Should Israel be punished for its crimes against humanity?

[OddBeMe]

“Get out or die.”

It’s ironic Israelis are not more sensitive to this…but they are forcing mass deportations in Gaza. And The Hague calls that a Crime. There’s just no one who cares to enforce it upon them.

Like 9/11, just because they were viciously and illegally attacked doesn’t give them carte blanche immunity to commit crimes against humanity.

Yes, Israel face consequences

No they’re above the law

[ObscuredBeyond]

It's appalling that the most viscous attacks I've faced for posting this image on Facebook, came from Evangelicals that have no excuse at this point for turning a blind eye to Netanyahu's crimes!

Anyone who remembers this image, already knows Islamic terror groups are evil and insane. That much is indisputable. But to act like Mossad doesn't also commit atrocities, isn't fascist, and isn't racist, is to simply be wearing earplugs and a blindfold.

[OddBeMe]

Thank you! We can be appalled by Hamas and still expect Israel not kill little children.

[Anonymous]

No, they need to wipe out Palestine altogether

Of course the liberals are crying because they're terrorist sympathizers so when terrorists get what they give out, the liberals cry
I think depopulation is needed and liberals should make the cut along with all their terrorist friend

[OddBeMe]

Maybe we’re crying over dead children in the streets. Something right wingers never care about. Unless it’s a fetus.

[Opinion Owner]

Yeah right wingers do that, I'm not one of them I can see the global chronic overpopulation and think separating the genders up to knock the birthrate out for a good while would be beneficial say 10, 20 or even 50 years maybe

[Anonymous]

Every nation has the right to defend itself when under attack. Should Ukraine be punished?

[OddBeMe]

When they do war crimes, yes.

[Opinion Owner]

They are being attacked just like Israel

[OddBeMe]

Totally agreed. But Ukraine should not kill innocent civilians and neither should Israel.

And by the way, neither should we…which is the US army drones bombed en masse

[Opinion Owner]

How should they do it when hamas launches missiles off hospital roofs? Should they send their own civilians in to get killed? Bear in mind that most Israeli soldiers are actually civilians drafted into the army.

[OddBeMe]

So you’re saying bomb the hospital and kill all the people inside?

Sorry, you send in special forces to take down the launch sites. That’s the responsible thing to do.

Our police doesn’t bomb a school when there’s a school shooter. Lol

[Opinion Owner]

Are you saying allow the hospital to be used as a launch pad for missiles to blow up your hospitals?
So send your special forces to get slaughtered into a fortified position with machine gun nests, IEDs and thousands of enemy combatants for the exact same result?
The police don't have to deal with thousands of terrorists armed with RPGs and heavy machines guns. School shooters are generally one guy with no military training.
Should the 8th airforce have dropped thousands of paratroops into German cities to stop the production of V1& V2 rockets or just flattened the entire city with all its factories?

[OddBeMe]

So hamas is so good it’ll slaughter special forces soldiers? No. Read up on military history with hostage situations. Mossad. The French Legion…. Seal Team 6.

If Israel asked the US to secretly send Seal team 6 here to rescue their hostages we woulda done it. Instead they just started carpet bombing.

[DaisyM23]

yeah they SHOULD but it's a different question to if they WILL

[Drewtate]

Every country has the right to defend itself

[Sevenpointfive]

you say that like it means something. israel in general will face consequences? a fine and sanctions? is that really punishment?

[Lottifan]

No way.

[OddBeMe]

Israel is attacking Gaza, not Hamas. The 1600 dead Palestinians are mostly civilians. Not terrorists. Now Israel is forcibly deporting Arabs out of Gaza. BECAUSE THEY WANT THE LAND.

History repeating. Lebensraum.

[Lottifan]

Boo Hoo.
My heart bleeds.
Who let Hamas in in the first place if not the Palestinians.

[OddBeMe]

You think Palestinians had a choice? Even if they “let” them in, that’s not worth a death sentence.

[OddBeMe]

When did you fcks get so brutal?

[Lottifan]

@OddBeMe
The Palestinians are no different to Hamas.

[OddBeMe]

And that’s how Hitler felt. “Russian children are no different from Soviet soldiers.”

“Harden your hearts and exterminate the subhumans.”

[Anonymous]

Let it go. You don't even care. You sound like that nutjob that's in therapy over Trump.

[OddBeMe]

You mean the leading candidate of the Republican Party for President of the United States? That Trump?

[Opinion Owner]

No, the nutjob on this site that rocks in the fetal position over Trump.

[OddBeMe]

If I rock in the fetal position it’s because Trump is five times indicted, found guilty of sexual assault…AND his popularity only rises on the right.

That makes me worry.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not talking about you. Pay attention.

[OddBeMe]

Pretty sure that is me you’re taking about.

[DarkLegacy]

Biased question, i can see you are a terrorist sympathy.

[OddBeMe]

I’m not. I hate criminality and taking innocent lives. Israel had my sympathies until it took 1600+ Palestinian lives. Few if any actual terrorists. Many many children.

[DarkLegacy]

Well done Israel

[Lottifan]

@OddBeMe
They’ve stopped 1600 new terrorists so why should we give a damn.

[DarkLegacy]

@Lottifan Hamas are terrorists anyway

[Lottifan]

@DarkLegacy
I know Hamas are terrorists.

[DarkLegacy]

@Lottifan This guy does not, he is defending them

[OddBeMe]

@Lottifan they made 1600 family members think about joining Hamas out of hate you dumb FUCK.

[OddBeMe]

Sorry about dumb fuck. It gets maddening seeing dead children’s bodies in the streets.

[OddBeMe]

You guys are horrible people though. How many children have died in Gaza?

[Lottifan]

@OddBeMe
As far as I’m concerned not enough

[msc545]

Nobody is going to enforce anything against the Israelis because their allied with the United States and the United States will not permit that.

[OddBeMe]

Why?

[Juxtapose]

Are you going to punish the USA for nuking Japan and killing civilians?

[OddBeMe]

We should. That was probably a war crime. Same for bombing Dresden.

But you seem to be using this to “allow” Israel to kill innocent civilians. Just because we did it in 1945. Sorry logic is the same.

[Juxtapose]

I would have also nuked Japan. A ground invasion would have resulted in many more lives lost especially since the Japanese tend to fight to the last man and engage in total warfare.

[OddBeMe]

Arguable. What ifs in history are no-no’s for a reason. But there is an argument that because Japan didn't surrender even after the second nuke, only when the Soviets invaded Manchuria and Mongolia…that’s when the Emperor said it was over. And there was even an attempted coup against the emperor with gunshots in the throne room.

[Juxtapose]

That is what is straight up said in the history books I read during high school and it holds up. The Japanese would hold locations until they succeeded or they ALL died.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah written by American exceptionalists. Try Howard Zinn, People’s History of the US.

Again we can’t know what the emperor or his supporters thought when deciding to surrender. But we’ve been carpet bombing Japan like Dresden. So a single nuke didn’t really make a huge diff.

[Juxtapose]

Poisoning people's land with radiation tends to give them pause because of how many generations of people must suffer. It was the first bomb of its kind.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah but we tested it and knew about the radiation. Maybe not the affects on people as that woulda been a disturbing experiment. But they knew what effects radiation usually has,

[OddBeMe]

Regardless this WW2 history doesn’t give israel the “right” to bomb innocent civilians.

[Juxtapose]

Israel has the right to defend themselves by whatever means necessary. If the enemy is hiding amongst the civilians then the onus is on the civilians to get the fuck out and evacuate the war zone.

[OddBeMe]

Not by whatever means. That’s what the International criminal court is for dummy. Now whether politics keeps them from prosecuting, who knows.

[Juxtapose]

Those type of courts only have way if you opt into them and I think the USA has opted out of a lot of them.

Recognizing something as an authority over multiple countries is globalism and something I will always be against. The more you concentrate power the more miserable our lives will be because we will have no escape. Imagine the social credit score of China applied to the whole world and then enforced by tiny nano machines that can watch your every movement or enforce my brain chip in your head that reads your every thought.

Those are the kind of things that can literally happen if we do not oppose concentration of power. If humans can settle other planets and spread out then maybe we will be okay when such technology comes about.

But yeah, globalism is bad. World economic forum is bad and international courts are generally bad.

The Nazis should have been judged separately by each offended country.

[Juxtapose]

*typos

[OddBeMe]

So basically you’re saying sense they CAN kill innocents they should because they were attacked.

Your moral logic is quite skewed.

[OddBeMe]

ICC does have some investigations into Israel. I can only imagine the updates down the pike…
https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine

[Juxtapose]

Civilians get bombed all the time holy shit how naive are you? That's why war is bad lol. WW2 had huuuge amounts of civilians dying and so do most wars.

[OddBeMe]

Lol why are you ok with it? So it happened before so I should support Israel’s right to do it too? That’s not even how the law works.

[Juxtapose]

War is hard 🤷

Maybe don't engage in war so readily? L

[OddBeMe]

Maybe don’t escalate when innocent civilians are nearby as that would be falling into terrorists’ plans. Hamas is laughing their asses off as other Arab nations are contemplating another war. It’s what they wanted. And we can’t figure that out. Right wingers like Netanyahu or Bush really can’t.

[In_Trance]

Stop...

[Juxtapose]

^^ this

[Guardian45]

Israel is attempting to separate peaceful Palestinians from Hamas militants.

[Jerre]

You got to be kidding!

[OddBeMe]

Why? Crimes are crimes.

It’s like you searching for the guy who burglarized your house by breaking into other peoples’ houses.

[Anonymous]

are you going to make them pay?

[OddBeMe]

I’ll vote for politicians brave enough to enforce sanctions.

[Opinion Owner]

but you won't make them pay yourself?

[OddBeMe]

How exactly would would I do that? I pay mine and probably your taxes to our representatives to govern.