Why is there so much antisemitism among liberals?

[Anonymous]

I've seen it a LOT lately, and it's always from liberals. Why do so many of them hate jews? I seriously don't get it. What is the source of their hatred?

[NamerOfStars]

The imperialism of claiming Semitehood exclusively for themselves, ignoring the facts that:

1. most Jews aren't Semites, and

2. most Semites aren't Jews

doesn't exactly help; neither do the increasingly prevalent claims that the Holocaust was "a slaughter of six million Jews", ignoring the other half of the victims.

This springs into hatred of Jews by means by an ideological idiocy sadly common among liberals (it's not limited to them, but they're the primary holders) that sees society divided into the two classes of "oppressor" and "victim", which encompasses everyone, with no exceptions and no overlap. Marx saw the world this way, but it didn't start with him.

Gradually, the idea of "it's better to be a victim than an oppressor" morphed into "it's better to be a victim than to NOT be a victim", as the latter became a source of social status, since the bigger a victim someone was, the less of an oppressor they were. This is why you have people referring to "rape survivors", when rape is, by definition, not lethal (and if one is killed before, during, or after a rape, they're a victim of murder, as well as rape; I don't wish to imply that that doesn't happen, or that it- or rape itself, for that matter- isn't horrible); it's claiming a greater level of victimhood while pretending you're doing just the opposite, since you're not calling yourself a "victim".

See, if a situation is awful, but there's nothing that can be done about it, then you don't have to feel like a piece of shit for not doing anything, since you can't. But if a situation is widely regarded as hopeless, but then someone comes along and, with clearly only human powers, proves that it's NOT, in fact, hopeless, your entire worldview takes a hit, since it's been proved false. Modern Westerners have a TREMENDOUS amount of importance vested in their helplessness, and in liberals, that takes the form of accepting the human sins of the world as foundational and inevitable; the oppressed peoples of the world will always be oppressed and downtrodden, weak and incapable.

Then the Jews come in, and prove otherwise; succeeding (sometimes overwhelmingly) through education and hard work, and go from being pariahs to walking the halls of power as just another group of white people. The Irish had already done the same, but they were a part of much of the West's ethnic background, and nowhere near as culturally isolated as the Jews were, so it was both harder to pick them out and harder to outnumber them. The Oriental Asians would go on to become "white" as well, and the backlash against them was even worse (the US did, in fact, have internment camps for Germans and even Italians, but the enforcement of them was much less thorough, for exactly the same reasons the Irish blended in so well)- in the US, at least. Hell, to this day, you have them being discriminated against in college admissions; denied entry in favor of a weaker performer because your skin is the wrong color. "Gotta be racist to beat racism", I guess.

A genuinely liberal person would see these changes and be glad, since it shows that bigotry CAN be overcome on a society-wide level, and we can leave racism behind, becoming more and more meritocratic. But the ideological forces that were, at one point, liberal- or claimed to be, at least- have fallen from those heights, and their adherents lack both the intellect to examine whether that's happened and the honesty to admit that someone who succeeds enough to attain wealth, power, and status doesn't automatically become evil.

In short, Jews aren't scrounging in the dirt for crumbs off the tables of the rich and powerful any more, so that means that they're "bad guys" now.

[Jersey2]

The ones I have talked to online say that there are more Muslim voters in the US than Jews, or soon will be so it makes for a better alignment politically. My further guess is that Jews are more like whites in skin color and the Palestinians are people of color so the blacks will be against the Jews as they identify more with the Palestinians. Then add in the wealth and power of Jews vs others on the Left and they are seen differently that way as well. Then add in traditional anti-semitism and there you have it. Jews are suckers for voting Democrat but they won’t stop as it is an ingrained habit now and the Left knows that as well.

[Asker]

Liberals SAY they support diversity and inclusion, and yet they hate an entire people just because they are Jewish. They are hypocrites of the worst kind.

[Jersey2]

And they also hate white, straight, Christians. They even more surprisingly hate anyone who doesn’t agree with them and label those people as Uncle Tom’s and many more terms.

[Asker]

Yes, exactly. Liberals have become the most intollerant segment of western society.

[jennifer_bloom]

I don't hate Jewish people and I would not say I'm a total democrat or liberal but I'm more liberal than most of the religious people I know. I think both liberals and conservatives have views that don't agree with the bible but I would say the liberals are more biblical than the conservatives in many ways, they support protecting poor people, inclusive education, even if they are not perfect gods with no flaws.

[Asker]

So they support protecting poor people but not jews? Ok.

[jennifer_bloom]

No, I said they support protecting poor people whether Jewish or not Jewish

[Asker]

You said "liberals are more biblical than the conservatives in many ways, they support protecting poor people, inclusive education..." But they also support antisemitism, so how exactly are they more bibical? Sounds to me like they don't practice what they preach.

[jennifer_bloom]

You have liberals who might support antisemitism but that is a tiny tiny fraction, most liberals like all races and cultures and religions. Just like you have doctors who kill people and you have police officers who sell illegal drugs. The average doctor does not kill people and the average police officer does not sell drugs. The average liberal does not hate Jewish people.

[Asker]

Liberals have become the most intollerant group in western society today.

[Anonymous]

It's not antisemitism. It's anti zionism. Nothing wrong with that.

[Asker]

Good for you. But liberals I'm referring to hate jews, so...

[matchrestore]

I don't know that there's much more antisemitism, but there's a lot more skepticism towards the actions of the State of Israel. Those are two separate things that older generations struggle to keep separate in their minds.

[AnusDestroyer3169]

I am Turkish, welcome to my world.

Average leftist and liberal in the western world claims that they are against of racism as long as you are not Turkish, Serbian, Russian or Jewish. I think its about political correctness.

[Asker]

Yeah I hear you. But I don't understand how hating an entire group is politically correct.

[AnusDestroyer3169]

They are not even aware of the fact that they are being racist.
They have labelled you as opressor in their own subconsciousness , that way they think they could justify their own racist behaviour.
Its a sociological phenomenon.
Its called dualism.
For example in my country never mind doing anything bad but just saying a bad word about Kurd swould get you labelled as racist and fascist in the eyes of left wingers and liberals but when kurdish nationalist detones a bomb inside crowds of Turkish civillians, or a kurdish politicians kicks out a pro kurdish Turk out of its party just because of its ethnic background, they will try to defend it by saying
Kurds are an oppressed society.
I think leftists has some taboos in their heads like assumption of minorities being always right etc.
They have to break their own walls.
Their world view is very limited.

[AnusDestroyer3169]

Look at the conflict between azerbaijan and armenia regarding karabagh as an example.
All leftists and liberals around the world supported armenia despite karabagh being an azeri land thats been occupied by armenia about 20 years ago.
Even if I put my Turkishness aside and try to look it from an objective point of view , azeris are the right ones here.
But azeris being Turkic people and world leftists that has been indoctrinated about armenian genocide in last 100 years automatically labelled armenians as victims despite events in karabagh has nothing to do with armenian genocide.
Whatever happens between between an armenian or Turk (or a related nation such as azeris)
they automatically put us into bad side.
Thats the exact definition of political correctness.

[Levin]

Well, it's a case of one side or the other. And sadly people go to extremes and then find their opposition. I don't think either party is exactly 'clean' here.

[Staximus]

Because they are stupid enough to believe that every Jew is responsible for the situation in Israel, even if they don't live there and aren't Zionists

[Asker]

Agreed.

[Alex-Snow]

I'm liberal and do not hate anyone... Hate is such an awful word

[Asker]

Good for you, but why do so many other liberals hate Jews?

[Alex-Snow]

I don't think so.

[Asker]

There is a shit ton of hate among today's liberals. That is an indisputeable fact.

[Alex-Snow]

I think there is also some with the MAGA group... It all needs to stop

[Asker]

Agreed, but democrats are supposedly the party of tollerance and inclusivity. But they really aren't.

[Dargil]

Because they need someone to hate. Anti-Semitism is identical to Trump Hatred.

[Anonymous]

In general, liberals are just naturally miserable and hateful people.

[KrakenAttackin]

It is rather shocking.

[Anonymous]

Because they were crafted from the ashes of Nazism