What is more important to you truth or censorship?

[findacure4wokeness]

It's a shame we can't have honest conservations anymore. We aren't allowed to question liberal hive mind people who embrace lies.

Censorship because exposing the truth will disempower me

Truth because exposing it will weaken oppressive censorship.

[RainbowMarinade]

Truth, of course.
How do we combat the untruths that are sold as truth? That’s the question.
Far too many people are willing to take everything that confirms their preconceived notions as truth, simply because it support what they already believe. And there are many who are willing to keeping selling BS as truth, because people are willing to buy it.
What do we do about that?

[Anonymous]

Truth. If it’s truth regarding something seriously ‘harmful’ towards myself or my loved ones, then I would rather someone be truthful with me about it so that I can remove myself from them. Censorship only delays things.

[Anonymous]

People who support censorship usually do so because they don't trust anyone else to come to the same conclusions they did. This is either because the conclusion is self-serving or they don't trust them intellectually.

Either way censorship is foolish and unfair both because the censor has no superiority in judgement, knowledge, or right they suppose.

[goaded]

You're allowed to say anything you want, which is why you feel free to say things like "We aren't allowed to question liberal hive mind people who embrace lies." even though it's a lie.

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded do you truly believe that people can say what ever they want? that people's post don't get posts removed and accounts don't get banned here on gag? I can get away with saying these things sometimes but there are many other truth things that I can't, there are some questions I ask which no liberal yet has been able to answer they just have a shit fit and get my account frozen. But I don't care because it shows something we all already know deep down that censorship is something straight out of the liberal tool box. Conservatives value free speech even if it's offensive to us and Liberals want to silence opposing views they find offensive or just can't answer.

[goaded]

I didn't say there wouldn't be consequences, and I didn't talk about any particular platform. Freedom of speech is about the government censoring citizens, not citizens refusing to amplify your bullshit.

"We aren't allowed to question liberal hive mind people who embrace lies." is bullshit, and especially laughable coming from people who believe Trump.

There are social media sites that are even more like "Nazi bars" than this one, but I don't suppose you find that as much fun because there aren't any sane people there to upset with your lies.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi_bar "(Internet slang) A space in which bigots or extremists have come to dominate due to a lack of moderation or by moderators wishing to remain neutral or avoid conflict. "

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded I come to sites like this to see opposing views and test my world view but it seems like the truth upsets you a lot. I'm not hearing a lot of convincing arguments coming from the left but even though I do from the right. I want to hear opposing views and If I were to hear one I would go to a "Nazi_bar" with Questions. Those right wing forums have opposing views sections while left wing forums have moderators that censor. You must admit the the left looks like they are afraid that their world view wouldn't hold up to a debate. Even some left wingers have admitted they need to challenge right wing people in debates. Good luck finding people like that god knows I couldn't.

[goaded]

Really? It seems more like you come here to insult people and pretend lies are the truth.

Is there any evidence that Biden's done something impeachable? Comer says no.

Did Pence have the authority to reject states' election results or adjourn the count for 10 days? Pence (and at least one person who asked him to break that law) says no.

Was there evidence of election fraud on a scale to affect the results in even one state, let alone the five or six Trump would have needed to win? His AG, Barr, and every state and court in the union says no.

Is Biden old? Yes.

Is Trump old? Yes.

Which one is facing trial on 91 different crimes in several courts? Trump.

Was Jan 6 violent? Yes.

Was Jan 6 part of an attempt to steal the presidency for Trump? Yes.

Was the 2020 presidential election the only time in American history that the loser didn't peacefully hand over power? Yes.

I'd love to see these "right wing forums... opposing views sections", but I don't want to hang out with people who want genocide. I'm funny like that. Wait, are those "opposing views sections" the only places you're allowed to express those views?

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded There are right wing forums that have a section for people like you who wish to challenge theirs views.
Storm front dot org has an opposing views section. Enjoy.

[goaded]

Really? You're going to ignore almost everything I wrote? I thought you "come to sites like this to see opposing views and test my world view".

[goaded]

Your world view, obviously. We're both here, let's have a discussion.

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded GAG is not a free speech forum, I've had more posts removed then I can count so any real discussion will result in the same thing. You started rumbling about this Trump/Biden thing like it was part of this discussion then said you would like to see this opposing views sections in right wing forums so I provided you with it what exactly am i missing here?

[goaded]

I don't think so. I don't think factual posts will be removed. If I saw one removed that is factual, I'd be just as outraged as you. Do you want to discuss any of my assertions, now? I even gave you my position in advance.

Do you agree with them all? That would be common ground, and I'm all in favour of that.

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded Not just facts, I've had many questions removed because they are considered offensive to the moderators of this site. I have posts removed for discussing a removed post. I'm speaking from experience when I tell you this comment right here will likely disappear if a GAG moderator see it for this very reason. Right wing forums are uncensored and free speech respecting as long as you stick to the Apposing views sections. If you truly want an honest discussion then we are in the wrong place. I have excepted to some degree that my account will spend more time frozen then it will being active.

[goaded]

You mean you've had posts removed for breaking the rules of the site? Surprise!

I don't think any of the subjects I brought up and you seem reluctant to talk about would get your posts removed. Here they are again:

Is there any evidence that Biden's done something impeachable? Comer says no.

Did Pence have the authority to reject states' election results or adjourn the count for 10 days? Pence (and at least one person who asked him to break that law) says no.

Was there evidence of election fraud on a scale to affect the results in even one state, let alone the five or six Trump would have needed to win? His AG, Barr, and every state and court in the union says no.

Is Biden old? Yes.

Is Trump old? Yes.

Which one is facing trial on 91 different crimes in several courts? Trump.

Was Jan 6 violent? Yes.

Was Jan 6 part of an attempt to steal the presidency for Trump? Yes.

Was the 2020 presidential election the only time in American history that the loser didn't peacefully hand over power? Yes.

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded How can I be free to say anything I want when saying certain things will get by account frozen?

[goaded]

Getting your account frozen is a consequence of saying some things that are against the rules. I'm more interested in why you're avoiding talking about any of the questions I asked.

[findacure4wokeness]

@goaded Because this strawman it's against the initial subject of this thread, I'm interested why you brought up this Trump and Biden thing I the first Place.
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These terms a pretty subjective and require a definition otherwise they are just muddying the waters. But I guess being vague and misleading is what the mainstream does, It just means what ever they need it to mean on the day.
You and GAG don't value any freedom of speech. Just admit it, you don't want to hear any truth that doesn't serve your interests.

[goaded]

I value governments not dictating what people can say, I support sites like this being allowed to set their own rules for what they broadcast to the world. Otherwise they'll all end up like the Nazi bars you recommend I visit to participate in the segregated areas where you're permitted to say crazy stuff like "the Holocaust happened".

Can you, with a straight face, say that your removed posts weren't "offending, harmful, defamatory, threatening, unlawful, infringing, abusive, inflammatory, harassing, vulgar, obscene, fraudulent, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable content"?

Perhaps you could simply try avoiding things like that while using this service.

[goaded]

Thanks for MHO, by the way, and the reason I brought up those questions was to find out what sort of things you think are true that aren't. If you're going to say Jan 6 wasn't violent, there's no point in any discussion with you.

[SmokinAces2000]

Well since you never say any truth I wouldn’t mind if you were censored

[findacure4wokeness]

No you like censorship because your afraid of truth. Truth a weapon that is denied to the left and censorship is used to cover up a truth that doesn't serve your interests.

[SmokinAces2000]

No I have no problem with truth in fact it’s something more people need to share but judging from your posts over the years you are an idiot

[findacure4wokeness]

@SmokinAces2000 So who decides what's true and what isn't? you? It sounds like your too butt hurt to handle the truth. You need a safe space.

[Yannae]

The truth will set you free.

[findacure4wokeness]

Or bury you if you a bullshit artist🤣