So if Dems win, the election was rigged?

[OddBeMe]

But not if Repubs won…then it woulda been a fair election?

[Weapon77]

That's mainly just conspiracy theorists. The reasonable people are only saying it might have been rigged in CERTAIN states. Like we all have to admit that in the past 2 years, Arizona and a couple other states have been SUPER sketchy. And democrats happened to win those sketchy states, so it leads to people being suspicious.

Also keep in mind that completely trusting our government is foolish, so we all have to find a way to reconcile that fact with our inability to ourselves 100% verify all election results are accurate. I wish I had the answer.

The main reason I don't think rigged elections are something we should worry about is because ALL elections are rigged to some extent. Politicans get money from all kinds of constituents, many of whom are from other countries and have no business meddling in our elections. They get money from criminals too, which isn't shocking since many corporations are run at least in parr by criminals and many politicians are criminals. Add to that how gerrymandering works, and you realize we never have election's that aren't rigged to some extent. It was really bad in the decades leading up to Teddy Roosevelt, and he broke up the corruption, but it likely only lasted about a decade after his final term ended. Until we enforce term limits, decrease the pay of senators and representatives, and enact some other policies, corruption will continue. Anyway, I'm saying that the current complaint of many Republicans about the elections being rigged for Democrats is silly because all elections are rigged at least a little bit. Bith sides cheat, so how do we know who cheated more? lmao We don't. And it seems we have to live with it.

[OddBeMe]

Evidence of super sketchy state elections? No? Ok.

[Ill_made_Knight]

Those same states took a long time to count the votes right? Different states have different methods, and the same states that were slow last time are slow now... that's because the method they use is slow... every time... states rights... right?

[OddBeMe]

Sure. But audits still find ZERO evidence. So….

[Weapon77]

The first problem we run into is that no one can actually get proof. Really think about that, man. If something were going on, how the hell is anyone supposed to find, spread, and verify it? Exactly. It can't be done.

But either way, you know it's fucking sketchy that Arizona'd machines broke during the presidential race AND during this one too, so they had to switch to other methods both times. You know damn well that they are either sketchy or fucking incompetent. Either way, it's not what I'd call good.

[Ill_made_Knight]

That's actually what I'm saying. The waits are proof of nothing. That's just the way those states function.,. so being slow is meaningless

[OddBeMe]

Wait…no one can’t get proof? We can and right wingers have gone to jail breaking voter laws.

[Weapon77]

You misunderstand. I mean we can never prove if Clinton, Bush, Obama, etc. actually won their elections. Know what I mean? So while most elections end up being what most Americans want, it's still eery to think about how we never REALLY know for sure, you know?

[Weapon77]

Well if it's just how those states function, they need to get their shit together and make the machines work so they can count results because Christmas. That's all I'm saying. They won't have as many people suspicious if they would take care of shit.

[nawtee_me]

Dems have been rigging elections for years now. They started by make it easier for earlier voters. It has been shown that more Dems use early voting than go to the polls on election day than do Republicans. It is also been shown in states where they allow mail in voting to be done after election day that the Dems get more votes too. The Dems have had the laws passed in those states to allow this and they win more votes by doing so. If you had to go vote at the polls on election day the Dems would not have the votes that they get now. CNN talked about this during the past election coverage and the days to follow as they were still counting votes days after the election.

[Anonymous]

Actually Democrats have been in power for many years over the past 30 years and during that time in power we don't have single payer healthcare (even though that's a disaster in every other country that has it), we don't have clean water, we have completely one-sided news that reports how we're supposed to think rather than just the news, and we're not even close to solar cars or any other type of alternative energy. We have electric cars that cost too much for people to buy and use more energy in coal used to create the electricity than gasoline engines use. So how would giving them even more power help?

[Adaeva]

There is plenty of evidence of cheating for anyone willing to look. However, since the minority parties (Green, Libertarian, etc.) are not viable, I don't see that it really matters and it will not matter until there is a second viable party instead only one viable party as is currently the case.

In any event, cheating can only occur when the actual voting is near equal. And, that is almost always the case. It would be difficult, to impossible, for less then 40% to win a national election regardless of how much the actual minority was willing to cheat.

[OddBeMe]

Funny that evidence of fraud never occurs…

[Adaeva]

There is evidence. However, it doesn't matter. Just as it doesn't matter which side of a coin you look it, it is still the same coin. It doesn't matter whether republicans or democrats are elected because they are the same party and typically vote alike. Most people think they are different because they talk a different talk and people listen to what they say and pay little or no attention to how they vote.

[OddBeMe]

Only one party is taking away women’s rights, you either approve or you don’t.

[Adaeva]

Obviously, since there only one viable party. In any event, I believe we are losing and have lost a lot of our rights in the USA. However, I don't know any strictly women's right that we are losing. At least not any women's rights that I believe will ever be applicable to me.

[OddBeMe]

I guess that’s all that matters. What’s important to you.

[Adaeva]

Freedom, which is very limited, is important.

[OddBeMe]

Still waiting for “all that evidence”

[WindAtMyBack]

The Dems rig it either way. If Republicans win, it's just because enough people have sense to not believe all the BS the Democrats spout.

We have no democracy in this country. Democracy depends on an informed populace. You can't have an informed populace when the information stream is so one-sided.

[OddBeMe]

Read this back slowly and tell me you’re not brainwashed.

[WindAtMyBack]

Brainwashed by who? The liberal media? Come on now, that doesn't even make sense.

[OddBeMe]

What’s the largest cable news network with all the most watched shows on it?

[WindAtMyBack]

No idea. You have to look at the total though, not just individual network, and definitely not just news. News is minor.

Apparently you are implying that the media is not really liberal as hell. If that's the case then you have no concept of reality.

[OddBeMe]

So what’s media then? And how is it liberal?

[WindAtMyBack]

Media is television, including news, prime time, daytime soaps, talk shows, etc. It's newspapers. It's radio. It's the music industry. It's anything Hollywood. It's news magazines. Its video games. It's artists. It's children's programming.

This isn't opinion. Different professions tend to attract different types of people. The entertainment industry, news industry and performing artists have a strong tendency to attract liberals.

[OddBeMe]

Actually you’re right it isn’t opinion. And media is conservatively biased if anything. Money biased overall.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aay9344

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe Fox news is the only place you can see what a mess the southern border is, the Hunter Biden corruption scandal, and many other things that the fake news has stonewalled. No wonder democrats would like to silence it for good.

[WindAtMyBack]

How long did you have to search to find that? I call BS.

Or maybe you think teaching children that LGBT is OK is unbiased? Or maybe you think that virtually every prime time television show is unbiased? How about night time talk shows and their hosts? How about news magazines that select a tranny as "woman of the year" is unbiased? Or maybe you think that video games showing two gays getting it on is unbiased? Or maybe you think that 90% of politically themed songs being liberal is unbiased?

Even a lot of liberals admit that the media is liberal. For a long time I couldn't figure out why some liberals deny it. I finally decided that it's because liberalism doesn't stand out to liberals. It goes unnoticed. But it sticks out like a sore thumb to a conservative.

Seriously. The media is completely inundated with liberal BS.

[exitseven]

Yes, ABC had Mike Pence on last night. The only way a republican gets on one of these shows is if they badmouth President Trump.

[OddBeMe]

Omg liberals say it? Like which ones?

But I mean…science right? They got like graphics and like math…

[holdem4884]

If you mean "open to different views" and is reality based than sure, the media has a liberal bias. That's what being liberal is, being open to different viewpoints as opposed to conservative media which is for narrow minded folk

[OddBeMe]

@holdem4884 that’s a good point actually.
@exitseven Is that how you fcks are counting “liberal” shows Vs. conservative ones? Cuz each show has different producers and agendas.

[Anonymous]

The election was likely rigged regardless of whom wins its just a question of where, and by how much it was rigged.

There is no good way to be sure that a ballot which was mailed in was ever casts by the voter to which it was assigned. This completely defeats the security of voter ID and places unconditional faith in an enormously complex distribution and processing system that can't be seen.

A system we know for a fact is non-insecure-able on just the regularity with which we end up with other people's mail alone.

[holdem4884]

How often do you receive someone else's mail? It's happened to me 1 time in about the last 10 years. During that time I've probably received around 100,000 pieces of mail correctly sent. That's an error rate of 1:100,000.

In the extremely unlikely event I was sent someone else's ballot, I'd be commiting a felony if I cast it. I have to know and fill in their personal info and forge their signature. For what, one vote? Who the hell would risk that even if they could?

[OddBeMe]

@holdem4884 even if you do receive someone else’s ballot, you have to fill out your correct info and then mail it back. So A) if the info ain’t correct like soc sec etc, ain’t counted. p and B) that person gets a 5-10 in federal prison for voter fraud. Why would anyone risk that for 1 illegal vote?

[goaded]

Don't forget that if someone doesn't receive their ballot in the mail, there's a reasonable chance they'll try to vote in person instead, and that would be flagged as trying to vote twice. If that happened hundreds of times, it would be a good indication that mail-in ballots were being intercepted.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded true. It’s like credit card fraud by mail. Why aren’t we hearing how corrupt that is? Oh because it’s not. Practically impossible to get a person’s credit card by stealing their mail.

[Opinion Owner]

@holdem4884 I get other peoples mail quite frequently even still, and not just 1 person many different people's mail. I have in many different places I've lived.

[Opinion Owner]

@OddBeMe the funny thing about mail is its almost impossible to know who sent the letter.

[holdem4884]

I'm sorry, how is knowing the sender relevant to this discussion?

Perhaps you receive mail winter's erroneously more often than most. I'll grant you this point.

So you have a blank ballot. How do you 1) obtain sometime else's highly sensitive personal information - necessary to fill out the ballot? 2) How do you know that person won't either request another ballot given they didn't receive the one they should have or vote in?

Doing either would be detected as fraud. You're fingerprints are on the ballot, you go to jail for 5-10 years.

Who's going to risk that for one vote? No one sane.

It's a non-existent problem.

[Opinion Owner]

@holdem4884 If you don't know who the sender is you can't jail anyone for the crime even if you did somehow detect the duplicate vote.

Seeing as they moved likely to anther county or state its not so likely. Many States don't track duplicate registrations state wide and few if any bother to check with other states. I know for a fact there are at least 2 places i could vote if i wanted more than 1 vote.

I don't think they take duplicate voting seriously because soo many people would tend to cast their vote by mail forget about it and then show up later in person and cast it. So you would hear about people being prosecuted or denied voting all the time in every state if they did take it serous.

1) Not soo hard to find the name and personal information depending on State requirement, when i voted absentee many years ago it was a joke in my state.

2) Easily done via public voting records, they know if you've voted recently, they can also via limited effort most states don't take, find out if you left the state. Which almost garnetee they would not cast their vote.

I know you talk about federal offenses like they would be a great deterrence but not only do you have the identifying the sender issue, you also have the lack of LEOs to do that job issue.

The Feds can't enforce most of their domestic laws against individuals as they lack even a fraction of the resources required to control 330+ million people as well as the legitimate constitutional authority to make any such law in the first place. Our system only works so long as such domestic tasks remain the exclusive domain of the States who alone can be held accountable for abuses practically.

So people really are not afraid of Federal LEOs in such cases.

[OddBeMe]

@monoprise Say wha? You know how mail works right?

[Opinion Owner]

@OddBeMe yes I know how the U. S. mail service works and doesn't work. I'm afraid i trust my own eyes of many different people's mail in my hands more than I trust your claims.
I have to regularly take trips to the post office to return it.

[OddBeMe]

You said you don’t know where mail comes from. It’s at the top left. Called sender.

And just because mail in ballots might get sent to a wrong home is what we’ve been talking about. You’d have to know the persons personal data and risk going to jail for 10 years. All for one illegal vote that will be caught and discarded.

[Opinion Owner]

@OddBeMe
I guess if they got you to buy the democrat line on gun control, then I guess you really believe every criminal is heading to the gun store to buy a gun that can be traced to him for uses in his own crimes.

Those criminals that dumb tend to end their careers very quickly if not promptly released to try again by a equally naive politician in black robe or suite.

Regardless almost all real Criminals know or learn very quickly not to give their real names and addresses.

[OddBeMe]

Ooh! Sudden switch from mail to guns! I’ve never been that naive. But I know the more we regulate guns the less they end up being sold on the street And any legal gun owner shouldn’t mind a few extra steps before attaining a killing machine.

[Opinion Owner]

@OddBeMe I didn't change subjects I drew a line between your assumption of on mail and the assumptions on Guns.

I don't think you can control guns in this country, there are already 450 million of them and counting and with the mic-manufacting revolution the ability to make more is becoming less and less challenging. Therefore the only path forward is to make using said guns less advantageous for the criminals who would missuse them.

We know this works well becase it wasn't more than 100 years ago that everyone had guns.

[OddBeMe]

Actually that’s a myth. Old west was quite gun free in towns. Something about drunks and guns in the same vicinity.

But I agree, lots of guns here.

[Opinion Owner]

The fact that Towns in the old west could have gun free laws does not mean everyone didn't have guns. It simply means they were by local laws compelled to give them up temporary in some towns.

This of course proves 2 things we might agree on:
A) Politicians even then were making silly laws that created new problems and they largely could not enforce. Although the small scale and use of civil enforcement meant they did a much better job than current governments.
B) The 2nd amendment like the other parts of the Federal constitution which do not specifically refer to the States does not apply to the states (including towns).

Regardless criminals then did in fact keep their guns and people did in fact get shot regardless.

[joeldalton]

lmao, how many years were there dem majorities in congress and the whitehouse and you don’t have “single payer health care, clean water, and solar cars”? Jesus, Christ the left really can’t meme. But at least it reveals the goal is to censor dissenting voices among all the other bullshit.

[OddBeMe]

Right. Because slim majorities means we can pass whatever we want. Oops nope. Phillies!

[joeldalton]

So wait, you can’t pass laws when you have the majority in congress? And you vote for these impotent assholes again and again? You’re dumber than I thought.

[OddBeMe]

And I guess you stay home on Election Day because you don’t know what a filibuster is. That’s prob for the best. Leave it us smarties.

[joeldalton]

Lmao. How’s that college loan forgiveness working out for you?

[OddBeMe]

Right wing courts blocked it. Don’t you hate political justices? That was your line back during gay marriage.

[joeldalton]

Oh, I know they blocked it. When even pelosi knew it was illegal, it’s pretty easy to figure out.

[holdem4884]

Democrats also still have moderate and conservative members in their caucus. That's opposed to Republicans who've been fairly successful driving out anyone who isn't far right.

Did you know that up until recently, liberal Republicans had existed for over 100 years? Those are now an extinct species due to the Trump era ideological purification of the party. Nice closed minded work

[joeldalton]

@holdem4884 Well that's true. And there used to be liberal democrats. Now they're authoritarian leftists.

[OddBeMe]

@holdem4884 Um…over 100 years ago Repubs were the liberal party. But they switched around Civil Rights and the southern strategy. Unless you’re as dumb as Joel here and think liberals were the slaveholders?

[joeldalton]

@OddBeMe is the classic shitlib. Nothing liberty minded about him other than the liberty for him to molest children.

[OddBeMe]

No I’m not Donald

https://youtu.be/4d7WDsrlzGg

[joeldalton]

I didn’t realize she was underage when trump was president.

[OddBeMe]

Oh so incest is cool?

[joeldalton]

You must think so since you have no issue with biden showering with his underage daughter.

[holdem4884]

Another MAGA moron who can't stay on point and make an argument so he brings up idiotic baseless QAnon conspiracies.

Child molestation is serious you asshole. Asshats like you need to stop calling anyone you disagree with a child molester AS IF IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING you morally repugnant intellectual degenerate

[holdem4884]

Republicans were not a liberal party 100 years ago. They had some liberal members going back further, like Theodore Roosevelt, but that party changed. During the 1920's they had a platform of opposition to the League of Nations, support for high tariffs, and promotion of business interests. Not Teddy Roosevelt's party.

They were so illiberal that Bob La Follette split from them to form the "Progressive Party" in 1924 with the goal of reversing the "combined power of the private monopoly system over the political and economic life of the American people", and he called for the outlawing of child labor, stronger laws to help labor unions, and protections for civil liberties.

Yes, all those moronic racist conservatives in the south "Dixiecrats" left the party after the Voting Rights (1963) and Civil Rights Act (1964) were passed.

Those ignorant racists became Republicans and STILL ARE to this day.

You're welcome for the free history lesson.

[joeldalton]

@holdem4884 totally, Ashley wrote a fake entry in her diary about her dad showering with her just on the hopes he’d be president and someone would find it. Talk about a conspiracy theory.

[holdem4884]

Well, you can't reason with stupid...

[holdem4884]

The 2020 election was neither stolen nor rigged: A primer

www.washingtonpost.com/.../

[goaded]

https://lostnotstolen.org/ is another good source, written by serious conservatives.

[Anonymous]

Right. Republicans can’t lose elections unless fraud was involved. You’re supposed to disregard the historical back and forth nature of our elections and swallow that nonsense. You’re a RINO or libtard if you don’t. Oh and proof of that fraud is not required. You’re to believe in it on faith value alone, like Santa Claus or the Loch Ness Monster.

[Hotzone417]

They just can't handle losing fair and square, so they claim that the election was stolen.

[exitseven]

It just seems funny that everyplace that has an endless election period with early and late voting, mail in ballots, ballot drop boxes and compromised or defective voting machines usually the democrat wins by a slim margin.

[KayMay]

It's probably just a coincidence. lol
Oh, and you forgot to mention "ballot harvesting."

And there's no way that this stupid meme wasn't created by John Fetterman. lol


Solar cars? Really? Who is that stupid? I saw a video about a Hummer that Biden praised. It's electric and by GM. The guy plugged it into standard household voltage, and he did that on a Tuesday. The charger said the Hummer would be fully charged by Saturday. Yeah, those solar cars are just around the corner.

[OddBeMe]

Or…when you severely limit voting access Repubs win?

[dustybiker]

Not true. My old area had reds win by 300 votes.

[OddBeMe]

@KayMay ballot harvesting sounds like abortion for elections. Trump should tried that out in court. Oh he did and lost every time…

[KayMay]

There's a lot of sleazy things that are't illegal.

[OddBeMe]

@KayMay yet election fraud is illegal…

[exitseven]

By severely limited you must mean unlimited mail in ballots with no means to check validity, unsecured ballot drop boxes, no voter ID and not purging the voter rolls from dead people.

[dustybiker]

@exitseven Have you ever used a mail-in ballot or looked at it? It has to be signed and dated outside the envelope too to be counted, and the siggie is checked with one already confirmed on file.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker It depends on the state, In my state which is a liberal hell hole the ballots are supposed to be signed but nobody checks the signature against the one on file at the town hall, Nothing stops people from voting more than once.

[dustybiker]

@exitseven I do find that hard to believe. But okay.

[OddBeMe]

How does exit know that signatures aren’t checked? Is he part of the conspiracy?

[exitseven]

one of the things I know about working for state government is that nobody does their job.

[dustybiker]

Funny how people do their job well when it turns out the way we want it to though.

[dustybiker]

And I say that honestly. The person local I didn’t want to win, won.

[OddBeMe]

My god…that means nothing in the govt works. Wait actually it does.

[OddBeMe]

But audits run by republicans keep clearing them as secure. Strange huh?

Maybe those states should invest in better voting equipment and processes. But then Repubs don’t like people voting do they?

[Snakeyes7]

At the very least, nothing illegal was going on. I would argue that the fact that 39 states have made ballot harvesting legal is a bit of a problem along with mail in voting allowing more non-informed voters to make decisions for what the rest of the country has to go through.

[jshm2]

As the old American saying goes.

If I win, you deserved it. But if you win, you cheated.

[DryGermanGuy]

Folks, just wait for the next shocking blockbuster: „Two million mules“!
🙄🤡🙄🤡🙄🤡

[OddBeMe]

Haha…wait huh? Tf you talkin now?

[DryGermanGuy]

I'm giving you an ironic solution how the MAGA mad hatters might rationalize their party's losses/failed winnings. "2000 Mules" is a number too small by now. :-)

[OddBeMe]

Was that ever a number? We had 5 million ex-slaves here at the end of the civil war…

[DryGermanGuy]

Mate, is your humor unit defective? I might as well have used „gazillion“, the number has to be large, nothing else.

[Anonymous]

That sounds right, yes. And in honor of the dems who claim to want things like inclusivity and equality, if you would lose trust in a Republican for this correct assumption, that will have include an equal ammount of trust lost in the politics of those who claimed the 2016 election was rigged. For equalitys sake.

[HighValue]

Republicans mostly won and I still think there was cheating due to excessive time for counting votes in swing states/areas. 5 days to a week. Obviously there is something wrong.

[fembotnpc777]

I hate the liberals and MTG equally, and yes, the elections are rigged. Glad I could clarify.

[OddBeMe]

Strange set of hates there. Why do you hate Mtg yet agree with her?

[fembotnpc777]

Your binary American logic is an example of my NOT strange, not-rocket-science-here set of hates.
I hate insufferable, irksome people who are relentlessly obsessed with public opinion and the concept of "winning". Like stfu.

[OddBeMe]

That’s…every politician

[fembotnpc777]

Well, I'm not very political. I mostly just ankle bite and go who the fuck knows anymore. I can guarantee you that I have much less faith in politicians than you do.

[Fuentes]

Lol I'm glad I don't live in AZ ain't no way Katie Hobbs won as gov in a open carry state where Dems wanna get rid of guns & weapons. And Kari Lake lost by 20 votes after Machines went down hahaha they need a re-count.

[Fuentes]

Let's not forget Maricopa County is the most conservative county and the biggest county in AZ lol 🤡🌏

[OddBeMe]

And you’re an expert on AZ’s population? When more people vote, it turns Dem. Hence voter ID

[Fuentes]

So people who have s majority carry are designed, my ass shut up, I lived I in AZ for a bit and whenever I went to PHX I saw nothing but open carry. Slap your self liberal, that's like saying North Carolina would go blue lolol!!!

[OddBeMe]

You know there’s like 20 things wrong with that last reply? Ignoring the grammar, we’ll sail right for logical fallacy. I see it so it’s true? Seriously?

[Fuentes]

I lived in AZ before, so that's how i know and I said a state that is open carry and majority is conservative votes in a Democratic Gov who will take away their guns? What sense does that make shut up. Especially AZ reported machines going down but that's just a cocidence and Katie Hobbs just randomly wins by 20 votes hahahaha STFU.

[OddBeMe]

So again…you think just because everyone you see carries a gun…that means everyone in AZ does.

Logical fallacy. You double dipped in dumbasshood.

[Fuentes]

No I clearly said a majority of people who lived in the state open carried therefore obviously most people are conservatives. Think about why people thought twice about robberies in that state because everyone has a gun lol

No you're the dumb ass, Arizona has been back to back conservative Maricopa County Is the BIGGEST CONSERVATIVE county in the state. How does a loser like Katie Hobbs win by 20 votes come on quit being stupid. Nobody just turns Democrat in the year of inflation that has been caused by democrats who keep throwing all our money at Ukraine.

[OddBeMe]

Um no not even a the vast majority open carry in Arizona dumbass.
www.usconcealedcarry.com/.../

Perhaps you fail to see those you devalue.

[Fuentes]

Are you dumb did you read what you posted it's posted as YES as a open carry state therefore people do carry. What drugs are you smoking if you go to PHX you will see 20 people carrying like it's nothing.

[OddBeMe]

Are you stupid? Just because it’s listed as that, don’t mean people carry. As my link shows, less than 10% do.

[Fuentes]

We gotta catch a fade cause Maricopa County is the biggest county in AZ

[OddBeMe]

If you want to sit at the big boys table…study logical fallacies. You made like 10 here

[Fuentes]

Big boy you're far from that 100% hahahahahahhahahahhahahahahha!!!

[OddBeMe]

You know you just look dumber, right? Sayin it as a friendly voice. Try harder.

[Fuentes]

No you look dumber and always sound dumber, your name is oddbeme do the math buddy lol

[FilmGuy93]

Nah... but I also didn't think the red wave would ever happen, and I didn't buy into the stolen election narrative. I didn't believe it in 2016 and I absolutely didn't beleive it in 2020.

[Anonymous]

If the rebubs won it would have been the Russians’ fault.

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/XX2Ejqjz6TA

Here’s a montage of Democrats denying election results.

😐

[OddBeMe]

Great! Just watched all that. Not once did they say the election was rigged or invalid. And whatever “emotions” a washed up candidate like Hillary has after the fact…don’t really matter much.

But a sitting president…hoping to fcking OVERTURN an election
https://youtu.be/5MnNzKgy6Qg

[holdem4884]

There's a huge difference between those Democrats calling out unambiguous evidence of election interference conducted by another nation-state (Russia) and Republicans making up baseless claims of fraud WITHOUT evidence.

MOST importantly. The 2016 election occurred on 11/8/16. Hillary conceded to Trump on 11/9/16, THE NEXT DAY. Trump has never conceded.

I'm not a fan of Hillary but she acted with integrity and accepted defeat despite having won over 3 million more votes than Trump, Russian interference, and the highly controversial FBI comment just before the election.

[dustybiker]

Politics. It always ends in tears.

[OddBeMe]

Like sex, am I right?

[dustybiker]

Does it? 😂

[KrakenAttackin]

Funny how caches of "Republican" ballots are never found.

[OddBeMe]

What caches? Where?

[Anonymous]

How about you count the votes on time like it always been? It's going to be pretty suspicious if every delayed count and recount ends up going democrat.

[888theGreat]

no, you would have a real jan 6th with people laying dead everywhere

[OddBeMe]

Two dead cops.

[888theGreat]

One cop died of an heart attack and would have died if no one was there. The woman was executed by Capital Police working for DNC

[hammeronfire]

Yeah that’s how republicans work. Thanks to trump they went from most being reasonable people to most being fucking stupid

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

People that push such foolishness are fools.

Just simply ignore them. It's that simple.

[NewtoTheSouth]

Every election is different. There were hundreds of elections last week. No would say they were all rigged.

[Twalli]

It's odd that they were apparently adept enough to rig the election for Biden, but only him.

[Anonymous]

I doubt it was rigged

[OddBeMe]

By whom?

[OddBeMe]

Oh doubt. Missed that one.

[Anonymous]

It doesn't matter who wins; the system lacks enough transparency for people to trust the results unless there is a 10 point spread.

[Papabubbles]

That's the republican thinking