Donald Trump indicted, people briefed on the matter say, making him the first ex-president charged with a crime. This was in connection with the hush money he paid to a prostitute, apparently
My thoughts are that we let the criminal justice system do its job.
He's presumed innocent until proven guilty.
At this point, we don't even know what the official charges are until his arraignment at the New York County (*) Supreme Courthouse in downtown Manhattan. (You see this building often during exterior shots during the 2nd half of episodes of "Law & Order".
Notice the inscription:
THE TRUE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IS THE FIRMEST PILLAR OF GOVERNMENT
Trump's alleged crimes occurred before his term as President, so let's hope that inscription remains true.
(*) New York State has 62 counties. Each of New York City's 5 boroughs is also a county of New York State. Manhattan is New York County.
Being charged doesn't mean your guilty of anything. We live in the US, innocent until proven guilty.
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Hmm, I think when the Hunter Biden laptop story broke that was a surprise, because it's very much at odds with the image that Biden has built up in senate and during his election.
Trump already had a scandal with sex, and hush money. This does zero to damage his image as it is already part of his image. It would be like "breaking news, Ron DeSantis fires all his diversity hires" or something like that. If someone breaks the law, but it fits in with their past actions, current actions, and likely future actions, it will likely boost their brand rather than tarnish it.
I would not be surprised at all if regardless of the outcome of the trial more women come out who have been paid hush money and signed NDAs, Trump counter sues and the momentum causes him to surpass DeSantis in the primaries. Which, honestly I don't like because I think DeSantis is a stronger candidate for the job in every way. He's smarter, less tainted, has actual policies rather than simply goals, man, I could go on and on, you get the idea.
Pretty wild, but I don’t expect a ton to come of this. But I think it does break the seal for other jurisdictions to go ahead and indict him. This feels like a soft opening for a bigger charge coming down elsewhere, between the Georgia election phone call, the mishandling and (more importantly) obstruction with the classified documents, fallout from Jan. 6th, etc. I still feel like he somehow won’t spend a day in prison for any of it, despite being likely guilty of much or all of it, but to me, it’s more important for this guy to just have his pants pulled down in front of the country, and hopefully people will start leaving spilled cups of orange Kool-Aid strewn about on the ground and be shaken out of their Trump Trance, hopefully start dealing in reality again.
He likely won’t serve time for this. Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor in New York. They could elevate it to a felony if they tie it to the campaign finance violation that his attorney was convicted of but none of that is overly serious. But if you commit a crime, even a petty one, you can’t complain about consequences. Now the looming indictments in Georgia are a whole different ball game. Those crimes could land him in prison for years and, at his age, could be a de facto life sentence. The special counsel investigation is another wildcard. He could see federal charges there as well. Stay tuned. NY is probably just the beginning of the end for Donald Trump……. but he brought it on himself. You can’t attack the establishment, then commit multiple crimes and expect the establishment to protect you. He acted stupidly from day one.
The indictment by the NY Grand Jury is sealed so we don't know what the charge is or whether there are multiple charges. It could be a misdemeanor or a minor felony. We won't know that until he is arrested and booked. It seems that he will turn himself in sometime next week (w/o 2-Apr-2023).
This will probably affect the 2024 election. His supporters won't be affected but Independents and Democrats who might otherwise consider voting for him may have second thoughts.
I personally doubt he will ever serve jail time. His attorneys will draw things out so long that the case will eventually be dismissed.
I hope he gets convicted with the maximum penalty for all crimes.
He is still under investigation for the insurrection of my capitol, mishandling sensitive documents, and election interference. Seriously this guy is a nut job with a criminal record, who can even support this loser?
If he is guilty, then he should be punished. However, it is very troubling that many politicians of the opposition party have done the same thing and were not charged. Hillary Clinton and Obama had to pay fines but that was all. This prosecutor actually campaigned on the promice that he would find something on Trump. He used his office to look for anything to charge Trump with. Meanwhile, he reduced over half of the felony cases he worked on to misdemeanors and let murders and rapists go free. Now, Trump must face a judge who definitely has animosity towards him. This is not how a free country works. Yesterday, the president of Zimbabwe, a poor African nation with a history of election problems, criticized the American political system. You won't find many foreign countries who think that the USA has a honest election system. Personally, I think eventually they will become a 1-party socialist nation like North Korea. It seems to be heading that way.
Just seems like another political attack by the democrats against Trump. Trying to imprison him for whatever they can imprison him for because they think it’ll hurt his chances of winning in 2024. Personally I couldn’t care less whether Trump can or can’t run in 2024. Don’t get me wrong though if he does and he becomes nominee he will 110% have my vote. But honestly I’d prefer DeSantis because the left has made Trump far too divisive. Do the Dems really think they can find a women or poc who can beat DeSantis? I mean, hell, even Trump beat Hillary. I bet he could do it again.
He is a traitor to his country. He tried to overthrow the government with his red hat lemmings. Everyone from Jan 6 should have been guilty of treason. But in the end, I doubt they will let a former president get convicted, though he should be.
I think. I will wait till i first hear the charges, and see the evidence presented in court before i officially make a decision.
Do i think he should've have been investigated yes.
If you are accused of a crime, it is there job to investigate it.
It's apparently either not really related to the "hush money" incident, or it's only a small part since there are nearly 3 dozen charges in total and most seem to be business related.
What I think will happen is the trial ends up dragging out well into election season past primaries where he will likely lose because of the ongoing trial being a problem, then after either has charges dropped or is convicted for fines to the tune of millions of dollars but of course, is only a fraction of his wealth. I doubt they'd put him in-prison because people of his status and walth never get put in prison, only fined.
Really a misdemeanor under New York law, and since it occurred in 2016 and Trump's official residence was New York till September 2019, likely out of statute. That is why the DA had to do contortions to make it a felony. With the alleged escalating second crime an alleged federal offense that was never charged, it seems possible if not probable that this does really fit NY law and gets dismissed by the judge. If it does go to trial, MichaeI Cohen is a walking textbook example of reasonable doubt.
I think the NY DA Alvin Bragg has only indicted Trump for Woke brownie points who ran for office on a pledge to indict the former president.,
Trump's then-personal attorney Michael Cohen has already stated that he personally paid off Stormy Daniels and that nothing illegal took place and Trump knew nothing about the pay off.
Getting this into court maybe a mistake by the NY DA Alvin Bragg as he will have no idea what kind of evidence Trumps lawyer Joe Tacopina will present, or if the case will even make it through discovery.
the system is the most ridiculous system in the entire universe.
I'm neither democrat nor republican as I see both are full of shit, however the democrats are far worse look how desperate they are to throw all this trash on trump because they are sooooooo scared he's gonna win. It's ridiculous.
how many presidents started wars in other countries on false accusations that they themselves admitted later to be false alarms in which they went in full on bombing innocent people to later say OOOPS! and this president who didn't go and kill innocent all over the world as so many previous presidents have, is being indicted? for a hooker? WTF is wrong with this country 🤯... what's wrong with most democrats? more so than republicans. democrats take a trophy for stupidity and carelessness for human life on this one.
First, I believe it's an abuse of the justice system. Even assuming he did it, it pales in comparison to numerous politicians who committed legitimate crimes, none of whom were attacked to this degree by the DOJ.
Having said that, good riddance. He's such a petty, inept demagogue, that I sincerely hope this takes him out of the public eye. As someone who's conservative, the last thing we need for our brand (which has been painted as the party of rich old white men) is someone like him. I don't know if Ron DiSantis is a globalist plant by Soros, but he's looking worlds better for the party and the conservative movement than that complete ahole Trump.
He served his purpose as being a giant FK U to the Liberals, now it's time for him to go.
He can make rikers island great again. just kidding.
like, what is the charge and severity? Just seems petty to me. I can see if it was covering up a crime... false accounting, murder, etc.. This is hiding an affair. And why would they even think to hide the affair... because she threatened to expose? Apparently, they didn't pay off others...
and I'm spending tax dollars sending him to jail for this when NYC repeat offenders walk free. Makes no sense...
Lastly, why isn't Stormy D indicted for accepting a bribe? I guess you are allowed to receive a bribe and then tattle tale... then you keep the bribe and "nail" the payer. This will be the end of bribes and NDA's. I'd rather put him in jail for trusting sleazy women and boob stupid. That is a better hat a lot of guys could wear "NABS - "Never Again Boob Stupid".
I don't see what's the big deal. Same with Clinton. He got a BJ in the white house. So what? Sometimes you get an itch when you get lots of stress being president and all that. JFK was all over the place.
I like that, actually.
As English is not my native language, Trump's various activities give me opportunity to widen my vocabulary in details that I ignored until now.
Quite soon - I expect- to also familiarize with terminology of the geriatric field.
Hail Trump :D
I'd even still put more faith in him than Biden. But actually Ben Savage would be my top tier pick for president but I guess congress would work for him too. Younger, he played the boy in Boy Meets World and lives his life very similarly to that character. He's dabbled in enough politics to be better than any of the old blokes they have in congress I'd bet high dollar.
Indictment is not conviction. Due Process still states "innocent until proven guilty". So we'll see how this goes but honestly, I don't care.
Cause no matter how this turns out, I'm still going to have to pick up overtime hours at work just so I can put a little extra gas in the tank and maybe be able to save a little for when the next crisis hits. Cause gas ain't getting cheaper, food ain't getting cheaper, and now they're discussing the idea of taxing our 401k's.
"first ex president charged with a crime" media bullshit. Trump was already charged with countless crimes and the media always reports on the allegations but never cares to mention when he's found not guilty.
Jimmy Carter was charged and even arrested and I'm sure there's more.
This news is media bullshit, nothing else.
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