
Why is Biden regime making Saudi Arabia mad?


This is one of those arguments that people put forward when they want to make this party or that look "bad" or "unwise" or whatever.
Saudi Arabia and OPEC are going to want a good price for their oil no matter who happens to be president. The situation with Russia presents them a unique opportunity for profit. Also American oil does not belong to America, it belongs to the company that produced it and thay will sell it to whatever country they see fit according to profit.
You wanna stop being blackmailed over oil?
Step up the pressure to make renewables a dependable energy source.
Fun Fact: The US military is planning for next generation of Abrams tanks to be hybrids.
The less oil we need the less any politician will need to tolerate nasty governments like Saudi Arabia.
Pre-emptive strike for those about to comment "It'll never work"
Have a little faith. It's amazing what science and industry can do when it becomes truly necessary. Consider all the innovations that came about during WW2.
https://cleantechnica.com/2022/10/07/next-generation-abrams-tank-stryker-to-be-hybrids/
The Hard Left does not care as long as they get legislation in place to force people into electric cars. They fantasize that there will be leaps and bounds made in technology over the next decade that will alleviate the massive environmental damage done by the mining of and the processing of the materials needed for batteries, and the lack of recyclability of the spent batteries. They also postulate a massive jump in the extent and capabilities of wind and solar. Perhaps. And maybe someone will design a Back to the Future "Mr. Fusion" but economies rarely thrive on wishful thinking.
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Because they hate Saudi Arabia, they blame Mohammad bin Salman (MBS) for killing jamal khashoggi who was a Washington post writer. So when biden had to go hat in hand to MBS he pist off both those on the right and left. So as a result he thinks he can bully the Saudi into giving him what he wants because he thinks he has something on them, which we really don’t unless biden wants to open up drilling in the United States but he’s going to need massive incentives for that to happen like abandoning the green energy policy
You are more embarrassing them him, and suffering dementia or something worse than you think Biden is.
The Saudi's do not feel a need to bail out America any more, just because America got itself into another war.
American "oil fields" are largely full of shit. The cost to extract the oil and process it is far more than importing the oil.
The Americans (as usual) have pissed on their own picnic by not realising Russia was a far bigger contributor to the gas, oil and food markets than they were willing to admit.
The American tactic of fucking up, then hustling the Saudi's to lower oil prices to shut up the American public, is no longer working.
Biden is not in control of that. During Obama's terms they did do that way back to attack the Russian economy, put Iraq back in its place, get Saudi Arab to fight America's war in yemen, make opec countries more compliant etc. US companies will get their cut of this, the US is happy as long as they get a cut which is why Russia supplying oil/gas to Europe is a problem, which is why there is war in Ukraine.
My point is that there is an overall strategic goal that is unrelated to whatever person sits in the oval office. The US has been making moves against Russia for a long time, things started to heat up when Putin blocked the Oil/gas pipeline into Europe via Syria and invaded Ukraine the first time and Georgia as well. A trap was laid for Putin in Ukraine and this year he walked into it and now he can't get out without some kind of victory.
Fuck Saudi Arabia. It is about time we told them to piss off. I don't know why we have knelt before them for decades.
It is one of the most oppressive backwards regimes on this planet. And the only thing they have going for them is oil. If we stop being dependent upon their oil, they will go back to the stone age, where they belong.
We need to stop being dependent upon nations that are not democracies.
Yemen was a premature democracy, America helped bomb the shit out of it, back into theocracy. You should be politically wise enough to recognise that principles are outside the regards of modern politics. machiavellian drives only. It doesn't matter how progressive or not you are.
The US has unfortunately lost its stance, and I am sorry for that. When you lose your stance, you can't open your mouth. have you cloned yourself around the world as a political system instead of a just capitalist utopia and McDonald's, you wouldn't be complaining now.
@invalid1 Nothing you posted has anything to do with the blind support we have given to Saudi Arabia.
If you don't like the U. S. fine. . . I don't really care. But I do care that we have bowed to the Saudis every whim. We have let them write our foreign policy for too long.
Whats wrong with that? Any politician thats been benefiting themselves needs to be voted out... Democrat or Republican. They are no longer servants of the people.
Stop your whining about the gas prices. The Saudi elites are a contributor.
I’m not completely sure how this works honestly, but from what I hear he asked them to up their production after he depleted our strategic reserves in order to keep prices at the pump low until midterms. This is a typical democrat strategy (or lack thereof) to just keep the boat afloat till election
It's all strange because during Trump the US was declared energy dependent country. How could Biden change that.
The US has a lot of oil, Canada besides them has a lot of it. I mean why can't they cover the supply and help the price.
Besides, Biden didn't anger them, if you listen to what Trump publicly said about them to his rallies, it's very embarrassing and not diplomatic.
They want the price of gas to be sky-high to make electric vehicles seem like a better alternative. They've publicly stated this more than once.
The current administration is horrible at diplomacy.
Saudi Arabia is not happy we are trying to be energy independent. This conflict is inevitable. If republicans ever get control again, however, they will be on the Saudi's side..
The real question is why there is so much tolerance towards Saudi Arabia despite being a country that openly promotes terrorism. More than any other in the world.
Threatening to withhold arms to an ally in exchange for keeping production high but just for a month to get passed midterms sounds a whole lot like quid pro quo.
The Biden Administration is a totalitarian bully. Others will push back unless they're dependent weaklings like Germany.
What would Trump do? Suck Saudi dick?
Biden just proves that him and whole administration is not fit for the job
I swear Everytime I see this picture it reminds me of Jeff Dunham’s puppet Walter 😛. The resemblance is quite amazing.
Biden really believed that there would be electric cars and unicorns by now.
He’s the biggest fuckup of all time. He and his entire affirmative action administration is incompetent
Why's america always in a tussle with Saudi
@goaded it's one person get over it. Biden has fucked the US and people are running away from that party. You all lose and midterms will be dramatic. Biden will. now ne vetoed and every move and voted to be impeached. It's funny that's probably why he wants WW3, because he can stay President during a war. Meanwhile you're crying about one life when many are being affected & many can die in war. Kick rocks.
@Avicenna yeah that @goaded fella is a sick individual. Super Liberal and doesn't even care he supports young men being sent into Ukraine but never once in Goaded life did he ever go to the Recruiters office or MEPS and raise his right hand. But he's the ultimate war monger. Typical liberal behavior
@goaded who cares it's not our problem but your the very one to wave in the streets that we need to send more money Americans need to Ukraine like a Globalist & how we need to send US troops in Nato into WW3. Ad if Ukraine can't fight there own battle it's funny.
North Vietnam took us in and was only funded ak47s from the Russians and little money and bags of rice and way less logistics and the Viet Cong fought us with even less yet & then look at Iraq the foreign fighter retards and AL qaeda fought us tooth and nail and even created IED's out of the smallest equipment and garbage pieces & then we have the Taliban that fought us for 20 years eating rice and olden day Russian Ak's from the 80's ers when they fought the Russians as the Muhajideen. And we're the most dominant and best Armed forces in the world.
Yet your gonna sit here and say because Putin Is the aggressor we should send our own people in to go save them? Ukraine can fight themselves and they have been and made gains they don't need us or some massive strong funding. AMERICA FIRST !!! DON'T LIKE IT GO MOVE!
@Fuentes @Avicenna Funny, I almost posted an opinion on a question about micro-aggressions that ignoring someone when they speak is even worse than stated words. It doesn't work so well in text form, you just look like assholes.
@Fuentes Who do you think are being "sent into Ukraine"? Other than Russian cannon fodder, who I really do feel for.
You've moved on to some fantasy world where US troops are being sent to the country. That's not happening. It's not going to happen.
@goaded you must not be paying attention like people named "All Out Crazy" aka AOC is calling for the war drums to send and deploy troops and many other crazy leftist that's why Tulsi Gabbard left your sick party because everyone is banging the drums on that side from boots on the ground in Ukraine. Stop pretending like you don't it's happening that's why AOC got called out at her last venue by the anti war protesters.
@Fuentes: goaded is still trying to cover up his lying with more lying. First, he claimed millions would die this past winter if they weren't forced to take the jab that doesn't prevent transmission and was never even tested for it. And now, as if the boosters don't exist, he says it just doesn't prevent transmission for variants that appeared after the jab was developed.
@Avicenna he's always lying when Covid first dropped he was the biggest poster boy for it on here now that he knows it wasn't what he thought and waste of time and lies, now he lies as if he never was that and that he knew all about the transmission issue and said Dr Fauci was to be listen too lol so now he lies about it all
@goaded you're a Globalist, you know that? https://youtu.be/_Z0Run3nuHc
People are not lying, you just choose to live in a bubble.
@Fuentes She's not "voting to start WW3", she's voting to support a country that was invaded by a hostile dictatorship with delusions of grandeur. By the way, those "progressives" in the video who were shouting at AOC on behalf of Tucker Carlson? One of them tweeted that he voted for Trump, twice. It was a set-up.
@goaded what does voting for Trump have to do with nit supporting WW3? HAHAHAHAHA! So we should want WW3 or people are just Trumpers? Hahahah how delusional is that? Really? And not even that Ukraine got invaded so what? It's not our problem. If the Afghanistans Taliban fought us for over 20 years so can Ukraine It's not on us to send boots to the ground and fund there whole war because they got "invaded" after playing with fire.
We destabilized Central and South American countries to oust out the Russian Influence in those countries and stopped Russia from building bases there during the cold War. But when Ukraine wants to join NATO and that is a big threat to Russia that's our problem? Hahahaha shut up. They should have stayed Neutral we have enough Nato countries.
@goaded: Like any other propagandist, you have no value when no one believes your BS, which is why you stack lies upon lies. The vaccine you wanted everyone to be mandated by law to take does not even prevent transmission.
It remains to be seen if this corrupt administration and Congress will put US boots on the ground in large numbers (special forces are already there), but it's not implausible. Ukraine doesn't have unlimited resources to fight off the Russians, and while we all hope the war ends soon, it probably won't. And no one believes the fairy tale that the enormous US investment in Ukraine is merely about defending the country.
@Fuentes Repeat after me: "Funding the defence of an ally country is not supporting WW3, or nuclear war." Not being able to quote AOC saying anything remotely like what you're claiming is also a but sad.
@Avicenna Unfortunately for you, you pretending that facts aren't facts doesn't affect other people.
@goaded so so you think it's normal people like her are voting us into a nuclear war. Putin has made threats that if we keep funding the war he will use a nuke. France who had nukes in Europe has said out of their OWN PM's Macron's mouth if Russia nukes Ukraine - they will not respond with nukes. Of course putting defense on the US's back which is why we don't need NATO because the rest of the countries in it are completely useless to us but The British.
Yet we have sent over 15 billion to Ukraine I will post you a link off our own state defense gov website showing how much we have spent in this high inflation and funding to this war more then any other country had put up towards this war, yet you think that's in support of an ally? You're not very smart.
"These announcements will bring the total U. S. military assistance for Ukraine to approximately $15.2 billion since the beginning of this Administration."
www.state.gov/.../
In this article coming from a Gov website it states what I quoted highlighted purple on the web page.
@Fuentes I think it's normal that propagandists like you are lying about anyone "voting us into a nuclear war". It's ridiculous.
Still, what would you prefer we did? Hand over Ukraine to Putin (like Trump handed over Kurdish land to Turkey)? Then Poland? Finland? Alaska? At what point would you say enough is enough? After all, you can't fight back against a country with nukes.
I doubt France has tactical nuclear weapons, which means if they used one, it would be to destroy a city. Putin knows full well that any fallout from one of his nukes would be blown over Russia.
@goaded are you that ignorant it's well known France & Turkey are two NATO countries with nukes a simple Google search will tell you that, Also again Turkey is NATO it's not on us to support Kurds or fight Turkey lol you must know nothing.
It's not on us to fight any other country if these countries can't defend themselves like the taliban did and the north Vietnamese did lol it's not OK to make our country broke and the people broke to help save another country from Russia when all they had to do was be neutral.
@Fuentes You're calling me ignorant, when you posted obvious propaganda video of Trump supporters pretending to be supporters of AOC and Gabbard?
Do you know what the difference between nuclear weapons in France and Turkey? Or are you ignorant?
The Kurds were American allies in the fight against ISIS. Trump gave the green light to Turkey to invade their lands in Syria anyway. Didn't you know that?
The fact that you think the US can't afford a few billion (especially when most of it will be spent in the US) will shows your ignorance.
@goaded they can't afford you ignorant human, price of living. Food, gas and housing market. Buying cars and all that is Hella high up are you that stupid or do you live off the state and get free food and free housing & you don't work or drive and take the bus like a bum and you think it's all OK because none of it effects you?
Dude get a life that's just sad, if you think we should send Billions when the US is going broke and crime is rampid right now because of it. But the 15 billion that should go back to the American people to help combat our issues. But in your crazy liberal head America is doing just fine and we should continue to invest and ignore the crime the price if everything going up and the amount of growing homeless.
Also Turkey is NATO a better ally and the Kurt's never had an established land so we won't be disagreeing with Turkey or fighting with them over it, do your research before you talk we even have 2 bases in Turkey lol.
France & Turkey both have Nukes in their country that's not something you can even argue. It's full on fact
@Fuentes Attempted distraction, check. Lies about crime levels (they've been dropping for a quarter century, now, after lead was removed from fuel), check. Lies about the US "going broke" (it has its own currency), check.
And you still don't know the difference between the nukes in Turkey and France, do you? Ignorant. (Would you like me to tell you, or does accepting that you don't know everything against your moral code?)
@goaded how ignorant are you buddy? It's crazy how much you think living off the state and pretending food prices aren't high lol last time I checked Chicago crime rate has sky rocketed ad of recent, so has Los Angeles and more homeless all over the place and many more areas that didn't have a high crime rate now have a crime rate that is damn lie it did not drop it got worse. That's why rappers are getting their chains snatched and murdered for it in LA lol you must be crazy and don't tell me that didn't happen It's been happening. Police Agency's in Southern California are desperately asking for help and extending their recruitment for laterals all over parts of the US due to crime lol. Go outside once in awhile. Read the gas prices since you take the bus like a bum.
Read the food prices and prices if rent everywhere versus what people are paid min wage and alil more more and look at the housing market and how sky rocketed it went & the price of vehicles and how bad sales men are not meeting their quotas. Geeze everything you said right now can easily be debunked if you would actually go outside stop living off the government, get a vehicle like a grown man is suppose too and actually contribute to society & pay taxes. But you don't that's why your so out of touch with what's really going on and pretending like someone with schizophrenia that nothing is happening around you.
Furthermore you Saif "France does not have tactical nukes" you never said what kind if nukes and simple Google search as I told you before says France does have tactical nukes and ballstic nukes and so does Turkey has over 290 tactical nukes and the Kurt's in 2015 during the war with TURKEY cried saying that Turkey was using tactical nukes agaisnt them lol so again you been debunked off your own ignorant lies and speeches hoping nobody can counter what you say. But again you been countered and again your prove yourself to be the biggest and sickest ignorant liberal on this site.
@Fuentes You're just making shit up.
Why pick Chicago? We're talking about the US, not one city in one state. Actually, we're talking about nuclear weapons,
OK, maybe France does have tactical nukes. Fine, you've given me information (I said I doubted they had them, not that they didn't). You still don't know the difference between the nukes in France and Turkey, though. I serously doubt the Kurds "cried saying that Turkey was using tactical nukes agaisnt them", it's so easy to check and it would render the land the Turks were stealing worthless.
Would you like me to tell you the difference between France and Turkey, now, or will you continue showing your ignorance?
@goaded their Both NATO countries. Their both allies we have bases in Turkey. Are you on drugs? Their is no difference when it comes to politics.
You didn't mention any type of different nukes and I just told you what nukes they had and how many and yes they're articles out there of the Kurt's claiming Turkey used Nukes agaisnt them.
morningstaronline.co.uk/.../pkk-accuses-turkey-using-tactical-nuclear-weapons-iraqi-kurdistan
They're many many many articles of them crying about it. Their is a huge difference between and Ally and a NATO ally, our bond is stronger with NATO then it's a regular friendly ally, hence why Zylensky keeps petitioning to join NATO.
Meanwhile we have no reason to fund this war at 100% at at all. I also stated in there LA as another city with high crime since Biden took office and since this whole fiasco he caused. And same with all. the lame warmonger democrats who care more about a leveled out country then their own people in the US.
@Fuentes OK, I'll tell you. Turkey has American nuclear weapons in American bases, France has French nuclear weapons in French bases. They have an independent nuclear deterrent.
The article is interesting ("The outlandish claim was made despite Turkey not being a nuclear weapons state and not having been previously accused of having any nuclear weapons capacity. Turkey is a signatory to the Non-proliferation treaty, although President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has made past references to its right to acquire such weaponry."). The Kurdish area was in Iraq, not Syria, as I mistakenly said earlier.
While trying to verify it, I came across another article: "Putin "Prepared to Use Tactical Nuclear Weapons" If Turkey/Saudi Invade Syria" redice.tv/.../putin-prepared-to-use-tactical-nuclear-weapons-if-turkey-saudi-invade-syria How did that turn out?
"Meanwhile we have no reason to fund this war at 100% at at all."
Quite simply, the US isn't.
@goaded dude in 10 months we have sent Ukraine 15.8 Billion dollars that is a lot of money for 10 months, you act as if this Ukraine War has been going on for years when it has not it's only been 10 months that us a full funding of our money if we're spending billions in a war that isn't ours lol what are you smoking man? Srsly. That is money you will probably never touch in your lifetime with that mindset so I don't know where you get off thinking that's pocket change or something. During this fucked up inflation, which makes you ignorant.
Of Course Putin didn't use Nukes in Syria it isn't his war he was just seeing warning shots to protect his good ally Assad agaisnt AL Qaeda. But this time this is his WAR with Ukraine and he's not doing to good at all, he has lost gains in towns he lost his pull to take over Kyiv and he is losing the border towns and Ukraine has made a big push in Dontesk a place he thought he "liberated" he has no choice but use Nukes. Russia has never been a tough military every war they been in they lost tons if casualties and have always fought sloppily their only and every advantage they ever had was in ww2 in the winter because if how cold it gets and their use to it.
But that was ww2 and their fighting someone who is also use to the weather and was once apart of the soviet union. So none of that matters again Turkey is a great ally of Nato versus Kurdistan a regular ally.
@goaded No actually the state Gov website says since Feb of 2022 we sent 15 billion in 10 months you can change how ridiculous that is and two Crimea happen in 2014 during Obama's and Biden Presidency they're the ones who did nothing lol and Putin Annexed Crimea that was a small skirmish and not a full scale war as of what's happening in the Ukraine right now. Which is way different today so don't go blaming Trump he wasn't fully a president until 2017 after he voted in 2016. So Nice try with that Obama was 2008 to 2016 lol stop the bs and the lies bro.
@goaded so Because Obama and the Vice President Biden who is now the President today allowed the annexation and did nothing about it and made it worse I should support him in making the US broke? In a war you admitted had no blow back which told Putin if Biden reaches office again it would be the perfect time to attack lollolol!!! What world do you live in? They didn't attack when Trump was in office because they feared Trump. Biden had had two terms in the white house as a VP and now the President and since he made the "mistake" of not doing anything as a VP with Obama now it is their fault why Ukraine is being invaded now & you think making the US broke and funding 15 billion during high inflation and our country is in need is the problem solve to who you admit should not be President cause that's all his previous administration did.
"Make Mistakes" and now Biden is back in office making the same "mistakes" thanks for admitting the same Administration us unfit lololol!
@goaded why should we keep contributing to inflation? Are you crazy? And thanks for admitting how you live off others tax dollars by collected SSI. You would not even mention that if it didn't effect you it's even more funny cause that explains so much how you're completely out of touch with current reality. So maybe get a job, pay for your own food & get a car & not take the bus then say Biden is the best President ever & better then Trump lol
It's the other way around.
Because they’re stupid af
It’s pathetic.
And the Saudi’s just produced receipts…. biden asked them to keep production up just till after the mid-terms.
Because Biden is a moron.
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