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How did the Roman Empire win the war against Carthage?

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How did the Roman Empire win the war against Carthage?
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    1st one they reversed engineered carthaginean warships and mass production techniques and to overcome the superiority of carthage's naval skill over the Roman navy they invented a boarding device and techniques that turned naval battles jnto land battles where roman infantry had the advantage.

    In 2nd war after massive defeats by hannibal they got absolutely ruthless employing a strategy of denying handball battle and scorched earth so hanibal couldn't get the resources he needed to raise new troops or get food for his army and using cavalry to hit and run carthages camps in Italy. They also used diplomacy to stop the Alexanderian successor states and Greek cities from allying with hanibal. The Romans did this to hanibal for 15 years, weakening his army, trapping it in Italy while conquering carthage territory in Spain and then invading carthage in North Africa so hanibal had to return to defend it. Carthage preferred to employ mercenaries over carthage citizens so the Romans bought up the best mercenaries like the Numibian cavalry & elephants. Hanibal was a great general but he made a mistake thinking that after he bested the Romans in battle that they would simply give up. Hanibal went on to serve as an advisor to some of the Alexanderian successor states that would later war and be conquered be Rome.

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    As I guess you'll know they tried and tried again and didn't accept failure. It was really innovative of them to train rowers on land. Plus innovate with a draw bridge (forget the correct name) to smack down on a Carthage ship so they could better use their land fighting skills. I do wonder how they disengaged the drawbridge if they had spikes at the end as I have seen drawn or how they bridged if they didn't.

    I seem to remember the Carthaginians had a kit based approach to building ships and Rome got or deduced the Ikea plans. Therefore they were able to short cut the ship advantage out. (I may be confusing with the venetian ship factories).

    But I think the primary reason has to be no matter how severe the defeats were they still could recruit another army. Cannae was a huge loss of the officer class and probably the NCO (centurian) class but they soon had another army in the field. That has to mean the ordinary Roman citizens were very willing to die for Rome and that has to be their biggest advantage.

    However the third Punic war destroyed the Roman Republic and it's base the stalwart Roman farmer. They came back to find they didn't have farms any more. Sad. It is one off the big what-if's I think. Rome never found a good way to handle succession in the empire period. Had Rome kept a functional republic and not outsourced it's army, might the Western Empire lasted much longer?

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      Listen to podcasts going to sleep and the next on happed to be punic wars. It seems Romans copying ships was wrong and the drawbridge was doubtful. One of the points made was lines of communication to Sicily made it difficult compared with Romans.

      Carthage hiring mercenaries put them at a disadvantage because they rebelled went not paid.

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    Weren't there 3 wars? I'm guessing they just killed more people than the carthagens.

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    • Julie4
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      If 3 wars, but for reasons of simplification, I prefer to reduce these 3 in one.

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    • purplepoppy
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      I've recently learned that there's competing ideas to why the Romans called Africa Africa. The afri bit can refer to dust, caves or possibly a tribe depending on different languages at the time.

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    • Julie4
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      Oh interesting

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    I don’t know 🤷‍♀️, not really as smart as you

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    As I understand for the first war they were fairly evenly matched, maybe Rome had better tactics that payed off in the naval battle.
    In the second war Hannable invaded Italy and did a lot of damage to the Roman heartland but too many resources were spent attacking and not defending so when Rome invaded Carthage they were pretty defenseless.
    In the third war Rome was so much bigger they they easily destroyed Carthage.

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      I've just bought a book on the various wars of the Roman Empire written by one of the best French specialists on the Roman Empire and he devotes a huge chapter to the Punic Wars. I can't wait to read the chapter, but I've got just over 700 pages to go.

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    • RyanEC
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      Wow.

      How big is the book.

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    Determination, innovation, superb training and best technology.

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    The Carthage army was very tired from previous wars and Scipio was well prepared for this war.

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      And I think Hannibal giving up on entering Rome is the turning point of everything.

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    • Drewtate
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      I agree but also possible that hanibal lacked the resources to attack Rome itself.

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    Eh... their days were numbered once the Romans figured out how to replicate their ships.

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    Which one?

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