Since presidents love war, should the Constitution be amended to remove the president as commander in chief and turn the military over to the states?

[Adaeva]

[Anonymous]

The constitution does say that, very clearly.

You are to have no standing armies and internal and external threats to your democracy are to be dealt with by an organised milita raised and equipped by each state, all of whom are allied and beholden to the others.

But none of you understand nor give a fuck about your constutition you just like the part where you wave flags.

[Summeroflove]

Then we have Biden and all his wars. Because most president have been pieces of shit. Trump 2024!!!



I think you really have a bright future. Can’t wait to see you in congress

[loveslongnails]

You live in the USA, Adaeva, correct? Perhaps you've noticed it's a drug and industrial military complex?
* The USA makes and exports more guns than any other country.
* Five of the top six weapons manufacturers in the world are US companies, including #1, Lockheed Martin, #2 Boeing and #3 Raytheon
* Pharmaceuticals "exports" are an $80 billion dollar industry, and that's only the drugs MADE here in the USA. That doesn't include US company owned plants making drugs in other countries.

Your meme is adorable in its attempt to pin wars on specific Presidents, some of whom deserve it, but it's a strawman. As WindAtMyBack said, not only can the President NOT declare war, but the real point is, it's one of the USA's top exports. Funny though, when you research it, you won't find "weapons or guns or tanks or missiles" listed as a top export. You'll find "machinery, computers, electrical machinery", and other categories to throw them into.

So to answer, turning the military over to the states is a ridiculously silly idea, but thanks for writing :)

[WindAtMyBack]

The US president doesn't have the authority to declare war. Only Congress can do that. The only thing a president can do without Congressional approval is when there is an immediate threat that needs to be addressed, when there is no time to consult Congress. In that case the president still needs to inform Congress, give regular updates, and only do it very short term.

For everything else, only Congress can do it. This was basically the result of the war in Vietnam. The War Powers Act clarified what was already in the Constitution. The Constitution clearly states that Congress declares war, not the president. It clarifies that ongoing undeclared wars like Vietnam should not bypass the intention of the Constitution.

[DWornock]

That would certainly be a huge improvement. Presidents just get us into needless and expensive wars. In the last 200 years the USA has never been threatened nor attacked unless the USA first committed war crimes against the country. Both Germany and Japan did everything they could to keep the USA out of WW1 and WW2 but President Wilson and FDR wanted us into those wars and committed war crimes such as false flag operations to get us into those wars. WW2 would have never occurred if we had stayed out of WW1

FDR put a blockade on Japan preventing them from getting oil and then ignored every diplomatic attempt from Japan. Furthermore, he knew about the upcoming attack on Hawaii and could have prevented it. He even prevented our military from defending against it.

[KostasKouvalis]

That wouldn't work, because then only residents of that state would need to be sent to fight. That would never work. Technically, only Congress is allowed to declare war, but I think we should Congressional approval to end send troops.

I didn't even know we had some of those wars. You forgot Biden and Ukraine by the way.

[abc3643]

GOD NO!

That's EXACTLY...

W

H

Y

we now live in a federation and not a confederation!

HISTORY HAS SHOWN
AGAIN AND AGAIN
HOW CONFEDERATIONS
POINT OUT THE FOLLY OF MEN.

[abc3643]

Let's look at the Preamble to the US Constitution and parse it:

We the People of the United States,
in Order to form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,

>>>>> insure domestic Tranquility, <<<<<

=====================================
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>>>>> provide for the common defence, <<<<<
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promote the general Welfare, and
secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.''

====================
The Federal Government of the United States under the US Constitution was created to embody the concept of...

UNITED WE STAND

CONFEDERATIONS ARE NOT UNITED.
THIS IS WHY THEY FAIL.
ALWAYS.

This is why the Founding Fathers got rid of the Articles of Confederation which lasted only 8 years and replaced them with a federal national government under the US Constitution which has lasted 234 years and counting.

[abc3643]

"the military over to the states"

Sure.

But, while you're at at, learn Mandarin because that will then quickly become the official national language.

[exitseven]

No, The US needs a united military. Having 50 separate entities will weaken our defense and it will be very inefficient. In case of a national emergency we need somebody who can quickly mobilize the military. That is the role of president.

[FunkyMonkee]

Kennedy didn't take us to war, Nixon got us out of that war, Ford didn't take us to war, Carter didn't take us to war, Reagan didn't and Trump was just about to hand us world peace on a silver platter!

[Dargil]

I do not. We just need better leaders. Trump does not belong on that list. Which endless war did he start?

[Adaeva]

One of first things that war mongering criminal did was on the morning of 7 April 2017, he ordered the launching of 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea into Syria, aimed at Shayrat Airbase controlled by the Syrian government.

[Dargil]

I didn't say he was a coward. He has genuine testicles. Syria was a surgical operation like destruction of ISIS and terminating Soleimani. You may not like them but they were needed.

[MuskratLove]

Presidents don't like war, the puppeteers pulling their strings, do. Trump wasn't a puppet, and that's why the left hated him.

[Soteris]

That is an even worse idea. The people who run the states are the same kind of people who run the country, just less regulated and more prone to crazy. If you think the president is uncontrollable then I got bad news for you...

[Adaeva]

Obviously, like most Americans, you love war and I'm powerless to do anything about that.

[Soteris]

Eeew. Dont call me an American. I take offense to that.

[Adaeva]

Then you can't be all bad.

[Soteris]

But American politicians sure as hell can try to be. Just because you go down to a state level does not mean things improve.

[OddBeMe]

Funny you didn’t include Carter. Oh the corn farmer never made war.

But yes, rescind the war powers act and let congress have more say.

[gorydetails]

The constitution should be followed so that congress is the only body that can declare war.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Not at all.

[NostalgiaSenpi]

You do realize that the president can't declare war, Congress does. President gets emergency powers, but only in crisis and still answers to Congress. Congress consists of representatives of each state and as such already represent their will.