Do you know about the charges against Trump?

[Juxtapose]

Well here is 1 minute of it being explained in an actually honest manner.

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxfDiQwSRyRPprUBxT-SN4Lh28H7KQ-LJ8?si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE

Updates

2 mo

I don't think you guys want the precident of arresting politicians for "funny bookkeeping" to be the norm when it basically amounts to a misdemeanor.

[Msputiton]

Not honest. Bias.

I'm fine with the politicians in this country getting a slap of reality that they aren't untouchable.

Clean house get rid of the these scandal spreading egotistical monsters from both parties ruining our country by spreading hate, and false information so they can divide our country.

We have successfully followed the plan. Make both sides so angry at each other that our voters will defend every illegal thing we do, just because they hate the other party.

The American voters have proven that we as a country aren't free, just puppets that follow everything our politicians, and the news tell them to believe in.

There is a reason other countries mock us as a country.

It ain't because they jealous of us. It's because we make fools of ourselves every single day, with this fake wars we have with

trump, vs biden

Democrates vs Republicans.

Woke vs non woke

False information from both sides daily thrown out to keep us distracted by fighting eachother over BS because they are really working together robbing and stripping us of our funds, rights, morals, and anything else they want by these corrupt politicians that we fight for each day.

Show you how bad we have become trump was president.(he got elected because our political system was so horrible, we were desperate for a change)

Biden is president (trump destroyed this country with vial hate that people just wanted the termoil to end) biden was so incompetent this was the only way he would ever be president. And they knew we were such a brainwashed country they could throw any candidate out there and we vote for him

And most likely trump or biden will be president again.(why because everyone is still going tell us who to vote for and we will no matter what scandal, or dirty actions they have done)

Yup the 2 biggest clowns going at round 2.

Republicans scream democrats are ruining this country. Democrats scream Republicans are ruining this country, and both are right, because neither voters have the guts to call out their political leaders for doing wrong

[Juxtapose]

You don't realize history is happening right before your eyes, do you?

[Redcupsolo]

How did Biden win the primary against candidates who could read?

[Msputiton]

I know we need change. We need these politicians to be held accountable, and they all need to get humbled, and i know the pettiness of our politicians will lead to them doing the same actions the kids in my kindergarten class do.
Which is "you did something to me, so now i will do something to you."
They are all grown men with them maturity of kindergarteners.

We need something huge to happen to fix our completely failed political system. Because the voters ain't got the courage to do it.

[Msputiton]

@Redcupsolo this was done purposely the guy wanted to be president and they gave him scrubs to run against, knowing it was the only chance he would ever have of winning

[Redcupsolo]

Tulsi Gabbard is not a scrub, she's brilliant. And she left the Democrat party, because she knows it's a shit show. Biden did not win the primary, nor did he win the general. The fix is in, and voting is a thing of the past. Our voting system is as legit as Russia's.

[Msputiton]

@Redcupsolo *pats head* it's okay.

[Redcupsolo]

Likewise. Orange man bad.

[Juxtapose]

Heeeey. Where's my head pats?

[Uannoyme]

Years of investigation and taxpayer money wasted on this political witch hunt for this? Do they not realize just how desperate this looks? Do they really want to open this can of worms for this?

[Redcupsolo]

And they let Hillary slide.

[Uannoyme]

@Redcupsolo Exactly!

[Redcupsolo]

My question about Trump was just removed by staff. They are corrupt as fuck.

[Uannoyme]

@Redcupsolo not really surprising.

[BCA6010]

It's obviously a distraction/publicity stunt. If they actually do it, it's going to backfire on them, horribly, especially while nothing is done to politicians who commit much more serious crimes, not to mention a federal court already threw this out years ago. A state going after someone for a federal crime, let alone a former president is pretty wild... Unless of course it's entirely to get people talking about it.

At the very least, they've successfully gotten most of the media to stop talking about bank failures, bailouts and buy-outs, or the massive trillion dollar + spending package being forked over because we castrated ourselves over Ukraine, and our government continues to deny that inflation as well as the related interest on the debt are a problem. This is how the media works, and somehow even the (probably controlled) opposition media keeps falling for it too.

[Lliam]

🎯🎯🎯

[Leopard23]

I dont think any of it is seriously meant to get trump jailed. Either the public is bring distracted or they are just trying to stop Trump running.

You talk about politicians getting jailed for funny book keeping imagine if the precedent for jailing an ex us president was set Clinton, Bush, Obama and Biden would be on the chopping block next if that happened.

Look at the ICC warrant for Putin, if they get Putin they mat be able to get Bush.

[Juxtapose]

Oh yeah, Obama alone is an immense war criminal.

[Leopard23]

Exactly and if you jail an ex president why not a sitting president? Why not every federal or state senator and congressman for all the ilegal shit they've done?

[Redcupsolo]

Alvin is making a huge mistake.

[DryGermanGuy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscam

[NYCQuestions1976]

Even if the specific charges are legitimate, the Manhattan District Attorney doesn't have the jurisdiction to bring an indictment. It would need to come from the New York State Attorney General or the United States Attorney General. Both have decided against bringing charges. This whole thing is going to backfire royally, and I'm going to laugh my ass off. It's as if the liberals and socialists in this country are trying to turn Trump into Obi-Wan Kenobi ahead of the 2024 election. All they're going to do is make him more popular and more powerful. They don't learn.

[Lliam]

Yup. It's all about Stormy Daniels. It is a very weak case.
This is just another desperate, Hail Mary attempt to tarnish Trump and to prevent him from running in 2024. Pathetic.
An the media is using it to distract people from important issues.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Lliam. Agreed. Even if the non-case was stronger it's still a pathetic effort at targeting one individual. Loon at all the shit Bill and Hillary Clinton have done. Do you see the right still trying to find them down legally?

[Exterminatore]

I don’t know about them. I just resigned to the fact these left wingers are going to go after him for any reason they can. After he was elected protests launched. When that didn’t work they did the Russian collusion thing, attempted 2 impeachments, and the Jan 6th thing. When those didn’t work they went for the documents at Mara Lago, and now this.


It doesn’t matter if you like the man or his politics, we all must admit no American politician has been more hounded than he has, and that this must be a political witch-hunt after all this. If he was really guilty of something, one of these charges or attempts to remove him from power would have been successful. I think they’re just trying to keep him from running again.


Left wingers are also obsessed with the man. How many times as someone on here said: “….. but Trump……” when the man hasn’t been president now for 3 years?

[Lliam]

🎯🎯🎯

[Redcupsolo]

Brilliant video. This will all amount to nothing. But I just wish the Republicans weren't such pussies. They should have started the impeachment for Joe, Kamala and Merick.

[Juxtapose]

For real!

[Redcupsolo]

Trump is awesome, but America doesn't deserve him. He lost a ton of money by taking the piss ant public service job of being the president. When this retarded Stormy Daniels thing blows over, Trump should announce that he's not seeking reelection, and America deserves to have a moron like Biden destroying the country. If Trump could convince the left that he really was out of the picture, they would shit bricks. What else would they have to bitch about? What would The View have to say? What would MSNBC have to say? Biden is going after washing machines, and soon it will be dryers. What will the left say about that? The left voted for a brain-dead moron, because they were GIVEN their opinion that Trump is bad. The left doesn't form their own opinions, because they don't have the grey matter to do that. When the boogeyman is gone, who will they blame for Armageddon?

[Juxtapose]

They would blame Ron DeSantis. If Ron is out of the picture, Tucker Carlson could be a good pick IF he ran.

[exitseven]

yes and add to it that it was 7 years ago and past the statute of limitations there is really no case. t
he democrats will look stupid once again.

[Juxtapose]

They're really hoping that if he gets any crime whatsoever officially on his record then he can't run for president.

It is rather pathetic and I think it's only going to make him more popular.

Oh and by the way I did not know that, thanks!

[NostalgiaSenpi]

If they're willing to do this to a president with little to no evidence, just think about what they will do to you. It's probably a political ploy to get everyone to not pay attention to something else.

[Redcupsolo]

Like WW3.

[LeeannaDD]

The question is if we're gonna arrest Trump for that, then when are we going to arrest Biden and son for influence peddling?

[normalice]

This is far right misinformation. They should totally remove questions that lie, in my opinion.

[Sasahara]

Where is the lie in "Do you know about the charges against Trump?" ?
Thats the question. Then he provided a honest video. So, unless you can point out where the lie is in the question, this question should not be removed in your opinion.

[normalice]

The lie is in "Well here is 1 minute of it being explained in an actually honest manner," as it was not honest. It was far right misinformation.

[Juxtapose]

Holy shit dude, I can't even have an opinion that differs from yours without me being a fucking liar?

I'm the one with the power to censor here, I could remove your opinion right now. You better appreciate that I'm not like you.

[normalice]

You can't call an opinion "honest" when it is far right misinformation and then play the victim when you are called out on it, no. That's something far right people do. Also, no, your opinion is supposed to be a response to questions. Admitting your opinion is the question is admitting you are using the site to push a narrative instead of how it is supposed to be used.

And I don't actually care if you remove my opinion or not. If I had a nickle for every far right digital soldier who wasn't on my block list complained about censorship while threatening to delete my response, with not a shred of self awareness, I could probably buy twitter. I only post it so the two or three people who might stumble onto it are given a reminder that far right people are always lying because they are playing an alternate reality game where they saturate themselves in fantasies of being thhe victim in a cartoon world of white christian nationalism. My only question ever with a right winger is if they are aware they are lying or if they are genuinely sold on their own misinformation. Deleting my response usually means they are aware they are lying.

[Juxtapose]

I'm allowed to ask a question and say what I think about it. The mods agree with me since they don't remove my questions. And it's not far right misinformation, my source is a liberal you dunce.

You're the one that's saying I should be censored and when I threaten to treat you the same way all of a sudden I'm the bad guy. You're a fucking piece of work!

Woke weirdo.

[Juxtapose]

@Lliam @KrakenAttackin @exitseven @NYCQuestions1976

Come on guys, get a load of this crap.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Juxtapose The guy is a lost cause. He once posted on this site that he thought Lori Lightfoot was a good mayor. 😂

[normalice]

Your source isn't liberal. And I'm saying people shouldn't be allowed to lie. You're apparently saying they should be allowed to lie. We're just going to have to agree to disagree on that, I suppose, as there isn't really an argument for why people shouldn't be allowed to lie online that doesn't assume people should strive for integrity. Which there is no argument for why people should strive for integrity, so that's that. I'm only saying if this is a site that wants to strive for integrity, false premise questions posted not to get feedback but to push a narrative should be moved to the mytake section or taken down altogether. Posting misinformation as a question just to get more eyes on it is a common far right tactic. If that's what they want their site to be then it's not my problem just so long as they are aware of the rot they are allowing.

Also, I don't recall posting that Lori Lightfoot was a good mayor, as i dont live in Chicago and dont know much about it. The most i can imagine is contradicting far right misinformation just to contradict it. I can say the apolitical people I know that do live there have continued to be apolitical, so whatever tragic drama the far right fake news has enraged its base with about her can't have been that bad in real life. Why do you Christian nationalists always gotta lie to make any point? Think Id be alarmed if it were me. Which I guess is why I'm not a right winger anymore 😅

[Sasahara]

@normalice its not a lie or far lie misinformation just because you are an SJW who is so far left even normal lefties are right wing in your opinion.

[Juxtapose]

^^ this

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Sasahara Bingo. He makes Bill Maher look like Benito Mussolini. 😂

[Lliam]

Typical modern "leftist". "Nobody should be allowed to access to information that I disagree with!!!" 😭
"

[normalice]

@Sasahara No, it's a lie. I know you want to believe e it but that's just not sufficient for something actually being true

@Lliam Even your flimsy rebuttals are far right lies.. It has nothing to do with disagreement so much as outright lies.

Y'all could just stop lying🤷

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Juxtapose @Lliam @Sasahara I told you guys that you're wasting your time. @normalice is a lost cause. He lives in some sort of alternate reality and can never win an argument with any actual facts, so he just dismisses everything and everyone he disagrees with as lies. It's lazy and hilarious. He also has a habit of changing the definitions of words he uses, and uses doubletype when you call him out on something nonsensical, claiming "that's not what I posted" or "that's not what I meant". Check his history. It's filled with what I just described.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 yeah, no mater how bewildered you get over the far right misinformation that worked on you not working on me, it still isn't going to work on me. I understand this "why won't you just believe my unfounded beliefs!" is what the crusades were all about, but I think you're too entertained to do something dumb like attack the capitol a second time.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice The far left liberals have the original blueprint and copyright cornerstone on misinformation and disinformation in this country. Yammering on about far right misinformation and disinformation while pretending that none exists on the far liberal left is the epitome of hypocrisy and exceptionally delusional.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 no they don't. I understand the far right fake news successfully fertilized its incel farms with that bullshit, but that's just because they know no one is stupid enough to vote republican based on merit.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice If you honestly believe that the left doesn't lie as much as the right, then you're not only delusional, but you've got a bowl of oatmeal in your head.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 yeah, I get why the far right tries to bothsides how their addiction to lies but it's just not reality. Sorry 🤷

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice Just because recreational marijuana use is decriminalized now doesn't mean it's okay to be a pothead.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 it isn't decriminalized in Iowa. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know 😅

[Juxtapose]

Who should be the arbiter of truth normalice? Everyone has some sort of bias so giving anyone that power is really dangerous. It is much better to let people settle things in debates and make up their own minds.

Repression of opinion is not a good precident.

[normalice]

Acknowledging bias is unavoidable isn't an excuse for nursing an addiction to a high potency uncut bias. Again, I make the assumption we are all striving for some integrity. Once one makes that assumption then it naturally follows to ensure one's own opinion withstands the test of scrutiny then they should involve as many external biases as possible. This works well until some con artist comes along that sets out to be unreasonable on purpose just to insert their message into an environment where everyone is given guaranteed access to an audience - as a lack of "freedom of reach" has always been the Achille's heel of con artists. This is why the right, dominated by con artists, repeatedly calls it "freedom of speech" until it becomes truth to those who were exposed to it.

But in fact you love censorship. I can pretty much guarantee you don't read every email in your spam box to see if the prince of Nigeria might have some sound investment advice to offer. This is what you call censorship - denying a con artist access to an audience. At no point do you demand right wingers stop being con artists - instead you demand the apolitical be exposed to them. Conservativism is, ultimately, just another pyramid scheme..

And lies are only opinion if you don't know any better.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice Conservatism is a pyramid scheme? That's something crazy that someone says when they believe that they should be handed things in life without properly earning them, simply because they happen to exist.

If recreational marijuana isn't the root cause of your delusions, then I suggest therapy or a lobotomy.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 you can't just throw a bunch of far right buzz words out and expect them to be related to the conversation 😂

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Juxtapose I told you. He's lost. If you need more proof, ask him when he believes Russia annexed Crimea. It happened on Thursday, 2/20/2014 during the Obama administration, but he posted on here a while back that wasn't true. 😂

[Lliam]

@NYCQuestions1976. Right? It was totally legit for the U. S. to annex Puerto Rico and Hawaii, though.
But annexation of Crimea by the Russian Empire in 1783, following the Russo-Turkish War (1768–1774) was evil because... Russia. I blame Putin. LOL

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Lliam The Annexation Of Puerto Rico is my favorite football play. 👍😂

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Lliam https://youtu.be/fekOAov_I9w

[Lliam]

@NYCQuestions1976. Yeah, but look at the Hawaiian moves

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I'm aware of when Russia annexed Crimea. Fun question: do you know who in the Obama administration flubbed the situation? I'll give you a hint: it rhymes with banana fort.

[normalice]

*during

[KrakenAttackin]

@Juxtapose. How fucked up is it that @normalice is hell bent for censorship. Censoring free speech is the ultimate in saying you have no argument and you are afraid of different views.

[normalice]

@KrakenAttackin I mean, I understand why you far right loons call it censorship in your circle jerks, but again I'm well aware what you really want is for the con artists that tricked you to be able to trick everyone else. That's all the far right has become - a pyramid scheme of misinformation. Or maybe that's all it ever was? Could Hitler have come to power without Goebbels? I actually think not. I don't think the 1940 Germans would have been so hateful without being wisecracked into the idea. And I don't think that of ultra Maga, either. But we're here now so Im not going to pretend I agree you should be given guaranteed access to other people's eyes.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice So the far left should be given guaranteed access to other people's eyes, and everyone else should be censored? That's how every shitty communist and socialist government in history has been able to steal power. Your mind has taken a serious walk off the map.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 those are your words, not mine. You can defend them 🤷

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Juxtapose @Lliam @exitseven @KrakenAttackin @Sasahara Here we go! He's starting in with the "that's not what I said" and "that's not what I meant" nonsense! 😂😂😂

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 well, of course. Straw man arguments only work when the person you are straw manning isn't around to point out the brain worm up your ass must be messing with you. The only thing I think should be granted "freedom of reach" is public education. But the content of that is, by definition, agreed to by the public, which includes you. And you're not of the left, so neither is it. Sorry, no victimhood for you 😅

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice Liberals annexed victimhood long ago by lying to the general public that they need big fat stupid bloated grim reaper socialism government overreaching into their lives and pockets just to survive, and simpletons like yourself fell for it hook, line, and sinker. You want to see real lies? You want to see a real victim? Look in the mirror.

There's no strawman argument here. In this thread, you claimed the the original question should be removed (censorship) by falsely claiming it's a lie with zero actual proof or evidence to back up that claim; you claimed the the right lies all the time about everything while claiming the left basically never lies (hypocrisy) with zero actual proof or evidence to back up that claim; you claimed that no one would vote for Republicans based on merit with zero actual proof or evidence to back up that claim; you claim that conservatism is a pyramid scheme with zero actual proof or evidence to back up that claim; and then you use Hitler as an example of why anyone that doesn't fall for the liberal socialism communism indoctrination that you perpetuate needs to the censored as liars. Your view of life and society is very narrow and intolerant.

You're a leftist lemming happily running off a censorship cliff with blinders on. Good luck with that.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I understand the far right fake news brainwashed you with that misinformation but that is, at best, projection. I wouldmparse through it to refute it point by point but really why bother? Its clear you derive your self worth from your weird dumb political fantasy and I have learned there is never a good chance of messing with someones self worth.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice Translation: You've got nothing nothing based in actual fact or reality to add to this conversation, so you just falsely label everything you disagree with as lies, and use it as an excuse to make no effort. Lazy. Typical socialist. Take the L and own it like an adult.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I wonder if there are any right wingers who wonder why they have to translate everything before they can be mad at it 😅

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice You mean translate from "narrow-minded simpleton" (you) to "just about the rest of the universe" (normal people)? Considering that I need to dumb down everything I type to you, the answer is absolutely yes. 👍

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 no translate from "real world" to "far right alternate reality game" 😅

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice You might be breathing in far too much naturally occurring ethanol.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 wouldn't doubt it. Worthless Republicans run this shitty state, after all.

[Lliam]

Has this normalice (malice is normal?) guy been smoking weed and watching TV all day, every day, since he was eleven? How else does a 43 year old become so stupid and immature? It's scary to think of people like that can be taken seriously by anybody. And yet we have woke libs.

[normalice]

@Lliam I mean, if clinging to personal attacks is your version of intelligence then if I told you you're mom must have been months doucheing herself after she gave birth to such a huge piece of shit, am I your next pick for president now?

[Lliam]

LOL Once again, you demonstrate you level of maturity. The prototypical internet troll.

[normalice]

@Lliam yeah, typical right winger wants to dish it out but can't take it 😅

[Sasahara]

@normalice They seems to take it better than you do.

[normalice]

@Sasahara I have spent none of the time here grasping for victimhood, lol. Does it really just not occur to any of you how bizarre it is that you have to keep changing the definitions of things? Like censorship used to just mean the government stopping speech. But now the far right has convinced itself that censorship is anyone who calls the far right out on their bullshit. Doesn't realizing that make you wonder if staying so loyal to a political party that relies so heavily on bullshit is particularly wise? I get how hard it is not to be loyal to someone who made you laugh and agrees to hate whoever you hate, but how much time must one waste on that alternate reality game before waking up to the fact that it's just a game? Or is it really all about validation? The world is full of people who find validation without being a rockstar or billionaire just with a little bit of effort to consider the world around them. Each of you could easily join us, I think. You could just stop being a dick. It's never too late to stop being a dick! Well, except for that NYCquestions guy. He strikes me as pretty much a lost cause forever 😅

[Sasahara]

@normalice Dude, I'm not American, I'm not loyal to a political party, I vote for whoever I agree with the most when I vote. So in theory, I'm a centrist, except that far left leftists has gone so far left, and draggee the center leftward, that I ended up Right without changing opinion.

A lot of what you wrote describes the left better than the Right.
And you seem more lost than @NYCQuestions1976.

[normalice]

@Sasahara no, there is no theory in which you are a centrist. You are definitely far right.

[Sasahara]

Yes I am, because I agree with both the left and the right. So there you go, proving my point. Not only are you far left, you have gone so far what should be the center is far right to you.
For example, I belive that global warming is real, something a bunch of American rightwing people don't.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Sasahara Climate change is definitely real. The Earth is always changing. I just question the validity of the "doomsday" paranoia.

Also, I'm not lost. I'm right here. 👍

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Sasahara "I'm a centrist, except that far left leftists has gone so far left, and dragged the center leftward, that I ended up Right without changing opinion."

Well said. That's exactly what happened with Bill Maher.

[normalice]

@Sasahara something like 70% of America acknowledges climate change is real. It is pretty bipartisan. The difference is in how important people think it is to fix it. The left thinks it ought to be a top priority. The right think preserving the right to bully Trans people should take priority. The opinions of the left and right overlap a lot more than not in the US. The way they are kept at each other's throat is the culture wars, which are contrived and promoted almost entirely by the right. All the left really wants is for the rich to pay their fair share, preserve the planet, and equal application of the law. Anything outside of that is usually a fight made up by the right to keep the voters on the right from concluding they actually agree with all three of those points. And it's working. That's the entire difference between the left and the right.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice You're a moronic drooling balloon-headed fool who falsely labels everything you disagree with as lies, you maneuver through the English language like a preschooler, and you're calling me a dick and a lost cause. Doesn't your tongue ever get tired and numb from licking windows all day? 😂😂😂

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 more name cailing, eh. I'm sorry you were held back in special education school and they actually had to find an even shorter bus for you so the other special education students could feel good about themselves. It must be rough to have a brain incapable of digesting any information unless it is far right alternate reality bullshit. But you could just decide reality matters and stop, you know. 🤷

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice You still haven't posted anything factual or tangible to support your nonsensical views. Falsely claiming that everything you disagree with is a lie is nothing more than a lame cop-out.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 you don't even know what my views are. You don't know anything unless far right misinformation tells you to know it 🤣

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice Your views are of corn and your parents' basement. That much is certain, in any reality. 😂😂😂

[Sasahara]

@NYCQuestions1976 Here is the dirty little secret about far left leftists. To them, the political Right = bad is a fundamental truth, in the same way water freeze to ice when frozen, or a person will eventually die at some point. Because its a fundamental truth, it can't be wrong. Therefor the people saying the fundamental truth is wrong, has to be wrong. And there is as good as no possibility to change their opinion on that.
The trick to arguing with these types of people is to not argue to prove them their idea is wrong, but to show other people who read the comments they are wrong.

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 spot on about the corn. My parents are far right, though, so they live in their parents basement 😅

[normalice]

@Sasahara it's no secret the right relies entirely on freedom of reach to trick anyone they can. I've been saying that from the beginning, you can't defeat the left with logic because logic is on the lefts side. So you have to flood the zone with shit. That's your only option.

[Sasahara]

@normalice You are pretty good at explaining how the left work, but blaming it on the Right. Nobody is as blind as someone who refuses to see, and everyone else in this conversation seems to see whats up except you.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@normalice So "you can't defeat the left with logic because logic is on the lefts side" is your claim? Let's put it to the test.

As just one example, the left wants student loan forgiveness. Is that logical?

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Sasahara For me, it's not even the whole "right or wrong" argument. It's the whole "If you think differently than me in any way, then everything you think differently is lies." fallacy. There's so much grey area in life.

[normalice]

@Sasahara yeah, I get why the right is always resorting to "I know you are but what am I" tactics, but don't expect me to take them seriously just because you were conned into doing so 😅

@NYCQuestions1976 I dont know enough about student loan forgiveness to make an opinion. I will say if we're going to routinely forgive rich peoples debt it is logical to do poor peoples, too. But I can't speak to the logic of forgving rich peoples debt because I disagree.

[Sasahara]

@normalice Funny you are arguing that. you shoud know what I am, I'm a centrist, dragged onto the Right by far left loons. I already said that. Not my fault you can't accept the truth. Because you are the one beliving lies.

[normalice]

@Sasahara I know you said that. Because the far right told you to say that. Not because it has any resemblance to reality 😅

[Sasahara]

@normalice I said it because its the truth. Not that far peft people like you can see the truth even if it stares you in the face.

[normalice]

@Sasahara it's what you believe, but it isn't true. Sorry 🤷

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Sasahara @Juxtapose Bill Maher, a traditional liberal, explains and demonstrates with comedy, some of the reasons why the far left is so illogical and extremely dangerous:

youtube.com/shorts/JWVlWyjgzAM?feature=share

John Stossel, an award-winning libertarian journalist, eloquently and compellingly shows the extremely dangerous folly of far left thinking in business and education:

https://youtu.be/D2KX8wXzc78

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 Bill Maher has long claimed to be a libertarian. Indeed, he claimed he never left the libertarian party: the libertarian party left him.

[NYCQuestions1976]

deadline.com/.../

Bill Maher: "Let’s get this straight. It’s not me who’s changed, it’s the left. A large contingent has gone mental, and I’m willing to call them out."

[normalice]

@NYCQuestions1976 I would disagree with the word "large," but otherwise sure. Though again he said basically the same thing about the libertarian party 20 years ago.

[Dargil]

And the statute of limitations may have expired.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

These charges are to turn the people come 2024 to vote for Trump.

[FeelingGroovy]

Hunter must be worried. lol

[RealMarek]

Third world stuff, this. Get used to it.

[Juxtapose]

Fuck no, my country is better than that. Once the people are pushed far enough they will see..

[RealMarek]

I hope you’re right, but most people seem pretty compliant to me and I don’t see any set of elites willing to fund real resistance. We already know that unless you’re BLM or Antifa street protesting will land you in a DC prison without due process or medical treatment under Nigerian prison guards who have been told you are a white supremacist. We’ve let something like 5 million in from the third world in two years and because of confiscating Russia’s foreign reserves dedollarization is accelerating. The US is basically Argentina with nukes.