My god…Another Voter Fraudster…on the Right?

[OddBeMe]

Its like when they accuse the left of this its because theyre already doing it.

[goaded]

I've made a couple of points about this, but I just realised the most important is probably: This isn't a case of individuals voting as or for someone else, it's election workers who were hired to run elections defrauding the people. Same as in NC-09, in 2018.

There are dozens if not hundreds of 2020 election deniers running for office to allow them to run the next election. All based on Trump's lies and the acquiescence of the Republican leadership (what was the last thing you heard from McConnell?).

The MAGA Republicans are threatening election workers with violence or death if they simply do their jobs and a Republican loses. That is fascism.

[goaded]

"Roughly 200 Republican candidates running for Senate, House, governor, attorney general or secretary of state have indicated publicly that the 2020 presidential election was illegitimate, despite all the evidence to the contrary." fivethirtyeight.com/.../

[goaded]

And now they're attempting a denial of service attack on election workers (20% of whom have considered resigning due to threats) by flooding them with FOIA requests at the request of Trump and Lindell. (Some requests even say they are following their lead, others duplicate wording from other people.)

Thanks for MHO.

[Twalli]

Also a state legislature passed a law with the words " so called President Biden".

[goaded]

@Twalli Really? Which state? They seem determined to make it impossible to run a problem-free election, so they can point to the problems in order to ignore the results.

[Twalli]

I don't know. I heard it from someone who heard it from someone else who read or heard it in the news. I fact checked it, but didn't bother reading the article.

[goaded]

Look, another one: "CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A Shaker Heights attorney accused of illegally voting in the last two general elections should be acquitted, in part, because he cast ballots in two states by accident, his attorney argued to a judge.

James Saunders, a 56-year-old former lawyer for the Internal Revenue Service, did not mean to commit a crime when he cast ballots in both Cuyahoga County and Broward County, Florida, counties where he owns property and has been registered to vote since before 2009, his lawyer said during closing arguments Wednesday."
www.cleveland.com/.../...lections-by-accident.html

"Saunders had made monthly donations to then-President Donald Trump’s re-election campaigns and various other conservative political groups"
He is a lawyer, and he broke the law by accident twice.

[OddBeMe]

I never thought it could be more organized than dumbasses. But you may be right.

[Slingblade1126]

When you have a justice department and a president calling one "group" of people "domestic terrorists", even worse than Alqida (sic), I wonder why only one side is being investigated to no end. I know it's what you want, a one party system but I don't.

[msc545]

You are probably talking about the side responsible for the insurrection on Jan 6, yes?

[Slingblade1126]

@msc545 yeah, I lost a lot of sleep worrying about a fat guy in a viking hat taking over the country. Lmao You people really need to stop with your fake outrage.

[msc545]

There is nothing fake about it. A lot of people are going to prison and they should be.

[Slingblade1126]

@msc545 a lot of people are going to prison? How many exactly? And what are they being convicted of? The FBI literally tracked people down for MONTHS, arrested them and kept them in federal jail for months. What was their charge? Protesting without a permit. Get back to me with those numbers.

[UCrayCray]

@slingblade1126
Really? Because if you were going to lose sleep over anything, I would have expected it to be over the guys dresses in tactical gear, moving in military formations through the crowd with zip tie handcuffs.
But you believe Viking man was the real threat?

[Slingblade1126]

@UCrayCray I believe NO ONE was a real threat. The charges and convictions show that. As far as people being dressed in tactical gear and moving through the crowd in military formation, I honestly don't know what you're talking about. Not saying it didn't happen, I just haven't heard or seen anything about it.

[msc545]

Oddly enough, despite your wise legal counsel, a Federal Court found them guilty and sentenced them to prison. Some guy most recently for five years. Sorry you don't approve.

[Slingblade1126]

@msc545 Again, how many people have been convicted and of what? Saying they found "them guilty" and "one guy" they gave a five year sentence is ridiculous to even take the time to write! You said "a lot of people". "Them and one guy" doesn't answer my question.

[Slingblade1126]

Also, it's not if I approve, that's a dumb statement, it's about overreach by the government.

[UCrayCray]

@slingblade1126
So aren’t even aware of all the possible threats that day, but you still feel you can confidently claim that “NO ONE was a real threat.” 🤦🏻‍♀️

[msc545]

Well then, we will all make sure to ignore your legal opinions.

[Slingblade1126]

@UCrayCray Give me PROOF of a crime! It's not illegal to walk around in tactical gear or in military formation. What happened to them? Were they arrested and convicted of a crime? Is this nonesense from the Jan 6 hearings with no conclusion? Tell me.

[Slingblade1126]

@msc545 I don't even know what that means but if you want, I can answer my question for you?

[msc545]

Until you become a Judge or end up on a jury, nobody has to prove anything to you.

[Slingblade1126]

@msc545 Well, I do require some proof. The problem is, you don't require any.

[UCrayCray]

@slingblade1126
Eric Gavelek Munchel and his mother are currently facing 8 charges as a result of the roles in they played in the Jan. 6th insurrection.
Just because you don’t know, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

[Slingblade1126]

@UCrayCray I never said it wasn't true. What are their charges?

[UCrayCray]

I believe I have given you enough information to find that for yourself. I’m not typing out each and every charge when you can just cut and paste his name into the search engine and find out yourself.

[msc545]

@UCrayCray Apparently Trumpers cannot figure out how to use Google. I thought it was just Trump that was this stupid. Who knew it was all of them?

[UCrayCray]

@msc545
Most of the right leaning posters around here don’t seem to be interested in the truth. If it doesn’t confirm what they already believe, it’s dismissed as “fake news.”
Slingblade (very aptly named, I must say) is the perfect demonstration of that. 🤷‍♀️

[goaded]

This page is regularly updated, most recently on the 12th, at which point more than 850 people in 48 states had been charged with participating in the Jan. 6 riot at the U. S. Capitol, "and arrests continue". eu.usatoday.com/.../

As for the ringleaders, and the people who planned the attempt to steal the presidency, by lies, oath-breaking, forgery, and finally violence, just follow the Jan 6 committee. www.npr.org/.../jan-6-subcommittee-hearings

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded we're not talking about "rioters", dumb fucks. We're talking about "insurrectionists". Was it a riot? Absolutely. Was it an insurrection? Absolutely not. I don't care how many people have been arrested and charged. I want you to tell me how many have been convicted and of what? By the way, the guy in the tactical gear isn't even charged with insurrection. They consider nylon ties a weapon? Lmao!

[goaded]

You're just telling me you haven't followed either link I gave you. The findings of the Jan 6 committee and the charges the rioters received, including many counts of seditious conspiracy. Go watch the videos or read the transcripts to see the multi-layered attempt to steal the presidency, which stopped being legal some time in December 2020.

eu.usatoday.com/.../
www.npr.org/.../jan-6-subcommittee-hearings

[Slingblade1126]

@goaded I think you need to learn the difference between "charged/indicted" and "convicted". I don't give a fuck what they've been charged with or indicted for, like Sol Wachtler said, "you can indict a ham sandwich". I'll give you one last chance to tell me how many people have been CONVICTED and what they were convicted of. I'm not even gonna get into the charges people sat in jail for, some sat for MONTHS, only to plea for "illegal assembly". Which basically means, protesting without a permit. Or maybe I will. It's actually embarrassing what the federal government can do. We're almost TWO years into this shit show!

[goaded]

You just keep telling me you haven't followed either link I gave you. The findings of the Jan 6 committee and the charges the rioters received, including many counts of seditious conspiracy. Go watch the hearing videos or read the transcripts to see the multi-layered attempt to steal the presidency, which stopped being legal some time in December 2020.

The first link allows you to select who was convicted, who pleaded guilty, the one person who was acquitted, etc.. (Since I know you'd rather type a load of garbage than click a link, 378 pleaded guilty, 17 were convicted at trial, 137 got probation, 109 got prison time, one was acquitted.)

eu.usatoday.com/.../

The hearings lay out exactly what Trump's multi-layered plan was to steal the presidency, starting with frivolous lawsuits and lies, then moving on to forgery, fraud, and finally violence, knowingly sending an armed mob to the Capitol.

www.npr.org/.../jan-6-subcommittee-hearings

[UCrayCray]

“I’ll prove there’s voter fraud, even if I have commit the fraud myself.” 🤣😂🤣😂

[jshm2]

The louder they shout, usually the more guilty they are themselves.

[Anonymous]

No, no, no, thats probably just a leftist trying to make right leaning people look bad. Besides, the cops are so corrupt that it might have been a cop who did it to make right leaning people look bad, unless of course you think those who says cops are corrupt are 100% wrong

[OddBeMe]

Always fake news until its a story you agree with!

[Opinion Owner]

I have seen news I liked that turned out to be fake too. I never said the news was fake here, I'm just open for the possibility it was done by a leftist, and doing the people who calls copscand the justice system corrupt, the favor of reminding them of how corrupt this arrest must be.

[OddBeMe]

But i guess Shakespeare would say Me thinks you doth protest too much. As in you immediately went to that conclusion instead of logically, calmly looking at the evidence.

I’ll admit this post is 100% trolling right wingers. Only way i can get hard. But when I’m wrong, i admit it. I did it last month with a story about Melania. Turns out it was photoshopped. I apologised.

[Anonymous]

Funny how judges never seem to allow investigations into voter fraud and throw out the allegations...

... unless a Conservative is involved. Then it gets it own task force and is front page news.

Funny how that happens, huh?

[goaded]

It gets front page news because it's rarer than mass shootings, and conservatives get caught most often because they're the ones committing the crimes. Search for NC-09, or any of the people voting for their dead relatives in 2020 (in one particular case, voting for the wife he'd murdered).

When Republicans "catch" people for voting illegally, it usually turns out that an election official had told them they could.

[msc545]

@goaded Conservatives are also the ones that whine and yell about "voter fraud" and when officials start investigating, conservatives are the people they catch. Ironic.

[OddBeMe]

Always “fake news” or “corrupt judges” until trumpers agree with the story.

[msc545]

Strange how they always accuse the left of doing the exact same things they are really doing!

[Twalli]

Projection