Do you think feminism has pitted men and women against each other?

[Pegases]

I think this is a complex topic. On the one end, feminism began as a movement that was absolutely needed. But on the other, most feminists I've encountered today, secretly hate men, and use what feminism used to stand for, to hide it. I think its increasingly tougher to hold these kinds of toxic women accountable for this reason. What do you think. Has feminism gone too far?

[AlbantheGreat]

I think it's a conjonction of two phenomenas: the rise of powerful women and the fact the radical American feminism is probably the most misandrist (hates and despises men) of all radical feminisms.

The American feminism is pretty honest: it's called women's rights. So the feminism is for the rights of women, since the beginning. Even if the official definition is about equality between men and women, it was because women had disadvantages. So, if the mean is the equality, the end has always been about the interest of women.

And all the feminist waves were about women: the first was about the right of women to vote, the second about the work, the third about minorities, the fourth about sexual violences.

But no all violences: the female victims of violence. Believe the victims, female victims, but not always male victims, right? The Depp versus Heard case is an example of that mindset.

For a long time, there was an ambiguity among feminists: those who were equalists, and those I would call the female supremacists.

Now, many women have power, female supremacists have also the power. And many things that happened since years were, I think, a power struggle between these female supremacists and other upper-class people. And female supremacism was never about helping men.

I think that kind of feminism is pretty common among the West.

What's changing in America is that its radical feminism is powerful, more powerful than in my country. It began with women like Valerie Solanas, which wrote the Scum Manifesto, in 1967. That book is about how men are despicable, are the enemy, and shoul be killed. I think that kind of book infused the American feminism, even if it infuses also the french feminism now (I was in a feminist library, and the Scum manifesto could be bought).

[Pegases]

Thanks for sharing that.

[AlbantheGreat]

You're welcome.

[DopeTurtle]

In regards to this question? Yes.


I do agree there was significant improvement to society within that philosophy/ movement but just like any tool/ organization, there are people who shouldn’t be in the midst of something so significant. I’m referring to those toxic people who didn’t care about developing a more balanced society but more focused on revenge. The media and the social media fanned the flames instead of leaving room for nuance and healthy conversations.


These actions gave an avenue for red pill and other form of sexist/ misogynistic behavior to grow as an act of “ defiance” towards the mainstream agenda. So it’s hurt people hurting other people which creates an endless cycle of hatred.


The conversation is now balancing out as we root out the radicals/ toxic elements from being a main voice without opposition.

[DopeTurtle]

Thanks for mho

[DextroShade]

Absolutely it has and it's been a complete disaster that has caused wages, birthrates, and families to decline while loneliness and suicide have skyrocketed. Women are now the most miserable they have ever been. Society didn't have these problems before feminism.

[Spongebobssocks]

Yes it has. It has even brought women against each other. It shames women for being feminine and hates men for being masculine. It's not good at all

[SaltyBeaches]

I agree with you.

[Spongebobssocks]

@SaltyBeaches glad you do!:)

[SaltyBeaches]

:) :)

[artgorgeous]

I think feminism has pitted women against each other.

[Pegases]

Interesting. why do you say that?

[artgorgeous]

Because there are feminist women who basically want everything men have (i call them passive FTM transgenders), and there are regular women who are ok being a regular women. By promoting feminist harmful ideology to the rest of normal women, they become more confused (i don't need no man, i am independent, i have education, i can fuck any amount of men i want, men are useless, bla bla) therefore making normal women to demand men to correspond to more unrealistic and unachievable standards, which shrinks the population of available men having such standards. Less men are available -> less women are happy because its harder for them to find themselves a man. Women need to stop listening to this harmful ideology, calm down and lower the plank. They eventually realize this by the age of 30-35, but its too late for them.

[artgorgeous]

In short, its more difficult for women to copmete against each other now to get perfect men, because perfect men are more scarce.

[SaltyBeaches]

Yes it absolutely has. I'm speaking of modern feminism, not original feminism of years ago. Modern feminism has done a lot of harm to gender relations.

[JackCarter]

Yes, Pseudo Feminism is a cancer just like Male Chauvinism

[Dargil]

Feminism relies on useful idiot men to protect it. I agree that was needed go gain woman suffrage and rights protection. The Schumer is about to hit the fan economically and socially and the Feminist rats nest will disappear almost over night.

[KrakenAttackin]

Absolutely. Men and women are supposed to COMPLIMENT one another, not compete with each other. Both genders are much happier when they stay in their natural feminine and masculine.

[Snakeyes7]

It has always done that.