Do you agree with Dr. Jordan Peterson that the Woman Featured on the 2022 Swimsuit Edition of Sports Illustrated is not Beautiful?

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CrazyGirl2 · Accepted Answer

I know I am gonna get a LOT of crap for this but… YES! I agree w/ whoever the hell the old guy is! She is not beautiful! She may have a pretty face, but they’re not selling makeup! She literally looks unhealthy, she looks like the only workout she gets is walking to the kitchen to grab a quart of ice cream, or another slice of cheesecake! Seriously, she looks unbelievably unhealthy, and there is nobody who can convince me that she is NOT destined for future heart disease, atherosclerosis, diabetes, and/or the silent killer Hypertension! Plus, if the magazine is aimed at young men… what young guy, is jacking it to obese women, oozing out of their bikini? And if it HAS suddenly changed purpose, and now they want to sell bathing suits… what healthy young women who works our 3 to 5 nights a week is going to see THAT bikini, and think “Oh, okay I can see that on me! And what obese woman, is bathing suit shopping and thinks “huh? Yeah, I think the tiniest bikini they have will look GREAT on me? In an effort to be “INCLUSIVE “. They have managed to EXCLUDE EVERYONE! Even Victoria’s Secret and VS Pink is doing the same, when I look at their app and think “hey, those panties look nice, But what do they look like on?” Well, I will never know, because most of their models are obese now! Seriously, many MANY styles of panty, don’t have ONE image of a fit, healthy model wearing the product! I’m not buying any new STYLE of panty, if I can’t see what it looks like on… hell use a mannequin if you are morally opposed to hiring beautiful, fit models! But at LEAST give me an idea what they look like on?

Snsl153 · Accepted Answer

For once I actually agree with Jordan Peterson. She has a nice face, but she's also overweight, and that isn't healthy regardless of whether or not you think she's attractive. Why are people (like the creators of 'Sports Illustrated') now actively promoting harmful attitudes to weight? If she remains this way she'll shorten her lifespan by about 30 years.

OlderAndWiser · Answer

This is just Sports Illustrated submitting to woke culture/PC pressure. Fuck 'em!

MzAsh · Answer

She may be big, but I think she’s beautiful. And many men find her beautiful. Jordan Peterson can only speak for himself on his opinion. And I’m sure his opinion doesn’t mean squat to her.

Keyboardkat · Answer

No, I do not agree. First, as they say in Latin, "De gustibus non disputandum est," or "There is no disputing taste." Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She is not beautiful to him. But he cannot make a pronouncement as if from up on High, as if he is laying down as an established uncontrovertible fact that she's not beautiful. Some guys actually prefer girls who look like women, and not like broom handles! She actually has curves! I love that! Women are SUPPOSED to have curves, for heaven's sake!!!
There's only one thing she's missing, which would make her really beautiful, and that accessory is a smile! The girl in the pictures just looks unhappy. Maybe she is. Maybe she doesn't like being put up as a target for Jordan Peterson or for some of the other
"connoisseurs of women" who have made their holy pronouncements on here!
First, guys, how do you know she doesn't care about her health? NOT ALL BODY FAT IS A RESULT OF OVEREATING! I know that comes as a real shock to some of you! There ARE people with hormonal or metabolic problems, whether you want to believe that or not! My wife happens to be one of them. Have you ever heard of metabolic syndrome or insulin insensitivity? Do you know that insulin is a fat-depositing hormone, in addition to whatever it may do for diabetics?
Do you know that a woman who looks like a broom handle, like the fashion models of today, four of whom will share one hamburger for lunch, a woman with almost no body fat will not menstruate? I knew a woman like this. She was a runner and jogger and she couldn't have a baby so long as she looked like that, because her cycle had stopped. There is a biological defense to body fat which makes losing weight extraordinarily difficult for most people and virtually impossible for some! The problem is that the people who design women's fashions often happen to be of a certain sexual persuasion and they want women to look like little boys! Gross you out! It grosses me out, too! But fashion models HAVE to look like that or they won't be hired. So the whole population, men and women, have become conditioned to that stupid, starved look as something good. It is not!

MCheetah · Answer

I would say she's not beautiful, and it's not because she's overweight. It's because she's not attractive looking (pretty), she has small boobs despite being overweight, and she's "sloppy" plus-sized (fat) as opposed to "neat" plus sized. Despite @Mia-Wallace 's implications that all non-skinny women are disgusting landwhales, there is a way to be hot while being plus sized. Look at Ashley Graham or Iskra Lawrence. She is more deserving of the cover than this not pretty looking, sloppy-fat model with small breasts.

Do you agree with Dr. Jordan Peterson that the Woman Featured on the 2022 Swimsuit Edition of Sports Illustrated is not Beautiful?

I guess she's too obese and nasty to not be a kink/fetish, Mia? Not to say, others can't find this model Sports Illustrated chose to be attractive. Beauty is subjective. Just that there are other more deserving models, in my opinion. And let's be honest, she was ONLY chosen for "body positivity"/"fat acceptance" purposes, because the majority of (white) men would not find this model the least bit attractive. As a said, Ashley Graham is a more mainstream level of plus-sized. This model is not even attractive to a "chubby-f*cker" like me!

Puppystarfish23 · Answer

I agree with most of what Dr. Jordan Peterson says but this not so much. I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder and he is not to say what is and isn't beautiful as it's down to everyone's person opinions and taste. Plus I don't think people like him should be bothered about these things it's not that important and no one in the real world really cares we have bigger fish to fry then worrying about Harry styles wearing a dress or a fat girl on the front of a magazine.

Now if he was saying this kind of thing was dangerous and glorifying obesity to young impressionable girls then I'd get on side. I think this kind of thing is just as bad as showing a girl with her bones sticking out on the front of a magazine. It just as bad as being anorexic and should be treated as the same bouth are eating disorders but people don't see it that way. I come from a family of very big people and I'm scared for the life of me of getting that way as I see what it does to people and I see it as a mental illness just like anorexia is seen.

Magazines should be showing nothing but healthy body's. Why not have a Olympic athlete or someone of the sort on the cover. That's something young girls can aspire to be and see the work they've put into having that body.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

No. I respect Peterson and appreciate what he’s trying to say, particularly in regards to it being Sports Illustrated. However, i like curvy women and she’s only slightly bigger than what i would consider ideal for myself. I also tend to prefer dark hair, dark eyes and dark complexion. She’s actually pretty hot, in my opinion.
That said, she’s not necessarily the right choice for SI, but neither were any of the skinny models of the past that couldn’t run a mile if their lives depended on it. It’s not like SI puts exclusively athletic models on their covers, let alone in the annual swimsuit edition.
More to the point, the “body positivity” movement has simultaneously gone too far and not far enough. Glorifying morbidly obese women is shameful. Being obese is a health crisis and a tiny minority of people prefer that body type, at most. Meanwhile, the movement hasn’t reached men at all. “Body positivity” is exclusively for the benefit of females. It’s still perfectly acceptable and even expected to make fun of fat males right up to the point where they kill themselves, and NOBODY GIVES A SHIT. That’s all i’ve got to say about that.

DaveJord · Answer

I have seen some plus models that are super sexy, but this one doesn't seem appealing to me.

So this is the cancel culture shit, trying to redefine what we think of as sexy because let's be honest... there's a lot of fat people in the world. So for 90% of guys this women might be more achievable or approachable to them.. and there by more sexy.

So I conceed the piont... but she's not SI swim suit worthy to me. Its a political thing meant to appease fat women and avoid political outcry from feminist for sensationalising women as sexy symbols.

Its pandering and appeasement.

ZackBan · Answer

Do I think she's ugly? Not really.
But does she have any business being the cover of a magazines who's name starts with "sports"? Absolutely not.

She's an unhealthy person who makes unhealthy decisions, it might be fine for her but obesity is a dangerous and deadly disease and she his helping set a messed up standard in an already messed up world.

To me promoting her and that body is the same as putting a crackhead as the cover while claiming crack is a choice and shouldn't be something you judge people over.

fivetoes · Answer

She has a pretty face, even as a female I would have to agree with Dr Jordan Peterson that she's not beautiful on the outside. Perhaps she's beautiful inside. She should not have squeezed into those bathing suits, if she was thinner than maybe my opinion would change.
At my age I wouldn't bother looking at the bathing suits that she's modeling. Perhaps people (especially males) consider her beautiful though I doubt they're looking at the suit itself. The majority of men who drifted into and out of my life over the years liked my large perfect breasts when I was in my late teens and into my 50's.
My apologies for distraction from the subject at hand.

BCA6010 · Answer

If they showed only her head and face, she'd look exponentially better. There's not many better examples of how devastating the course of the "body positivity" movement has been in promoting unhealthy lifestyles, which if one didn't know better, would seem idiotic for "Sports Illustrated" magazine to support.

The demographic of men who find very obese women attractive is extremely small, definitely too small to justify pandering to as a business model for a fairly large magazine, and the majority of people who actually buy into this stuff (other overweight women looking for validation) more than likely aren't buying Sports Illustrated magazine. This is entirely political virtue signaling, and Jordan is pretty justified in calling it out through his personal opinion.

Bob92220 · Answer

I don't agree with Dr. Peterson but in that context I do.

Let's say there is a famous magazine called, "Intelligent People Illustrated" and each month they feature smart people who have done great things. Then they put someone up with average IQ. Do you think this person is super smart? He could be but in that magazine context, he isn't. That is, compared to all the other people illustrated.

So when you compare her in that context, with all those other women, she isn't beautiful. I hope I'm explaining this clearly.

Daniela1982 · Answer

What's funny is that her face doesn't show any fat and looks completely normal. You might even think it was a photo shop. I'm also sure that a makeup artist worked her over for the shoot. My bod was like that when I was overweight by 60 pounds and I definitely was not considered beautiful, and also bullied because of my weight

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jennifer_bloom · Answer

Obesity is not a healthy ideal but it’s been studied that 80% of obese women were sexually molested as children and over 25% are raped or physically abused beyond the normal range of physical disciplines loving parents give kids. Therefore, I do not believe vilifying or perpetuating negative stereotypes about the laziness of fat people is necessary, because I come from a Christian background where I’m taught that every human being on earth has flaws and flawed people do not have the right to judge flawed people, I also know people who eat healthy but are fat due to metabolic issues like insulin resistance or anti psychotic medications or heart medications and some people are so poor that they eat unhealthy food because they can’t afford tomatoes etc…

USLegionary · Answer

The question is really why is sports illustrated trying to normalise fat women on their covers?
They can't even use the excuse that they are promoting average women of a healthy weight rather than models because these women are fat plain and simple. Why is every male in sports illustrated not only in shape but shredded rather than a pot bellied dad bod guy?
As far Jordan Peterson he recently seems to be actively trying to be as controversial as he possibly can to get a media reaction or cause a big stink probably to sell a new book or something related to money...

Seinna · Answer

Why do people always feel entitled to comment on other's appearance - specifically women's? Why are we commenting on it? If he doesn't like it, he doesn't have to buy it.

Also, he's entitled to his opinion, yes... but it's obnoxious to scream it from the rooftops.

I just think it's tactless, people lack common courtesy nowadays and are impressed with rudeness. Just to name examples, Simon Cowell or Gordon Ramsay. I hate this, why are we not only allowing it but encourage and willingly participate in it? To then turn around and complain about humanity, but we help to create and maintain this shittiness.

This Dr. Jordan Peterson, I've no idea who he is but he tries to look so smart and dresses up so nicely but shows himself to be a nasty boorish person. I guess clothes don't make the man.

SaraSmithishere · Answer

It’s nepotism, so does it even matter? Her grandfather is Rocky Aoki, who runs a popular chain of restaurants in LA (where I live!) called Benihana, and her uncle is the famous DJ Steve Aoki, and her aunt is Devon Aoki, who is a half-Asian-half-white “model”, who, at 5’7”, was also walked into the industry due to her father’s wealth and fame.

SlothySlob · Answer

Yes.
Beauty is more than just outward appearance. In my mind, she's the epitome of modern day America.
Being fat is easy, putting on makeup is easy, posing is easy.
I love the speech JFK said about putting a man on the moon. But that's an America of the past.

Sargentcaptain · Answer

The elephant in the room aside, so to speak, she has more paint on her face than I have on my walls. It'll never not amaze me that people consider smearing chemicals and toxins on their faces to be beautiful, rewarding insecurity and playing into the hands of companies making millions of dollars thanks to it.

ObscuredBeyond · Answer

Not my ideal. In their defense, I've seen thin women that could pass for poodles. Still, featuring these gals on Sports Illustrated seems to be making a mockery of what came before it. Such mockery used to only feature in works like Mad Magazine. Now, reality IS the joke, and Mad serves no purpose.

bademoxy · Answer

as a straight white male, apparently I'm not allowed to have preferences!
THIS is a cultural war, in which there are no winners, only a destroyed civilization.
The Left KNOWS they cannot recreate what we have created, so they seek to build a new transhuman species fit for socialism , from global depopulation and our society's ashes.

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