What are your opinions on how society is shaming white people for their skin color due to what white people did hundreds of years ago (short video)?

[Anonymous]

Short video included. People are shaming white people for their skin color due to what white people did hundreds of years ago. What do you think about it? Is it something related to equality or just society shame like colourism?

twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1631508065265635328

[JamesDiaz11]

I think most white people have only two options: (1) be ashamed of what other white people "did" in the past, or (2) avoid personal blame for what other white people "did" in the past. Neither of these options give white people the option of being PROUD of what their people did in the past. There should be four options, including: (2) be proud of what other white people did in the past, or (2) avoid personal responsibility for what other white people did.

White people are arguably the most successful people in history. No other people came close to our advancement of the sciences, technology, and military- not to mention the things we've built. We defeated and conquered other people, who were every bit as inclined for conquest as we are, but WE WON- why can't we take pride in that? We are the descendants of the most powerful race- we conquered the world, and even left the world to put our mark on the moon.

Going back to the first statement- history is described in strictly Leftist/ Liberal terms, where white people did bad, which makes taking pride in it impossible.

[Gabriel-Chicanito]

Me as a Mexican-Chicano:there's good & bad in everything..
Look what the "Ghetto Thrash" did, too. Giving the Welfare a Bad name/low Dept. stores, t' affect their own kind.(I wish God did more, than just fold'is arms)

[Gummy_Cluster]

Let me put it this way... Disney is losing billions for being stupid enough to shame innocent people for something they didn't do.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/SAzGObgdz1I

I don't have an ounce of guilt for slavery, because I wasn't part of it. I understand that there are an abundance of stupid people out their that want to keep racism alive and well, I just never thought Disney would be part of that. People are cancelling their Disney+ subscriptions because of this moronic video, and Disney and their stock holders deserve to lose.

Morgan Freeman is a genius. I just wish people could figure that out. But I think they know, but are just exploiting racism for personal gain.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GeixtYS-P3s

[SnowedIn]

@muskratlove... have you read this? This user got MHO and what they say is very insightful.

[MuskratLove]

@SnowedIn

Wow, good find. I couldn't agree more. The people who claim to hate racism, and the ones that love racism the most.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think the purpose is to necessarily shame anyone but rather to acknowledge and teach our history fairly. This country has had a horrible record on race throughout its history and that still hasn’t been fully reckoned with. There is still a certain amount of institutional racism today. You move forward by learning the mistakes of the past. Unfortunately, there are people who desire to sanitize and whitewash that past.

[Asker]

Do you feel personally responsible for slavery

[Opinion Owner]

No. Seeing as my family came here from El Salvador in the 1980’s, that would be impossible but I do have a more objective view of US history than many do.

[CALIGVLA]

Every single human group has an ugly past. If you think white people invented slavery, murder and discrimination, sorry but you understand human nature just as much as you understand nuclear physics.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA You’re making an irrelevant argument that no one is disputing. Every country has its sins. That’s absolutely true. The point is that a sizable portion of the US population refuses to acknowledge ours in a meaningful way and would rather close their eyes and cover their ears because it’s uncomfortable for them to talk about directly.

[CALIGVLA]

I think it's funny that while you're saying that my race is shit you can totally be a descendant of the Aztecs.

Have you ever wondered what your ancient people did to other tribes?

They had a plethora of murderous rituals. In fact they were the biggest terrorists this world has seen. I don't know about any other people that were used to torturing children to make them cry as much as possible before ripping their hearts from their bodies while it's still pulsing.

Are you ashamed of your ancestors?

Do you think yours are better than mine?

I don't think so!

[Asker]

@CALIGVLA you are going to spread racism. We already have black people that hate us. At least Hispanics are more pro white than pro black

[CALIGVLA]

I love Latinos. But I hate the woke regardless of skin color, ethnicity, gender and social class.

Wokies need to be humiliated whenever they open their mouth to disrespect others.

[Asker]

Probably the worst enemies is actually white liberals and black liberals. They are already teaching self hatred immediately upon 1st grade. My niece is getting bullied at school for being white. She is really pale and we are going to have to move her to a new city because of her. The admin won’t do anything. They also were forcing her to be the boyfriend of another black student. She is only in fourth grade.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Once again you’re engaging in an argument of your own creation. I made no statements as to any culture or ethnicity being better. I already acknowledged that every nation has its own sins. Reading comprehension is perhaps not your strong suit? I’m only making the case that reckoning with and learning from those sins is difficult here because so many people refuse to acknowledge their history honestly and seem to have an agenda of perpetuating racism. Many countries are just more enlightened about these things. It is ok to admit your country has shortcomings, especially when they’re painfully obvious.

[CALIGVLA]

I know that these things happen. My cousin's brother-in-law was sucker punched at NYC subway by a black guy. He could have died because of that. I know other guy who was beaten to death by a black guy and the judge gave him a 2 year sentence because "he was such a nice guy."

And then we have to hear walking trash like pink anon giving us lectures on how "evil" and "privileged" we are.

[CALIGVLA]

Oh, pink anon. Do you wanna talk about history? I told you *YOUR* history.

Yes, our previous generations weren't used to learn about the crimes of the people who built the United State. Yes, this country was founded on genocide, forced cultural assimilation, slavery, serfdom, etc.

But you know what? We didn't learn that the Aztecs were crazy murderous people who loved torturing children, etc, etc either.

If I must be ashamed if my ancestors, you must be ashamed of yours too.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Only other racists buy into the myth of white victimhood. Sure there are white people who have been attacked by a person of color. The world isn’t perfect. However, your people have not been oppressed by a majority for centuries or had to live with institutional racism that forces you to live with built in disadvantages. You are typically treated less harshly by the criminal justice system. You are typically paid more for doing the same work. You are far more likely to advance in your career. White schools are better funded than minority schools. Access to health care is more limited in minority communities. There are many other examples and it all adds up to an unequal society, often by design. Your comments are completely ignorant and you have no clue what you’re talking about because you haven’t experienced it and you refuse to open your eyes to listen and learn. You are precisely what I’m talking about. It’s laughable that you prioritize someone being sucker or randomly beaten. If that’s all minority groups had to worry about, it would be a much better world.

[CALIGVLA]

LOL!!! You wokies resemble religious fanatics. In fact your political cult was created by religious fanatics who at some point stopped believing in "god." They stopped believing in god, but they didn't stop being psychopathic weirdos like you.

I call a victim when they're a victim.

If someone sucker punched and almost killed your brother because of his ethnicity, your brother would be a victim of violence and racial hatred.

If someone had beaten your father to death and got a 2y sentence, your father would be a victim of murder and his aggressor would get no proper punishment.

This is obvious to me. But, again, I don't follow psychopathic cults. Can you say the same?

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Oh snd MY history is US history. I was born and raised here just the same as you. I am well versed on the history of my grandmother’s homeland and there are still atrocities going on today. The country remains a work in progress. I don’t hide from or minimize any documented history. I welcome that spotlight. It’s how a culture or nation moves forward. That’s the difference between us.

[CALIGVLA]

"The world isn’t perfect."

You're saying that the world. Well, except white people, right?

Wypipo are "evil, racist subhumans," right?

The world would be a perfect place if white people got 💀 right?

No wypipo, no racism, no evil, no anything bad!

[CALIGVLA]

"Access to health care is more limited in minority communities."

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You don't know how much it costs to get a tooth extracted in this country.

Of course poor whites have access to decent healthcare!!!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Again you’re putting words in my mouth that I didn’t say or even hint at. It’s obvious you have no intention of being honest in your arguments, so there’s little reason to further engage you. You’re happy with the status quo because you benefit from it. Be honest for once. That’s why you don’t want to have a productive conversation and you want to distract by turning the discussion to a barbaric ancient civilization, which had/has no bearing on us here in the United States. Luckily you are a dying breed and things are beginning to change for the better here. The U. S. is rapidly becoming a multicultural nation and that will only benefit us as a whole.

[CALIGVLA]

I hate the status quo we have in the US since I'm not a billionaire (and neither do you).

But I couldn't care less about it.

I'm engaged to a Japanese woman. I will get Japan's citizenship at some point. I've been there and I can say I won't miss my "white privilege" for a second.

Before leaving, I'd want to cordially shove my US passport up your you-know-what. That's the best place for my US citizenship to stay!

I'm not a "dying breed" by the way. I'm very fertile! 😉

[Opinion Owner]

Riiiiiight 🙄

[CALIGVLA]

Yes, right. I despise this country so much that I want to watch you guys turn it into a big El Salvador with nukes. Maybe China will put you all out of misery?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

That's the best fate the US could have.

[CALIGVLA]

By tbe way, pink anon, thia country is getting more and more "diverse," but is it fighting for world peace?

Is it fighting for the dignity of the Palestinian people?

Is it paying reparations to the Iraqi people for murdering a million of them and robbing them of their wealth a while ago?

No! You sell yourselves as a kind of walking perfection, but in reality you're the same 💩!

[Opinion Owner]

No one is making the case that racism and inequality is the only problem with the country. Again you’re trying to distract by bringing up these other issues which are irrelevant to the topic posted here. You’re doing so to avoid acknowledging the race problem. You want me to go down a rabbit hole debating the Iraq War or Aztec brutality so you can avoid an uncomfortable discussion that you know you’re on the wrong side of. I’m not going to allow you to do that. If you want to discuss those other things, start a post about them. I have definite opinions on those issues too. None of that absolves America of its race problem though, no matter how much you’d like it to.

[CALIGVLA]

This country has a soul problem.

Its social structure was built by religious fanatics. They stopped believing in "god" and became people like you. Still fanatics.

It might be getting more "diverse,", but it's the same shit with different flies.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Yet another irrelevant post. The race problem still exists.

[CALIGVLA]

After the obvious soul problem that this country has, which makes it produce millions of fanatics like you besides other millions of people with identity issues, America has a class problem.

And that's how the rich people won. Americans will NEVER unite themselves to fight for their interests as working class or destituted middle class. They always will fight for subjective issues based on resentment like "race" or "sexual orientation."

Being an American is being a loser. You deserve the fate that losers have.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA (Yawn) Race problem still here.

[CALIGVLA]

Your resentment is one proof of how multiethnic societies don't work. Separatism might be the only solution.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA Oh are you still babbling nonsense?

[CALIGVLA]

You want to see white people dead and you wanna convince me that multiethnic societies can work?

Lol. You can't have both, little girl.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA I made no statement to that effect. You’re being dishonest again. Race problem still exists.

[CALIGVLA]

You said that white people are a dying breed as the US is becoming more multicultural and it's a good thing.

Your words.

And I tell you that this shithole is only changing its flies.

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA I never mentioned race. You’re a flat out liar. I was referring to people who refuse to acknowledge racial inequality (like you). That antiquated thinking is a dying breed. I wished death on no one. Nice try. Race problem still exists.

[CALIGVLA]

If you weren't talking about white people in general when you said "dying breed," why did you reinforce that white people are becoming a minority as the US is becoming more multicultural almost in a threatening tone.

Do you think I care if the US is becoming more "multicultural" and with less white people?

On the contrary, I hate white people much more than you do. 😆

[Opinion Owner]

@CALIGVLA I said the country is becoming more multicultural and that’s a good thing. Living around and working with more people of different ethnicities will foster tolerance and inclusion. Case in point, there is less overt racism in mixed urban areas than in all white communities. It’s harder to hate someone when you aren’t segregated and you get to know them as people. There were no threats made or implied. You’re being dishonest again.

[CALIGVLA]

I'm not against multiculturalism. I'm in love with a woman who's not part of my culture, if anything I'm grateful for all the multiculturalism in this country.

On the other hand, it's clear that I don't like my own people. It's clear that I'm ashamed of being white.

[Rangers]

Can you tell me where 75% of African slaves were shipped to?

Hint, it's not the United States

Can you tell me the first terroritory in world history to abolish slavery and kicked off a trend of abolition all throughout the world?

Hint, it wasn't Haiti

[Anonymous]

I've never experienced that or viewed it that way. It's simply an acknowledgement and it's not for what people did hundreds of years ago. Or at least not just that. It's for what they continue to do. There are people still alive today who personally knew family members who were slaves. It wasn't that long ago. My own grandma was in an internment camp during WW2. Apartheid didn't end until 1964. The KKK is still active today and a former president had dinner with their leader a few weeks ago. Police disproportionately target minorities today. History books have been altered or discarded and literature from/for minorities are currently banned in the state of Florida.

It isn't a "hundreds of years ago" issue. It's a "still currently happening" issue. White people aren't being shamed for what their ancestors did. They're being asked to acknowledge what happened and to quit continuing to do it. And before anyone says to their self, "I never have!" Or "Most people don't!" Yes you have and yes they do. At the very least, you happily benefit from it while doing absolutely nothing to change it or even so much as acknowledge it. Which is equally as bad.

[RolandCuthbert]

Well "White" people should not be shamed for what occurred hundreds of years ago. Or even for the dumb stupid racist crap anonymous trolls who claim to be "White", post on the Internet.

By the way, there is no way to load your tweet, so figure out how the Internet works.

So the problem is that racist trolls want it both ways. They want to blame all "Black" folk for crimes, that are committed by other "Black" people.

They want to blame all Asians for issues with China.

They want to blame all Latinos for issues with illegal immigration.

They really think that racism can and should be controlled as a way to keep non-"Whites" in line. But once racism is out of the bag, it destroys everything. Because it is not based on logic, on fact, or common sense.

[Asker]

How is this question racist?

[Asker]

https://youtu.be/-eNkT1T8jl4

[RolandCuthbert]

Did I say the question was racist? Read my post.

You want it both ways. "White" people should never feel shame for beliefs they do not hold or for crimes they have not committed.

But that right belongs to everyone.

And the racist trolls here, convict people based on their race every single day.

[Asker]

Yes, read your comment again. You called me a racist troll.

[RolandCuthbert]

And who's fault is that?

If you are "White", you have to get together with other "White" people and figure this out.

I have been told that I was a member of a failed disgusting race of monkeys since I could remember. And I guess my pride came from, finding out all the amazing things folks who were members of my make-believe race had done. I grew up doing everything I could to distance myself from being "Black". Then I found out one of the greatest authors in French literature was "Black". I found that the Lone Ranger character was based on Bass Reeves. I found out that one of the greatest Russian poets was "Black". Then I started to feel pride because I knew I had been lied to.

I will tell you what I told you the "White" people at this discussion;

www.meetup.com/.../

That is has to be problematic for a young "White" person growing up to only understand the "White" identity when crazy racists are screaming "jews won't replace us". It has to be wholly destructive to only understand "Whiteness" when the Klan is walking the streets.

Because while racists think this is great, regular "White" folks are just regular human beings. And they look at that and feel shame.

So the task can't be for me or any non-"White" person to build this image. If you are "White" only you and other "White" folks can figure this out. Because the group identity does not include me. It only includes "White" people. So maybe "Whiteness" includes the history and bravery of Lincoln. Or maybe it doesn't. Maybe it includes the soldiers who fought to end slavery. Or not. Maybe it includes the brilliance of industrial age? Or the woman who was killed fighting for civil rights?

These are all your decisions.

[RolandCuthbert]

I cannot determine this for you, if you should feel pride in this stuff or not. I can only say I would feel pride. And I would reject any one trying to make me feel responsible for the insane crap racists have done or for the destructive behavior they engage in. I would look at all the positives that "Whites" have done in American history and claim that.



www.biography.com/activists/viola-gregg-liuzzo

[RolandCuthbert]

Well, yeah, I think you are a racist troll.

I didn't say your statement was racist!!!

WTF?

[JamesDiaz11]

This is the same stupid accusation of hypocrisy many women put forth: "well, if a girl puts out she's a slut, but if she doesn't she's a prude..." (No guy says that). White people not wanting to be criticized for biased narratives of the distant past is not the same as black people not wanting to be criticized for widespread behaviors committed TODAY.
First, the things people accuse black people of doing are extremely widespread. Violence, single-motherhood, crime, and embracing ghetto culture are blatantly done by a vast majority of black people. White people throwing jabs are in the minority- most white people just want to go about their lives, and are content to walk on egg shells ad infinitum.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 It absolutely is the same. In fact, it is worse. Because racists use racial terms selectively to prove "White" supremacy. Right now hundreds of thousands of people are dying in Ukraine. But that isn't a bunch of "White" people killing each other. The vast majority of "White" people are murdered, raped, or victimized by other "White" people, but somehow "Black" folks are the blame for crimes against them. Here you are talking about the vast majority of crimes are committed by "Blacks" which is a racist fruitcake lie. And you do this without any proof.

Racists believe in "Black" crime, without ever being victim of a crime committed by a "Black" person. It isn't based upon actual experience. It is based upon your insane fruitcake shifting definition of race, and your brown paper bag full of racist stereotypes.

Arabs technically are "White" people. Your crap theory of race defines them at being Caucasian. Well until Muslim extremism entered the picture. That meant they could no longer be "White". Because they were making "Whiteness" look bad.

www.latimes.com/.../

And racist freaks think they fooled everyone by redefining "Whiteness" on the fly.

And funny thing is racist freaks post racist filth here and on the internet every single day. And you pretend this is walking on eggshells..

Get that nonsense out of here.

You keep telling us you are the master fucking race. And we laugh that shit right off.

[JamesDiaz11]

Without any proof, huh? Click on the race tab: cde.ucr.cjis.gov/.../crime-trend

You're turning the conversation into some obfuscated, metaphysical conversation on what defines whiteness- let's just use the colloquial term, that both of us can see and understand. I don't muddy the argument by disclosing that American blacks are on average a quarter white...
A vast majority of violent crime is done by black people; the most common victim is white people.

Lastly, as fa as the master race, tell me who invented every bit of technology that makes the modern world run? Electricity, cars, planes, nuclear power, solar power, the internet... everything was created by us, and at the turn of the 20th century we owned the entire planet (not just an area the size of the Mongol empire); so, tell me who has the most credibility as the master race? Us, or people who produce mumble rap, and where their tallest members can jump six inches to put a ball in a basket... Einstein, John Stewart Mill, Oppenheimer, Tesla, Edison, Ford, Newton, all white men.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 Dude, figure out your own fruitcake argument. Figure out what makes your own fruitcake racist self better than me or other folks who are not "White". Is it genes? Or if its culture or whatever fuck nonsensical definition you can dream up for today.

Because tomorrow its gonna be a different definition.

Back before you were born race scientists concocted the lie that "White" people had "superior genes". Which is why they were better than everyone else. But once actual science got involved, it became apparent that this whole theory was a lie.

But the theory claimed that Arabs were "White". Well at least sometimes. It was great to claim things like the Persian empire, the Ottoman empire, etc. That's why Arabs walk around American society today confused AF. Here they are supposedly apart of the great "White" moral citizenry, only to get pulled out of line for security checks at the airport.

Yes I am going pull out that "Blacks" are 25% European on average. . . at least. Because it shows that racists are crazy. It kicks out the stupid argument that "Whites" and "Blacks" are somehow genetic groups.

Race is just a subjective term you use to feel good about your pathetic life. You are "White". So your life is great because there are more "Black" people who commit crime. Even as huge numbers of "White" people disagree with your fruitcake ideas. You can claim them. . . somehow as an example of a belief system that you don't even share with them.

Here you are talking about people who would be disgusted with you. Who would go to their graves denying any common ground with you. Why do racists claim, the "White" people who are disgusted with them?

It would be more understandable to claim someone like Larry Elder. He shares similar beliefs with you.

Einstein even said, racism is a "White" people's disease.



And the funny thing, you are ignorant you don't know half the dudes on your list are Jewish.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 So now for the crime argument. You racist freaks go to the FBI for crime stats. The FBI has changed the methods for tracking crime. Before 2019, I guess, you would get a report based on arrests.

They don't do that anymore. Now they have a system that tracks crimes reported. And since only 50%-60% of law enforcement reports back to the Federal government, they estimate. Either they look at previous years where they had data. Or they simply take some some community of similar size/demographic, then substitute the data.

We all knew the system was flawed before because arrest data reflect a department's priorities. Now it is even more flawed, because it has no follow up on anything. It doesn't even give you data on the incidents reported. And many times it can't, since there is no real incident.

Now there is another report that is way more accurate. But you have to subscribe to the FBI. You may just be desperate enough to prove "White" supremacy to buy a subscription. It is called the NIBRS.

www.fbi.gov/.../nibrs

I hope you do. The Feds can use the money.

For anyone reading along. Typically in a year, a little over 100,000 arrests are made for violence. A little over 30,000 "Black" folks are arrested for that violence.

That's the epidemic racist freaks are claiming.

As for crime overall, we are looking at about 2,7 million arrests nationwide per year. 676,000 of that are "Black" folks.

So about 30% of violent crime and the 25% of all crime, with the vast majority being drug related.

This is the incel freakazoid theory of "White" supremacy in a nutshell.

For anyone here, you can call the FBI. They have agents manning the phone lines. I have called them many times. But if they suspect you are a racist fruitcake, they may not talk to you for long.

[Asker]

@RolandCuthbert you forgot to mention black cities are over policed so the crime stats are inflated. They really don’t do that much crime. White people committ more crime.

[JamesDiaz11]

Nothing you said in the first response amounted to an argument- you again simply tried to obfuscate the point beyond all coherence.
You said there was no factual basis to black people committing most violent crimes, I provided evidence. But instead of admitting that it's almost assuredly correct, you attack the method of obtaining stats... In an administration run by flaming Liberals. That's a pretty weak stance. Or are you arguing to ignorance? "Well, we can't possibly know what the true stats are," as if the ones we possess don't show huge disparities.
Herpes: www.cdc.gov/.../hsv2pressrelease.pdf
SAT scores: https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=171
IQ/ Cranial dif: www.sciencedirect.com/.../S016028960200137X

Now, get away from your personal bias, or need to be explain how all the stats show that I'm right. How can you objectively look at all of this and tell me that your people are the absolute bottom of the barrel?

[JamesDiaz11]

I pointed to violent crime and that's a pretty weak argument, believing that because policing is high that high crime results from this... "well, when you enforce laws, that's making more criminals..." sure...

[RolandCuthbert]

But I kind of talked about about that a little bit. The issue is we keep pretending that racists have a legitimate point by using a nonsensical term like "commission of crime". There is no such thing as a commission of crime report. There are arrest reports and there are guestimates on complaints, the filing of charges, claims, etc.

The arrest report at least documents the actual charge, arrest and conviction. The issue is arrest reports reflect a department's priorities. And they prosecute drug crimes at a higher rate in "Black" communities. They always have.

And racists blame Biden for the fentanyl epidemic among "White" folks.

It is incredible.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11
Of course it is a response. Just because you are a dull anti-science, anti-intellectual brain dead racist does not matter.

There is no factual basis for the nonsensical lie that "Blacks" commit more crime. As for violence, well there is some evidence that the type of crime committed by "Blacks" is more violent. It is a logical conclusion since "Black" folks are generally poorer.

Dude, you didn't provide on shred of evidence. I provided evidence. You provided a link to the FBI. You don't even understand the reporting the FBI does. You have never talked with FBI agent.

The problem is you want me to be as racist as you. You are not concerned about tracking racial crimes. You are only concerned with proving that your pitiful life means something because you have "White" skin. That's why you claim all these brilliant folks who have mocked and still do mock you and your insane cult. You even pretend that Einstein was "White". Ignorant fool. . his freaking name is Einstein!!!

Here you are quoting stats on herpes. Freaking herpes!!! As though this is some crime. Dude, where are your stats on child rape, sexual assault and molestation? And the thing is, even with the current stats, we know it is ridiculously underreported.

Where are your stats on drug crime? On financial crimes?

You only do the reporting that makes pathetic racist incels feel good. And thing it is you that is the bottom of the barrel. You and your cult are malignant, ignorant, toxic, nasty, dumb, and contribute nothing to society.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 Dude, you don't even understand the words I typed. You are just a racist incel chasing your freaking tail.

And the point of this thread is why do "White" people feel shame.

They want to feel pride when thinking of Rod Serling, Viola Luizzo, Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, etc.

The problem is that they feel the only time they can explicitly think of "Whiteness" is when an insane crazy racist freak is screaming about "White" supremacy.

And that creates the shame. Because they don't share any of your crazy extremist views. Its like how Muslims are ashamed of the Taliban.

[JamesDiaz11]

I don't want to turn this into an argument from authority, but I'm far more educated than you are- across the board... (this is irrelevant) My first degree was in criminology (followed by an MBA, an MA in Political Science, and currently completing a PhD in Public Policy), that's why I turn toward the UCR and NCVS, both of which show it isn't a "lie" that blacks commit more violent crimes than everyone else, including the group that's 5 times larger, and proportionally more crimes by far. That's a factual basis, or do I need to explain what a factual basis is to you? The moment you turned to insults showed your hand, and your "argument" lacks all substance. I don't blame you for that, your IQ likely doesn't permit you do do much more than babble.

I then explained why white people should alternatively feel pride, as opposed to shame that YOUR ancestors were so weak they got passed from the Arabs/ other African Tribes to use as free labor. Speaking of, you probably don't even know the African slaves sent to the Middle-East bc they were systematically castrated, which is why they've since died out?

Facts are insane now, huh?

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 Man, get out of here with that. My first degree. . .

Your first degree is in racism 101. You have an imaginary PH. D. You are here hiding on the Internet, posting anonymously because you know what will happen if people find out who you are.

You will lose your job down at the car wash.

So this is how ignorant you are. These two reports, the UCR and the NCVS, neither one is a commission of crime report. Neither report is currently used in tracking crime. So now the lie, the racist nonsense you posted is complete. You are using data/reports that ceased to exist since 2019.

Now, I will turn to what these reports used to represent. The Uniformed Crime Report was a report of arrests. It pulled data from as many as 60% of law enforcement agencies around the country. The problem was that as the years went by less and less departments reported to the Feds. The report actually is about arrest trends from some departments. It was never about the commission of crime.

The National Crime and Victimization SURVEY. . . that's right, you are claiming that a survey is an indicator of crime committed. It was a survey sent out to about 144,000 households. It was never a report that documented one single actual incident of crime.

That was the tool the Department of Justice used for a long time.

For anyone doubting me, here is a link to the NCVS. It is a survey. It does not involve any law enforcement at all.

https://bjs.ojp.gov/programs/ncvs

So you don't have facts. You have lies and fruitcake racist insanity. How does a guy with a degree in criminology not know;

1. What the UCR and NCVS represent.

2. And that they are no longer used by the DOJ.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 As for your other racist nonsense, those slaves who came from Africa, kicked racist ass along with the best of "White" American Culture.

And you bitches have been whining ever since.

We don't care dude. Cry, whine, kick your dog. Your country is gone. Your traitorous confederacy was burned to the ground. And we will destroy its memory.

:D

[JamesDiaz11]

Avoiding the facts... Here's a tip from someone who is educated to someone who is not: if what you say cannot be made succinct, you either don't understand it very well, or you don't have a coherent point (you notice how you needed 3-4 responses per my one?).

The fact that you're mad, throwing around immature insults that don't affect me in the slightest, illustrates how in your feelings you are on this. I understand why, of course. If I belonged to an inferior people I'd want to use shame, obfuscation tactics, and insults to boost my own self-confidence- it doesn't win the argument, but who cares? It doesn't change the FACT that every bit of evidence available shows your people are dumb, violent, and good for nothing but the most rudimentary of labor. You were far better off under our leadership. Every black country worked better under white leadership; every black community thrived better under white leadership (you were healthier, happier, etc.).

Better luck next time.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 Dude, you make up any nonsensical rules you wish. Facts are facts. I kicked your ass over the UCR and NCVS. You didn't even know what the reports were about. You didn't even know the FBI no longer uses or collects data for the UCR. Then you proceeded to use the two platforms in ways they were never intended for.

You quoted arrest stats as a "commission of crime report". Then worse you used the results of a freaking survey.

A survey!

LOLx10!!!

But that's what racists are, some ignorant dumb, brain dead backwards freaks. You are the living example of what racism is the most backwards toxic, fruitcake belief system in history.

So don't tell anyone at the car wash you work at lackey. They might fire you for infecting staff with so much stupid.

[JamesDiaz11]

You sound like a woman- completely loses an argument, doubts stats, then runs away like you won. You know who won ;)
Until next time- I'll be happy to bury you again.

[RolandCuthbert]

@JamesDiaz11 Haha! You lost the argument freak. The NCVS is a freaking survey.

You claimed it talked about the commission of crime.

Go back to the car wash.

And make sure you get my windshield, if you want that extra dollar!!!

Wait. . . you talk about women. You must not have one!

[bayoubob]

What we do know is Indigenous people, aka Indians warred with each other. They did. It's kind of the same thing we did upon them. Black people in Africa also were slave merchants. White people did not show up in Africa and offer them sandwiches to enter their ships. Blacks in Africa sold them to whites. At the same time, it's so weird? Why? Because we use animals to be slaves. Why is it okay to use oxen, horses, cows, etc. to do things we can't do. I argue that human slavery isn't right. But shouldn't it be right?

[bayoubob]

The crazy thing is visiting South America, or anywhere that has monkeys. Should we eat them? That makes us what? Cannibals?

[Heterosketero]

My opinion on this is well informed, personally related and unwelcome by every race and ethnicity. In 2023, I will knock out anyone who calls me a racist without proof. Because its rude.

Im racist, look at who just called me racist, your a saint? We all are going to end up on the Vaticans doorstep sooner or later, getting what we are all due.

Racism isn't shit, focus on classism. Then you will see, our enemy is common.

Told you, my opinion is not welcome. The truth seldom is. And I get where you are at, Id be pissed too.

[loveslongnails]

Society is shaming white people? Huh? Depending on where you live, "society" IS WHITE PEOPLE !! LOL. I'm white but I feel no personal shame for what George Washington did. He was a fucktard. I feel sad that so many people don't KNOW the things he did, and sad that history books portray him as some wonderful dude. I feel sad that the US government, which was run by white men, did all kinds of horrible shit.

But what I'm MOST said about, is often it gets repeated today - by white people, or any color. If I'm ashamed of anything, it's not just white people, it's human stupidity as a whole.

[Asker]

What about slavery?

[loveslongnails]

Why should I personally feel ashamed about slavery just because I'm white? I didn't personally enslave anyone, and I think the whole WORLD should be outraged by it, but they're not, and so it continues. Blacks in Africa sold their own people into slavery too - are they ashamed?

[notwoke]

its a giant farce to cover up black failure caused inherent differences in races

It was northern whites who freed the salves that were sold by blacks.

Every once safe and prosperous white town turned into a dirty dangerous war zone once diversity moved in. The people who bought homes and built a life there that was ruined should be compensated for the impact to their lives caused by the government facilitating this.

Interracial crime is over 80% black on white - Whites need to be compensated

Interracial rape is 99% black on white. Where are the feminists?

Trillions have been spent on affirmative action, black only scholarships, and disproportionate levels of welfare per capita all while blacks have on average paid very little in taxes. Whites need to be compensated.

[notwoke]

besides, salves were safer and less likely to be murdered than blacks that live in Chicago in 2023

[Anonymous]

The persons of colour & white savours who are attacking white people for the assumed crimes of their ancestors should do some research and find out what really happened and is still going on today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NoWIZv96KUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWOlZeFhUzo

[FunkyMonkee]

it's stupid, it's pointless and, like those that want that money so badly, it's not gonna work!
Besides, in the first place, I should get that money first because my white ancestors were slaves a LONG time before them and FOR a much longer time than they were! Secondly,. if they want that money, they should get it from the very people that sold their ancestors into slavery: Africans!!

[tfan1]

Try to shame me in real life face to face and you will see flashing blue lights in your eyes. Only people I apologize to is my wife and family and to anyone one who I Personally have made a mistake with in understanding etc. But I will not be shamed for what happened that’s beyond my control. Like jb books said in the shootist -

“I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.”

[Snakeyes7]

I'm just going to live my life. If any racist moron decides to get in my face about how my race is the cause of all the world's problems, I'll just tell to go fuck themselves because that has nothing to do with me.

It's not my fault that those idiots are too stupid to figure out that race isn't the same thing as a hive mind.

[BeMuse]

"Society" huh? Well I think your "society" of communists satanists are on the losing end of a war. It's great. It provides daily amusement.

[BeMuse]

Your "society" are so panicked, they're trying to normalize spraying dead baby genitals on their face before all the dirt comes out... They will not be able to walk down the street.

[BeMuse]

There's going to be some pitchforks and flaming torches in your future...

[inhua]

historically every race is guilty of some crime one way or another. they have been victims too but mostly at the hands of those of their own race.

[purplepoppy]

The only people who seem to notice white shaming are the far right. I certainly don't feel people trying to shame me.

[Akam93]

That was a long time ago. We understand what we did was wrong. Hence is why we went to war for it. And the north won.

[Asker]

Do you feel bad for slavery

[Akam93]

Yes very bad.

[Asker]

Do you feel responsible

[Akam93]

Well I live in the north so no. If anyone feels responsible the south is more responsible.

[Rangers]

The "north" was just as guilty and the methods they used to abolish it were just as bad, if not worse than slavery itself

[genericname85]

well it's racist. but i also think: if you're not ashamed of who you are. then no ammount of shaming can fuck you up.

[CuriousMufuxka]

Just quit talking about it. We the people!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GeixtYS-P3s

[CALIGVLA]

People deserve what they put up with. That's all.

[DarkLegacy]

It is pathetic, childish and petty. The same with feminism

[SmokinAces2000]

I can’t have a valid opinion on something that doesn’t exist

[AvacodoToast]

Seems crazy to me.