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I know everyone is probably sick of reading headline after headline about another mass shooting but honestly what are everyone's thoughts? https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
I think a majority of those shootings happened in relation to another crime, using a weapon not legal in that area, in possession of someone not permitted to posess said weapon, and not covered by mass media.
And yet people were still shot and killed in those shootings. I do think you make a good point though, I notice the mass media tends to make a big deal out the shootings of guns that were purchased legally to make a point. Also shootings using an assault rifle.
The loss of innocent life is a tragedy, and the guilty party or parties should be pursued to the fullest extent of the law. I'm happy that you acknowledge the media bias towards mass shootings of the "legal purchase" variety; the proxy omission being that the media doesn't care about gang shootings in larger cities even though they're collated in the data.
Out of curiosity, can you define an 'assault rifle'?
I honestly don't know enough about guns to get into technical definitions I just know that the media likes to focus on the "assault rifles" as if they are they are they only culprit.
That's totally reasonable! I'm also happy to hear that you can admit you don't know about something; it's refreshing. What if I told you that the overwhelming majority of the mass shooting events listed in that link occurred with a semiautomatic pistol, not an assault rifle? Or that select fire weapons haven't been made in America since 1986, and the few left often sell for (on the low end) $30,000 and as such likely would be well out of reach for criminals or others wishing to use them to cause harm?
I would wonder if you have read all the reports, lol.
I scanned a few, but I don't have the ability to read every one. However, I am a firearm enthusiast and I've reviewed similar data for many years past. There are some common trends within the data. Have you read all of them listed in that link? If so, can you confirm what firearms were used? Or the reasoning behind each incident?
No, honeslty I had no idea this many shootings were happening on a daily basis. Why what trends in the data have you noticed?
The commonality I've noted, using the criteria of mass shooting being "4 or more persons shot by a single individual over 24 hours", has been that a majority of mass shooters are young black men*¹ with previous charges including drugs, assault, robbery, and general gang relations. The firearms used are primarily handguns, few legally obtained; usually stolen or ghost guns.*²
1.) I only refer to their skin color not to insinuate that black men are predisposed to gun violence, but as you noted previously with the knowledge that media really push the 'assault rifle" angle, they also push the "white male shooter" angle.
2.) 'Ghost guns' refers to firearms that had a serial number at time of manufacture, but had it removed by the time they were used in a crime. It is not referring to homemade firearms.
That's good to know thanks, at some point I plan to study the data more from this list. So far the only reports I've read seeemed to indicate poor impulse control, or that the shooting happened after some type of altercation.
You can never go wrong with data collection! But thank you for hearing me out thus far and considering my words.
Going off your observations alone, would you comfortably say that the shooters featured in the data should never have had access to firearms in the first place?
it kinda seems that way yeah, that they shouldn't have access to firearms in the first place, but I haven't read enough to figure why they did.
I've had a chance to look into some more of those cases listed, but a lot of information is held back or otherwise unrelased, pending investigation. I would suggest- if you wish, of course- to review date from the year previous, hopefully investigations have been able to have been completed and more data be added to the list.
I also want to apologize about the other person who commented on this open question; the Bemuse person- as I strongly disagree with the way he's attempted to phrase his disagreements. It's very easy to attribute someone who disagrees as an enemy and that's not healthy for discourse. You haven't claimed so far to advocate for any disarmament of citizens, only expressing concern about data. You also haven't claimed to know all the answers, seeking others opinions on the matter. In this, we can have a healthy debate on the root cause of issues and what actions, if any, can make this country safer as a whole. So again, thank you for hearing my side of the discussion, and please don't take that ranting personal.
This is directly tied to mental illness.
Mental illness has also sky rocketed.
I’m getting tired of people not seeing the correlation
That’s exactly the problem. Since we are not addressing the mental health crisis. When people that own guns begin to lose their minds, they go completely under the radar and then pull such atrocities.
I own guns. In fact I also think allowing good intentioned people to be armed in public areas would provide some level of protection to these areas in the event a mass shooter attempts to kill as many people possible.
There are examples of this happening on the internet where a potential mass shooting was stopped simply because a person in the vicinity was also armed and stopped them immediately.
We cannot realistically rely on law enforcement to stop every mass shooting. And no, banning guns won’t stop gun violence. The same way people still manage to get their hands on illegal substances
Why not at least have better background checks then and red flag laws. For instance there was a story in recent years about a guy who made threat to shoot up a facility. They even had a restraining order against him for making said threats. That same sherrifs department clear him to get a gun permit and what did he do? He went and shot up the facility that made threats against him because their was no red flag to indicated that he had made threats against that facility when he applied for the gun permit. Many chalked it up to clerical error, or imcompetence on the part of the sherrifs department but there had been other cases where similar threats are made and then carried out.
*facility made restraining order against him, not threat*
I’m all for red flag laws.
A perfect example of red flag laws being useful is with the mass shooting that happened in the elementary school in Uvalde Texas.
The kid was posting VERY questionable shit on social media. Such as a bag with dead bloody cats, giving the middle finger to the camera while holding the bag up.
If that doesn’t show mental illness I don't know what does
The problem is so many people don’t speak up when they see something wrong. They rather turn a blind eye, until it’s too late. THEN do they care and then instead of addressing the root of the problem they wanna blame superficial things
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The current supreme court is likely to say that individuals can own nukes because there wasn't a law against them in 1791.
Satire site TheOnion has run the headline ""No Way to Prevent This", Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens" 31 times since 2014.
There was a drive-by shooting in London a few weeks ago. It made international headlines because it's extremely rare. I searched for Birmingham (the second largest city in England, over 1 million population), but all the shootings I found were in the US.
Actually, I’m quite surprised it isn’t slightly more.
Also, definition of mass shootings because some people sound confused but: the FBI (amongst other laws, and police) defines mass shootings as any incident in which at least three/four people were shot.
My thoughts are that most of these shootings are gang violence. The word “mass shooting” is used because it gives people the impressions that these are events like Sandy Hook. The phrase is emotionally charged and overused to push anti-2nd amendment legislation.
The US has like ten times the number of gun deaths compared to any other developed country. It's time to regulate gun ownership, ban civilian ownership of weapons capable of a high rate of fire.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
It's pretty simple, just stop reading the fake news and stop living around democrat run cities.
I suppose it's easier to dismiss the news you don't like as fake news, but then again you believe it's happening in democratic run cities. So which is it, is fake news, or only true in democratic run cities?
If you look at the raw statistics from the police that's data you can use for analysis. You don't need to watch the news for that. If you sit around watching the propaganda storm that is spun up in a legacy media narrative, which often portrays the shooter's race, political affiliation, and motive incorrectly for weeks to push a narrative of fear and control and then drops the storry after the facts come out, then that's the fake news. Like I said stop watching the fake news. You can still look at the data and recognize where crimes occurs most often and then decide to live where there is low crime. Anyone with a brain could comprehend what I wrote. The fact that I have to break it down for you, shows you lack some serious chunk of your brain.
So people who live in high crime areas deserve to be shot and killed? The point is the crime is existing and if you look at many of these news stories they are not all happening in high crime areas. You go ahead though and keep up your classless attitude, with all your insults, it only makes your side of the debate weaker.
Crime always exists. You’re just making an active effort to live within it and under a constant state of fear due to your own poor choices in life. You may have been born in a Democrat city, but you’re an adult now and are making an active choice to remain there and live the life they do. Adults tend to look for low crime areas with good schools for their children to attend. How about you mature up and make better choices about your living circumstances. Then you won’t be so panicky. Oh and by the way, you don't have a side of the debate. All you did is express fear.
When did I express fear? I posted a question about 73 mass shootings so far and you made all kind of assumptions about me being democrat, me watching fake news whatever that means and me living in a high crime democratic city. I don't even live in a city, and most people where I live vote repulican. Funny how you made all those assumptions though, purely out of my concern about gun violence as if democrats are the only one who car about people dying from gun violence.
*who care*
You have no credibility. You're pushing a narrative. Changing your lie mid stream doesn't do anything to persuade me nor does it actually put up an argument against my position. The fact that there is more crime in Democrat run cities than in rural Republican run areas is logical from a statistical point of view. There are more people in Democrat run cities, thus chances of crimes being committed rise. More demand for access to land and resources stresses the carrying capacity of a plot of land and leads to more competition among humans. This creates more economic inequality within a population. That’s what happens when you live too close together. Cities also house large populations of minorities that have higher rates of criminal behavior culturally. This is all statistically logical. My solution for you was to leave that shit hole and spread the fuck out so that you aren’t in as much competition with other humans for the same plot of land and then stop watching media hysteria that messes with your emotions and keeps you in a state of fear and stress. You can’t attack my position because it’s a logical solution that works. Instead you have to attack the person, because you have no argument that can stand up to mine. All you can do is spin up more lies and call names because you’re dumb and weak.
Okay, geez, sorry for being upset that people are getting killed and what appears to be senseless acts of violence. I think I called you classless but I'm pretty sure you've flung more insults my way and than I have yours.
I asked a question to get everyone's thoughts because until recently I didn't realize this many shootings of 4 or more people were happening. I don't know when I told any lies, or expressed fear and hysteria. I feel bad that people are dying form gun violence, some of this violence happens in cities near me, where people I love and care about live. I also ya know, feel bad about people dying in such a tragic way, sure I live and a safe area, but I care about what happens to our society and the people in it.
You're the one arguing that "people who live in high crime areas deserve to be shot and killed". That's a pretty extreme view you've got there. I know you tried to disingenuously put those words in my mouth as part of your propaganda push, but they are in fact your words and your views not mine. I gave a solution, and your response was that people deserve to be shot and killed. That's pushing fear and hysteria.
The fact is everyone has a right to life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness in America. By living in Democrat run shit holes cities that are crime prone, you have a higher threat to your life, you are having your liberties stripped away from you, and you seem unhappy because of it. That is an active choice you are making. So the solution to that is to move to a more desirable situation that is better for your health and the health of your family. The more people that make a choice to do that, the less populated the cities will be. The reduced economic competition for land and resources that results from such action within those cities also helps to fix the problem. Humans aren't designed to live in prison cells stack on top of each other a hundred stories high fighting for space and resources. Exposure to nature has been linked to a host of benefits, including improved attention, lower stress, better mood, reduced risk of psychiatric disorders, and even improvements in empathy and cooperation among humans. It reduces economic inequality by lowering real estate prices/rent. It also changes views on governance of a population. The larger the concentration of a population, the more chaotic it becomes. Therefore the more control of the chaos government attempts to attain and the stronger the police presence becomes. Cities bread communism and authoritarianism which is anti-American and anti-human by their very nature. Cities are what cause the psychological disorders that push people to the edge and pursued them to lash out violently against the others around them.
The negative influence of Democrat cities is so great that it bleeds into the surrounding areas across an entire state often enough. Centralized dictatorial governments tend to ignore the needs of the people. This is why there are secession movements across the United States at the moment in places like Oregon moving to Great Idaho, New California, Virginia counties moving their counties to West Virginia, and so on. They don't want to be part of the power structure in centralized Democrat dictatorships that cause economic inequality and destroy liberty which leads to discontent within the citizenry. Anger in the mob leads to violence.
Most of these are gangbusters shooting each other. There have been 3 or 4 when civilians have been killed. Those are tragic.
Nothing special. Someone gets shot and dies everyday in my city. Just a regular day.
Wow! Didn't know about it. I thought it was just 1 or 2
I'm right there with you, I actually thought it was like 6 or 7. Those are only the ones that made national headlines. It's jarring to realize that there has been this many mass shootings.
I don't think it's full safe for people now if it's that bad.
Well, I don't feel like any place is safe anymore. I feel like any day I could be involved in some type of shooting, sadly most people will deal with this fear by carrying and gun which could easily lead to more gun involved disputes.
Exactly! I agree with you. Guns should be fully banned. People take lives these days as if they are taking chocolates from Walmart
Americans will never learn. It's sad.
Many only seem to learn when it happens to people they love, otherwise it's just business as usual.
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