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What we've had for the last 3 years is a complete shit show! Biden and his family are a complete disgrace.
We all said that when he was at the South Carolina primary in 2019 but everyone laughed at us. One day soon the news media is suddenly going to be told to switch to Michelle Obama for 2024 and we'll all be told we hate Joe Biden and everyone will blindly go along with it. If you don't believe me, just save this comment and watch it happen.
People get the gvernment that they vote for. Everyone knew what he was but they voted for him anyway.
Oh really? Can you name one thing that you think he did that was childish?
You're a funny guy. Did I say anything about childish behavior?
"Moral", is the key word.
Okay, then. Kamala constantly laughing like a school girl is childish. Biden's little temper tantrums when asked a question he doesn't like is childish. Is that good enough for you?
Not really. I do not care if someone is laughing like a school girl. That has nothing to do with morals. As for Biden having temper tantrums? From what I have seen as examples of this I think they are reasonable examples of where an adult would display aggressive emotions. Furthermore, I do not see either of this as interfering with the duties carried out by the white house.
This is just sounding like when Republicans became super upset over Obama having the "wrong color" on his suit. Please provide something of substance.
Lol!! Yeah, "I bet I can do more push ups than you! Wanna have a push up contest? Come on man"! How about threatening to kick that coal miners ass? Or saying he'd take Trump behind the school house and whip him? That is the ipitime of childish behavior! As far as carrying out duties? If you think Biden is running this country, you are dumber than I thought. Also, as soon as someone says, "provide something of substance", let's me know they're beginning to grasp at paper straws, because people like you are afraid of plastic. I can't take you serious.
No idea what you are talking about quite frankly. For example, when Biden responded with a pushup challenge it was already not a serious conversation so its completely fine to respond with something ridiculous in return. Stupid questions (or accusations) deserve stupid answers.
As for the quote about Biden taking Trump behind the gym, that is also an understandable response given the context:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UilzDRQXES4
It is not childish to be intolerant towards sexual harassment and I fully support things such as punching nazis. If we go back towards what you said at the start, about "Moral adults", what you are criticizing Biden for here is having a set of morals he believe in. Where is your consistency?
Also, I am fully aware of what the president do and does not do.
As for grasping at straws? Putting aside your pathetic attempts to use examples of inconsequential language to support your claims of Biden being unsuitable for office, what I want from you is something of substance. I want you to point towards something that actually matters, of Biden doing something childish in his capacity as president that actually negatively impacts the country.
The very definition of you taking this conversation seriously would be if you actually brought something of substance. Until then, this is as pointless as a kindergarten argument. Nothing you have said so far has any actual meaning behind it.
Wow! He challenges people to do a push up challenge, threatens to beat people up on a regular basis, lashes out at reporters for asking questions he doesn't like, says things like, "I've said too much already. I get in trouble when I go off script", can't find his way off stage, shakes hands with people that aren't there, can't make dinner because he's "too tired" from his busy work schedule, after he just had a 3 day vacation, mumbles, slurs and forgets on a routine basis when speaking and your comeback is? Dah, um I don't dah, blame him when, umm dah it's a stupid dah question"? Are you fucking kidding me? If this is what you think a coherent adult is, you are fucking crazy or are so far left, you're about to fall off the flat earth! Lol You talk about substance? You're kidding yourself.
@Wallythewalrus this guy likes to write novels and tries to be a real intellectual but says absolutely nothing. Claiming not to have substance is not defending your argument. It's a diversion tactic. See, you really can't defend Biden's behavior with any reasonable way. You might be the last person in America that thinks Biden is competent.
@Wallythewalrus Putting aside how I already addressed all of that, tell me why I should care? Even if all of that is true and as bad as you make it out to be, why should I assume that impacts his ability to function as the president?
This is something I never understood with you people. I care about substance. If a random president was doing a good job in his position then I do not care if he is an alcoholic or if he yells rude words at press people. That does not make him a worse president by itself. Point me towards something that actually matters, like how Trump went to golf clubs just short of 300 times during his 4 years in office not to mention every other time he refused to do his job. Something like that actually interferes with his ability to do his job, to be the president. That is substance, not this bullshit about Biden being rude towards some asshole that was spouting bullshit to his face and wasting his time.
He cannot answer questions the way he would like to. He says he has to "stay on script" or "they get mad" at him. Lol... yeah, that sounds like a competent leader. Besides, don't try to convince me he's fit for the job, you need to convince his own base. Have you seen the polls? Or are you just so much smarter than everybody.
@Wallythewalrus His defense of Biden acting childish, is the conversation or questions were supposedly not serious enough? That is what being the adult in the room is about! Maybe I'm wrong but I think stooping to someone's childish behavior is in itself, childish.
I don't even care about supposed "childish behavior". Just don't tell me he's fit for office! No one believes that. "God save the Queen"! Lol Yeah, he's got it all together.
@Wallythewalrus Wtf? Leaders prepare for public speaking. Part of that process is getting advisors and even speech writers and together they plan out responses and speeches as well as attempt to predict what other people will say so that they can have a response ready.
This is literally part of their job. Sure, they can improvise at times but that does not mean that they dont have a prepared speech or response at hand and of course the people who help them prepare the speech or plan the strategy will be annoyed if you do not follow their plan and throw their months of hard work into the trash.
Is this not obvious to people?
@asker No. My "defense" of Biden is pointing out that you wanted a "moral adult" in the white house which implies that this should be about running the country and not meaningless bullshit that does not have any effect on their ability to perform the duty of their office.
Otherwise your claim that you want a "moral adult" in the white house would be the same as saying that you want someone with a different taste in music in the office which would just make you out to be a moron.
You give me one example of a president saying they're not allowed to actually answer a question the way they would like to? That they will "get in trouble". And this happens repeatedly. Show me an example of a staff member literally dragging a president away, preventing him from speaking with the public and press? In a real administration, that person would have been fired. I know you know he is not fit to be president but are conditioned to defend him. I also see you aren't American, so obviously you haven't completely witnessed his obvious decline first hand. Also, did you happen to take a look at any US polls, as far as people's confidence in him and his fitness for office? You see, these are people that see this shit show every day and a HUGE number of them that have lost faith in him were big supporters.
@Wallythewalrus I wouldn’t take what wallythewalrus says seriously. It’s AI generated word salad.
For example it said “you’re so far left you’d fall off the face of the planet” clearly this nonsensical thing, isn’t aware that the earth is round and not flat.
@ChefPapiChulo, The big boys are talking. Go ask a question on, "How do I look", about your sexy baboon ass lips or maybe "Fashion and beauty". You can ask what color to paint your nails. Those topics are geared for you. Give your mommy a kiss for me tonight.
@Wallythewalrus It was clear that Biden was not being serious when he said he was going to get into trouble for not following the previously agreed upon strategy that he and his aids came up with. Its like a husband saying he will get into trouble with his wife for getting an icecream by himself, its not supposed to be taken seriously.
And if you want an example of staffers acting to prevent the president from doing stupid stuff in public then sure I can oblige; Donald Trump notoriously had internal disagreements with his staff who tried to prevent him from using his phone to tweet all the time because it went against their strategy and was hurting him politically.
I am also not American, as you pointed out, and I am actively watching the collapse of USA, as I have been pointing out for basically my entire time on this website. The difference between you and me is that I recognize that this collapse has been happening since at least 1981 when you idiots elected Ronald Reagan. I mean, you could make the argument that it goes back further than that but its good enough.
Point is, USA is in a death spiral of your own making and no one, not Democrats nor Republicans are doing much to save yourself. Republicans are actively setting fire to the plane while the best Biden is doing is just trying to stop the situation from accelerating even more. At no point is anyone trying to get the plane on course again.
And I find that fucking hilarious personally. So yeah, Biden is not your savior even if he is the best of a bad bunch but the fact that you are trying to get Trump back in is insanity.
Well, I don't know if he was joking, but apparently you do? That is a nice opinion to have but that is just an opinion. The facts are, that he has said it REPEATEDLY! No other president has ever said they are limited as to what they can say. You know why? Because that means they are either compromised or not actually running the show. I notice you keep bring up Trump. Lol we're not talking about Trump or the supposed demise of the US! But of course that's why you will defend Biden to the death. A weak incapable president, means a weak US, which benifits insignificant European countries like yours. You basically just said as much. You really need to stay on topic but you basically just said Biden isn't fit for the job by constantly diverting the conversation to what YOU wanna talk about.
@Wallythewalrus Its pretty much an insider joke among all politicians that their staff members are slave driving control freaks. It is even something that can make both sides annoyed at each other such as the case with Donald Trump where he wanted to just do whatever and his staff desperately tried to get him to follow scripts and listen to their strategy resulting in both probably hating the other.
But I think you have a complete misunderstanding of how this works. Being a president and speaking in public is not a one man show. It is a team effort with many people assisting to make the president both avoid public fuckups but also communicate effectively. For example if they know who else will be there such as what reporter or maybe even political rival then there will be staffers who research them to see how to deal with them or what to expect from them. There are staffers that plans out what strategy they are going to employ both now and months into the future. There are staffers that work with the president to craft his speeches so that they effectively communicate their values and whatnot.
Of course, the president always has the option to just ignore everything they advice him on such as what Trump did but that ends poorly like for example when Trump rambles incoherently and nobody has any fucking idea about what he is talking about.
At the end of the day no president (not even Donald Trump) handles public speaking by themselves and if they did then they would be bumbling idiots on live TV. Besides, their job is supposed to be being the "President" and not waste their time writing speeches all day.
I know how politics work. I know all about speech writing, talking points, debate prep, bullet points blah blah. I also know, that at no time do you even joke, in Biden's case repeatedly, about being in any way constrained in what you can and can't say. It shows a complete lack of leadership and competance. When Biden says shit like that no one thinks it's funny! It's actually alarming. Also, I guarantee, nobody is more pissed off when he says shit like that than his staff. Have you looked at his polling yet? The vast majority of Americans are on my side. Like I said, they have seen his obvious decline by the week. You only see what your liberal loving press decides to show you.
So far your only defense is you think he's joking. Whether he's joking or not, strong leaders don't say they'll get in trouble, or "they'll get mad at me", if I say what I actually mean. Last year Biden was asked if he would defend Taiwan if China invaded. Biden said "yes". Suddenly staffers started walking it back but Biden doubled down and said he would. That's leadership! Saying I can't say what I'm thinking or I get in trouble is weekness and also lacks accountability. Also, stop trying to bring Trump into it! You want me to start defending Trump, so our conversation will be about him. All that tells me is you can't honestly say you think Biden is a strong, fit leader, so wanna compare him to Trump. Not gonna happen! Stay focused and on topic.
@asker What are you talking about? Comedy is a powerful tool when speaking to the public. That includes jabs at coworkers and even against yourself. It is a very powerful tool which can among other things make you more likable and appear more human rather than a talking head on the TV.
Also, of course his staff does not like when he goes off script and begins to joke around. As explained previously, they are control freaks and they are very rarely actually happy with a performance. It is important to point out however that they are just one part of a presidents public speaking and should not be in control of everything in the first place so a good public speaker regularly upsets his staffers like Biden does.
Not saying Biden is particularly good at public speaking, I personally find him boring and uncharismatic, but that is besides the point.
Also yes, I have seen the polls lately and they tell me that in an election Biden would win. Mostly because his opponents are so dogshit rather than any stellar performance on the part of Biden. As the saying goes, "can't win a republican primary without Trump, can't win a general election with Trump." Every candidate that could easily beat Biden will lose to Trump and the one Republican candidate that Biden has a good chance against is Trump himself.
Very convenient that.
@Wallythewalrus Public speaking is an artform. You can say whatever the fuck you want as long as you can swing it. There are no silly rules of what you can and can't do.
As for Taiwan, that situation is special because of the diplomatic clusterfuck between China, USA and Taiwan. Strictly speaking, USA is not even supposed to acknowledge that Taiwan exists, much less promise to defend it openly. That is something you tell China privately when the press is not listening.
As for why this is the case, both of us would need a masterclass in national diplomacy to understand one of the most retarded and complex diplomatic situation in human history. Bumbling in and playing the "strong man" is playing into the hands of the Chinese rather than giving USA a stronger position. I hope you realize that.
@soteris I don't know if you read any of that conversation between @wallythewalrus and that Chef guy but I apologize. I do respect all opinions but do not like profanity. We were actually having, what I thought was a good, spirited debate! @wallythewalrus, let's keep it that way!
@Wallythewalrus I know who he is. You two carry on, I'm going to bed. Maybe I'll respond tomorrow, maybe I won't. Have a good night.
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No? Did you even hear the guy speak? How did you guys elect him thinking you were going have a coherent, moral adult?
The man shakes hands with ghosts for crying out loud.
Because they've done what? Actually help people. Trump only hurt people
Yeah, giving away our energy to make other countries rich sure helps the little guy. Opening the borders to flood this country with unvetted illegals that are an unbelievable drain on local and state resources sure has helped me out. Or maybe that's what you mean by "helping people"? Helping illegals?
If Trump is el;ected, you are going to wish you had Biden back.
This question isn't about Trump. It's about the current administration.
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