Do you question Settled Science or what the government tells you?

[Drewtate]

[Exterminatore]

It depends. For something to be considered true in regard to science the scientific method must be used.


This means a hypothesis is formed, experiments are conducted and the results must be repeatable for the hypothesis to be correct. If you have a hypothesis and you conduct experiments and the results are continually repeatable, then we can reasonably conclude the hypothesis is correct. Without being able to do this, all you have is a hypothesis or a theory that can’t be factually proven. A theory is then subject to opinion and scrutiny.


In cases where the results are repeated verifying the hypothesis I don’t really question the science…that is assuming what we are being told is legit. That information is not being withheld, that there is no spin or political agenda in regards to the science.


For example, we know genes determine sex. Suddenly, due to the tranny agenda, everyone wants to question this. I’ve even seen school textbooks stating that more research is needed into what determines sex. That is nonsense being used to fit an agenda.


Same with everything surrounding Covid. “The science has changed.” No, your hypothesis was incorrect and you did not have repeatable results. The science didn’t change, the narrative did.


In some of the examples you cited here, for example with the lobotomy. The science didn’t change. It was simply decided preforming those was the best and most ethical way to treat the mentally ill. Clearly there should have been objections from the start. The problem wasn’t the science or that it changed, but rather if it was ethical or not to perform those procedures.


As stated there are issues with propaganda and agendas in relation to what is presented as science and how that that science is employed.


So the issue as I see it is not so much one of science but rather one of whom is telling us what is or is not science, factual, and if they’re telling us the truth.


At this point I have little if any trust and faith in any of the the worlds various governments. I believe undoubtedly they will lie to us and conceal pertinent facts about literally anything, science or not. So questioning anything any government tells you is probably a good idea.

[goaded]

You don't necessarily have to have repeatable experiments to prove an hypothesis, it does need to explain all existing evidence and not be disproved by future evidence. You can't repeat billions of years of evolution, but you can keep gathering data and find that it confirms or only slightly modifies previous findings (like Hippos being more closely related to pigs than whales, as previously thought).

Maybe the genes do determine sex, but do your genitals determine who you are, or does your brain?

Yes, the "science changed" with covid, because there was always more information. One idiot once asked me on here specifically what more we would know about it in six months time. The science is always the best approximation to reality at the time.

[Exterminatore]

It’s funny you bring up evolution. I do not believe in Darwinian evolution for a number of reasons. I believe God’s account of creation, for which there is massive scientific evidence to support, but that evidence is suppressed. I also don’t believe it because it can in fact be repeated. They’re looking for the missing link still. Just one. They have yet to find one because it’s a fairy tale. If there’s at least one, there will be more, yet they can’t even find one and never will.

You do have for example, trout. There are brown trout, rainbow trout, steelhead trout, brook trout. All trout, and all fish. I do believe in that type of evolution, yet never do we have in the fossil record a fish even becoming an entirely new species. Therefore, there is no change in kind observable anywhere in the fossil record. So the theory of evolution is just that. Theory. Theory taught as absolute fact and anyone speaking out against it is ostracized from the scientific community and silenced.

Yes. Genitals, hormones, bone structure, muscle mass, neurology. They all confirm sex. One’s brain telling them they are something else is either mental illness or extreme sexual perversion. I believe it to be the latter. Suddenly we have all these gender confused people in society. This has never been. Transsexuality was openly excepted in much of the ancient world and among many non white cultures, yet amongst those and in those times the numbers were very low.

The science changed with Covid because it was scam. The illness certainly exists. I can show you interview after interview after interviews of both Fauci and Hostes (incorrect spelling) continually contradicting themselves. In fact Sen. Rand Paul is pushing to have charges brought against Fauci for perjury because he in fact lied to Congress.

So science doesn’t change when don’t properly. However it does change when we’re dealing with political narratives and agendas.

[goaded]

Sorry, but "I do not believe in Darwinian evolution for a number of reasons." is where I stop the conversation.

[Exterminatore]

Fair enough. I respect your right to be willfully ignorant.

[goaded]

Darwin wasn't perfect, but the idea was, as proven by 150 years of scientific investigation.

[Exterminatore]

Nope. There is no proof. The whole theory rests on the missing link which is still missing and forever will be because it’s a fairy tale. Along with the Big Bang Theory. Yet another Theory taught as absolute fact with no actual proof. Just theory as evidence.

[exitseven]

Settled science is BS.. it is just what liberals say when they want you to believe some crackpot idea that they cannot prove or even substantiate. They just call it settled science with the hope that nobody will question them. Then the fake news repeats it and suddenly they gave gotten away with the scam

[Mansearching]

Conservatives do same. They think the crackpot idea is Reagan nomics works. It doesn't. When I was young we were almost homeless due to that. So it doesn't work and they want to go back to it.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I prefer settled science

[RavVid]

Settled Science = Climate Change = an attempt to convince people by saying it is Settled Science loudly.

My view is that a huge disservice has been done to the cause these people espouse, by claiming Settled Science or the Consensus. Even more damage by hammering 'renewables' which are clearly inadequate.

Small modular nuclear power would have solved the issue but oh no it had to wind power didn't. The Espousers have buggared it all up.

[gorydetails]

When you censor all dissenting opinions then claim "there's a consensus!" that's when you know it's off the rails.

[Drewtate]

I agree.

[NamerOfStars]

Fairness, now- Galileo was the denier. Geocentrists pointed out, quite logically, that if the Earth orbited the sun, there would be parallax shift in the stars- and there observably wasn't.

[Sharkstealth]

Everything changes even history. In fact even English writing because now you use one space instead of two behind the period.

[RealMarek]

After government became the primary funding source for science, it was only a matter of time before science became “Science” and was not to be questioned.

[VforVindication]

Yes, all the time. I actually think they lie to us more than they tell the truth.

[OddBeMe]

I think we all do. Even scientists. If a scientist can prove settled science is wrong…oh the money and pussy.

[Christoff92]

I would question it.