Do you think men's rights & issues aren't being taken seriously? If so, what are possible solutions to better this?

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NamerOfStars · Accepted Answer

Ask Marc Angelucci- oh, wait.

Look at Warren Farrell: a man with the demeanor of Captain Kangaroo and the message of Fred Rogers (check his books if you don't believe me; he's doing nothing but calling for basic empathy and better communication). Look at the protests he got when he went to speak at the University of Toronto- find video, if you can. People literally BLOCKING THE ENTRANCE to the auditorium, to keep him from being able to speak.

Look at Governor Ron DeSantis, a man clearly unafraid of controversy, who challenged the worldwide narrative on the dangers of Covid and the best response to it, and HELD to that, in the face of constant withering criticism. Then a bill came to his desk that would've made 50/50 custody of children the default in divorce cases- and the pressure he got was so strong that he vetoed it.

Look at Erin Pizzey: a hero by any honest definition. Opened the world's first battered women's shelter, giving these women and their children a place to escape to and hide. More importantly, giving them HOPE that their abuse wasn't what they were doomed to forever, and that things could change, even in a seemingly impossible situation. Unfortunately, Erin was honest enough to point out that most of these women had serious problems themselves, and weren't innocent and perfect angels, and that fixing their problems beyond the most immediate sense would require real efforts at self-improvement, which infuriated the Feminist movement. And she pointed out that there were battered *men* who needed help, too, and that was a bridge too far- the retaliation escalated into straight-up MURDER attempts, and she had to flee the country.

The problem here, unfortunately, is the Feminist movement. It didn't start out that way; time was, the difficulties the sexes faced were outgrowths of the situation were evolved in. As time passed, and victory after victory by egalitarian sentiments handed women more and more rights, the Feminist movement eventually reached the point where women had, essentially, full legal parity with men. "Great!" said many of them "We won!". And they left, having achieved their goals.

But many more stuck around, since they'd made a living out of The Cause, and weren't going to go get honest jobs. They began rewriting the narrative, telling the world that women were historically oppressed (instead of the truth, which is that they were protected, which also means restricted, and that these restrictions were often onerous, and had little place in a modern society), and that any difference in the social or economic outcomes between the sexes was the result of discrimination (absolute nonsense), that much of that discrimination was due to biases the discriminator wasn't even aware of (so there was no way to defend against the allegation), and that men and women were, body parts aside, no different from one another (the most frequently debunked theory in the whole field of sociology). But few were willing to stand openly against the movement that had been a central part (no, not the only part; that's historical revision again) taken down so many bigoted laws and policies. Give a read to Earnest Belfort Bax's The Fraud of Feminism, which points out all the flaws of the movement, and how it utterly fails to be anything like it claims it is. Then note the publication date: the book was written in 1913, over a century ago. The claims that modern Feminism is "corrupted" or "not what it started out as" are yet more revisionism.

It's not so simple as "Feminism bad", however- the deeper problem is those instinctive drives that push to respect men and empathize with women. They're universal, they run VERY deep within us, and almost no one is willing to declare war on their own brain to keep them from controlling our actions. This is why people roundly condemn the treatment of Emmett Till, but praise the MeToo movement, which is exactly the same thing. Without the necessary self-reflection, the only way forward is to force women into the same position men are in, then change policies to protect EVERYONE. I don't like this; I hate the very idea. But unless and until people are willing to treat men as human, it's the only way forward.

HighValue · Accepted Answer

The only way it will change is if people organize petitions and get enough signatures to get laws on the ballot to vote on. The only way that will work is if WOMEN are the ones to organize it because if they don't, most women will vote against it and nothing will change.

The problem is that most women don't want men to have equal rights at all when it comes to child custody, divorce (theft by women and courts), jail sentencing for the same crimes, required paternity testing at birth before signing a birth certificate, etc. Even the women that claim to be for equality will NEVER do anything to get a proposed law on the ballot that would help men's rights. They only want preferential treatment, NOT equality.

BeeNee · Accepted Answer

One cannot look at men's or women's rights in a vacuum. There are people who say, well look at women's liberation or look at Me Too---CLEARLY women have more rights, but this is an absolute failure historically to look at these problems and just how many decades and centuries of time it took for these things to take effect or to be taken seriously.

Men are in the same boat in a lot of regards that women have been in for centuries in terms of trying to secure their rights. Women have come from a place where we had no rights to land, to own property, to vote, to hold positions of power, to hold guardianship of our own children, to get an education, and we're still fighting for reproductive rights etc...and that's just in the US. That doesn't take into account women around the globe, which SURPRISE, exist too, many of whom are still fighting for a right to an education or the ability to walk the streets not fully covered from head to toe without being killed.

Men have dominated law on a global scale. They have held the reigns of power for centuries. In many countries they still have absolute power, but with anything involving rights, it's not a one sided thing. Women didn't get the right to do anything without having the support of their male counterparts because they were and still are the majority in politics who make and sign laws and rights into existence.

Men definitely need to actually support men more. If something is important, show up, vote. Literally you have the legal/political power at your hands more than women do. Like women, you must appeal to the opposite sex on the importance of such rights (women had to do it, so do you). Appeal to social media. A lot of campaigns these days take off from there. And lastly, never give up. The minute you bark about things being to hard, you lose. Change rarely if ever happens over night just because you think it should.

JDavid25 · Answer

Nope they are not.. We would have to get through this culture of misandry to even start really.. Multiple people have tried to bring "awareness" to men's issues, but most people think it's just men complaining and are bitter.. They also would have to make sure they weed out the men that are bitter, because that adds fuel to the people who don't care about men's issues fire..

jshm2 · Answer

It's called "status quo" dumbass.  There was a time when being White, bigoted and racist wasn't being "taken seriously" too.

MCheetah · Answer

Men's issues never were taken seriously and still aren't, because society sees us as disposable. Until women and powerful men start giving a sh*t about men's issues, I don't think anything will change.

ArtemisSilver · Answer

They aren't and a better solution is to make use of prenups, focus on self improvement before looking for a relationship and to look for women who appreciate a traditional man who provides and keeps his family safe.

I'd encourage north American men to travel abroad looking for a wife if you can't find a good one locally rather than settling for someone toxic.

Chazmatazz269 · Answer

Of course they’re not taken seriously. Because nearly all women and at least half of men don’t give a shit. Until more people are on board, nothing will ever change.

NathanDavis · Answer

I don't know what this implies... but I've never had my "rights as a man" infringed or anything

slatyb · Answer

No, I don't, not here in the US, not anywhere. In the US it's women's rights that aren't taken seriously.

sirderpsalot123 · Answer

Doesn't seem like it. I have just accepted that most people aren't going to care about me. The best thing to do is to surround yourself with good people. Build your own support system.

RandomGuy1030 · Answer

Mens issues have been the same since the dawn of time. "Men, you run at each other on our command... and start stabbing each other in this field. Because I want some money and land"

tzdc21 · Answer

I don't think that bud. I KNOW that they're not taken seriously. And it pisses me off.

Jamie05rhs · Answer

Well, to start, you could stop fucking girls and then leaving them.

msc545 · Answer

Men's rights are never taken seriously. According to most people, men have no rights.

Jouth · Answer

men have rights ok

Fromdusktilldawn · Answer

Yes I agree.

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