What would happen if we found out the 2020 election was stolen?

[Stoner710]

Left winger go along with the hypothetical here. I think it would mean the end of democracy. It would mean no government system can be trusted.

[NaultD]

What was the interference proven by the law. Historically small town cults have contaminated local eateries with salmonella to make people too sick to vote and try to get mayorship or sheriff. We are going to need to see what the scope is to pursue this thought.

I remember al gore in his president run got a leak play book from bush jr campaign and didn't look at it and turn it to the FBI. So nothing happened to gore. So who did what and what connection did they have?

We did this with trump on the first impeachment. We know 3 close trump campaign personnel was in bed with Russia with a dozen Russian hackers creating the narrower election then then the 2020. Trump was exonerated by having no secret communication between the confirmed Russian agents and the asking for help was on public tv. The muller investigation was not a witch hunt and people went to jail from proper investigation work.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/OsvWg2FBnts

So what I'm seeing is a complete skill issue. 60 court cases and only needing a single piece of evidence with 50/50 probably of something somehow a bad thing happened that backwater woods town is more then capable of and don is incapable of.

So sleepy dementia patient joe is somehow also genius mastermind to other throw the government? We need some footing to start some logical thinking.

[WhiteSteve]

That would certainly shake my faith in the process, but to believe it, I would need substantial and irrefutable evidence that was validated by multiple court cases to know that the alleged facts hold up under intense adversarial scrutiny. I would still feel like the more the more righteous states agenda won out in this case, as I strongly oppose conservative social positions (more than that, I’m DISGUSTED by them, they shake my faith in the overall decency of humanity), but regardless of that, you don’t want the wins to come that way, because then the other guys you oppose can do it in the future, and the entire system is broken at that point.

Luckily, I’ve seen no persuasive evidence of such things in reality, and this was verified in 60+ courts of law, so I feel certain that none of that actually happened in this particular case.

[WhiteSteve]

*stated agenda

[kylee2437]

I don’t trust any government system regardless of the 2020 election. Politics is a scam and America built itself in a way that isn’t in the best interest of its people

[Stoner710]

Unfortunately true.

[Adaeva]

Even when they deny it, most everyone including democrats know the election was stolen. However, that changes nothing because politics rules.

[OfMiceandMen]

I think you are correct. The Constitution and Gettysburg Address are built on the premise of a democracy, a government for the people, by the people...

...that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth” (U. S. President Abraham Lincoln, November 19, 1863)

So, if government has been tainted/influenced by corrupt individuals, then it questions a nation's democracy/freedom.

[DryGermanGuy]

„… if it were stolen.“
Why do you even bother with these unrealistic fringe fantasies? The US-American election system is set up in a complexity where it can’t be stolen! All the audits, recounts and frivolous lawsuits confirmed that. MAGA/Qanon idiots are just that, idiots.

[Stoner710]

Because it’s an issue that’s been plaguing the Republican Party since the 2020 election. of course the lawsuits would say the election was legitimate. Especially with the potential consequences of them finding it was truly stolen. Like I said in the description it would mean the end of the country.

What do you think Democratic would’ve done if the courts reversed the election? More rioting and looting. 61% of the Republican Party believes that the election was stolen but you don’t see us rioting. Do you really think your average Democrat voter would just take the court ruling as as legitimate if it was reversed?

[DryGermanGuy]

Are you slow or something? I just explained that the checks and balances in the election system make it impossible to steal an election. Donald Trump tried it with fake electors, pressure phone calls and sicking a mob on Mike Pence and still he failed.

[tstarr17]

I think it's a fair question, basically, what if Trump was right and the election was stolen? Before I say anything else, I do NOT believe it was stolen. I am an independent, and I did vote for Trump, but Biden won fair and square. Trump has done things since my vote that honestly make me regret voting for him, but that's another story. For this scenario, let's say it did happen, and Trump actually was able to show undeniable evidence to the courts that many voter laws were broken and there was indeed ballot stuffing. It was also to the point where it completely overturns the election and Trump gets his 2nd term. Many election officials across the country face legal issues, receive face massive fines, and/or go to prison. There would also be a significant call to completely re-do the way the American vote, not only in presidential elections, but in mid-term and governor elections too, and Trump would have to make this part of his 2nd term agenda. Some people (not all) that voted for Biden would think Trump somehow rigged it so it favors him, and they would be rioting, like the night Trump won in 2016. It would be the only way to get people to trust the voting system in America.

Also, to the OP, yes, left wingers have rioted before, and they probably would've rioted again if Trump actually did win in 2020, but right wingers have done it too, like on January 6th. Both sides have their fair share of issues.

[Anonymous]

Nothing. In that situation the opposite side would speak endlessly about the cheating while the supporting side would deny it. Both sides would do this.

When Trump was elected the left blamed Russian interference, while the right denied it. When Biden was elected the right blamed fake votes while the left denied it. Both sides think that they were right because they’re biased toward their side.

[Dargil]

Most likely nothing. Republicans would (should) work to reduce voter fraud but ensure legal, registered voters have access to voting. However...

Look for renewed fake news of a new strain of COVID so they can pull the same shenanigans again.

[Stoner710]

True, I don’t think republicans states would lock down again for Covid but blue states and purple would.

[FunkyMonkee]

What makes you think they CAN be trusted, now?
Politics isn't my game so, I don't know what would happen but,. I would HOPE that they'd drop-kick Biden's ass out of the White House and put Trump back in where he rightfully belongs because he WAS cheated!! And then, allow him to have another FULL term!!

[NamerOfStars]

If a stolen election means "the end of democracy", then 2020's would be meaningless, as it already would've ended in 2000. Arguably, 1876, if you take a less charitable view of that election.

[richardcory]

It would be very ugly. Its why I think we need laws written now to deal with the situation in the future so at least there is a plan if it happens.

[Stoner710]

I don’t think that’s possible on the west coast. We’re pretty blue over here and won’t go along with election laws red states put in. California Oregon and washington would still be a hot bed for voter fraud regardless of what the federal government says

[richardcory]

Has any study found enough voter fraud to matter? The individual state elections boards seem to think its minimal

[Stoner710]

was some shit found mainly in Kentucky. 100 ballots were found dumped on the side of the road. It’s possible it happened in other states fortunately or unfortunately it was never found.

[Googlemyahoo]

Not like you guys have the best selection lol. Pedophile fat orange fuck or pedophile with Alzheimer’s

[exitseven]

Everyone knew that two years ago. You just gotta keep up.

[AngryCarl2]

So was the 2000 election. What happened about that? That's right, nothing.

[Stoner710]

We were less polarized in the 2000 election than 2020. More willing to except shenanigans back in 2000 than in 2020 right now in 2023 about ready to rip each other‘s throat out.

[AngryCarl2]

Okay but democracy doesn't end with one or two dodgy elections. You just have to fix it.

[Stoner710]

It can when you have this much polarization and nobody trusting elections. The last election we trusted was in 2012 be trusted 2008 and 2004 so within the last 23 years, we trust half of our elections, and both sides have gotten more and more extreme.

[gorydetails]

They wouldn't care because they got rid of Trump. The only thing that matters to them is Democrats staying in power.

[Pterodon]

It would be a major revolution. A civil war and the left wouldn’t stand a chance