
Do you feel like there's more hatred today then there was 15 years ago?


I'd say there's way more, especially since we're technically in a psychological war right now.
Abusive people still exist, but instead of the past being something we today can see as obviously bad, nowadays it's got a spin to it to make it look good. Lots of gaslighting, lots of projection, you name it. Even to an extent, people are allowed to be violent towards certain groups of people - and they get away with it. Because of this, we are no different than in the past when it was bad. Are we worse? Depending on what it is, I'd say so. At least in the past, the higher-ups did all of the work and the commoners followed pace because they sort of had to; nowadays the higher-ups even pretend that they are the poor unwealthy victims. Though this time, not a lot of the commoners are putting up with it, which sounds good and all but that just causes a lot more turmoil.
The worst thing is that we haven't learned enough from past hatred. We are still not strong enough. That makes it worse because we know how to put an end to it and we are just not.
A lot more stupidity today I will say , I blame social media for playing a big part on destroying people’s minds and the way we think , I am sure stupid shit has been going on for a long time but now that social media has entered into our lives , it’s like we know everyone else’s business when back in the day before social media was really a thing , people didn’t really give 2 shits on what was happening inside someone else’s home or what they were eating , or where they were going or we didn’t care what was happening across the world , So now our heads are filled with useless knowledge and people aren’t as content anymore , Most people have a hard time accepting themselves for who they are , cuz they are constantly comparing their lives to others , it’s a sad world we live in. Even relationships aren’t the same as they use to be , Back then when you met someone you valued that person more and appreciated them , Now it’s like we can’t trust each other anymore , Because people assume the worst case scenarios , Oh they must be cheating on me or they are probably screwing 10 other people , there is no way this person likes me , they must be out of their mind , They say they love me but that doesn’t mean shit , It’s ok if I go bang this other person cuz it isn’t love , what’s STD’s oh that is nothing let’s just fuck , it’s just sex etc. I wish I could go back time and stop social media from happening to be honest, because this world is so lost and people’s minds are so fucked up absorbing all this nonsense that is being fed to us. We are becoming lazy fucking people no one really has work ethic anymore , No one really
Trusts anyone anymore.
of course there is cause the economy has gone to shit. inflation has been overtaking wage rises for decades but it has gotten very extreme in the last 2 years. specially with the corona policies and lockdowns and the war in ukraine. but even without that, that's just what money does over time.
so you maybe wondering why i'm talking about economics. well being poor correlates with a whole host of negative outcomes. you could generally say people get less satisfied with their life or in other words people get more unhappy. unhappy people are more likely to be aggressive. easy as that. the worse the economy, the more people are poor. the more people are poor, the more people are aggressive.
My parents tell me in the 80s and 90s racism didn’t even exist and black and white and Asian all races used to get along by that I mean they were —much more peaceful with each other. Now government is making all races seem evil and victimizing black peoples even more.
They don’t need victimization that’s the sweetest degradation you can to do a human without “noticing” they are much powerful than that I hope they understood what’s going on is sad they get fooled easily.. due to government and hidden agendas
Beside racism people in old days even 90s again lol were much happier because they were interacting more face to face with people no unnecessary competition etc
Well we have to get ready for it to get worst worseR than ever. AI is rolling non binary gender is rolling etc it’s not us who’s killing humanity and earth we are simply not aware what’s done behind our back and obviously we are scared too. Humans sadly are also 2 brainwashed if you try to wake them up you might end up in jail for mental abuse and conspiracy. So yeah it’s f up
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Not really that's just a matter of perception that people would always have in present and due to the natural growth of everything.
More people you have more of the chances of hearing about terrible acts happening but the actual ratio isn't all that different. Same for goes more time you have. Or more anything. And what does the human society do? get more of everything.
So while there is more it's an actually not really because the Raito evens out. It would be like saying there is more cake to go around but then now you have more people so... the amount of cake each person got was actual the same as before.
No, I feel like things are much better now. People are more aware of racism and how bad it is to mock someone/insult them for their culture. It is not bad to acknowledge difference in our skin tone/features, but it is bad to belittle someone or make them feel inferior for something they cannot control. The world is becoming much more inclusive day by day.
Not to sound like the bad guy, but shitty things like hatred is always going to exist no matter what. You will always meet people who are prejudiced against certain groups. It could be due to their upbringing, past experience… or just mindless bias with no reasoning whatsoever.
Oh yeah, 100%. People used to be open to discussion and finding common ground. Now days it's, "If you don't agree with me, you're scum." 15 years ago, minority groups, especially LGBTs were fighting for equal treatment, but instead of giving them equal treatment, the SJWs starting giving these people SPECIAL treatment. This ended up creating a sense of victimhood and entitlement. These groups which once dwelled on the fringes of society have now become mainstream, and believe if you don't treat them better than everyone else, you're a bigot. All this has done is cause people to dislike them, when before, they did their thing and they didn't bother anyone and no one bothered them.
The black nationalist movement was also practically dead in the U. S. until Obama came into power.
The woke Leftists have basically replaced White Supremacy with Minority Supremacy.
It's the same amount of hatred globally that has always existed, it's just that former seemingly small minority, have a much bigger audience via tv and the internet now and it's being reported on much more frequently. It's kind of like the people that go, gay people didn't exist until these modern times or police crime against POC's was never this bad or sexual harassment for men and women was so far an in between. It's the ignorance is bliss factor or it's the naivety of ignorance. If it also doesn't affect you personally much, or you only see it on tv, you can wash your hands of it and go about your life being suddenly surprised when you hear of someone getting their head smashed in for looking a certain way or worshipping somewhere someone doesn't agree with.
Hatred, no. Intolerance of other / differing viewpoints, yes. Entitlement, yes. Everyone owes me / the belief that the government should fix my problems, yes. Lack of personal accountability/responsibility, yes.
An example of the BS….. Look at the ridiculousness occurring on college campuses….. attempting to shutdown free speech and open debate. College used to be a great forum to exchange ideas and learn from others with differing backgrounds, beliefs and opinions. The all inclusive crowd only want to be inclusive if you agree with them and will conform to their POV.
Theirs less hangings and less witch trials that require drowning to prove innocents. It's quite honestly the most peaceful humanity has ever been.
It's no less annoying and yet all are free to shake their fist at the clouds to every person's heart content cursing how horrible today is compared to yesterday.
It's pretty much the same as 15 or 30 years ago.
Some time after WW2:in Europe there may have been a time of less hatred and more solidarity, but that was only because people had been exhausted from the excessive hatred of the 1940s.
Currently, I think there is no clear trend.
Yes, I would say that there's more hatred now that 15 years ago. Evil has always been part of our world, but it seems to me that people are getting more hateful and selfish now.
Which is why we're seeing so many crimes taking place. People getting stabbed, shot or even killed for no reason. Or if there's a reason it's usually stupid.
Yes. Back in the old days there was things changing. And again, those who don't understand only hates of what they don't understand. Trans folks, gay folks, mask wearers, feminists, different race of people in common states, so much hate just being different. Much more than last 15 years ago
I don't think there's more or less hatred - we're just more easily exposed to hatred due to technology. Even just 15 years ago - we were only connected to our community and the world from TV - now we can connect to the world through a device on our couch.
It’s not that there is more hatred, it’s that in the last 15 years they have invented many new ways for people to express their hatred and today it is much more visible as a result.
Yes, there is. During the 1990s and into the 2000's, there was far less tribalism and identity politics. This was initiated by Obama and is part of a thrust to justify totalitarianism (socialism and communism) by power-elitists. Sounds goofy, but it is true.
Yes, the hatred with the politicians is stirring the pot. So it's more hatred today than 15 years ago, and I feel bad for the young people. I often feel that this country in America is ruined by Hitler and all the people are slowly killing themselves with drugs, alcohol, the list goes on, etc.
Yes. It’s due to the use of Identity Politics to win elections in the US. The Democrats used it to win Obama’s second term when no other president won a second term with a such a bad economy at the time. Now it is used all the time.
There haven’t been riots since the last election year. There will be riots starting this summer and will ramp up into the next year as the 2024 election cycle begins. Hate brings in voters for the Left.
Sadly there is and it's going to get much, much worse.
Technically yes. More people more problems. The only difference, internet. Now more people know about it , All over the world. Before we were so clueless, unless you heard something on the news about it. As long as governments and religions exist, there will always be more hateful people.
No it's just promoted more. Click bait and algorithms and such, the world has become a more peaceful place, despite the Ukrainian war there is less and less active conflicts in the world, if you would plot a curve of that.
yes, and we will see things in the next 2 years that we never could have imagined.
That's not what I asked. Are the drag queens reading to children teaching the children to hate or dislike anyone?
Have you ever seen a British Pantomime?
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@Avicenna The opportunity never came up. They've been to saunas, though, so they've probably seen more naked people than you have. (Nice use of the emotive word "exposed", there, by the way.)
Do you think cross-dressing people reading stories to children in libraries engenders hate? Because the only hate I see is directed at them.
@goaded; Would you take your grandkids to such events? Since you think they're so great, how come you didn't take your kids to them?
I say let kids be kids rather than exposing them to adult stuff.
There seems to be a lot of hate for people who think it isn't such an awesome thing, and that's the only "hate" I see (not supporting it doesn't constitute hate, but demanding people support it and then defaming them when they don't is a lot closer to "hate". But most of the people who think it's so great don't expose THEIR kids to such stuff and never would. Nor would they send their kids to school with twentysomething men pretending to be under 18, but they claim to support it.
@Avicenna Well, aren't you full of shit. Explain how "The opportunity never came up." doesn't answer your question. Define "adult stuff". There's only one party trying to take parents' rights away, and it's Republicans.
How does cross-dressing people reading stories to children in libraries engender hate? What do YOU feel about them? Is it, perhaps, hate?
@goaded: LOL, your propaganda never stops- everyone knows which party is hostile to parents' basic human rights- it's the collectivist, totalitarian party known as the "Democrats" that is in fact a wholly-owned subsidiary of the CCP (just like you are). The "Democrats" support public school employees violating parents' rights by encouraging and helping minor children mutilate themselves without their parents' knowledge and it's the Democrats that definitely do not want parents having any say on or knowledge of what their children are doing and learning in school. But just admit you hate Republicans because most of them dare have a different opinion or philosophy than your extremist BS. Obviously people not taking their kids to "drag queen story hour" engenders hate on YOUR part. You want the right to protect your children but don't want people you don't like to have the same right or even to exercise their parental rights to protect their children.
Unsurprisingly, you are too afraid to answer whether you'd take your grandchildren to some reading by people who are cross dressing/drag queens because you know you wouldn't do it, nor would you have taken your kids to something like that. People don't do dumb shit like that in Germany (let;s pretend for argument's sake that you actually live there even though you dont).
@goaded: You don't care about parents' rights- all you care about is forcing some nonsense on others, nonsense you wouldn't subject your own family to. And if someone won't go along with the nonsense, you want to demonize them. Now that is weak and pathetic. But I'm sure the elite scum you're sucking up to by pushing that are pleased at your obedience.
That is exactly why you're a totalitarian- the idea of parents deciding for themselves how to raise their children is anathema to you. You expect them to go along with whatever diktats you want them to along with. That's not how a free society works. But you don't want a free society.
Whatever one thinks of nonsense like "drag story hour", parents who don't want to expose their kids to adult themes like that which are not age-appropriate for kids are not the evil reprobates you paint them as. They are parents that are raising their children as they see fit and as parents have raised their children for millenia.
@Avicenna What's it like living in your head where you just make something up and decide it must be true? Things like "nonsense you wouldn't subject your own family to", "totalitarian" (who is it trying to ban books, again?), "evil reprobates you paint them as" (when?).
Nobody's forcing children to go to drag story hour, but you want to cancel them. That's you preventing people "deciding for themselves how to raise their children", not the other way around.
@goaded: There you go playing games again. You were asked if you would take your grandchildren to these "drag queen story hours". You refused to answer. Why not answer truthfully? Do you have something to hide?
And illegal censorship is the province of leftists. You don't have a complaint about that.
"Drag queens" are not an age-appropriate thing to expose small children to. Why are you so hell-bent in pushing them on small children? A parent's main responsibility is to protect their children. And there are plenty of things that small children should not be exposed to. What's next, goaded, pornography? Oh, wait... you do support that in children's books, don't you (and want kids exposed to it)?
@Avicenna Oh, now I want kids exposed to pornography, do I? There you go with the making stuff up and deciding it must be true, again.
Firstly, I just didn't answer, I didn't "refuse to answer".
There's no censorship by the left to complain about; Republicans are the ones taking books out of schools (in case small children are exposed to the idea of cartoon people farting). Drag queens reading books are fun, not something children have to be "protected" from; why are you trying to stop parents who understand that from taking their children to see them? Nobody is forcing anyone to take their kids.
If I had grandchildren and there was an event in my area, I might probably would take them, it sounds like fun!
@goaded: Now you have just shown how dishonest you are. It's books with pornography or other topics that are not appropriate for children that are being challenged.
Beyond the fact that some of these drag queens have openly admitted that they are trying to groom children, drag queens are highly socialized and their events are often sexually explicit. The drag queens are obviously there to promote transgenderism rather than to merely read to children (which they would do dressing normally of it were literacy they were trying to promote).
You wouldn't allow small children to have strippers or prostitutes in their work outfits read to them, and they shouldn't be put in any sexualized environments they cannot understand (which at their age they cannot).
As for your false claims about censorship- are you claiming that Democratic members of Congress and the Biden Administration haven't censored or requested censorship on Twitter and other social media?
@Avicenna You make up lies about me and then accuse me of being dishonest? That's so you.
So this is just "books with pornography or other topics that are not appropriate for children", is it?
"The books that Llano County officials removed from the library shelves include Isabel Wilkerson’s “Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents”; "They Called Themselves the K. K. K.: The Birth of an American Terrorist Group" by Susan Campbell Bartoletti; the graphic novel "Spinning" by Tillie Walden; and three books from Dawn McMillan’s “I Need a New Butt!” series."
"some of these drag queens have openly admitted that they are trying to groom children"
Sure they have. Have you noticed the people shouting "groomer" the loudest often turn out to be... groomers?
Look up Republican Texas Rep. Bryan Slaton, South Dakota GOP candidate Joel Koskan, QAnon leader Phil Godlewski, Charles Sutherland (who painted "groomer" on two libraries and had child porn and a child-sized doll in his bed).
"As for your false claims about censorship- are you claiming that Democratic members of Congress and the Biden Administration haven't censored or requested censorship on Twitter and other social media? "
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Reporting tweets that break the terms of service is not censorship. Of course Trump, as president, demanded a tweet that was critical of him be taken down, which really is attempted government censorship, but I suspect you won't care about that.
@goaded: You're about to set yourself on fire with all those strawmen.
Every post of yours is dishonest. "Violations of terms of service" is complete BS, par for the course for you. They were illegally demanding censorship in violation of the First Amendment, including of an investigative journalist. But it's not surprising you're supportive of censorship. And it's a lot more serious than a few books being removed from a library's shelves.
But it wouldn't surprise me that you want to ignore books with sexual content or violence that ended up in public school libraries in Florida. One book "defined sex terminology including “rimming,” “scat,” “scissor sisters” and “strap-on.” Another book "depicts two characters attempting oral sex by using a strap-on. The book also depicts the characters sexting, masturbating and tasting themselves."
Real appropriate content for children, goaded. And don't forget that distributing pornographic content to minors is illegal under Florida law.
@Avicenna More lies? I thought you respected honesty.
No, reporting images of a naked person being put up on Twitter without their consent is not censorship. Especially if you haven't even been elected yet.
The White House demanding that they take down Chrissy Teigen's tweet calling President Donald Trump “a pussy ass bitch” is. Besides, both sides were making requests of Twitter to remove content.
As usual, the problem with Republican censorship of books in schools isn't that they found some that reasonable people could agree are objectionable, it's that they (you) use them as cover to get rid of anything they don't like, including factual books about the KKK, the Holocaust, slavery, anything to do with non-hetrosexual love, and for some unknown reason, childrens books that mention farts or butts.
I still don't see any hate in a drag story time that isn't coming from the assholes who want to ban them because they hate people being themselves or having fun.
@goaded: As usual, you're using the tactics that Russian and CCP intelligence agents use when propagandizing online- a tiny potential kernel of truth is dishonestly used to make false generalizations.
Trump complaining PUBLICLY about a tweet is in no way analogous to the systematic and heretofore secret specific demands and coordination between senior Democratic Party members of Congress and federal bureaucrats for censorship on social media, which you dishonestly attempt to make it look like it is bipartisan. The Twitter Files laid bare for everyone to see that the censorship is government-driven and is aimed at legal speech the Democrats do not like. Furthermore, the Twitter Files show that it's many governments involved in this censorship as well. But common sense would tell us that senior politicians aren't going to get involved with detecting alleged mere violations of "community standards", rather they are concerned with preventing messaging and the expression of opinions that conflict with their political narratives. And that, as we now know, is exactly what happened on COVID and other topics. You dishonestly try to pretend that isn't the case.
When you have had chances to condemn anti-Semitism, goaded, you have avoided doing so every time. What's more, you defended the burning of a synagogue in Germany by Palestinians, something that everyone would expect someone who goes around trying to call other people (without evidence) Holocaust deniers would be willing to condemn. But you wouldn't condemn it when asked to do so.
Your basis for calling another forum member a Holocaust denier was that he used reasoning on a completely different topic which you CLAIMED was similar to reasoning used by Holocaust deniers. It wasn't based on anything related to the topic of the Holocaust and he certainly didn't deny the Holocaust occurred. That is beyond dishonest.
Here, once again, you are up to more of the same tricks. You are bizarrely accusing the Jewish descendant of Jewish Holocaust survivors of trying to censor books on the Holocaust and the KKK based on the fact I don't want books with age-inappropriate sexual content in public school. libraries. And you falsely generalize that, without evidence, to an entire political party which has tens of millions of supporters- merely because you don't like the fact that those people hold different political views than your own extreme ones. And, by the way, one of my grandfathers was a slave laborer during WWII.
You have made it clear that you support books containing sexual content being made available in US public school libraries, and you say that it's reasonable to support that. That is an extreme view on your part, and you don't even live in the US. And you bizarrely claim that wanting to remove books with inappropriate content from public school libraries is something bad.
As for your beloved drag queens, once again, it's part of efforts to sexualize young children, which is age-inappropriate and not as you put it "fun", and certainly not about promoting literacy. If you can't handle people holding that reasonable position, you need to get therapy.
So, it a nutshell, we see once again that you are a dishonest propagandist with extreme views that wants to censor opposing opinions. You prove it regularly here on GAG. You have no boundaries either- you will even try to claim that a descendant of Holocaust survivors who is probably the only one combating anti-Semitism expressed here on GAG of being a Holocaust denier.
@Avicenna Maybe you should try putting at least a kernel of truth into your statements instead of just making shit up about me and deciding it must be true.
For example: "you dishonestly attempt to make it look like it is bipartisan"; do you think the government stopped dealing with Twitter while Trump was president? You have zero reason to believe Republicans weren't doing exactly the same things, which makes you the dishonest one, not me.
Trump didn't (just?) complain publically about being called a "pussy ass bitch", he had his staff try to get Twitter to take it down, despite the fact that the tweet didn't break the platform's terms of service.
"When you have had chances to condemn anti-Semitism, goaded, you have avoided doing so every time." Of course I'm against anti-Semitism, does it really need to be said? A good part of my extended family is Jewish.
You're referring to a conversation from months or even years ago, with someone who really did avoid answering a straight question. If I recall correctly, you didn't demand he give a straight answer. Find a link to it and we can re-visit it, if you like. I can also show you an even older link to a conversation I had with an unrepentant Holocaust denier.
Show me where I've accused you (I assume you're referring to yourself) "of trying to censor books on the Holocaust and the KKK". What I'm saying is that that is something that Republicans in certain places are doing, and that you're giving them cover by pretending that it's only pornography being banned when it's not.
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"you falsely generalize that, without evidence, to an entire political party"
You can't escape the fact that the people demanding books be removed from libraries are Republicans, nor that many of the books are being removed not because they're pornographic, but because they mention slavery, LGBT people or that children fart. Trying to ignore that is dishonest. Show me the Republican faction protesting against the removal of those books and I'll gladly give them credit.
Name one national Republican politician who's said taking Maus out of school libraries is a bad idea. I'll wait.
Another lie: "You have made it clear that you support books containing sexual content being made available in US public school libraries".
I think the choice of books should be left to the librarians and educators, not the demands of the most religious parents.
Another lie: "you bizarrely claim that wanting to remove books with inappropriate content from public school libraries is something bad."
I just said: "the problem with Republican censorship of books in schools isn't that they found some that reasonable people could agree are objectionable, it's that they (you) use them as cover to get rid of anything they don't like..."
This is just a mistaken opinion: "[drag queens are] part of efforts to sexualize young children"
It's not (what do you mean by sexualise, anyway?), it's an effort to show children that people come in all shapes and sizes and that they don't have to be afraid of people who are different. They'll probably be safer at drag queen story hour than in a church.
And, back to the lies: "you are a dishonest propagandist with extreme views that wants to censor opposing opinions."
I'll let everyone else decide for themselves, thank you very much. What do you think of the "opposing opinion" that drag story hour isn't a bad thing and parents should be allowed to take their children there if they want? Should they be allowed to?
@Avicenna Here's another major Republican groomer, to go with the earlier list: Ali Alexander Akbar asked 15 year old boys for naked pictures. twitter.com/.../1646532076139683841
It's the same amount, or less, but people in the US today (and maybe elsewhere) feel safer expressing it.
I think so. People are way more angrier than they were 15 years ago.
I would argue the hatred is more visible and seen today because of social media advancements and being more accessible. It is possible that it is still the same, just amplified through that medium.
I don't think so, it's always the same stuff going on. Maybe you're just spending more time on politics and news. I distance myself from it because I know it's toxic and leads to bad places.
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We've given it a voice behind the the safety of anonymity. In other words, not enough people are getting punched in the mouth for saying dumb shit anymore.
I don't know.. I think it is just the internet, because we can see everything now...
But a lot of things changed in 15 years...
Oh 100%.
I think we’ve grown into that generation space where everyone feels the need to fend for themselves.
You're "not allowed" to disagree with people anymore.
No. Just different hatred, is all.
White people can't go a decade without having someone new to hate.
No, not more, it's just more out in the open, mainly because of social media and 24-hiur instant news.
No, but I think with the expansion of the internet, those who have miserable lives have far more avenues to express their ignorance and frustrations.
Of course there is. That was the formation of the Triggered Tea Party.. *clutching pearls* Oh there is liberal black man in the White House.. WHO WORE A TAN SUIT! Oh my God! the Humanity! Obamacare is working too.. Sorry Trumpanzees!
People who have busy lives don't have time to hate. The media and the government throw gas on the fire to use whatever amount of racism there really is for their agenda. No race is superior to another.
It is probably about the same, but you see and read it more because of the internet these days. The internet has turned very toxic.
Definitely more hatred than 15, even 20 years ago. No tolerance, helicopter parenting, offended at a drop of a hat, even the politics have gone to the extremes on both sides.
More people are becoming more aware of the hatred. Of course the economy is getting worse and people become more irritable during hard times. So, it's really both that are true to say.
eh not any more than usual. just more social media to confirm it. i do hate everyone way more now tho, even back then i hated everyone.
Yes 15 years ago wasn’t as bad. It’s the worse it’s been since maybe a the 60s
It's not that there's MORE hatred, it's just that it more retarded now. As a bunch of people's lives have gotten materially better they've started getting upset about dumber and dumber shit.
Obama did his best to create racial strife in the US.
Not really. More tribalism becuase of the internet. But it’s the same shit just 24/7.
Either that, or we are all just more aware of it now
There's more overt or visible hatred, but the level is mostly the same.
Yes, that's the new world order's goal.
yeah because these millennials and boomers are fucked up in the head
I was 6. I definitely hate the world more now.
Yes and I blame the political system
Not at all. It's just a lot more public.
The media and the politicians are pushing it
Oh yea for sure
I mean, duh
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