aren't attracted to beautiful women.

DarkWinterNights · Answer

His point wasn’t to disparage her personally, his point was everyone’s so afraid to speak out about how they truly feel and are being intimidated to conform to these unhealthy and dangerous societal pressures that are doing irreparable damage to the next generation.

shaysh87 · Answer

why would it matter so much if she is beautiful or not? are women still sexual objects to men? you're the reason why so many women die getting Brazilian butt lift surgeries. Incredibly high standards when it comes to a woman's physical appearance.

why is there so much negativity on overweight women when there is no negativity on saggy, old, wrinkly men with saggy balls that don't work?

Zeus_66 · Answer

A lot of soft answers here. Typical of liberal GAG users. Reality is, all Jordan Petersin is doing is calling out the woke left. In return, he is triggering all the snowflakes. Pretty straight forward.

Anonymous · Answer

While I do think she has a pretty face I wouldn’t be w a girl of this size. I mean I’d suck on her tits, bang her from behind as I watch that ass wave to me. But as far as dating or marriage no. I know you didn’t ask that. She does have a cute face though, just not my body type as far as a serious relationship. But I’d plow it. I know hypocritical.

WindAtMyBack · Answer

Just to counter the fat-is-beautiful and politically correct nonsense, I'll be blunt. She is a fat hog. No amount of political correctness can alter reality, no matter how much they would like it to.

Anonymous · Answer

Maybe to skinny scrawny little D-K white guys.
But not too BROS out there. Some handsome bros out there would gladly Go Deep Inside, or turn her into wifey. And they tend to have FULL BLOWN Bananas.
So….

So yeah, expect those to say NO.
To be NO GOOD, scrawny, skinny, little D-K , white dudes.

ITS THE TRUTH

MarkRet · Answer

She's beautiful in the face, but her body is carrying too much fat, so she looks like she sits around and doesn't exercise much.

NoUsernameSelected · Answer

She doesn't look like she has anything to do with sports. So yes I agree with Peterson. Would I say it? Probably not, there is too much internet porn to care about SI having some obese woman on the cover.

crmoore · Answer

Whether you like larger women or not, you have to admit, the conventional beauty in her face is more or less indisputable. If she was as thin as your typical model, nobody would be saying anything. So yes, she has conventionally beautiful characteristics, but I can't say I find the rest of her physique attractive. But some people do.

Anonymous · Answer

Oh for fuck sake! She's gross! Yeah--definitely not hot. What a tub of lard! Remember when SI was all about SMOKING hot chicks? Ah well, OnlyFans and Instagram is where the cool kids will be. I guess SI is where the fattys and the trannies will hang.

Smashingdoozy · Answer

She is beautiful. Man's blind. He also complained about people being mean to him and left Twitter because if it. Because it's not like he publicly shamed anyone or anything simply because he doesn't find her attractive 🙄

AviatorTom · Answer

I agree. She's overweight, doesn't smile, and her eyes do nothing. SI is just trying to be politically correct.

Avicenna · Answer

She's obese, and obese women are not beautiful. She does have a very nice face and if she lost a significant amount of weight she would be beautiful.

Hairylegs222 · Answer

Unexpected to see an out of shape woman on a sports illustrated magazine lol. She's beautiful to chubby chasers. If she lost a lot of weight then I'd say she would be probably.

notwoke · Answer

as attractive as a bald man with plumbers crack and a hairy back. this woke shit is out of control, I can't belief how many dumb men are falling for it

genericname85 · Answer

yeah. i mean she definitely has a good facial structure. but she's fat. and that's not "pretty". so like i can see she would look nice if she lost weight. but not as is.

KingofCups · Answer

Attractive but definitely not healthy. She would be much more attractive if she was fit. This bullshit body positivity movement got everyone thinking they can just eat whatever, never exercise and still be beautiful.

Pohjolan · Answer

Look I'm not calling her ugly per se but the tomboy gal living next doors to me would be a 10 times better choice for a sports illustrated magazine cover. If it was cooking illustrated or something then she would be maybe a fitting choice.

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