Is America only for people with papers?

[OddBeMe]

Sounds Nazi-like…fckin right wingers.

PAPERS, PLEASE…HERR ALIEN

Yes, papers only! Citizenship papers

No, fck those Nazis.

[Anonymous]

Plausibly, overpopulation is a real issue in the US

But the liberals will move more in for their next genocide but first they need their children for the party conferences but once they are too damaged to reproduce then come the mass graves ala Europe 80 years ago

[WindAtMyBack]

You gotta be legal if that's what you mean. Just like every other country, except the US is a hell of a lot looser in it's laws than most places. Most places are a lot harder to get into.

If people were allowed to cross the border with no restrictions, it wouldn't be long before it got so bad that nobody wanted to come any more.

[Anonymous]

You clearly haven’t been to Europe go tell a Serbian are you Columbian? Just assuming ! you will have a spit in your face in seconds

[OddBeMe]

I have been to Europe and thankfully driven cross many many open borders without needing “papers”. Though I understand passport controls and IDs just not a nationalistic, “beat up everyone without” kind of feeling.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

You may call me a "Nazi" if that pleases you. ;)

[OddBeMe]

Nazi beast. That felt really good. Obviously it’s an emphasis, which is also historically comparative.

But I don’t even think the worst person on this page is a Nazi. Just brainwashed anti illegals. The only difference is paperwork.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

@OddBeMe
"That felt really good."
Happy for 'ya!
;)

[OddBeMe]

I call my wife that who’s Paraguayan and half German. That Nazi beast… great sex.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Lol. :D Yeah!

[OddBeMe]

Don’t tell anyone about our Nazi costumes ok? It’s mostly for sex. Mostly.

[Friendlybro79]

It's hard for some people to understand that non whites aren't inherently evil, lazy, or shit. I wonder how well these folks would do if roles were reversed and they needed to seek asylum. I'm sure they're all so educated and aware of what to do and how to do it.

[exitseven]

Biden opened the border so millions of freeloaders have streamed into the country and are living large at the taxpayer's expense. Billions for illegals but our own citizens go homeless and veterans live in poverty. So I guess America is for everyone but the taxpayers.

[Anonymous]

There’s nothing nazi at all about wanting to maintain the white majority because Japanese do the same thing in Japan. Everyone practices this. We have to have a national identity. It isn’t about race but about culture. Mexicans come in and don’t know English. They steal American jobs. They are also bringing in drugs and crime.

[OddBeMe]

I’m sure there are right wing nationalists in japan. Doesn’t mean it’s right.

[Still-alive]

"There’s nothing nazi at all about wanting to maintain the white majority"

yes there certainly is... literally the definition in fact. 'white replacement' is a myth.

[OddBeMe]

@Still-alive (whispers) I was trying to avoid the Nazi references…even tho it’s all over my Q. ROFL

[Anonymous]

Nazism, child brides, insane lack of gun laws. What’s next?

[Anonymous]

America probably spends more money than anyone else in the world helping people without papers.

[OddBeMe]

You might be right.

[Leopard23]

Why cam other countries have immigration control including left wing Canada but not America?

[OddBeMe]

They do. Not nearly as stringent. They’re not like Ellis island when our ancestors came over with nothing. But it’s literally next to impossible without money to legally immigrate. As the Trumps.

[Leopard23]

In the Ellis island days we needed people

[OddBeMe]

Oh, so now fck em huh? You don’t think immigration still helps economies?

[OddBeMe]

Yeah…

[Leopard23]

Controlled immigration does. Unless you are swimming in opportunity and not looking to undercut the wages of citizens

[OddBeMe]

Actually illegal immigration does too.
research.newamericaneconomy.org/.../

[Leopard23]

Thing about these studies they are made to confirm whatever the organisation wants them to confirm.

[Dargil]

America is only for citizens, permanent residents and visa'd guest workers. If you want to be here, do it legally.

[OddBeMe]

Why is that such a dividing line? The dangers are elsewhere…

[Dargil]

Who will you allow to sleep in your house and eat from your fridge? anyone who walks in?

[OddBeMe]

Why is that a danger? Immigrants do less crime including B and E’s…

[Dargil]

There's no danger. They just don't belong here like that intruder in your house.

[OddBeMe]

And intruder is dangerous. Immigrants don’t commit nearly as much crime as citizens.

So we’re back to paperwork. The only difference.

[Dargil]

Along with flooding the infrastructure. And there's nothing wrong with paperwork. Why not step up and rid Mexico of the cartels and build a better nation?

[OddBeMe]

Like we tried in Iraq?

[Dargil]

Like we did with ISIS.

[OddBeMe]

We? Or Iran? Whom we promptly attacked after?

[Dargil]

We did.

[Berethor]

You want US to turn into a shithole country don't you? those illegals should be stopped.

[OddBeMe]

Why? Shithole countries are made by their citizens.

[Berethor]

Exactly and the citizens who made US great are getting less and less, white citizens.

en.wikipedia.org/.../White_Americans

[OddBeMe]

And yet we keep living in the best of all possible times. When you factor in lifespans, family wealth etc, stats say it’s never been better. Still not great. But always better than yesterday.

But maybe less white is working. Especially in Stem research lol

[Anonymous]

Without borders you don't have a country at all, you just have a land which will invariably be pillaged by people acting as locust with no regard to the long term consequences of their actions.

[OddBeMe]

No you do, and I’m not saying borders disappear. Ellis island handed out papers like morning donuts.

[Opinion Owner]

@oddbeme
Do you have a point everyone hands out papers like nothing. What they did was try and verify the people coming were not bring more problems.

[OddBeMe]

And honestly I have no problem with that. But since I’m a statistics guy…. you’re looking at the wrong community for crime buddy.

[genericname85]

it's "national socialists". so no. nationalism is not enough to be a nazi. nothing wrong with nationalism in my opinion.

[OddBeMe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZa6BefQCLw

[genericname85]

Yeah. Typical liberal argument. If someone disagrees they must be stupid. Live the delusion. More power to you :D

[OddBeMe]

Even better from a mexican actor.

Nationalism to patriotism is what rape is to lust.

[genericname85]

i see nothing wrong with nationalism and patriotism. bot as everyhting it has a dark side to it.

[OddBeMe]

Nationalism is patriotism at the detriment of all not in your country.

[genericname85]

as all things, nationalism is a spectrum. certain nationalistic things are good and necessary for a country. for example having a border and a military to enforce it. but when you start discriminating or killing people who aren't part of your nation, that's when it becomes a problem.

[Brittanyroseee]

Ok, go to another country ILLEGALLY and get shot or jailed for 30 years lol.

[gorydetails]

Wait, you’re the guy who wants gun registrations, right?

[Part2603]

Oh!!! SNAP!!!

[OddBeMe]

Oh snap! Yeah somehow a more simplistic process for immigration and more gun registration is contradictory.

[Part2603]

Presumably, you want people who want guns to show their papers whenever they want to exercise their freedoms.

Your open border policy where everybody looks the other way and refuses to enforce the laws we already have on the books doesn't gel with your anti freedom, anti right to bear arms dystopia.

How's that gonna work exactly? What exactly is gonna be your objection to local Sheriffs creating "gun sanctuary cities" and just refusing to card anybody carrying an AR-15?

[OddBeMe]

@Part2603 people with dangerous items (cars, guns) should have training. Call it paperwork but it’s not unnecessary paperwork

Migrants seeking a new life for their family from cartels? Yeah, no so big on the papers…

[Part2603]

No, but answer my question. What is your objection to Sheriffs creating "gun sanctuary" cities?

[OddBeMe]

@Part2603 I’ve never heard of that. I imagine it’s a right wing masturbation fantasy to immigration sanctuary. You guns rights guys always like to play the victim.

[Part2603]

Answer the question. abc7chicago.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

@Part2603 I am totally on Chicago’s side. Not sure what question you want answered. In your mind that may sound like I’m a hypocrite. Fine,

But showing papers for gun registration and helping illegal immigrants not die isn’t the same thing. Sorry you can’t see the difference

[Part2603]

Of course these are different issues. I'm just hoping to point out the hypocrisy of the average leftist that wants to work through the system and have laws and obey, ONLY WHEN IT AGREES WITH THEM, and then if it doesn't, well fuck having laws and shit, because that's white supremacist and racist, so actually it's our duty to not obey the law.

You're right, the sane discussion to be had here is "What suitable regulations and paperwork needs to exist to protect people?" You can hold the (stupid) opinion that people should need a permit to buy a gun, but not to cross the border, but go ahead and argue your case.

Either way, YES, America should only be for people with papers. Otherwise an illegal alien can just buy a gun without paperwork.

[OddBeMe]

@Part2603 sure and right wingers love life and fetuses yet love killing inmates. Honestly we’re all hypocrits somehow. But like MLK’s peaceful lawbreaking, we make progress by making a point. A piece of paper for legal versus illegal immigrants shouldn’t take 7 years and cost millions of dollars. Especially when immigrants do nothing but help economies.

My landscaper does more for this country than Melania Trump. For damn sure.

[gorydetails]

I am sure you are happy you found a brown person to do your menial tasks

[Part2603]

Lol at Odd not addressing my point.

Whether or not your landscaper provides a valuable service (to you personally, fuck anybody else who is negatively affected, right?) is irrelevant to your question "Is America only for people without papers?".

You seem to tacitly concede the point, when you say that "a piece of paper...(some nonsense here about giving illegals papers, thereby contradicting the very idea and creating a "legal illegal") shouldn't take seven years...

Ok. Work to "reform" the policy but until then, everybody has to obey the law right?

Repeat after me: America is only for people with papers because nobody is above the law; doesn't matter how marginalized or oppressed they are. You agree with this statement, correct?

[OddBeMe]

@Part2603 I remember reading MLK saying, “Obey all the racist laws until they’re changed.”

Uh no…

[Part2603]

Ok. So you're a communist. The law only applies provided that I deem it not "racist". We all know how that turns out.

Question: Do University anti plagiarism rules not apply to poor oppressed minorities like Martin Luther King Jr? Is expecting people to write their own dissertations "racist"?

[msc545]

It kind of is only for people with papers the fascists and the Nazis have managed to completely demonize anybody that anybody who doesn't have them if they are not also White

[Anonymous]

You mean citizens who were born here or whom immigrated LEGALLY?

Yes.

[OddBeMe]

Nazi.

[Opinion Owner]

Fascist cuck.

[OddBeMe]

Seriously tho, your violent divide between legal and “illegal” is worrying as no one asked that of your great grandparents at Ellis island. We gave them papers.

And if fleeing a fallen country like Mexico (where cartels hand kidnappers over instead of the police) isn’t a refugee like your grandparents, I’m not sure where you got so brainwashed.

[Opinion Owner]

Ooh! That one touched a nerve! Lol

[OddBeMe]

Mkay, no counter point I guess. Just emotion for illegals. I hope you’re able to get rid of that hatred. It’s misguided.

[Opinion Owner]

What counter point is needed? You want to immigrate some place DO IT LEGALLY.

Why is the rule of law so fucking meaningless to you?

Oh that’s right. Because you like to whine and it goes against your politics. 🙄

[gorydetails]

Weren't the folks arriving at Ellis Island coming here legally?

[Opinion Owner]

@gorydetails Indeed they did. They all arrived to a single, government institution where they were questioned, assessed for any infectious diseases, and data compiled on them into registered federal documents.

This is a far cry from the Liberal’s desire to just “wave on through” anyone. Because “no person is illegal.” 🙄. Please. Spare me.

[gorydetails]

At some point, you'd think @OddBeMe would gain some self-awareness of how stupid his lies and gaslighting are... but I don't think we'll get to that place.

[OddBeMe]

We made too stringent to do it legally. If your great grandparents were fleeing cartels and juntas they wouldn’t have the time or money to wait 7 years and go through the system.

[OddBeMe]

I don’t understand the disdain. The problems were facing aren’t coming from illegal immigrants.

[ChefPapiChulo]

Because they believe in replacement theory lol.

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe then maybe you dems should have changed immigration laws when you had both houses of congress. Seems like that could have been easy to do. But then making it easier to immigrate legally isn’t important when you want the illegals for cheap labor.

[gorydetails]

@ChefPapiChulo Nobody had better replace you, you sexy bitch.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@gorydetails people who are illegal do the work no one wants to.

[OddBeMe]

@ChefPapiChulo and do less crime and still pay sales taxes.

[gorydetails]

@ChefPapiChulo like date you?

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe not all states record immigration status when dealing with criminals, so the true rate is impossible to know. I wasn’t aware sales taxes were the only taxes there were. I need to talk to my employer about all the bullshit being taken out of my check.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@gorydetails you have a bias against immigrants so how reliable can your argument be? You must learn what ethos means.

[gorydetails]

@ChefPapiChulo And you like jacking off underage boys. See how easy it is to make unfounded statements?

[OddBeMe]

@gorydetails ok…pretty sure we are. Unless illegal immigrants are so good they don’t get caught…

[gorydetails]

@OddBeMe prove it, then.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@gorydetails that only hurts your argument lol.

[gorydetails]

@ChefPapiChulo You don’t have an argument buddy. Stick to the foodie and narcissist boards, you’re out of your league mentally, here.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@gorydetails im the only one with an education lol.

[gorydetails]

@ChefPapiChulo clown college doesn’t count.

[ChefPapiChulo]

@gorydetails do u know what ethos is?

[gorydetails]

@ChefPapiChulo was that the word of the day on your calendar today?

[ChefPapiChulo]

@gorydetails lol

[notwoke]

how many have you gone out of your way to support in any way?

[OddBeMe]

More than most probably.

[notwoke]

what did you do for an illegal immigrant exactly? How much of your money did you spend?

[OddBeMe]

I move immigrants into their apartments and strangely, I sometimes have to tell females how to use feminine products. Their file will say it needs to be explained.

I hope I got it right.

[notwoke]

pls start sending them back. The same people that don't know how to use a tampon will need to be supported their entire life, by the taxpayer and instead our government being able to care for the millions of needy we already have

[OddBeMe]

I would rather send you and people who think like you. Those I help work harder than either of us do.

[CaptainSmartass]

Yep. Only Russia and China should be for illegals.

Simples...

[Juxtapose]

I like functional borders, that's not extreme.

[Anonymous]

Maybe those without papers should be allowed to move to leftist sanctuaries like Martha's Vineyard.

[OddBeMe]

Fine. Immigration boosts economies.

[Opinion Owner]

My replie never mentioned economics, one way or the other, but perhaps you should tell it to the folks who lives there and compares immigrants to trash
www.independentsentinel.com/.../

[OddBeMe]

What is your vitriol from? Seriously. Illegal immigrants are literally without paperwork. But they still boost economies. Can’t deny it.

[Opinion Owner]

I think imigrants should immigrate legaly. I have no particular vitrol, and I'm not denying anything, just suggesting that the illegals can move to leftists sanctuaries and you can tell the people who live there and compare immigrants to trash that they boost their economy

[OddBeMe]

Right wingers used to say, obey the Jim Crow laws until it changes. MLK said fck that.

[LazerBean]

Most countries are lmao

[OddBeMe]

Ehh not so hard up on it.

[Adaeva]

It is headed in that direction.

[jshm2]

Most Amercians don't even have papers!

[jimmy2]

Lol right wingers lol

[NostalgiaSenpi]

Having actual borders is not Nazism.