Do you like this flag🌈?

[Anonymous]

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[FunkyMonkee]

It's colourful. I like colourful things! I've always like rainbows until recently. I have no idea what rainbows have to do with being a fag or any other sexual deviation. I'm not against any of those factions or lifestyles, go ahead and be who you are. I support that! What I DON'T support is having it shoved down everyone's throat!! You want take a dick up your ass, go right ahead! I'm not interested in any of that but, I won't stop you! Whatever floats your boat, as long as you aren't hurting anyone else or shoving it down everyone else's throat. I'm straight but, I never go marching around where gay people hang out and shove being straight down THEIR throats!!
Stop being so fucking militant about it and I'm pretty sure people won't be so hard on you, about it! I used to be at least somewhat into feminism until they got militant about that, too! I still stick up for them but, NOT if they're gonna go full scale Jane Fonda about it! That's psychotic!! It's as bad as some of my uber-religious relatives who took EVERY chance they got to turn EVERY discussion into a religious-based one!! Music and records are MY passion but I almost NEVER bring them up in a conversation unless others bring it up. One of my best friends is also a huge record collector and I almost NEVER talk records with him! Any time we do, the conversation's over within about 2:00 and we're on to talking about something else! Like Groucho once said, "I love my cigar but I take it out of my mouth, once in a while!"

[GregorSamsa]

The problem is people see it kink or as having a dick shoved down their throat and not a civil rights movement. It wouldn't need to be a movement with militant push back if there weren't things like Stonewall or mass-murders in clubs or a 50% suicide rate because of the bullying we endure on a daily basis for just living and being a little different.

If you're an ally, thanks. But like most things, it becomes a "thing" because a few assholes ruin it for everyone.

[FunkyMonkee]

@GregorSamsa I know! I've been threatened a few times, myself! Mostly by punkers, of all people!!
Like I said, I support it, as long as it's not being shoved down my throat. Although I'm more on the right than the left, I DON'T like how the right claim that trans women cut off their dick!! Even worse, when say they still have one, even though they've already had bottom surgery done a long time ago, just because they USED to be a guy!
From what I understand, most of us on the right have no issue with people being trans or gay, it's the fringe nutters who either shove it down our throats or claim there's 3 times as many genders as there are Baskin & Robbin's flavours, or they think it's perfectly fine for a little kid to get their tits cut off, take hormones or have THEIR bottoms done!! They're little kids!! They don't have the mental capacity to make life-changing decisions like that!! If they did, we'd let them drink, drive, smoke, do drugs, vote, get pregnant, get married and get a job!

[GregorSamsa]

*sigh* When you know, you know. At any age. Gender-IDENTITY has nothing to do with what plumbing you were assigned at the factory. Some wish to express their interior spirit through their exterior, other's don't—either way is ok. But it's because people keep looking it as a tangible/physical issue and not an abstract/psychological one.

If a trans kid can be made to feel a bit more comfortable in his skin, maybe (up to) 50% of them wouldn't contemplate suicide in any given year. I have lost more friends in the community due to hate-crimes or suicide than anything else. If parental support and the room for a kid to explore their self-identity saves a life, gives them confidence and makes them a contributing member of society, how is this wrong? It is not up to you to make decisions (parental or otherwise) for other people.

[FunkyMonkee]

@GregorSamsa Most kids go through a phase of experimenting with the opposite gender. That DOESN'T mean they need to have a sex change!
There are also full grown adults that went through that mutilation as a kid and regret ever allowing it to be done to them because it's NOT what they really wanted! It's only what they thought they wanted THEN! Kids that age also want to be cops and firemen but, how often do you see parents happily letting their 5 year old go along with firemen to put out a blazing building or with the cops to try to quell a violent gun battle?
Parents SHOULD keep an open mind about their kids' gender issues but, they also SHOULDN'T COMPLETELY cater to them JUST because that's what the kid says they want at that point. And, as humans, we still haven't progressed into that style of life where we pay attention to what the kids want. We're still prejudiced by things like religion and whatever is presently considered "the norm". But, still, just because a boy likes wearing dresses today, doesn't mean he needs a sex change or will eventually get one. Look at how many girls wear pants or become tomboys yet, we don't go forcing them into cutting off their tits and growing beards. These decisions should NOT be forced upon them or made by them until they are adults!

[GregorSamsa]

Nobody FORCES them to cut off anything, last I heard. Yet I could have surgery to remove things and nobody would know it or have a problem with it. (Plenty of people have their balls removed or a hysterectomy for a variety of reasons—even kids/teens—and you wouldn't know it or concern yourself with it). What people object to is the hormones that feminize or masculinize features and confuse people's base-instincts. Yet, that happens whether they change anything or not (I'm walking proof). Why? Because IT'S NOT ABOUT THE PHYSICAL PACKAGE. It is about IDENTITY.

What if you woke up tomorrow without a dick and were on the rag? If you woke up screaming and feeling like, "Everything about this feels wrong. Oh god, I feel so disgusting right now!" that is what it's like for someone on the trans spectrum EVERY DAY OF THEIR LIFE. It feels like your body has betrayed you. If someone chooses to make physical changes, they are trying to match the outside to how they feel inside.

apnews.com/.../gender-transition-treatment-guidelines-9dbe54f670a3a0f5f2831c2bf14f9bbb

[GregorSamsa]

Personally, I don't define who I am by my body (anymore). We have parted ways at puberty when it betrayed me by growing disgusting tumors and throwing me into a personal hell of feeling physically sick all the time (even though I'm by all accounts healthy). I have not done anything to it surgically or hormonally, and have learned to put up and shut up with all the gender-related reasons I feel disconnected to it and hate it. In fact, my loathing for my body is so great that I don't do anything to take care of it now and silently hope to just die in my sleep every night. I feel like even if I took control to exercise and eat healthy, why bother?

People who undergo gender-affirmation are taking steps to take control (whether you like it or not) because they are desperately trying to live with hope, not just nihilistically give up (like I have). So do you want these kids to silently loathe themselves and want to die? Or give them hope and empower them by allowing them to take control of something that feels all kinds of wrong to them? These parents aren't spoiling their kid by letting them cry until they get a new video game console. They are trying to save their lives. And if they live to regret it and complain, it's still a step ahead of dying because they didn't feel heard and weren't given a choice.

There is more than winning and losing a war. Sometimes you have to resort to a tactical retreat so you can live another day. They are willing to risk the possibility of regret if it means their children survive.

[GregorSamsa]

I still confuse people on a regular basis when there's no reason I should. Everything physically about me matches my birth sex, but I trip up their ape-brain that registers danger/confusion because I do not purport myself in a way THEY expect me to.

I speak differently, I hold myself differently, and even if I "try" to wear clothing made for my gender—it just looks all kinds of wrong on me. There is no way for me to make myself—by choice or otherwise—FIT other people's gender expression expectations, whatever they are, because people equate the issue to what's in your pants or your physical features... and it's NOT, clearly.

If it were, I would not have been met with challenges to my gender-identity by other people who have told me my entire life that there is something "wrong" or "threatening" about me, even though I have done absolutely nothing but be myself. It took me 40 years to figure out the disconnect, because I'm straight, I don't see anything odd or unusual about how I dress or act, I'm well-educated and respected in my field... yet old men will still try to steer me into the opposite-sex bathroom trying to be "helpful" because I'm not registering to them as my assigned-gender-at-birth. Or (one I get all the time) calling me the (physically) incorrect "sir" or "madam" on the phone because I'm giving off a vibe that's other than my physical characteristics. This is what it's like to be trans, and it has nothing to do with medical intervention. But I sure as hell would have loved the opportunity to delay puberty as long as possible, because that's when my world started falling apart.

[molonski2]

I think its really stupid , the colours are nice , but they have managed to ruin rainbows for the rest of us..

[IrishStewed]

Nah, too unicorny.

[GregorSamsa]

It's a bit trapper-keeper/Lisa Frank for my taste, but I support the ideas behind it.

[tfan1]

No because it’s not God’s rainbow. His has 7 colors not 6

[TheGuyWhoKnowsStuff]

It looks absolutely stupid.

[aceleon]

no, too bright, too colourful.

[AnusDestroyer3169]

I like what it represents

[Nikki1989]

Absolutely 1000%.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s a very divisive cult-like symbol.

[Dargil]

It's OK but it has no meaning to me.

[ChicoFromThe305]

I can't believe they took all the colors

[JordanianNumetal]

You know everything is all rainbows and gum drops.

[jarkitor20]

It's pretty cool and it seems to upset people

[BCRanger10]

No, I do not.

[Danny_dan92]

Not my flag

[Anonymous]

No..

[TonyMetal___86]

Nope i don't

[Kingofkings1992]

Nope.