Which Republican official or candidate has ever condoned or in any way encouraged any type of violent assault?

[goaded]

[John_Doesnt]

A lot of them have condoned and encouraged violence.

[msc545]

Trump, MTG for 2.

[WhiteSteve]

Trump loves that mafia-style talk where he just vaguely “suggests” there could be trouble if things don’t go as he wants then. “Have you seen this? It’s a terrible thing. Very bad. If this happens, I don’t think it’s gonna be good, you know? People are going to be very upset…” Just feels like the mob walking into a small neighborhood business, being like “Wow. This is a nice place, a lot of nice stuff. Be a shame if something happened to it, you know? A lot of crazy people out there. Tell you what…. we’ll stop by this same time every week, and for the low, low price of 10%, we’ll make sure nothing bad happens to you…”

[Amy10223]

LOLHow did you learn his jargon so well?

[loveslongnails]

The most blatant is Majorie Greene. What you hear in the video is only a snippet of some of the calls for violence she makes off screen to opposing colleagues or overheard on hot mikes. I don't live in her district in Georgia, but she advocates violence. Bannon did as well, Guiliani did, obviously Trump did.

As WhiteSteve pointed out below, you can condone violence without ever saying the words "be violent" out loud. You can deny violence when it happens too, like Ron Johnson of Wisconsin has done repeatedly about Jan. 6th, along with several other colleagues.

When you're an elected representative, it's not enough to say nothing, or "what did you expect" when violence occurs because not speaking out against it gets READ as condoning or encouraging it. IF you claim to be about "Law and Order", you must decry it and speak against.

The irony is that the USA was founded on violence which was deemed justified. That however, was almost 250 years ago. We haven't learned much about Democracy since then, it would appear.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

I can't think of any politician on either said that has straightforwardly called for violence, maybe Biden with his comments about Putin getting removed from power. I can't think of anyone else.

[goaded]

I guess you didn't watch the video.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

No one in the video sounds like they would actually do it, so I wouldn't say they're encouraging it. it sounds like they're making dumb jokes. Encouraging would be directly demanding action, like for the shovel joke could have been "Give me that shovel so I can hit her".

[goaded]

Who said anything about them being the ones to do the act, they clearly encourage and condone it.

"I'll tell you knock the crap out of him"
"maybe he should have been roughed up"
"it's a crime punishable by death is what treason is. Nancy Pelosi is guilty of treason and we want her out" (Oh, look, someone tried that last week.)
"get on the phone call your Congressman you can lightly threaten him"

[Amy10223]

LOL... you. can't think of ONE but Biden's comment, which I agree on?

[Amy10223]

https://youtu.be/TTOreXOyfhg

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@Amy10223 in the whole speech, he didn't call to violence, he just called to protest. Unless he directly says to March in the Capital, wreck things, and kill (name anyone), he wasn't calling for that action.

[Amy10223]

"Fight like hell " is not inciting violence? Was that part of the speech? Because I remember wathcing it live, and that's exaclty what he said.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@Amy10223 it was part of the speech but it doesn't mean actually beat up people or hang them. In the context of the speech, he was talking about protesting, asking them to protest.

[Amy10223]

How do you know wehat he meant? You aren't inside his mond or can read his thoughts. However--this everyone knows for sure--he was pissed off that Biden won--enough to support the hangin of Mike Pence.
he White House chief of staff at the time, Mark Meadows, was in the dining room off the Oval Office with Trump at one point during last year’s Capitol attack, the committee has been told. Meadows then left the dining room and informed other people nearby that Trump had signaled a positive view of the prospect of hanging the vice president, the panel heard.

------Meadows’ account as it was described to the committee came after some members of the mob converging on the Capitol had broken into chants of “Hang Mike Pence!” Those chants were a reaction to Pence's decision to accept electoral votes that indicated Joe Biden had won the presidency. ------

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@Amy10223 context, that's how I know what he meant. Context. The speech was about protesting. Even during the riots, he said many times to be peaceful about it.
Plus, the riots were overtaken by Antifa supporters, there's proof of that also.

[Amy10223]

That right there, the mention of Antifa supporters, tells me very much about you and why you are supporting Trump. You have no proof of anything about Antifa--that is a conspiracy theory that you supporters created in your own minds. Wake up and smell the coffee. You're part of a cult and you should not be proud of it.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@Amy10223 I don't actually support or agree trump, my issue here is that you can't put words into other people's mouths, regardless of politics. I'm saying that antifa hijacked the protests because many of the main people (like the man with the fur and painted face if you remember) are actually affiliated with and are Antifa supporters.

[goaded]

Here's the "QAnon Shaman" at a BLM protest. He was not for the protest.

[Amy10223]

Well, you can't say he didn't mean for people to be beat up, etc. What happened was a result of him telling them to go "fight like hell". And they took him literally. He also supported the chanting "Hang Mile Pence" and said that Pence deserved it. We can't also ignore the fact that he had planned this months before--and while it was happening---did absolutely NOTHING but sit back and enjoy the show, while everyone was asking him to make them stop. Whether or not you support him--that's what happened and you can't erase that or try and say he did not instigate that riot.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

@Amy10223 @Amy10223 ok, at this point, I think I need you to explain more on each of those points because I dont know if I'm understanding what you're saying and I dont want to misconstrue your words.

Did he actually say that Mike pence deserved to get hanged, word for word, or did he say he understood why they were saying that and not necessarily agreeing with it all? Also what do you mean that he planned it months in advance and did nothing when it happened? didn't he say, multiple times, to remain peaceful and descalate the protests?
Here's the thing- I'm trying to say there's a difference between what people say and the context people say it in so unless those two things align, the context matter most. For example, I can make a "your mama so fat" joke to my friend and, although I may be wrong, my friend would understand that it's a joke. It's not the actual truth.
99% that Donald trump says is like that joke, not serious. And in most cases, that was understood, so
What happened that on January 6th now everything he negatively said is taken completely seriously?
My question apply to every other politician by the way, I'm not trying to solely defend one person or anything. It's just that Donald Trump was always a great bullsh*tt3r who made jokes and took everything lightheartedly, maybe too much and too far.

[goaded]

www.npr.org/.../jan-6-subcommittee-hearings

[Amy10223]

What I'm saying is that the then President Trump, actually said, he deserved to be hung. He had planned this weeks in advance and told the public he was going to make a rally on that day. That was in the newspaper. No, he did not say "remain peaceful" and deescalate the protests. He did nothing. All he did was stay in his room watching it escalate on tv while some of his family members as well as his staff told him something had to be done.
I would not say that 99% of what Trump says is a joke. What he does shows credence that he is to be taken seriously, as dangerous as he is. For example, when he tried to bribe the Ukrainian president to give him proof of Hunter Biden's wrong doing, he said he would hold money from him (that the US gave to Ukraine a help for their country). Did you also know that there were Russian oligarchs at his own inauguration, that no one had invited? But he knew they were there. It was found (by Robert Mueller and the FBI) that these wealthy oligarchs had given him money for his campaigns.
Look at this clip--it will show you exactly that Trump had said that Mike Pence deserved to be hung. Go to the 7:00. minute to get right to that --and look at some of the rest where it is repeated.

https://youtu.be/q7aaXt3EARg

[GreatVallue]

How pathetic would you have to be to live in Germany, and lay awake at night worrying about Trump? lol

[goaded]

I worry about fascism, it tends to spread and cause widespead death and destruction.

[Agagagagaga]

Yeah you Nazi fucks know all about that.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga Keep advertising your ignorance.

[Agagagagaga]

Oh, you mean the Nazis—your people—didn’t invade Europe and kill several million people and spread misery and death across the globe?

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga I've told you before, I'm an immigrant here. Dumbass.

[Agagagagaga]

@goaded You immigrated to a shithole. I used to live in Germany. Fuck that place and fuck you.

[goaded]

@Agagagagaga Real adult of you.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Greatvallue. Absolutely correct. Germany has already surrendered to the Ultra-woke crowd and sold their soul in the process. He can go fuck himself.

[Agagagagaga]

@goaded It’s important to point out and ridicule foreign Leftist shits like you.

Like you I’m worried about growing fascism. Now go fuck yourself you goddamn Nazi fuck.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Agagagagaga I second that!

[goaded]

You're doing it wrong. It's not just screaming vicious lies.

ridicule (third-person singular simple present ridicules, present participle ridiculing, simple past and past participle ridiculed)

(transitive) to criticize or disapprove of someone or something through scornful jocularity; to make fun of

[KrakenAttackin]

@goaded. Go back to your own shit hole country and fight for "freedom".

[goaded]

@KrakenAttackin Still doing it wrong.

[KrakenAttackin]

@goaded. Put your envy of the U. S. in check and focus on your own shit hole problems. Better?

[goaded]

@KrakenAttackin I don't envy any country that's on the brink of fascism.

[KrakenAttackin]

Right, it was "Republicans" who fucking burned cities, raped, robbed, looted, murdered, last summer. BLM is "mostly peaceful", we know the bullshit.

[goaded]

What do you think the sentence for seditious conspiracy should be?

[KrakenAttackin]

If you want to go down that road, all your liberal heroes would have been hanged years ago.

[goaded]

Let's see what the Oath Keepers get, shall we? They did conspire with Trump to steal the presidency.

[KrakenAttackin]

Hilarious. You really are this gullible and stupid.

[goaded]

Did Trump plan to claim victory on election day, regardless of the result or not?

[KrakenAttackin]

2000 Mules.

[goaded]

Is the name of a bullshit film by a convicted felon.

[KrakenAttackin]

Have you watched it? The various videos of people stuffing mailboxes is unreal.

Pricks like you are going to spark a civil war.

[Friendlybro79]

@KrakenAttackin why can't you answer any question as is without changing the subject into more conspiratorial rhetoric? There are a few logical republicans in office that don't condone violence and you should know this. Your only playbook is what abouting to another topic. If you have a problem with the topic you're trying to change the conversation to then start your own conversation about it.

Answer it or just move on bro it's getting pathetic. I'll help you Liz Cheney condoned violence. She is a republican politician. If you can't answer the question then feel free to not reply at all.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Friendlybro79 Your group start, middles, and ends with violence. Actually, I have no problem with violence against enemies domestic.

[goaded]

2000 mules is literally unreal, as in not real. You not answering the question leads me to believe you know the answer is that Trump did plan to claim victory on election day, regardless of the result. And you think his opponents are enemies domestic?

[KrakenAttackin]

I think enemies of the U. S. are largely domestic liberals.

[goaded]

Then you're a fool. The country is based on the concept of using elections to decide who is given power by the people. Ignoring the results of elections and clinging to power is the antithesis of the US constitution.

[KrakenAttackin]

@goaded. Illegally manipulating ballots is an act of war.

[KrakenAttackin]

Anyway, I am done talking with you. Most in this country are done talking with your kind. This country is reaching a breaking point and your kind keep pushing, pushing, pushing, until it breaks. When it does break it won't be pretty.

[Agagagagaga]

@KrakenAttackin He doesn’t even live in America. He’s some chickenshit German.

[goaded]

No ballots were illegally manipulated. That's a lie to keep you angry.

[goaded]

In fact, since the debacle of the 2000 election (decided, probably wrongly, by 500 votes nationwide), elections systems now print a human readable ballot, then count the ballots by machine.. Voters get to check their ballot is correct before it is counted. Audits and recounts count the ballots that the voters cast. There is no chance to change results electorinically that can't be uncovered.

[goaded]

So many typos!

In fact, since the debacle of the 2000 election (decided, probably wrongly, by 500 votes nationwide), election systems now print a human readable ballot, then count the ballots by machine. Voters get to check their ballot is correct before it is counted. Audits and recounts count the ballots that the voters cast. There is no chance to change results electronically that can't be uncovered.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Agagagagaga Seriously? The Germans have become the biggest pussies of all. Germany turned their country over to Muslim invaders, now this fuck nut wants us to do the same.

[goaded]

Since the debacle of the 2000 election (decided, probably wrongly, by 500 votes nationwide), election systems now print a human readable ballot, then count the ballots by machine. Voters get to check their ballot is correct before it is counted. Audits and recounts count the ballots that the voters cast. There is no chance to change results electronically that can't be uncovered.

[Friendlybro79]

Liz Cheney. She's on the Jan 6th panel and is hated by her colleagues for challenging Daddy Trump.

[goaded]

A Republican recently tried "both sides" violence and threats by pointing to Cheney and Kinsinger getting threats, passing over the fact that the threats were all coming from Republicans.

[Friendlybro79]

Really? I haven't heard about this.

[goaded]

About which, that they received threats from Republicans or that someone implied that the threats were coming from Democrats?

[Friendlybro79]

All of it. I'm not registered republican but I have appreciated her approach on the Jan 6 trials where she seems to understand that the Republican folks they subpoenaed could be responsible for violence.

[goaded]

Oh, wait, did you misread the question? It's "ever", not "never". It's what Ingraham was asking on Fox, and the video answers.

[Friendlybro79]

Yup my bad

[goaded]

I'd like, but it would look bad. Thanks for responding!

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/tJCDe7vdFfw

Ahem.

😐

[goaded]

"Tell them" sounds like speech to me. Not violence.

[joeldalton]

It's (D) ifferent

[goaded]

@joeldalton Yes, because she's not advocating violence in any way, shape, or form.

[joeldalton]

"YOU PUSH BACK ON THEM".

[goaded]

@joeldalton Push back against their policies, "protest", "tell them", "harrass them", not "knock the crap out of them", "rough them up". You're so full of shit.

[joeldalton]

@goaded but you never know what lunatic will misinterpret the words... words are violence, you believe it to be true.

[goaded]

@joeldalton So now you're saying that not advocating violence leads to violence.

[joeldalton]

@goaded i'm saying that the democrat party in the united states is calling for political violence and we've seen it played out with bLM riots, abortion-alternative clinics being fire bombed, teenagers being run over, people at a Christmas parade being run over and you sit there with your head up your ass and pretend it isn't happening.

[goaded]

@joeldalton I know what you're saying, it's just that you're lying.

[joeldalton]

@goaded you're again accusing me of your behavior. Like you leftist fascists do all the time.

[goaded]

@joeldalton You keep doing exactly that.

[joeldalton]

I'm not biden., I don't make speeches calling half the country a "threat to democracy".

[goaded]

@joeldalton It's far from half the country, don't flatter yourselves, and all your lies are a threat to democracy, especially when you're just some useless little cog in a great big misinformation machine. I wonder who the Republican AZ AG will vote for to replace him, the Democrat or the grifter making horseshit claims (the AG's words, not mine).

[joeldalton]

You know we all know that the phrase "threat to democracy" is really code for "threat to democrat power", right? You're not fooling anyone.

[goaded]

@joeldalton No, it's what happens when people stop accepting the results of valid elections despite all the checks and balances and recounts and audits. Democracy (and therefore republics) need that.

[joeldalton]

You mean like Hillary Clinton? Or do you mean like Kamala Harris claiming that voting machines were hacked. So hard to figure out what you mean.

[goaded]

@joeldalton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khK9fIgoNjQ

[joeldalton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQesfLIycJw

[goaded]

@joeldalton And? She accepted the results of the election, and she's now explaining the threat to democracy that people like you pose. Trump was still saying he could be re-instated weeks ago.

[joeldalton]

I know. "threat to democracy" = "threat to authoritarian leftist power".

[goaded]

@joeldalton Ooh, 2 minutes to post something ridiculous that's already been answered.

[joeldalton]

From the guy who replied in 3 minutes with more BS? Is that you?

[goaded]

@joeldalton Are you still here? I was just done answering your other nonsense. Show me the words in that video that suggest she was advocating anything but pushing back verbally against Republicans. You've already seen dozens of Republicans shooting guns and talking about "second amendment remedies" and Trump himself acting tough and calling for violence.

[joeldalton]

Maybe to you, but to someone unhinged they may take that as a call to arms. It's the same violent rhetoric you're claiming the right is doing. Let's not forget you ignore every time that dude ran over the teenager or the guy was at Kavanaugh's house trying to kill him.

[goaded]

@joeldalton No, it's not the same kind of rhetoric as, say:

"I'll tell you knock the crap out of him"
"maybe he should have been roughed up"
"it's a crime punishable by death is what treason is. Nancy Pelosi is guilty of treason and we want her out" (Oh, look, someone tried that last week.)
"get on the phone call your Congressman you can lightly threaten him"

[joeldalton]

That's right, it's (D) ifferent. I explained that a long time ago.

[goaded]

@joeldalton That's not an explanation, it's an acknowledgement that some words mean violence and others (the ones used by Democrats) do not.

[joeldalton]

right, (D) ifferent.

[goaded]

@joeldalton Just to be clear, you think "Tell them they’re not welcome" is the same as "knock the crap out of him". Because you're an idiot.

[joeldalton]

@goaded i get it. It's (D) ifferent. Always will be. Because you are intellectually dishonest.

[goaded]

@joeldalton No, Push back against their policies, "protest", "tell them", "harrass them", is not "knock the crap out of them", "rough them up". You're so full of shit.

[joeldalton]

And when some unhinged leftist thinks "harrass them" means punch them? Then what? You started this path of "words are violence" and now you have to live with that.

[goaded]

@joeldalton Why do you think "harrass them" is more likely to incite violence than "knock the crap out of them", or "rough them up". You're so full of shit. Telling the truth is not incitement to violence, you should try it some time.

[joeldalton]

I don't know what people are going to interpret, so that's why this democrat rhetoric is so dangerous.

[goaded]

@joeldalton Push back against their policies, "protest", "tell them", "harrass them", is not the same as "knock the crap out of them", "rough them up". You're so full of shit.

[joeldalton]

Cayler Ellingson, Rand Paul, Bret Kavanaugh, 6 republicans at a baseball game were all victims of leftist political violence. Along with everyone killed during the BLM riots. All of it from the violent rhetoric of the left.

[goaded]

@joeldalton Bollocks. Who? Neighbour. Person who turned himself in. Five years ago. Many of them by right-wingers (boogaloo).

140 police were harmed on one day.

Push back against their policies, "protest", "tell them", "harrass them", is not the same as "knock the crap out of them", "rough them up". You're so full of shit.

[joeldalton]

Oh yeah, and Paul Pelosi. More leftist violence.

[KrakenAttackin]

@goaded. Why don't you fight your own fight in Germany. Stop OBSESSING about the United States.

[joeldalton]

@KrakenAttackin More leftist political violence

www.usnews.com/.../shot-fired-at-family-home-of-n-carolina-us-house-candidate

[KrakenAttackin]

@joeldalton I saw that, of course this shooting was "mostly peaceful".

[goaded]

@Avicenna Tell me again how this isn't lying or trolling: "Oh yeah, and Paul Pelosi. More leftist violence."