Do you think Musk offer peace plan for ukraine realitic enough?

[ibodi]

and the first lady in ukraine?

I think it is good way but just the way instead of content.

I think russia shall rebuilt ukraine and develop as any states of russia's to beome one powerful economy again and ukraine need to be a bridge between Europe and russia and solve USA big brother problems. I dont mean in name because USA can not feel it but if you change not to knee to hem they would do bad thing to you.

Then mongolian go back to Taiwan then back to China to solve USSR can not retrait to admit a country habit. Although Mongolian does not manage mongolia very well now to solve USA play excuse of balance. Let Asian deal with Asian' thing.

[Soteris]

No, that is stupid. Ukraine needs to be Ukraine, anything else is unacceptable. Also worth pointing out is that Ukraine is set to experience massive growth if they win this war while Russia is set on the path of collapse. Why would you join the side that is going towards economic oblivion when Ukraine could rival Germany by being independent and prospering for a while?

[ibodi]

USA will want them pay back that will not be good American just leave bastard there as taiwan. You only can get what USA give. then American will say cheap people. As japan in WW2, they pay for rebuilding then they know each other in develop. So now the world still like Japan instead of China.
Slav can re learn their story in this way. Now china develop their weapon taiwan still need to buy it from USA and need them to allow it. It is funny that key parts come from China. USA only take their money but Now USA and Japan's debt are top of the world. I dont think their theory that they can fellow. I am not nationlist but economy need culture instead of throwing rubbish to backyard.

[Soteris]

Aside from that being bullshit, what is the alternative? The Russians already proved that they would also shit on Ukraine during the period when Ukraine was part of the USSR and got absolutely raped for the benefit of the Russian territory.

[ibodi]

and you see taiwanese go to Japan now, they think taiwanese is no different with chinese. that can not use politic to be ally.

[Soteris]

Again, what makes Russia different from what you claim USA to be?

[ibodi]

Ukraine now is catching embezzlers in war did you see ukrainian before war?
USA only blame other without seeing themselve.

[Soteris]

Again, what makes Russia better for Ukraine?

[ibodi]

It is not the problem of get better it dont get worst. Peace is the first condition of humen needing develop.

[Soteris]

In which case its even more important for Ukraine to win because Russia is planning further wars after Ukraine.

[ibodi]

There is no war It is just westerners' fear to expend as if westerners try to get involved in Taiwan because this war and trade war as French blame Vietnamese. so marks is right if you work hard you feel reality. I am not against globalize but in which case you can learn communism spirit and you know what is the meaning of reform through labor. there is no clean chains as Japanese don't know what they eat is pork, the name is pork though but you blame pig itself dirty. they shall close nature more.

[Soteris]

Again. Defeating Russia is the only way to stop the war without starting a new one.

[Guy13]

I think Musk's Peace Plan for Ukraine is simply an attempt for people to bust his chops on his own Twitter... Press and Money.

[artsy_dragon]

Or they can just stay independent

[Anonymous]

Probably not.